If I am the Bears I make this trade- trade Fiels pick QB at 1
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Poles seemed high AF on Fields at Chicago's season ending presser. I guess there's a chance some team blows them away with an offer, but I think Fields is there long term.
If they do trade him even though I like him as a guy who could lead a team the next 4-5 years. But just like we see with QBs who play as a runner (and this is the issue seen with guys like Dak, Lamar, Jones and maybe Hurts at some point, as a runner or taking hits and missing games, the wheels aren’t there and you have to be a pocket passer.
Not a fan of Fields. Sure he's a great athlete but I didn't see
Yes, he plays for a bad team with very little talent and he’s only in his 2nd year. He’s an unbelievable runner. But his passing is not good. 2200 yards, 17/11 in 15 games. They could get the #1 QB in the draft and get something for Fields. I’m moving on.
So allegedly the Bears made a complete and full assessment of the 2023 NFL draft, and in addition have made a franchise altering decision to trade the QB they recently moved up for, and showed promise? Okayyyyyy
Gettleman apparently loved Herbert but he didn’t come out so Jones was the pick. The next year, even if the Giants liked Jones, if They liked Herbert better they should have made the pick.
I say this as someone who likes Jones. Any other position you take a player if they are better than what you have without a second thought.
RE: I don’t get the love for Fields. What am I missing.
Yes, he plays for a bad team with very little talent and he’s only in his 2nd year. He’s an unbelievable runner. But his passing is not good. 2200 yards, 17/11 in 15 games. They could get the #1 QB in the draft and get something for Fields. I’m moving on.
For NY Giant fans, this post is ironic as they come.
They pick him, and find a deal for Fields. You rarely get a #1 overall pick, got to nail it.
Yup. QB conviction.
And my gut says they’re not willing to trade out of 1 slot because they know Texans will take Young. I’m more intrigued with whether Texans take a QB themselves and where Stroud or Levis fall to given Colts are also in hunt for QB and where Will Anderson goes too. I expect a heavy run on some OTs again in 1st similar to last year from around picks 5-6 through 15-20.
Sounds like Falcons may stick with Ridder for now and Panthers may make move for a Derek Carr (surprised not a draft pick consideration after Reichs tenure with QB carousel in Indy) but that’s the scuttlebut with Tepper wanting vet head coach and QB to make playoff run next few years.
RE: I don’t get the love for Fields. What am I missing.
Yes, he plays for a bad team with very little talent and he’s only in his 2nd year. He’s an unbelievable runner. But his passing is not good. 2200 yards, 17/11 in 15 games. They could get the #1 QB in the draft and get something for Fields. I’m moving on.
So Daniel Jones is held back because of a poor supporting cast, but the same doesn’t go for Fields?
For what’s it’s worth, Fields had two more passing tds in 100 less passing attempts. Obviously the interceptions are a concern but Fields’ year 2 is pretty similar to Jones’ year 2 except with more production on the ground.
Fields is so much more dependent on running than any other qb in the league and last year he accumulated injuries as a result of it. This is a good time to sell Fields and probably get back at least a 1st from a team like ATL or CAR. You don't get the chance to take a legitimately deserving #1oa QB often passing on it would be moronic. Bryce Young is a stud.
RE: RE: I don’t get the love for Fields. What am I missing.
Yes, he plays for a bad team with very little talent and he’s only in his 2nd year. He’s an unbelievable runner. But his passing is not good. 2200 yards, 17/11 in 15 games. They could get the #1 QB in the draft and get something for Fields. I’m moving on.
So Daniel Jones is held back because of a poor supporting cast, but the same doesn’t go for Fields?
For what’s it’s worth, Fields had two more passing tds in 100 less passing attempts. Obviously the interceptions are a concern but Fields’ year 2 is pretty similar to Jones’ year 2 except with more production on the ground.
