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Had to go back an revisit Ojulari's season to forget

Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/26/2023 12:59 pm
The injury story was almost comical.

Ojulari missed the first three weeks of training camp with a hamstring injury. He then hurt his right calf in training camp and missed the first two regular-season games of the season. Then in Week 4, Ojulari injured his left calf. After waiting for three weeks for it to improve, the Giants finally put him on Injured Reserve. Ojulari did not return to the active roster until early December, missing two full months. He then left the Week 16 game early with an ankle injury and barely played the following week. He was held out of the regular-season finale and then came out of the playoff game against the Vikings with a quad contusion.

In all, Ojulari played in seven regular-season games with five starts. (And again, in two of those games, he left early and another he barely played).
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Let me get this straight ...  
robbieballs2003 : 1/26/2023 4:36 pm : link
Ojulari had one injury ridden season and people are saying he shouldn't be on the team next year? Holy fuckin shit. This place gets some interesting people.
RE: RE: Eric  
sb from NYT Forum : 1/26/2023 5:01 pm : link
In comment 16015123 Eric from BBI said:
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I have always had a hard time rooting for Ximines because I was screaming and pounding the table for Maxx Crosby when the Giants took Ximines.



Ouch. Thanks for reminding us.


Another example of Gettleman using Walter Football mock drafts as his draft prep (jk.... kinda)
RE: Let me get this straight ...  
GiantGrit : 1/26/2023 5:26 pm : link
In comment 16015171 robbieballs2003 said:
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Ojulari had one injury ridden season and people are saying he shouldn't be on the team next year? Holy fuckin shit. This place gets some interesting people.


Who said that? No one said they want him off the team next year. Valid points were made on how many years he has remaining and the people in charge are not the ones who brought him in.

Thomas, Lawrence, McKinney are now or soon due extensions. Jones, possibly Saquon and Love may also be back.

The Giants also have a dearth of talent - you’d like him to be a solution but he has good trade value. Giants need picks.

I think they let him play out next year and if the team is struggling you recoup picks for him.
RE: Let me get this straight ...  
JonC : 1/26/2023 5:32 pm : link
In comment 16015171 robbieballs2003 said:
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Ojulari had one injury ridden season and people are saying he shouldn't be on the team next year? Holy fuckin shit. This place gets some interesting people.


No one said that.
RE: Let me get this straight ...  
Angel Eyes : 1/26/2023 5:35 pm : link
In comment 16015171 robbieballs2003 said:
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Ojulari had one injury ridden season and people are saying he shouldn't be on the team next year? Holy fuckin shit. This place gets some interesting people.

Where did any of us say that?

On the other hand playing what's essentially the power end in a 4-3 (ie Michael Strahan) might not be the best fit for him.
RE: RE: Let me get this straight ...  
DefenseWins : 1/26/2023 5:39 pm : link
In comment 16015243 JonC said:
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In comment 16015171 robbieballs2003 said:


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Ojulari had one injury ridden season and people are saying he shouldn't be on the team next year? Holy fuckin shit. This place gets some interesting people.



No one said that.


Yeah, I probably came the closest to saying something like that, but clearly said I wanted to give him another year.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/26/2023 6:24 pm : link
I gotta imagine Ward will be back unless some team offers him loco coin.
How  
AcidTest : 1/26/2023 6:37 pm : link
about Elerson Smith? Hie's hardly played in two seasons. Seems like next camp and preseason are "make or break" for him.
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sb from NYT Forum : 1/26/2023 6:41 pm : link
In comment 16015305 AcidTest said:
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about Elerson Smith? Hie's hardly played in two seasons. Seems like next camp and preseason are "make or break" for him.


Another shit Gettleman pick.
RE: How  
kash94 : 1/26/2023 7:07 pm : link
In comment 16015305 AcidTest said:
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about Elerson Smith? Hie's hardly played in two seasons. Seems like next camp and preseason are "make or break" for him.


Not only that but he skipped his final college season due to COVID.

Essentially 0 playing time in three years.

RE: How  
Angel Eyes : 1/26/2023 7:23 pm : link
In comment 16015305 AcidTest said:
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about Elerson Smith? Hie's hardly played in two seasons. Seems like next camp and preseason are "make or break" for him.

I wanted Rhamondre Stevenson instead of Smith.
RE: RE: Being an early pick from the previous General Manager  
ThomasG : 1/26/2023 7:37 pm : link
In comment 16015055 JonC said:
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is not a known negative for Ojulari unless someone here knows Schoen's original grade on him when he was in Buffalo.




Or, someone heard something. It's one season, but he only has a brief #2 pick contract with two years already gone. Ojulari wasn't available in 2022, and NYG already has a handful of core guys establishing themselves for second contracts. Ojulari is now behind.

NYG can't keep everyone, let alone year after year.


Agreed, but probably don't need to be prematurely pulling the plug on Ojularu with several years to go on his current structure. And certainly not because the NY Giants have so many good core players already lined up in front of him waiting to be paid.

There is simply nothing to concern ourselves with (cap-wise) coming out of Ojulari's draft class which included Kadarius Toney, himself, Aaron Robinson, Elerson Smith, Gary Brightwell and Rodarius Williams. And the draft class in front of his only has Andrew Thomas and Xavier Mckinney that will command higher end deals but no one else. So for a two-year period of draftees, I would think Ojulari is safe enough to get paid if he indeed gets himself on the field consistently and performs. That is the key issue.
No one said pull the plug on Ojulari now  
JonC : 1/26/2023 9:05 pm : link
Let's read carefully, it's getting annoying.
Agreed, let's let the next year or so play out before  
ThomasG : 1/26/2023 9:19 pm : link
we doubt today that he won't get a second contract.
You do you  
JonC : 1/26/2023 9:20 pm : link
I've got my own opinions and info.
Well hopefully Ojulari can turn around this stigma he has  
ThomasG : 1/26/2023 9:57 pm : link
of being a 'Dead Man Walking' sometime before the next two years are over.
22 yr old guy  
Breeze_94 : 1/26/2023 10:29 pm : link
Why are we giving up on him around here?

Played all 17 as a rookie, broke the franchise rookie sack record.

2nd on team this year in basically 5.5 games.

He’s a double digit sack guy when healthy. Had bad injury luck this year. As pointed out, one injury causes overcompensation and leads to another.

Give him a whole offseason to train and improve his durability. He’ll be fine.
Need to Add Players...NOT Subtract!  
Rafflee : 1/28/2023 9:49 am : link
The big question on Azeez (and Thibs) is playing them together on heavy snap counts...they're not great edge setters and they aren't versatile positionally. I like both, but the Giants need a better and more talented Mix. That means Adding Guys.
Yes, adding good versatile players is always a goal  
gersh : 1/28/2023 10:47 pm : link
But saying we need players more talented than Thibs?
His talent level is elite
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