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Three waiver-wire pick-ups who made a difference

Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/27/2023 3:43 pm
I'm updating the scouting reports section.

The Giants claimed Isaiah Hodgins off of waivers from the Buffalo Bills in early November 2022. Due to the dearth of talent at the position, Hodgins quickly received playing time, playing in eight regular-season games with five starts. He finished with 33 catches for 351 yards (10.6 yards per catch) and four touchdowns. In the playoff game against the Vikings, Hodgins caught eight passes for 105 yards and a touchdown. However, he was limited to one catch against the playoff loss to the Eagles. Hodgins was originally drafted in the 6th round of the 2020 NFL Draft by the Bills. He spent most of his rookie season on Injured Reserve and most of 2021 on the Practice Squad. Before coming to the Giants, Hodgins only played in two regular-season games, catching four passes for 41 yards. Hodgins lacks ideal speed, but he has good size (6’3”, 201lbs), runs good routes, and became the steadiest, most-reliable receiver on the roster. The question moving forward is his upside.

The Giants claimed Nick McCloud off of waivers from the Buffalo Bills in late August 2022. He ended up being a surprising contributor, being force fed into the starting line-up after Adoree’ Jackson was lost for most of the second half of the regular-season. McCloud played in 14 regular-season games with eight starts, accruing 43 tackles, 1.5 sacks, and seven pass defenses. He played in 57 percent of defensive snaps in those 14 games. He was flagged with two defensive penalties (illegal contact and roughing the passer). McCloud was originally signed as an undrafted rookie free agent by the Bills after the 2021 NFL Draft. The Cincinnati Bengals claimed him off of waivers in September 2021 and cut him in November. The Bills then re-signed McCloud to their Practice Squad. McCloud combines good size (6’0”, 193lbs) and overall athleticism. He plays a physical game with decent anticipation. McCloud had his ups and downs in coverage, particularly against upper echelon receivers, but played better than expected.

The Giants claimed Jason Pinnock off of waivers from the New York Jets in late August 2022. Pinnock became a valuable addition, playing in 14 games with 5 starts (49 percent of defensive snaps in those 14 games). He missed three games due to shoulder and ankle injuries. Pinnock finished the season with 41 tackles, 1.5 sacks, three pass defenses, one forced fumble, and one fumble recovery. He was not flagged on defense. Pinnock was originally drafted in the 5th round of the 2021 NFL Draft by the Jets. He played in 12 games with two starts as a rookie, accruing 16 tackles, one pass defense, and two forced fumbles. Pinnock’s play improved as the season progressed. An aggressive and physical player with good speed, he was an asset as a run defender and blitzer. Pinnock also flashed at times in pass coverage.

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Giants also claimed offensive lineman Wyatt Davis, Tyre Phillips and Jack Anderson off of waivers in 2022, but the jury is still out on all three. Phillips contributed the most of the three:

The Giants claimed Tyre Phillips off of waivers from the Baltimore Ravens in early September 2022. He played in 12 games with five starts, including four games at right tackle when Evan Neal was out and the regular-season finale at left tackle. Phillips performed much better as a run blocker than pass blocker, where he struggled at times. He was also flagged with four penalties in his limited playing time (three false starts and one illegible down field). The 6’5”, 330-pound Phillips was originally drafted in the 3rd round of the 2020 NFL Draft by the Ravens. In his first two years in the NFL, has played in 22 regular-season games with 13 starts, despite suffering an ankle injury in 2020 and a torn ACL in 2021. He has experience playing both guard and tackle. A big, powerful player with some pop to his run blocks, Phillips has to become a more consistent pass protector to push for playing time.
BTW  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/27/2023 3:55 pm : link
all of this is yet another indication of just how bad the roster is. These guys ended up being significant starters.
I didn't get the sense  
pjcas18 : 1/27/2023 3:59 pm : link
Pinnock was very good, just a warm body or slightly better.

I hope he's not starting next year, but good to know someone at least knows the position for depth.

As a waiver wire pick up, he's a HR, but overall as a starter not great IMO
RE: I didn't get the sense  
Straw Hat : 1/27/2023 4:04 pm : link
In comment 16016174 pjcas18 said:
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Pinnock was very good, just a warm body or slightly better.

I hope he's not starting next year, but good to know someone at least knows the position for depth.

