A big homestand upcoming for the Knicks, Lakers, Heat, Clippers, Sixers all at home, if they can go 2-2 that would be fantastic. Just have to tread water during this tough stretch.
Trade deadline is next week and based on reports the most active talks are with Milwaukee surrounding Reddish and Grayson Allen.
I think the main objective for the Knicks is to get a wing defender who can shoot to come off the bench..
I think if they can do that with Quickley coming off the bench, the bench unit can become a strength again.
I like Mcbride but his inability to be a catch and shoot player is hurting them..
Quickley needs to be in the finishing group regardless, Grimes or Rj can be in based on how they are playing and situation.
Should be a fun week and hopefully we get some rumors
I doubt it happens. Nothing ever happens.
I still can't quite figure how inconsistent this team is, but that's a lot of star power coming through the Garden. Should be fun.
I still can't quite figure how inconsistent this team is, but that's a lot of star power coming through the Garden. Should be fun.
I dont think its necassarily inconsistent, its just that some games the lack of a true star shines through..I think Brunson and Randle are 100% should be all stars, but they arent stars, Brunson can close games sometimes but Randle hasnt shown that abilith..
I also think the fit between Brunson, Rj and Randle is still a little clumsy and thats ehy the iso game comes into play to much
hahaha i dont think they get Allen, i think their main target is OG and Reddish will go out for Ibaka and George Hill..
The New York Knicks are one of five teams to have a losing record at home this season.
The other four teams:
Charlotte Hornets
Detroit Pistons
Houston Rockets
San Antonio Spurs
Otherwise known as the worst four teams in the NBA so far this season.
Suns have given permission to Crowder to speak to Milwaukee, i would assume about role and contract..
Knicks and Suns are both interested in OG, Kniicks have shown a willingness to offer multiple first round picks..It comes down to if Toronto is willing to trade him
Rj is very difficult to trade right now
I can’t tell if you’re serious or just trolling Greg, lol
You could close with randle, OG, Rj, Quivk or grimes and Brunson against most teams and the spacing and perimiter defense would be fantastic..
I think they have plenty of picks to be able to trade for OG and then in the offseason make a trade for a star..
and i only think they need 1
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That would be a huge get for the Knicks.
I can’t tell if you’re serious or just trolling Greg, lol
Oh I'm dead serious, but the reason I want him so bad is mostly because of Greg. His irrational hatred of college players and continuing that for their careers is one of the most annoying things on bbi for me. Then there are people that follow his lead. Therefore, I want it!
What is a fair trade ceiling for OG? What is the most you'd be willing to give up?
For me, I'd trade Obi, McBride, and up to 1 lightly protected draft pick(maybe top 10)and 1 of the traded firsts we have. If none of our own, up to 3 of the traded picks.
I think a part of that is that more teams are playoff contenders now because of the play in.
I personally think Rose and co are a bit too conservative and afraid to take bigger swings/risks but in this case it does work in their favor. Hard to see them get fleeced, I think they just won't wind up sealing the deal instead.
The teams that are selling or on the brink have set high prices for their role players..
They will go down as you get closer..I also think certain teams are afraid to blow it up, like the Bulls and Raptors..
Wisconsin,my alma mater,was in the final against Coach K and Duke.
We were all set to finally win a NATTYYYYY,when some Freshman came off the bench and took over the game.
That Kid's name was Grayson Allen.
So forgive me if I am biased in this conversation.
The gobert trade's side effect is everyone thinks their bench players are worth first round picks now.
OG is probably a precursor move to trading RJ and landing a superstar...he is an excellent complimentary piece to a championship team potentially. He is the young Draymond Green of the NBA. Many of the championship teams have that kind of player on the roster.
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Has there ever been a season with so few trades? Unless I’m missing something there has barely been any trades this year and doesn’t seem to have any major trades in the works.
The gobert trade's side effect is everyone thinks their bench players are worth first round picks now.
I agree with this and I also believe that deal had an effect on the negotiations for Mitchell
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help but he doesn't move the needle enough to start giving up our future unprotected picks IMO. Certainly would be willing to discuss the other picks we have coming. What's interesting to me is what the Knicks' interest in OG signals about how they feel about RJ.
