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How would other QB's have looked

1st and 10 : 1/29/2023 6:37 am
playing for the Giants this year?

There are many discussions going on right now about DJ and what one thinks of him, I am trying to evaluate him in a different way, how would some of the other QB's have looked playing for the Giants this year?

Dak?
Mahomes?
Allen?
Burrows?
Herbert?
Brady?
Hurts?
Fields?
Rodgers?
Carr?
T. Taylor?

I don't think we would have won as many games if Dak, Carr, Taylor, Fields and Herbert were our QB's.
Id say  
Straw Hat : 1/29/2023 8:14 am : link


Much worse than daniel:
Dak
Brady
Fields
Carr
Tyrod

Similar results as daniel:
Allen
Herbert
Hurts

Better than daniel:
Mahomes
Burrow (it’s a burrow bbi, not burrows, for the love of GOD)

Forgot  
Straw Hat : 1/29/2023 8:15 am : link
Rodgers. I’d put him in the “similar results as Daniel category.
RE: Id say  
mfjmfj : 1/29/2023 9:41 am : link
In comment 16017113 Straw Hat said:
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Much worse than daniel:
Dak
Brady
Fields
Carr
Tyrod

Similar results as daniel:
Allen
Herbert
Hurts

Better than daniel:
Mahomes
Burrow (it’s a burrow bbi, not burrows, for the love of GOD)


+1

And the better is maybe 1 or 2 more wins. Still not beating the Eagles. DJ squeezed as much juice as there was in the orange. And for the record he did the same in 2021.
RE: Id say  
Ivan15 : 1/29/2023 9:46 am : link
In comment 16017113 Straw Hat said:
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Much worse than daniel:
Dak
Brady
Fields
Carr
Tyrod

Similar results as daniel:
Allen
Herbert
Hurts

Better than daniel:
Mahomes
Burrow (it’s a burrow bbi, not burrows, for the love of GOD)

I would elevate Allen and drop Rodgers down. Not sure where Herbert should be placed.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/29/2023 9:51 am : link
Sooner or later, Herbert is going to have to start winning postseason games. He isn't helped that his head coach is a complete idiot. I can't believe the Bolts didn't fire him, though ownership is cheap AF.
The Giants would have won more games  
ajr2456 : 1/29/2023 9:57 am : link
With Josh Allen. Cmon.
I dont see  
Straw Hat : 1/29/2023 10:01 am : link
It that way, but I certainly think im in the minority of course. Allen can make some insane playground football plays, has an amazing arm, but when I watch him, i see a flustered player. If he doesnt run around doing schoolyard stuff he looks more ordinary to me. Also, ive never seen him play well without an elite receiver. His success started when they got diggs. Pre diggs i thought he looked bad. Im a bit of a bills hater, so take it with a grain of salt. Just how i see it.
RE: The Giants would have won more games  
Hammer : 1/29/2023 10:40 am : link
In comment 16017158 ajr2456 said:
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With Josh Allen. Cmon.


I agree.
Is there morning drinking going on?  
cosmicj : 1/29/2023 10:44 am : link
You know every GM in the league would take a straight up trade of Jones for Hurts, Herbert and Allen in a heartbeat.
RE: Is there morning drinking going on?  
UberAlias : 1/29/2023 11:01 am : link
In comment 16017218 cosmicj said:
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You know every GM in the league would take a straight up trade of Jones for Hurts, Herbert and Allen in a heartbeat.
Everyone seems so sure on Hurts, then go pay the man elite money. We'll see how that works out.
RE: Is there morning drinking going on?  
Johnny5 : 1/29/2023 11:50 am : link
In comment 16017218 cosmicj said:
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You know every GM in the league would take a straight up trade of Jones for Hurts, Herbert and Allen in a heartbeat.

Herbert and Allen for sure, Hurts I'm not so sure. How many more wins would Herbert and Allen been good for though? 1? 2? I would argue that Allen is too much of a Cowboy and would have had more turnovers than Jones. Sure he would be better with Daboll but the guy is a risk taker, that's part of his style. And he is a physical runner, so I'm not sure he wouldn't have taken some dings with his style and the group of OL and WR we had this year.
RE: Is there morning drinking going on?  
Straw Hat : 1/29/2023 12:03 pm : link
In comment 16017218 cosmicj said:
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You know every GM in the league would take a straight up trade of Jones for Hurts, Herbert and Allen in a heartbeat.


He didnt ask who was best. He asked how you thought they wouldve performed on the giants this season.
Hurts  
Samiam : 1/29/2023 12:43 pm : link
He’s in the running for MVP and probably wins if he didn’t get hurt. You actually think that any GM not named Gettleman would take Jones over Hurts?
Why do people  
pjcas18 : 1/29/2023 12:44 pm : link
obsess over un-answerable questions?
RE: Why do people  
Matt M. : 1/29/2023 1:21 pm : link
In comment 16017364 pjcas18 said:
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obsess over un-answerable questions?
Agreed. To me, anyway, the more important question that Schoen has to answer is what he thinks Jones will be with an improved OL and adding at least 1 legit WR1 type.
RE: RE: Is there morning drinking going on?  
NYG07 : 1/29/2023 1:24 pm : link
In comment 16017239 UberAlias said:
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In comment 16017218 cosmicj said:


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You know every GM in the league would take a straight up trade of Jones for Hurts, Herbert and Allen in a heartbeat.

Everyone seems so sure on Hurts, then go pay the man elite money. We'll see how that works out.


You don't think Eagles fans are saying the exact same thing about the Giants giving Jones $40M a year?
The point of my thread  
1st and 10 : 1/29/2023 2:04 pm : link
Is to highlight not many qbs could have done what DJdid. Elite qbs raise the level of play of those around them and DJ is unserway to doung that.
The point of my thread  
1st and 10 : 1/29/2023 2:05 pm : link
Is to highlight not many qbs could have done what DJdid. Elite qbs raise the level of play of those around them and DJ is unserway to doung that.
RE: Hurts  
Straw Hat : 1/29/2023 3:44 pm : link
In comment 16017363 Samiam said:
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He’s in the running for MVP and probably wins if he didn’t get hurt. You actually think that any GM not named Gettleman would take Jones over Hurts?


Hurts plays with what is basically the nfc pro bowl roster on his team. You dont think theres a few gms who would question if he could do it alone?
RE: Hurts  
Producer : 1/29/2023 3:50 pm : link
In comment 16017363 Samiam said:
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He’s in the running for MVP and probably wins if he didn’t get hurt. You actually think that any GM not named Gettleman would take Jones over Hurts?


Yes. There are people on this board who actually this this.
Mahomes, Burrow, Allen  
Joe Beckwith : 1/29/2023 11:55 pm : link
Likely would have won 1 more game….if our receivers were to catch their rifle passes., plus use their feet quicker.
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