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also if young's big concern is durability for bears it's irrelevant
because fields durability is arguably more of a worry with the amount he's going to need to run the ball over his career and the fact that he's already accumulating a pretty extensive injury list doing so. as a rookie he had broken ribs, this past year he separated a shoulder.
as is making every thread a daniel jones thread, but i digress.
through most of his career fields has been in contention for lowest number of completions as a starting qb, and up until things clicked with his legs in the 2nd half this year his comp% was historically low even compared to other first/second year players through about 20 games. 4 of his first 6 games this year he completed 51% of his passes or lower. that is zach wilson/jamarcus russell level bad passing.
if you think jones didnt throw a lot this year, in 15 games fields attempted 150 less passes - which is a full 1/3 less. he only had 1 game this entire year where he completed more than 17 passes.
fields 2nd half was so good i think my position on him prior was wrong and he can be an effective starting qb because his legs were that good and they opened up a little bit of a passing game, but that said he has more value tied to his legs than any other qb in nfl history - which is risky on 2 fronts (injuries, long term effectiveness). in 7 of his last 10 games he ran 10+ times. 3 of those games were 15+ rush attempts. in the last 2 months he had almost the same number of attempts as barkley, which is not what you want from your qb. fields only had 1 game under 7 carries (6). Jones ran 6x or less in 9 of his 18 starts. overall he ran for a full 1/3 more rush attempts than jones (160 vs. 120). his 160 attempts was more than 20+ over cam newton's high rushing attempts year (and his passing attempts 150 fewer).
from a nyg standpoint i think even jones' 'cam newton level' rushing workload seemed like too much to be sustainable long term. i think the same about josh allen and buf too. cam stayed freakishly healthy for 8 years, but remember he also hit his expiration date at age 29 with a career comp% in carolina < 60. for jones to be successful long term i think he will need to keeping passing more and run less.
the same is true of fields but to a massively higher degree that imo is beyond improbable. he only had 2 games over 200 yards passing this past year. and of the limited attempts, he has the highest int% of any qb in the league through his first 2 years. last year he was dead last, this year he was 2nd to last to just dak. which is why if im chicago im grabbing a 1st+ from a QB desperate team like ATL and taking Bryce without a second thought.
didn't draft Fields so he's not wedded to him. But the problem isn't moving on from Fields, it's what can you get for him in a trade. I wouldn't give up a top 10 pick for Fields, which the author of that article seems to think is likely. Maybe a late first at most.
1 more fields stat to illustrate his issues - here are his QBR ranks
didn't draft Fields so he's not wedded to him. But the problem isn't moving on from Fields, it's what can you get for him in a trade. I wouldn't give up a top 10 pick for Fields, which the author of that article seems to think is likely. Maybe a late first at most.
i could see atlanta giving up #8 for him but the smarter move might be taking a 2024 first rd pick and say a 2023 second from a top 10 team if they wont give up their top 10 pick.
i could also see jets giving up #13 and houston giving up #12 if they dont like stroud or levis. washington could give up #16.
i think they will have options with fields since he's young and already at least somewhat proven. in a 2021 redraft i think he'd move up and go top 10 and i dont even like him. but he'd def be QB2 or QB3 ahead of wilson and lance. atlanta would probably drive pitts to chicago if they could just swap their pick from that year.
I hope Chicago does trade him. He showed some real promise this year, but that team is a disaster in terms of talent, management/coaching, and ownership (especially). And a young QB under a defensive minded HC is not the right recipe in today's game, IMV. Who is Fields going to learn from in Chicago? Luke Getsy the OC? Please...
From a business perspective, and ignoring how incompetent the Bears are, I do think, however, they should trade Fields to acquire more assets and reset on the rookie QB contract if they take a QB.
didn't draft Fields so he's not wedded to him. But the problem isn't moving on from Fields, it's what can you get for him in a trade. I wouldn't give up a top 10 pick for Fields, which the author of that article seems to think is likely. Maybe a late first at most.
i could see atlanta giving up #8 for him but the smarter move might be taking a 2024 first rd pick and say a 2023 second from a top 10 team if they wont give up their top 10 pick.
i could also see jets giving up #13 and houston giving up #12 if they dont like stroud or levis. washington could give up #16.
i think they will have options with fields since he's young and already at least somewhat proven. in a 2021 redraft i think he'd move up and go top 10 and i dont even like him. but he'd def be QB2 or QB3 ahead of wilson and lance. atlanta would probably drive pitts to chicago if they could just swap their pick from that year.
Your value proposition is way off. Atlanta passed him over originally to boot despite the fact they openly acknowledged they needed to find a QB of future behind Ryan. Fields has lost 2 years off his rookie deal and 5th year option is pending next off-season.
At most he would get a conditional 2nd. Jets aren’t trading their #1 for Fields either. That’s crazy talk.