OG is probably a precursor move to trading RJ and landing a superstar...he is an excellent complimentary piece to a championship team potentially. He is the young Draymond Green of the NBA. Many of the championship teams have that kind of player on the roster.
Draymond and OG may have some similarities as defenders, but that's where the comparison ends. They're quite different offensively.
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help but he doesn't move the needle enough to start giving up our future unprotected picks IMO. Certainly would be willing to discuss the other picks we have coming. What's interesting to me is what the Knicks' interest in OG signals about how they feel about RJ.
OG is probably a precursor move to trading RJ and landing a superstar...he is an excellent complimentary piece to a championship team potentially. He is the young Draymond Green of the NBA. Many of the championship teams have that kind of player on the roster.
Draymond and OG may have some similarities as defenders, but that's where the comparison ends. They're quite different offensively.
Sure but both while elite top 5 NBA defenders in their prime that can gaurd mutliple positions both also have an offensive game and are not Frank Nkitilinas out there either.
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The Nuggets believe they have traction on potentially acquiring a first-round pick for Bones Hyland, per @msinger
Point taken the offensive game is not Draymonds . But he came intot je NBA very raw and has improved every year offensively. He may never be Green offensively but he is already a decent offensive player and could still improve a bit more. That said in no way should he command a Superstar haul but Obi and 2 picks or 3 picks with 2 protected I would do.
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The Nuggets believe they have traction on potentially acquiring a first-round pick for Bones Hyland, per @msinger
Bones Highland is a solid player, and I could see a contender giving up a 1 for him pretty easily but I don't see him being a great fit with the Knicks roster.
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The Nuggets believe they have traction on potentially acquiring a first-round pick for Bones Hyland, per @msinger
Bones Highland is a solid player, and I could see a contender giving up a 1 for him pretty easily but I don't see him being a great fit with the Knicks roster.
I was just coming to post this, i havnt watched enough of Denver but i thought he was having a good year...How is his defense?
interesting than yeah
Two defense-first types -- Aaron Gordon and Bruce Brown -- are thriving on offense orbiting Nikola Jokic. Michael Porter Jr. will always skew offense, but he's made strides on the other end.
Next up: Hyland, their brash sixth man, shooting 44% on 3s and building bob-and-weave pick-and-roll chemistry with Jokic. Denver needs Hyland's offense in its endless quest to tread water when Jokic rests. When great defenses take away the easy stuff, the Nuggets will be tempted to shove Hyland into crunch-time lineups alongside Jokic, Jamal Murray, and perhaps Porter.
The Nuggets don't need Hyland to be a good defender, or even an average one. Apex scorers will hunt him, and the Nuggets know how to rotate and cover for that. What they can't absorb is Hyland igniting fires all over the floor, against every rote action.
(Missing embedded video here of Hyland going under a screen and getting completely caught to give up an open 3)
Hyland flubs the most basic pindown imaginable for Shaedon Sharpe. Screen navigation on and off the ball is a constant issue. If Hyland wants to play major postseason minutes, he has to clean this stuff up. He ranks dead last among all players in defensive estimated plus-minus and 445th in ESPN's adjusted defensive plus-minus."
Who are the players involved?
Salaries don't match unless you an expiring contract like Rose and Cam
Did the Knicks actually offer this, or this speculation?
That seems steep for OG IMO
I can't see giving up too much for him .
I can't see giving up too much for him .
I think the plan is to get him and then frees uo some other llahers on the team to go get a star..
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But doesn't move the needle very much and you are going to need to pay him next year or lose him.
I can't see giving up too much for him .
I think the plan is to get him and then frees uo some other llahers on the team to go get a star..
That's speculation on your part that has never been mentioned in any reports.
At 22 years old RJs upside is higher than OG while OG defense is definitely better, his shooting splits are not leaps ahead of RJ especially with the age difference.
I think the Knicks are looking add OG to this current lineup to improve over Grimes lack of scoring as a 4th option and wing defender.