As a waiver wire pick up, he's a HR, but overall as a starter not great IMO


Funny how different people see things. I like pinnock more than Julien Love lol. Pinnock is just a way better athlete, his explosion jumps out.
Yet people keep saying that we were just like Philly last year  
robbieballs2003 : 1/27/2023 4:06 pm : link
so we should trade up in the first to get 1 player like Philly did. Those that don't see the difference between the Eagles roster and our roster are either blind or just ignorant.
RE: BTW  
BSIMatt : 1/27/2023 4:07 pm : link
In comment 16016169 Eric from BBI said:
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all of this is yet another indication of just how bad the roster is. These guys ended up being significant starters.


It would also be reflective of the numerous injuries, not only to the rookie class but to key core players like Adoree, Xavier and Azeez...even Shep.(This is not even mentioning the enigmas that were Golladay and Toney). The fact the Giants played as well as they did truly is a testament to Daboll and the coaching staff he constructed. Amazing work, some of the best coaching I've ever seen.
Pinnock and Belton  
Dnew15 : 1/27/2023 4:08 pm : link
make the Love situation very interesting to watch.

I do think Love is a better player than both - but how much better and is it worth the cap allocation with the other holes that need to be filled?
RE: RE: I didn't get the sense  
TDMaker85 : 1/27/2023 4:23 pm : link
In comment 16016182 Straw Hat said:
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In comment 16016174 pjcas18 said:


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Pinnock was very good, just a warm body or slightly better.

I hope he's not starting next year, but good to know someone at least knows the position for depth.

As a waiver wire pick up, he's a HR, but overall as a starter not great IMO



Funny how different people see things. I like pinnock more than Julien Love lol. Pinnock is just a way better athlete, his explosion jumps out.


Yeah I thought Pinnock flashed just about every game. Took some of the sting away from losing McKinnie.
Eric, thanks for doing that research  
GeoMan999 : 1/27/2023 4:46 pm : link
Due to roster depth and injuries, those three guys were very valuable…..not just JAGs. The pro personnel dept. and the coaches maximizing their talent deserve kudos.

Regarding Julian Love, he only made a handful of mistakes and he was often the glue that kept things together, an Iron man as well not missing any games. I bet that Wink sees him as co-captain of his defense. So, I don’t think they will let him leave.
I would add  
YANKEE28 : 1/27/2023 5:04 pm : link
Lawrence Cager to your list
I like Love. He's very versatile.  
robbieballs2003 : 1/27/2023 5:17 pm : link
Remember that he got the green dot when McKinney was out. It sounds like he wants to be here and the Giants want him. It will definitely come down to the pricetag.
Fabian Moreau  
Amtoft : 1/27/2023 5:20 pm : link
says... Ummm Hello
RE: I would add  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/27/2023 6:20 pm : link
In comment 16016260 YANKEE28 said:
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Lawrence Cager to your list


Wasn't claimed on waivers.
RE: Fabian Moreau  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/27/2023 6:21 pm : link
In comment 16016275 Amtoft said:
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says... Ummm Hello


Wasn't claimed on waivers.
If you want  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/27/2023 6:31 pm : link
to include guys who passed through waivers or weren't subject to waivers and then were signed, then the list would expand to:

Marcus Johnson
Lawrence Cager
Nick Vannett
Henry Mondeaux
Landon Collins
Fabian Moreau
Tony Jefferson
RE: RE: Fabian Moreau  
Amtoft : 1/27/2023 6:39 pm : link
In comment 16016321 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16016275 Amtoft said:


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says... Ummm Hello



Wasn't claimed on waivers.


My bad... Reading.. it makes a difference.
RE: BTW  
Matt M. : 1/28/2023 1:28 am : link
In comment 16016169 Eric from BBI said:
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all of this is yet another indication of just how bad the roster is. These guys ended up being significant starters.
Yes, it is an indication of how bad the roster is and how injuries have continued to impact this team. But, it is also an indication of how good our scouting and personnel departments now are.
Pinnock  
Hades07 : 1/28/2023 9:06 am : link
Also was a big contributor on specials, I'd suggest including something on that.
Whether they are “really good players” or not  
eli4life : 1/28/2023 10:34 am : link
Has anyone ever got so much out of bargain basement dumpster diving mid season acquisitions?
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