I would be so worried about all the passes that will get knocked down at the LOS since he is like 5'10". He is also gonna get pounded at the weight he is. Better take Stroud if you trade Fields.
didn't draft Fields so he's not wedded to him. But the problem isn't moving on from Fields, it's what can you get for him in a trade. I wouldn't give up a top 10 pick for Fields, which the author of that article seems to think is likely. Maybe a late first at most.
i could see atlanta giving up #8 for him but the smarter move might be taking a 2024 first rd pick and say a 2023 second from a top 10 team if they wont give up their top 10 pick.
i could also see jets giving up #13 and houston giving up #12 if they dont like stroud or levis. washington could give up #16.
i think they will have options with fields since he's young and already at least somewhat proven. in a 2021 redraft i think he'd move up and go top 10 and i dont even like him. but he'd def be QB2 or QB3 ahead of wilson and lance. atlanta would probably drive pitts to chicago if they could just swap their pick from that year.
Your value proposition is way off. Atlanta passed him over originally to boot despite the fact they openly acknowledged they needed to find a QB of future behind Ryan. Fields has lost 2 years off his rookie deal and 5th year option is pending next off-season.
At most he would get a conditional 2nd. Jets aren’t trading their #1 for Fields either. That’s crazy talk.
darnold was an almost outright bust after year 3 and he brought back more than a conditional 2nd with just his 4th year and 5yo option.
wentz brought back more at 30m+ per each of the last 2 offseasons.
obviously no way for anyone to know until something happens but im pretty sure someone would give up 1st for fields (and some of those same teams might also be willing to give up a 1st for carr).
in a redraft im pretty sure fields would go top 10 so i dont know how using anyone's thought process from 2021 is applicable today. but hey, if atlanta wants to follow the same thought process that passed on chase and parsons and surtain for pitts who they dont even use effectively all the power to them.
I would be so worried about all the passes that will get knocked down at the LOS since he is like 5'10". He is also gonna get pounded at the weight he is. Better take Stroud if you trade Fields.
how'd that work out in the 2 championship games vs UGA's front last year? davis, wyatt, walker, carter were a bigger front than most nfl teams.
we'll see what the combine shows but he's listed an inch taller than russell wilson and 2 inches taller than kyler.
I would be so worried about all the passes that will get knocked down at the LOS since he is like 5'10". He is also gonna get pounded at the weight he is. Better take Stroud if you trade Fields.
He's such a question mark because of that body type. He's just not a thick guy like a Russell Wilson. Murray is even smaller, but he's thick, too.
The positive case for Young is that the NFL is moving very quickly to a situation where QBs will soon wear a label that reads: "Fragile: Handle with Care".
didn't draft Fields so he's not wedded to him. But the problem isn't moving on from Fields, it's what can you get for him in a trade. I wouldn't give up a top 10 pick for Fields, which the author of that article seems to think is likely. Maybe a late first at most.
i could see atlanta giving up #8 for him but the smarter move might be taking a 2024 first rd pick and say a 2023 second from a top 10 team if they wont give up their top 10 pick.
i could also see jets giving up #13 and houston giving up #12 if they dont like stroud or levis. washington could give up #16.
i think they will have options with fields since he's young and already at least somewhat proven. in a 2021 redraft i think he'd move up and go top 10 and i dont even like him. but he'd def be QB2 or QB3 ahead of wilson and lance. atlanta would probably drive pitts to chicago if they could just swap their pick from that year.
Your value proposition is way off. Atlanta passed him over originally to boot despite the fact they openly acknowledged they needed to find a QB of future behind Ryan. Fields has lost 2 years off his rookie deal and 5th year option is pending next off-season.
At most he would get a conditional 2nd. Jets aren’t trading their #1 for Fields either. That’s crazy talk.
darnold was an almost outright bust after year 3 and he brought back more than a conditional 2nd with just his 4th year and 5yo option.
wentz brought back more at 30m+ per each of the last 2 offseasons.
obviously no way for anyone to know until something happens but im pretty sure someone would give up 1st for fields (and some of those same teams might also be willing to give up a 1st for carr).
in a redraft im pretty sure fields would go top 10 so i dont know how using anyone's thought process from 2021 is applicable today. but hey, if atlanta wants to follow the same thought process that passed on chase and parsons and surtain for pitts who they dont even use effectively all the power to them.
How did those moves work out for Panthers and Colts? Both teams turned into dumpster fires this season and got head coaches fired. Teams are rightly recognizing the value of high draft picks for development and cap purposes rather than drunkenly trading them for a declining asset in need of redevelopment. Fields might be a different case but he’s not without risk.
