The following are the raw stats for Daniel Jones in 2022
If you analyze these stats, it is not possible to be impressed by what Daniel accomplished this year.
Daniel Jones was.
The 5th youngest of the prominent QBs at 26.
Remember that Jones stats are for 16 games as he did not play vs. the Eagles.
Passing.
The 6th best QBR at 60.8
Lead the league with on target throws at an amazing 81% (this excludes drops )
He had only 12.2% poor throws, 4th best in the league.
Was the 6th most accurate deep thrower at 67.2%
Lead the league with the lowest interception percentage at 1.1%
Rushing.
He was 4th (708) in rushing yardage, 4th (5.9) in yards per attempt,10th overall and 3rd among QBs with (57) rushing first downs, was 21st in the league and first among QBs with (7) rushing Tds.
General.
Jones was the 8th rated QB in Red Zone efficiency.
Supporting Cast.
All this occurred while Jones was sacked 5th most (44), and he was pressured the 5th most at 25.1%.
The Giants highest rated receivers are Slayton 48th ,James 54th, Hodgins 68th, and Bellinger at 34th among TEs.
Giants WR core was rated 22nd by PFF.
The Offensive line was ranked 31st by PFF.
Intangibles.
Played the entire season, lead the offense, was tough, made the players around him better, was clutch. The receiver core was upgraded by PFF due to high percentage of completions by the WRS. Jones accuracy increased catch probability.
The Running attach was improved by Jones rushing on RPOs and play action.
Jones stats improved as the season went on he was among the top QBR in his last (4) games, Colts 96.8, Minn 57.1, Wash 75.2, and 76.5 vs the Eagles.
You can come to your own conclusions as to who Daniel Jones is, but the stats do tell the story.
The stats are not totally inclusive but the QBR is.
The other stats are selected to demonstrate Jones improvement and best qualities.
Rather than accepting the facts as they are, you will attempt to explain or discredit the facts. Why don't you make a similar analysis for your prefered QBs, Wilson etc.
It is unfortunate that you are so stuck in your disdain for Jones that you can't be objective.
Or is that not the story?
Dump da bum. :-)
Personally, I would do everything we reasonably can to keep DJ , but would happily FT him if no deal is worked out and take the 2 first rounders if someone wants to way overpay him.
Oh, yes, it will.
It was a good year for Jones, but there is significant room for improvement!
Sy's review
What? How ? It’s virtually every single passing metric available. Lol. Sure it’s cherry picking except it’s not, it’s just good stats from a good player.
for someone with such a jolly handle, you exhibit some serious antisocial traits. I think you can do better.
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There are a lot of folks who don't really understand what cherry-picking stats is. Now, this is cherry-picking stats.
What? How ? It’s virtually every single passing metric available. Lol. Sure it’s cherry picking except it’s not, it’s just good stats from a good player.
it only mentions a few stats where Jones seems to do well. It ignores important stats that are not favorable to Jones in an effort to whitewash his performance.
For instance:
Jones was:
25th in YA
25th in Y/G
28th Y/C
28th in TD%
14th in Rate
and there are the air yards metrics which aren't flattering.
This wasn't a post about situational football, which I once posted and got attacked for cherry-picking, even though I reported every zone in my post, including favorable and unfavorable. This is literally the definition of cherry-picking. Choosing favorable stats and leaving out unfavorable stats. And now I am smeared by a dancing bear and others for drawing attention to it. You don't have to fall for their tactics and pile on. There are reasons people remain uncertain about the passing component of Jones' game. Smart people including JonC and Sy. And for some reason their skepticism is met with respect while my treatment here is horrendous and violates site guidelines.
You are so fucking insufferable. Every time someone posts anything positive about Jones because it makes you look bad your response is to shit on it. Seriously go root for another team.
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There are a lot of folks who don't really understand what cherry-picking stats is. Now, this is cherry-picking stats.
You are so fucking insufferable. Every time someone posts anything positive about Jones because it makes you look bad your response is to shit on it. Seriously go root for another team.
hey I can root for a team and still think a player may not be good enough, especially when people are cheering for him to get elite dollars. What's it to you if we disagree. Grow a pair. It's just words. You can ignore them, are engage in civil conversation.
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In comment 16017331 Producer said:
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There are a lot of folks who don't really understand what cherry-picking stats is. Now, this is cherry-picking stats.
What? How ? It’s virtually every single passing metric available. Lol. Sure it’s cherry picking except it’s not, it’s just good stats from a good player.
it only mentions a few stats where Jones seems to do well. It ignores important stats that are not favorable to Jones in an effort to whitewash his performance.
For instance:
Jones was:
25th in YA
25th in Y/G
28th Y/C
28th in TD%
14th in Rate
and there are the air yards metrics which aren't flattering.
This wasn't a post about situational football, which I once posted and got attacked for cherry-picking, even though I reported every zone in my post, including favorable and unfavorable. This is literally the definition of cherry-picking. Choosing favorable stats and leaving out unfavorable stats. And now I am smeared by a dancing bear and others for drawing attention to it. You don't have to fall for their tactics and pile on. There are reasons people remain uncertain about the passing component of Jones' game. Smart people including JonC and Sy. And for some reason their skepticism is met with respect while my treatment here is horrendous and violates site guidelines.
The problem with your stats is that your first 2 of 3 are virtually the same stat and the beloved Justin Herbert is virtually exactly the same . I am not sure what you mean by Rate, QBR or rating? - but again Jones is sitting there with name brand QBs. Rating on Jones is tied with Carr at 13 and QBR Jones is 6th! Why didn't you bring that up? He is also 6th in completion %....
You have also failed to point out that the Giants ran a different offense than most teams where Barkley was the featured player for most of the year(and after watching the AFCC game I bet both teams wish they had that option). It was clearly obvious that the Giants did not have the WRs to be able to throw the ball until a few weeks after Hodgins arrived.
And further proof that WRs matter - what happened to the Chiefs last night after 3 of their upper WRs left with injuries? Even the great Patrick Mahomes could do nothing and he still had Travis Kelce(and no running game).
Now, I agree that the bank should not be broken for Jones. But that is a relative term. Upper level guys are getting $45+ mill per and even middling are getting $35 mill per.