Some interesting stats... - ( New Window )
Yikes
1. Kyle Kuzma: 0.667
2. O.G. Anunoby: 0.708
3. Evan Mobley: 0.750
4. R.J. Barrett: 0.787
5. Julius Randle: 0.792
You’re not trading for OG Anunoby for his pull-ups and iso scoring prowess
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this reddit thread here for everyone who wants to trade for OG. Some interesting stats... - ( New Window )
You’re not trading for OG Anunoby for his pull-ups and iso scoring prowess
Does Thibs know that?
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Fewest PPP on Post-Ups (Min. 40 Poss.):
1. Kyle Kuzma: 0.667
2. O.G. Anunoby: 0.708
3. Evan Mobley: 0.750
4. R.J. Barrett: 0.787
5. Julius Randle: 0.792
Seems like he’d fit right in here
Siakam, VanVleet, Anunoby, Trent Jr, Barnes.....all good ballplayers.
Siakam, VanVleet, Anunoby, Trent Jr, Barnes.....all good ballplayers.
I think they have to many mouths to feed and guys arent willing to take a lesser role or effect the game in another way..
Barnes and Siakim are clearly their top 2 players at least according to the organization and everything runs through them. They also occupy the same space, even with Siakim able to step out and hit a 3..
FVV has struggled with his shot (except when he plays the Knicks) and he is not really a distributor so he is looking for his shot more. So now thats 3 guys who look for their shot..
Trent Jr i think is 1 of the guys who actually accepts a lesser role, he is a good defender, who can shoot the 3 and play off the ball..
OG i think can be an offf the ball player, his value is obviously his defense but again he is the 4th maybe 5th option on the team so is he really being used properly?
They have no size, their bench is lacking and Nurse is like Thibs, plays his starters big minutes and really doesnt adjust much
Siakam, VanVleet, Anunoby, Trent Jr, Barnes.....all good ballplayers.
Apparently, there are major chemistry problems (including the fact a few guys feel underpaid by the Raptors, FVV for one) Barnes has also regressed and there is a "feeling" there is pretty major regret they didn't pull the trigger on the Nets/Durant ask.
Flip side is that many teams are reportedly interested for those very same reasons.
The more Dukies, the better :P
I think for it to work with this current roster, Rj is going to have to take a step back and Thibs is going to have to be versatile with his wings..
If you trade Obi in the deal, i dont want to see Hart and Sims off the bench, i want OG playing the backup 4..
I want to see lineups with Randle at the 5 next OG, Rj , Quick or Grimes and Brunson..
I think for it to work with this current roster, Rj is going to have to take a step back and Thibs is going to have to be versatile with his wings..
If you trade Obi in the deal, i dont want to see Hart and Sims off the bench, i want OG playing the backup 4..
I want to see lineups with Randle at the 5 next OG, Rj , Quick or Grimes and Brunson..
Basketball Reference’s site doesn’t show him having any games at PF, and while I’m sure Toronto has gone small at times I’d be a little concerned trading Obi and not having a legitimate PF in case Randle were to get injured
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and i want to see how it works with him for the rest of the season, BUT i do think this will lead to another trade in the offseason..
I think for it to work with this current roster, Rj is going to have to take a step back and Thibs is going to have to be versatile with his wings..
If you trade Obi in the deal, i dont want to see Hart and Sims off the bench, i want OG playing the backup 4..
I want to see lineups with Randle at the 5 next OG, Rj , Quick or Grimes and Brunson..
Basketball Reference’s site doesn’t show him having any games at PF, and while I’m sure Toronto has gone small at times I’d be a little concerned trading Obi and not having a legitimate PF in case Randle were to get injured
The backup PF position is basically 10 to 15 minutes a night, OG is big enough to play the backup 4 with the bench..
The thing with Toronto is they are the definition of positionless basketball, Siakim is their stsrting center..
the same issues fans have with Nurse are the same with Thibs, over plays his starters and not a lot of adjustments
I hope they move on from Ujiri and we hire him to replace Leon. Ah, wishful thinking.