Yes, he plays for a bad team with very little talent and he’s only in his 2nd year. He’s an unbelievable runner. But his passing is not good. 2200 yards, 17/11 in 15 games. They could get the #1 QB in the draft and get something for Fields. I’m moving on.
For NY Giant fans, this post is ironic as they come.
How did those moves work out for Panthers and Colts? Both teams turned into dumpster fires this season and got head coaches fired. Teams are rightly recognizing the value of high draft picks for development and cap purposes rather than drunkenly trading them for a declining asset in need of redevelopment. Fields might be a different case but he’s not without risk.
nothing is without risk. for indy the wentz move i guess worked out better than the rivers move that preceded it and the ryan move that succeeded it. im not sure frank reich cares how the extra pick from washington turned out at this point since he's on to carolina.
we'll see how much anyone has learned when we see what happens with carr. as always there are more teams who need QBs than QBs available and teams with high enough draft picks to get good ones. so i'd guess he gets traded for the similar comp as wentz.
frank reich's included there are a lot of teams with worse QBs than carr (and fields for that matter) that also don't have top 5 picks. the reason qbs cost what they cost is bc head coaches and gms generally prefer to not get fired. fields isnt for everyone but i think there's probably a coach desperate enough to roll the dice and i think rivera, arthur smith, and saleh could all fit that description.
Or do you go with the high upside prospect? A choice also fraught with some uncertainty and risk.
That would be short-sighted.
But they should absolutely be saying they like Fields right now.
This
I say this as someone who likes Jones. Any other position you take a player if they are better than what you have without a second thought.
For NY Giant fans, this post is ironic as they come.
Yup. QB conviction.
And my gut says they’re not willing to trade out of 1 slot because they know Texans will take Young. I’m more intrigued with whether Texans take a QB themselves and where Stroud or Levis fall to given Colts are also in hunt for QB and where Will Anderson goes too. I expect a heavy run on some OTs again in 1st similar to last year from around picks 5-6 through 15-20.
Sounds like Falcons may stick with Ridder for now and Panthers may make move for a Derek Carr (surprised not a draft pick consideration after Reichs tenure with QB carousel in Indy) but that’s the scuttlebut with Tepper wanting vet head coach and QB to make playoff run next few years.
So Daniel Jones is held back because of a poor supporting cast, but the same doesn’t go for Fields?
For what’s it’s worth, Fields had two more passing tds in 100 less passing attempts. Obviously the interceptions are a concern but Fields’ year 2 is pretty similar to Jones’ year 2 except with more production on the ground.
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Yes, he plays for a bad team with very little talent and he’s only in his 2nd year. He’s an unbelievable runner. But his passing is not good. 2200 yards, 17/11 in 15 games. They could get the #1 QB in the draft and get something for Fields. I’m moving on.
So Daniel Jones is held back because of a poor supporting cast, but the same doesn’t go for Fields?
For what’s it’s worth, Fields had two more passing tds in 100 less passing attempts. Obviously the interceptions are a concern but Fields’ year 2 is pretty similar to Jones’ year 2 except with more production on the ground.
Please do not apply the same standard to Daniel Jones as you would to other players. Thank you in advance for complying. We are watching you.
-- The Groupthink Committee
I hear Colts will trade kings ransom for the 1st pick
through most of his career fields has been in contention for lowest number of completions as a starting qb, and up until things clicked with his legs in the 2nd half this year his comp% was historically low even compared to other first/second year players through about 20 games. 4 of his first 6 games this year he completed 51% of his passes or lower. that is zach wilson/jamarcus russell level bad passing.
if you think jones didnt throw a lot this year, in 15 games fields attempted 150 less passes - which is a full 1/3 less. he only had 1 game this entire year where he completed more than 17 passes.
fields 2nd half was so good i think my position on him prior was wrong and he can be an effective starting qb because his legs were that good and they opened up a little bit of a passing game, but that said he has more value tied to his legs than any other qb in nfl history - which is risky on 2 fronts (injuries, long term effectiveness). in 7 of his last 10 games he ran 10+ times. 3 of those games were 15+ rush attempts. in the last 2 months he had almost the same number of attempts as barkley, which is not what you want from your qb. fields only had 1 game under 7 carries (6). Jones ran 6x or less in 9 of his 18 starts. overall he ran for a full 1/3 more rush attempts than jones (160 vs. 120). his 160 attempts was more than 20+ over cam newton's high rushing attempts year (and his passing attempts 150 fewer).
