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Will Jerry Rice's Receiving Records Ever Be Broken?

OBJ_AllDay : 1/31/2023 3:26 pm
I have my doubts. Largely because Jerry played for 20 seasons at a position you just don't see that happening at in current times. However, with the addition of a 17th game in a pass happy league here are some active players that may have an outside shot (at the yards atleast). I doubt anyone touches 197 td's at wr though. Plus so much of it has to do with getting consistent qb for years on end.

Jerry Rice 303 games/22,895 Yards (75.56 ypg)/197 Tds

Active Players With An Outside Chance

1. Davante Adams 133 games/9,637 yards(72.45 ypg)/87 Tds

2. Stephon Diggs 119 games/8,812 Yards(74.05 ypg)/59 Tds

3. Tyrek Hill 108 games/8,340 Yards(77.22 ypg) /64 Tds

4. Justin Jefferson 50 games/4,825 Yards(96.5 ypg)/25 Tds
with the way passing has evolved  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 1/31/2023 3:33 pm : link
it's definitely possible. Especially as you see athletes hang a little longer in other sports. Brady, LeBron, and Djokovic being three current examples of guys breaking the mold for expected career longevity.

It will be hard for anyone to play as long and as great as Rice did. But it's definitely possible. Justin Jefferson is on quite the pace so far, maybe he's the guy.
Jefferson  
allstarjim : 1/31/2023 3:36 pm : link
He'll only be 24 this upcoming season, needs to average 1,506 yards to edge him for another 12 years. He's coming off an 1800 yard season. To get past the TD mark, he'll need to average slightly more than 14.3 TDs over that span. Need to enjoy both health and longevity, but it's possible. The TD mark is probably tougher, but both are really tough benchmarks.
Doubt it  
JoeyBigBlue : 1/31/2023 3:36 pm : link
Rice’s consistency and longevity is not seen in today’s game.
RE: Jefferson  
JoeyBigBlue : 1/31/2023 3:38 pm : link
In comment 16021027 allstarjim said:
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He'll only be 24 this upcoming season, needs to average 1,506 yards to edge him for another 12 years. He's coming off an 1800 yard season. To get past the TD mark, he'll need to average slightly more than 14.3 TDs over that span. Need to enjoy both health and longevity, but it's possible. The TD mark is probably tougher, but both are really tough benchmarks.



Only needs to average 1500 yards for the next 12 seasons? LOL. Good luck with that.
For Comparison  
Giants_West : 1/31/2023 3:39 pm : link
Here is Jerry Rice's stats through his first 6 seasons:

108 Games/9072 yards(98.23 ypg)/93TDs




Rice  
allstarjim : 1/31/2023 3:39 pm : link
At age 40, put together a 92-catch, 1,211 and 7 TD campaign. Just incredible.
As much as teams pass more today  
Greg from LI : 1/31/2023 3:56 pm : link
I doubt it simply because Rice's longevity is almost without precedent at the position. He stayed very productive through age 40. Most of the other great WRs start to drop off significantly around 33-34. Going through the list of reception leaders at the position.... Marvin Harrison's last 1000 yard season was age 33, Larry Fitzgerald's was age 33, Anquan Boldin at age 34, Cris Carter at 35, Tim Brown at 35, Reggie Wayne at 34, Andre Johnson at 32, Steve Smith at 35, Isaac Bruce at 34, Randy Moss at 32, etc. Henry Ellard actually had a late-career renaissance ages 33-to 35 but was basically finished after his age 35 season. Terrell Owens' last season was rather good, 72 catches for 983 yards and 9 TDs at age 37, but he was 500 receptions behind Rice and anyway made himself radioactive to teams, ending his career while he could still play.

The two active guys closest on the receptions list, Julio Jones and DeAndre Hopkins, are both looking fairly washed up already. The only WR within 400 receptions of Rice's 1549 is Fitzgerald. The only ones within 45 TDs of his 197 are Moss with 156 and Owens with 153. Finally, Rice has a margin of *5400 yards* on the alltime yardage list. Julio Jones, the only active player in the top 35, is almost 10,000 yards behind Rice.


I doubt it  
mattlawson : 1/31/2023 4:07 pm : link
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It is a passing league  
US1 Giants : 1/31/2023 4:14 pm : link
and getting more so every season. The record is bound to be broken eventually.

It is amazing what Rice did under the old rules.
you guys might be right  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 1/31/2023 4:15 pm : link
Rice's longevity really was insane. But Gretzky's goals record was held in the same regard and Ovi seems to have a better than 50% chance at getting there. Judge actually had an outside shot at Bonds' HR record late into last year.