I could see the Suns offering up 3 unprotected 1sts
I could see the Suns offering up 3 unprotected 1sts
Their new owner reportedly has told their FO they have his full support if they choose to be ultra aggressive.
ALthough trading firsts in the nba is starting to feel like the initial talk on an NFL contract. You hear these crazy NFL contracts and then the guaranteed money/structure isnt that bad. In the NBA you can get 3 firsts but with the protections these days that might not be shit. I mean do the knicks trade the Raptors the Bucks pick, another pick and one of their own with top 25 protections? Well thats not that bad, ha. ANd im not saying TOR does that, just saying we see these deals where a team gives up a first and its like "OVERPAY!" then you see its top 25 protected, then top 20 protected, then top 18 protected, then it turns into some second round pick, ha.
Rumor is that Cam would be in the deal
You never know in the NBA and things change quickly, but who is the next possible star to become available via trade?
Lillard, KAT...maybe Lamelo Ball or Trae Young? I really don't see a likely target for the Knicks unless maybe Anthony Davis is moved.
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and i want to see how it works with him for the rest of the season, BUT i do think this will lead to another trade in the offseason..
I think for it to work with this current roster, Rj is going to have to take a step back and Thibs is going to have to be versatile with his wings..
If you trade Obi in the deal, i dont want to see Hart and Sims off the bench, i want OG playing the backup 4..
I want to see lineups with Randle at the 5 next OG, Rj , Quick or Grimes and Brunson..
Basketball Reference’s site doesn’t show him having any games at PF, and while I’m sure Toronto has gone small at times I’d be a little concerned trading Obi and not having a legitimate PF in case Randle were to get injured
The backup PF position is basically 10 to 15 minutes a night, OG is big enough to play the backup 4 with the bench..
The thing with Toronto is they are the definition of positionless basketball, Siakim is their stsrting center..
That doesn’t address my point about if Randle were to be injured
You never know in the NBA and things change quickly, but who is the next possible star to become available via trade?
Lillard, KAT...maybe Lamelo Ball or Trae Young? I really don't see a likely target for the Knicks unless maybe Anthony Davis is moved.
Trading for OG does not stop them from trading for a star
I guess it would free up RJ for a summertime trade? But it doesn't make the roster make a lot of sense now.
That would be awesome. Big fan of Bey since college
I like Mcbride but i think he is the main rotstion guy that needs to be upgraded..
His inability to hit the catch and shoot 3 has killed them in games, especially with how good Quickley is getting into the paint
OG is not adding a win to this current team, I hope they walk away from this.
I can't see giving 2 unprotected for OG.
OG is not adding a win to this current team, I hope they walk away from this.
I can't see giving 2 unprotected for OG.
I wouldnt do it but hes going to go for 3 1sts, 1 unprotected, 1 lightly protected and than 1 lottery portected more than likely..
The position he plays is highly coveted
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It sure seems like superstar players moved around a lot more often when the Knicks had no cap space/tradable assets and flexibility.
Where is that top 15 player who is growing angrier and angrier with his current digs and wants MSG. Where you at.
It sure seems like superstar players moved around a lot more often when the Knicks had no cap space/tradable assets and flexibility.
Where is that top 15 player who is growing angrier and angrier with his current digs and wants MSG. Where you at.
To quote Joe Schoen, don't shop hungry. Hopefully they don't force something big at the deadline just because we're all hungry for a big improvement.
Sure. He's still very young. Right now, though, he doesn't belong in the NBA.
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something but right now he's a liability. I'd rather they dust off Fournier or Rose when they need bench minutes.
Sure. He's still very young. Right now, though, he doesn't belong in the NBA.
His biggest problem i think is he has no idea how to play off the ball, in college and even when he goes down to the G league, he is the best player on the court, he always had the ball and cna be agressive scoring..
With the Knicks he is off the ball player, gets a couple of shots and thats it and he struggles doing that
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The Toronto Raptors would like to get off of OG Anunoby’s contract before they have to pay him after next season, per @Gambo987
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I remember Ball saying a couple of months back that he couldn't even walk up stairs without feeling pain. Good God.