from a nyg standpoint i think even jones' 'cam newton level' rushing workload seemed like too much to be sustainable long term. i think the same about josh allen and buf too. cam stayed freakishly healthy for 8 years, but remember he also hit his expiration date at age 29 with a career comp% in carolina < 60. for jones to be successful long term i think he will need to keeping passing more and run less.
the same is true of fields but to a massively higher degree that imo is beyond improbable. he only had 2 games over 200 yards passing this past year. and of the limited attempts, he has the highest int% of any qb in the league through his first 2 years. last year he was dead last, this year he was 2nd to last to just dak. which is why if im chicago im grabbing a 1st+ from a QB desperate team like ATL and taking Bryce without a second thought.
passing QBR rank among QBs = 2nd worst overall out of 31 (ahead of just Baker)
what he did 2nd half showed impact i didnt think he had so you can give me an L there bc i thought he would be a full bust but im still very skeptical long term because it's an imbalanced workload far beyond what any other successful qb has ever had.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/seasontype/2/sort/cwepaPassesCondensed/dir/asc - ( New Window )
i could see atlanta giving up #8 for him but the smarter move might be taking a 2024 first rd pick and say a 2023 second from a top 10 team if they wont give up their top 10 pick.
i could also see jets giving up #13 and houston giving up #12 if they dont like stroud or levis. washington could give up #16.
i think they will have options with fields since he's young and already at least somewhat proven. in a 2021 redraft i think he'd move up and go top 10 and i dont even like him. but he'd def be QB2 or QB3 ahead of wilson and lance. atlanta would probably drive pitts to chicago if they could just swap their pick from that year.
From a business perspective, and ignoring how incompetent the Bears are, I do think, however, they should trade Fields to acquire more assets and reset on the rookie QB contract if they take a QB.
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didn't draft Fields so he's not wedded to him. But the problem isn't moving on from Fields, it's what can you get for him in a trade. I wouldn't give up a top 10 pick for Fields, which the author of that article seems to think is likely. Maybe a late first at most.
i could see atlanta giving up #8 for him but the smarter move might be taking a 2024 first rd pick and say a 2023 second from a top 10 team if they wont give up their top 10 pick.
i could also see jets giving up #13 and houston giving up #12 if they dont like stroud or levis. washington could give up #16.
i think they will have options with fields since he's young and already at least somewhat proven. in a 2021 redraft i think he'd move up and go top 10 and i dont even like him. but he'd def be QB2 or QB3 ahead of wilson and lance. atlanta would probably drive pitts to chicago if they could just swap their pick from that year.
Your value proposition is way off. Atlanta passed him over originally to boot despite the fact they openly acknowledged they needed to find a QB of future behind Ryan. Fields has lost 2 years off his rookie deal and 5th year option is pending next off-season.
At most he would get a conditional 2nd. Jets aren’t trading their #1 for Fields either. That’s crazy talk.
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didn't draft Fields so he's not wedded to him. But the problem isn't moving on from Fields, it's what can you get for him in a trade. I wouldn't give up a top 10 pick for Fields, which the author of that article seems to think is likely. Maybe a late first at most.
i could see atlanta giving up #8 for him but the smarter move might be taking a 2024 first rd pick and say a 2023 second from a top 10 team if they wont give up their top 10 pick.
i could also see jets giving up #13 and houston giving up #12 if they dont like stroud or levis. washington could give up #16.
i think they will have options with fields since he's young and already at least somewhat proven. in a 2021 redraft i think he'd move up and go top 10 and i dont even like him. but he'd def be QB2 or QB3 ahead of wilson and lance. atlanta would probably drive pitts to chicago if they could just swap their pick from that year.
Your value proposition is way off. Atlanta passed him over originally to boot despite the fact they openly acknowledged they needed to find a QB of future behind Ryan. Fields has lost 2 years off his rookie deal and 5th year option is pending next off-season.
