This hiring hinges on whether Payton can revive Russ' career. And man...Denver is bereft of draft picks until my daughter is probably walking down the aisle in 2040 or so.
If Payton came back and Denver refused to offer compensation to NO? I know he is under contract with NO but they have a head coach, could he have forced them to let him go?
If Payton came back and Denver refused to offer compensation to NO? I know he is under contract with NO but they have a head coach, could he have forced them to let him go?
That isn’t a scenario that’s possible. Payton “retired” leaving the deal he signed unfinished. Unless NO negotiated some other way to let him go, this is it.
but firing a HC after only 1 season is just absurd. That is alot of turnover in a very short period and players need to adjust to that.
is Sean Payton going to have a bigger impact on the club then 2 top 30 draft picks? I'm not certain that works when you have a veteran QB.
How did Daboll change the Giants in a few months? Payton has better players than the Giants do. I doubt Russell Wilson woke up one morning and became Mark Sanchez.
The Broncos will not win that division, lots of good teams, but they will be quite competitive.
A top of the line coach absolutely is worth two 1st round picks.
both turned their respective franchises around. You can’t waste your time on a HC that clearly is in over their head and that was Hackett. My guess is what we saw as fans wasnt as bad as how it looked internally as well.
It’s not a dumpster fire. It was a poorly coached team.
Yes. Will these Wilson "haters" retract their dumb comments of Wilson turns it around? Doubtful.
You are a voice of sanity in a sea of terrible hot takes.
And if he doesn’t are YOU going to retract? Of course you won’t. Wilson was noting short of absolute trash this past season. It wasn’t all because of the coaching.
It’s funny, you’ve constantly had the stance that franchise QBs can overcome poor coaching, poor talent, etc. They make everyone around them better. Your act is beyond tired. Just a horrific poster.
Whether or not you think Payton is the man for the job
but firing a HC after only 1 season is just absurd. That is alot of turnover in a very short period and players need to adjust to that.
is Sean Payton going to have a bigger impact on the club then 2 top 30 draft picks? I'm not certain that works when you have a veteran QB.
How did Daboll change the Giants in a few months? Payton has better players than the Giants do. I doubt Russell Wilson woke up one morning and became Mark Sanchez.
The Broncos will not win that division, lots of good teams, but they will be quite competitive.
A top of the line coach absolutely is worth two 1st round picks.
True but Payton wasn't even their first choice, and they fired Hackett well before they knew who was going to be available. They just kind of got lucky on the selection.
It’s not a dumpster fire. It was a poorly coached team.
Yes. Will these Wilson "haters" retract their dumb comments of Wilson turns it around? Doubtful.
You are a voice of sanity in a sea of terrible hot takes.
LOL! Your lack of self-awareness is stunning.
Jones has certainly "turned it around" this year, yet you have not retracted your "dumb" comments. (I'd say your comments have been completely moronic, but I digress)
As someone who thinks Wilson is done, I'll gladly admit it next year if (big if) I'm proven wrong. Something you've been unable to do time and time - and time - again...
It’s not a dumpster fire. It was a poorly coached team.
Yes. Will these Wilson "haters" retract their dumb comments of Wilson turns it around? Doubtful.
You are a voice of sanity in a sea of terrible hot takes.
LOL! Your lack of self-awareness is stunning.
Jones has certainly "turned it around" this year, yet you have not retracted your "dumb" comments. (I'd say your comments have been completely moronic, but I digress)
As someone who thinks Wilson is done, I'll gladly admit it next year if (big if) I'm proven wrong. Something you've been unable to do time and time - and time - again...
If Wilson doesn't perform under one of the top offensive minds in Payton its probably safe to say he's cooked. But somehow I think he looks entirely different under an elite offensive guy like Payton. I dont think ball was missing a lot of zip this year nor did he look he couldn't move well enough in the pocket. He had Brees plying well way past his prime. I think he does the same for Russ.
Wonder if Ryan's agent was floating that to Rap to get McNair to finally pull the trigger. In other words, a bluff.
Remember, Ryan's name was brought up early last week as the likely coach of the Texans.
