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Patrick Mahommes question

Blackmax00 : 1/29/2023 7:43 pm
We all know Macadoo was beating the drum for him. Does anybody think he'd be a star if he was a Giant? Is he that good or is the situation more of a factor? Personally I think he crashes and burns in NY with inept coaching.
If that’s the case than that means no QB  
UConn4523 : 1/29/2023 7:44 pm : link
would be good here no matter what which doesn’t make much sense. He’s the best QB since Peyton Manning, IMO.
Is this a serious question?  
Producer : 1/29/2023 7:44 pm : link
If you can't see Patrick Mahomes is special, why do you even watch football?
Player development  
JB_in_DC : 1/29/2023 7:51 pm : link
Is such a huge part of NFL and it’s a piece we fans get very little window it. Would be amazing to watch a documentary series about Mahomes rookie year as a backup and see first hand how he and the coaching staff approached his development.
RE: Is this a serious question?  
Blackmax00 : 1/29/2023 7:56 pm : link
In comment 16018736 Producer said:
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If you can't see Patrick Mahomes is special, why do you even watch football?

Yes he's awesome. But he's in the perfect situation too. I think the Giants would have hindered him
He's making the situation perfect.  
Producer : 1/29/2023 8:04 pm : link
You didn't think KC was so special when it was Alex Smith.
I also question…  
Chris in Philly : 1/29/2023 8:07 pm : link
where the McAdoo wanted Mahomes rumor came from. Probably McAdoo.
RE: I also question…  
Blue21 : 1/29/2023 8:10 pm : link
In comment 16018790 Chris in Philly said:
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where the McAdoo wanted Mahomes rumor came from. Probably McAdoo.
Always wondered that myself . Has it ever actually been verified?
IIRC McAdoo  
NYG07 : 1/30/2023 2:19 am : link
Went in person to see Mahomes' pro day which was the only visit he took. I could be misremembering.
RE: RE: I also question…  
Jim in Tampa : 1/30/2023 7:12 am : link
In comment 16018797 Blue21 said:
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In comment 16018790 Chris in Philly said:


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where the McAdoo wanted Mahomes rumor came from. Probably McAdoo.

Always wondered that myself . Has it ever actually been verified?

Linked below is an article dated April 28, 2017, the day after the first round (while the draft was still going on) suggesting that the Giants "tried to trade up to select Mahomes because head coach Ben McAdoo "loves" him and was "very upset" they weren't able to land him."

Verified - ( New Window )
Here's Another Report Suggesting That the Giants...  
Jim in Tampa : 1/30/2023 7:36 am : link
did NOT try to trade up for Mahomes.

However the main point still stands... that on the day Mahomes was drafted, and before he became the superstar QB that he is today... McAdoo did in fact LOVE Mahomes and wanted the Giants to draft him.

No Trade Attempt? - ( New Window )
He'd have been 'Good' here,  
Ron Johnson : 1/30/2023 8:16 am : link
but 'good' here would have meant winning 6 or 7 games a season.
Patrick Mahomes is the most talented QB  
RC in MD : 1/30/2023 9:21 am : link
to come into the league in a long long time (Luck may be the closest). He would have succeeded in most systems (unless he was forced to QB sneak on 3rd and 9); however, KC system absolutely maximized his success. His pairing with Andy Reid was the optimal pairing. However, he would have still be really successful with other offensive minded coaches.
He's a generational player  
JOrthman : 1/30/2023 10:17 am : link
With that being said, let's not forget how good KC's coaches and system have been. They were a playoff team with Alex Smith as the starting QB.
RE: Here's Another Report Suggesting That the Giants...  
kickoff : 1/31/2023 1:48 pm : link
In comment 16019464 Jim in Tampa said:
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did NOT try to trade up for Mahomes.

However the main point still stands... that on the day Mahomes was drafted, and before he became the superstar QB that he is today... McAdoo did in fact LOVE Mahomes and wanted the Giants to draft him. No Trade Attempt? - ( New Window )

With Giants he might have fared a little better than DJ. Recent team is a QB killer. I see no QB playing GREAT with past few Giant teams.
He’d be a Giant star (pun intended)  
jpkmets : 1/31/2023 2:24 pm : link
He’s got the talent to win with any setup. Plus, his dad was a Met and so the family would be a cross-sport story.

Wish it had come to pass.
One M, not two.  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/31/2023 4:15 pm : link
Or was that not the question?
RE: I also question…  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/31/2023 4:16 pm : link
In comment 16018790 Chris in Philly said:
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where the McAdoo wanted Mahomes rumor came from. Probably McAdoo.

The rumor was making the rounds before the draft and AT the draft (that was the year the draft was in Philly, you might have been there and heard it too).
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