It will take the special person in a special situation, but never say never with a record. Unless it's Cy Young's Wins total or something that the modern era simply eliminates from being possible.
Probably not  
UConn4523 : 1/31/2023 4:18 pm : link
these guys make too much money right now so careers won’t be as long. And for those guys that do hang on for a paycheck they will lose playing time to the new 22 year old that can eat these new rules alive.
RE: you guys might be right  
Greg from LI : 1/31/2023 4:20 pm : link
In comment 16021071 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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Rice's longevity really was insane. But Gretzky's goals record was held in the same regard and Ovi seems to have a better than 50% chance at getting there.


And Gordie Howe's records were considered the same way before Gretzky. That's why I didn't flatly say "no".

But I do seriously doubt it.
RE: RE: Jefferson  
allstarjim : 1/31/2023 4:30 pm : link
In comment 16021030 JoeyBigBlue said:
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In comment 16021027 allstarjim said:


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He'll only be 24 this upcoming season, needs to average 1,506 yards to edge him for another 12 years. He's coming off an 1800 yard season. To get past the TD mark, he'll need to average slightly more than 14.3 TDs over that span. Need to enjoy both health and longevity, but it's possible. The TD mark is probably tougher, but both are really tough benchmarks.




Only needs to average 1500 yards for the next 12 seasons? LOL. Good luck with that.


He'd need a lot of seasons well north of that number to factor in some statistical regression in the later part of his career.

Absolutely, it's a very low probability. If I could pick one player playing today that has at least a 1% chance (probably less), it's Jefferson. Adams, Hill, and Diggs are all too old. Diggs would have to play to 40 years old and average 1,173.58 yards to catch him. Even if he plays until 37, he'd need to average 1,564 yards, and that's a mark he's never surpassed. He'd need to average 13.55 TDs to 37, or 10.17 if he plays until 40. Diggs has one season in which he's surpassed 10 TD receptions. Hill is about the same age as Diggs. His game probably won't age well into his mid 30's.

Davante is too old. He's already 30 and not even close to halfway there on either of those numbers.
Highly doubt it  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/31/2023 4:41 pm : link
Just look at his first 15 years. Same organization that was the model franchise. From one HOF QB to the next HOF QB. Three time SB HC to a two time one. Then goes to Oakland who was one of the better teams in the league and they also go to the SB.

So even if someone did manage to play the amount of years or even less with higher production hard to see another team emulating all the pieces needed to give someone a chance and it today's environment I don't see that happening.

Matching that longevity is going to be so hard  
Mad Mike : 1/31/2023 4:42 pm : link
There were only 3 guys over 30 who had 1,000 yards receiving this year, and 2 were 30 (and Kelce, who's 33). The past two years Kelce was the only one. The year before that it was him, Edelman, and Julio Jones. The year before that, just Antonio Brown. The 17th game makes a difference, but to be so productive past 30, past 35... is just so difficult.
Highly doubt it  
ZogZerg : 1/31/2023 4:45 pm : link
With the kind of money WRs make, they would be crazy to play until their late 30s.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/31/2023 6:45 pm : link
Doubt it. Rice was putting up 1,000 + yard seasons when the dude was 40. Just UFB.

He's the WR GOAT.
Rice...  
bw in dc : 1/31/2023 7:19 pm : link
was addicted - in a good way - to playing football and trying to win trophies. Football was his absolute passion. So, unless someone has that focus and dedication for 20+ years, it's going to be very difficult to break that mark.

And I didn't even mention the physical talent it would take...

Someone raised another very interesting point above. The money is today's game is so much greater than Rice's era. And it's going to continue to grow. So why keep taking hit after hit after hit when you can cash out early and be set for life many times over...
bw.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/31/2023 7:22 pm : link
Look @ Megatron. He retired when he was what, 29 or 30?
No.  
FStubbs : 1/31/2023 7:43 pm : link
Next question.

Even with today's inflated stats (and to be fair, Rice's stats were inflated a bit because of the WCO) it would be difficult to keep up the pace season after season.
Only 1 player in NFL history  
JoeyBigBlue : 1/31/2023 8:27 pm : link
Has more than 10 1000 receiving yards seasons and that’s Jerry Rice. The talk of this player needs 12 consecutive 1100 yard seasons is nonsense. It’s something that is extremely hard to do, with violent nature of today’s NFL.
I can't help it ...lol  
Gforce11 : 1/31/2023 8:55 pm : link
Yes, by Kadarius Toney. Legend has it, KT is going to do while in IR.
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