Interesting comparison, Tiki had success late in his career and Saquon had a great 1st year then 3 below average and now a good year
Tiki's last 3 years
Rush Avg Pass Total
1,518 4.7 578 2,096
1,860 5.2 530 2,390
1,662 5.1 465 2,127
Tiki was the league leader 2 out of the 3 years in total yards
Saquons 2 best years
Rush Avg Pass Total
1,307 5.0 721 2,028
1,312 4.4 338 1,650
Barkley was the league leader in total yards his rookie year, he was 7th this year
Me personally I think Barkley has more talent but Tiki was the better player. From Tiki's 4th year till his 10th year he was over 1600 total yards every year but 1(He only played 14 games that year) and over 1900 total yards 4 out of 7.
Thoughts?
I want to sign Barkely so we get that version of him too.
There is no sure thing he gets to that point. Just because Tiki did it certainly doesn't mean he will, and I'm not sure of the wisdom of paying a guy on the hopes he takes THAT kind of leap. That was unprecedented and still is.
I dont know that Saquon becomes that level of runner. He may never have Tiki's patience or vision as a runner.
This is another good point. They spent several years doggedly splitting the workload between them even when it was very obvious that Tiki was the superior back
I mean at the end of the day is it really that wild of a statement to say that SB was our only playmaker and teams game planned against him, daring us to pass? If you were a defensive coordinator, wouldn't you? We had no vertical threat, no depth, overall weak WR core and bad pass blocking.
We have a QB who is at least as good as Justin Herbert (just ask around on BBI if you don’t believe me), why would teams stack the box against Barkley when they have DJ's cannon to worry about?
I dont know that Saquon becomes that level of runner. He may never have Tiki's patience or vision as a runner.
That's a good point. Part of Tiki's giant transformation was learning how to run so that he almost never took a big direct hit. He mentioned taking a little hop right before impact so defenders would push him back while he remained upright (versus getting knocked over with feet planted in the ground), allowing him to sometimes stay on his feet and break the tackle. How many backs have changed their game like that to improve their effectiveness and durability?
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I mean at the end of the day is it really that wild of a statement to say that SB was our only playmaker and teams game planned against him, daring us to pass? If you were a defensive coordinator, wouldn't you? We had no vertical threat, no depth, overall weak WR core and bad pass blocking.
We have a QB who is at least as good as Justin Herbert (just ask around on BBI if you don’t believe me), why would teams stack the box against Barkley when they have DJ's cannon to worry about?
because they can cover every Giants receiver 1 on 1.