At most he would get a conditional 2nd. Jets aren’t trading their #1 for Fields either. That’s crazy talk.
darnold was an almost outright bust after year 3 and he brought back more than a conditional 2nd with just his 4th year and 5yo option.
wentz brought back more at 30m+ per each of the last 2 offseasons.
obviously no way for anyone to know until something happens but im pretty sure someone would give up 1st for fields (and some of those same teams might also be willing to give up a 1st for carr).
in a redraft im pretty sure fields would go top 10 so i dont know how using anyone's thought process from 2021 is applicable today. but hey, if atlanta wants to follow the same thought process that passed on chase and parsons and surtain for pitts who they dont even use effectively all the power to them.
how'd that work out in the 2 championship games vs UGA's front last year? davis, wyatt, walker, carter were a bigger front than most nfl teams.
we'll see what the combine shows but he's listed an inch taller than russell wilson and 2 inches taller than kyler.
He's such a question mark because of that body type. He's just not a thick guy like a Russell Wilson. Murray is even smaller, but he's thick, too.
The positive case for Young is that the NFL is moving very quickly to a situation where QBs will soon wear a label that reads: "Fragile: Handle with Care".
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didn't draft Fields so he's not wedded to him. But the problem isn't moving on from Fields, it's what can you get for him in a trade. I wouldn't give up a top 10 pick for Fields, which the author of that article seems to think is likely. Maybe a late first at most.
i could see atlanta giving up #8 for him but the smarter move might be taking a 2024 first rd pick and say a 2023 second from a top 10 team if they wont give up their top 10 pick.
i could also see jets giving up #13 and houston giving up #12 if they dont like stroud or levis. washington could give up #16.
i think they will have options with fields since he's young and already at least somewhat proven. in a 2021 redraft i think he'd move up and go top 10 and i dont even like him. but he'd def be QB2 or QB3 ahead of wilson and lance. atlanta would probably drive pitts to chicago if they could just swap their pick from that year.
Your value proposition is way off. Atlanta passed him over originally to boot despite the fact they openly acknowledged they needed to find a QB of future behind Ryan. Fields has lost 2 years off his rookie deal and 5th year option is pending next off-season.
At most he would get a conditional 2nd. Jets aren’t trading their #1 for Fields either. That’s crazy talk.
darnold was an almost outright bust after year 3 and he brought back more than a conditional 2nd with just his 4th year and 5yo option.
wentz brought back more at 30m+ per each of the last 2 offseasons.
obviously no way for anyone to know until something happens but im pretty sure someone would give up 1st for fields (and some of those same teams might also be willing to give up a 1st for carr).
in a redraft im pretty sure fields would go top 10 so i dont know how using anyone's thought process from 2021 is applicable today. but hey, if atlanta wants to follow the same thought process that passed on chase and parsons and surtain for pitts who they dont even use effectively all the power to them.
How did those moves work out for Panthers and Colts? Both teams turned into dumpster fires this season and got head coaches fired. Teams are rightly recognizing the value of high draft picks for development and cap purposes rather than drunkenly trading them for a declining asset in need of redevelopment. Fields might be a different case but he’s not without risk.
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Yes, he plays for a bad team with very little talent and he’s only in his 2nd year. He’s an unbelievable runner. But his passing is not good. 2200 yards, 17/11 in 15 games. They could get the #1 QB in the draft and get something for Fields. I’m moving on.
For NY Giant fans, this post is ironic as they come.
+1
I'd go Young at #1 and trade Fields.
How did those moves work out for Panthers and Colts? Both teams turned into dumpster fires this season and got head coaches fired. Teams are rightly recognizing the value of high draft picks for development and cap purposes rather than drunkenly trading them for a declining asset in need of redevelopment. Fields might be a different case but he’s not without risk.
nothing is without risk. for indy the wentz move i guess worked out better than the rivers move that preceded it and the ryan move that succeeded it. im not sure frank reich cares how the extra pick from washington turned out at this point since he's on to carolina.
we'll see how much anyone has learned when we see what happens with carr. as always there are more teams who need QBs than QBs available and teams with high enough draft picks to get good ones. so i'd guess he gets traded for the similar comp as wentz.
frank reich's included there are a lot of teams with worse QBs than carr (and fields for that matter) that also don't have top 5 picks. the reason qbs cost what they cost is bc head coaches and gms generally prefer to not get fired. fields isnt for everyone but i think there's probably a coach desperate enough to roll the dice and i think rivera, arthur smith, and saleh could all fit that description.
sy floated something along those lines a week ago.
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... some form of trade that sends Fields to Baltimore, Jackson to the Colts, and some package of picks back to the Bears.
sy floated something along those lines a week ago.
I must have read that and forgot.