It’s not a dumpster fire. It was a poorly coached team.
maybe we get it back from the Saints for Shockey?
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he would go to that dumpster fire....
It’s not a dumpster fire. It was a poorly coached team.
Yes. Will these Wilson "haters" retract their dumb comments of Wilson turns it around? Doubtful.
You are a voice of sanity in a sea of terrible hot takes.
Pretty quick listen. Cowhers seems pretty tight with SP.
Payton & Denver - ( New Window )
Pretty quick listen. Cowhers seems pretty tight with SP. Payton & Denver - ( New Window )
Payton was on his show yesterday going over the conf championship games. It was good. Payton's takes are interesting.
That isn’t a scenario that’s possible. Payton “retired” leaving the deal he signed unfinished. Unless NO negotiated some other way to let him go, this is it.
is Sean Payton going to have a bigger impact on the club then 2 top 30 draft picks? I'm not certain that works when you have a veteran QB.
is Sean Payton going to have a bigger impact on the club then 2 top 30 draft picks? I'm not certain that works when you have a veteran QB.
How did Daboll change the Giants in a few months? Payton has better players than the Giants do. I doubt Russell Wilson woke up one morning and became Mark Sanchez.
The Broncos will not win that division, lots of good teams, but they will be quite competitive.
A top of the line coach absolutely is worth two 1st round picks.
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he would go to that dumpster fire....
It’s not a dumpster fire. It was a poorly coached team.
Yes. Will these Wilson "haters" retract their dumb comments of Wilson turns it around? Doubtful.
You are a voice of sanity in a sea of terrible hot takes.
And if he doesn’t are YOU going to retract? Of course you won’t. Wilson was noting short of absolute trash this past season. It wasn’t all because of the coaching.
It’s funny, you’ve constantly had the stance that franchise QBs can overcome poor coaching, poor talent, etc. They make everyone around them better. Your act is beyond tired. Just a horrific poster.
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but firing a HC after only 1 season is just absurd. That is alot of turnover in a very short period and players need to adjust to that.
is Sean Payton going to have a bigger impact on the club then 2 top 30 draft picks? I'm not certain that works when you have a veteran QB.
How did Daboll change the Giants in a few months? Payton has better players than the Giants do. I doubt Russell Wilson woke up one morning and became Mark Sanchez.
The Broncos will not win that division, lots of good teams, but they will be quite competitive.
A top of the line coach absolutely is worth two 1st round picks.
True but Payton wasn't even their first choice, and they fired Hackett well before they knew who was going to be available. They just kind of got lucky on the selection.
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he would go to that dumpster fire....
It’s not a dumpster fire. It was a poorly coached team.
Yes. Will these Wilson "haters" retract their dumb comments of Wilson turns it around? Doubtful.
You are a voice of sanity in a sea of terrible hot takes.
LOL! Your lack of self-awareness is stunning.
Jones has certainly "turned it around" this year, yet you have not retracted your "dumb" comments. (I'd say your comments have been completely moronic, but I digress)
As someone who thinks Wilson is done, I'll gladly admit it next year if (big if) I'm proven wrong. Something you've been unable to do time and time - and time - again...
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In comment 16021080 Chef said:
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he would go to that dumpster fire....
It’s not a dumpster fire. It was a poorly coached team.
Yes. Will these Wilson "haters" retract their dumb comments of Wilson turns it around? Doubtful.
You are a voice of sanity in a sea of terrible hot takes.
LOL! Your lack of self-awareness is stunning.
Jones has certainly "turned it around" this year, yet you have not retracted your "dumb" comments. (I'd say your comments have been completely moronic, but I digress)
As someone who thinks Wilson is done, I'll gladly admit it next year if (big if) I'm proven wrong. Something you've been unable to do time and time - and time - again...
If Wilson doesn't perform under one of the top offensive minds in Payton its probably safe to say he's cooked. But somehow I think he looks entirely different under an elite offensive guy like Payton. I dont think ball was missing a lot of zip this year nor did he look he couldn't move well enough in the pocket. He had Brees plying well way past his prime. I think he does the same for Russ.