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AG5686 : 1/31/2023 6:49 pm
LEBRON and AD both supposedly playing tonight
Should be a good game
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RE: RE: RE: If you can make a deal on the margins...  
nygiants16 : 2/2/2023 9:44 am : link
In comment 16022554 TyreeHelmet said:
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ok, but they definitely should not be trading draft capital for someone who isn't moving the needle.

The only move that truly matters is one for a star and you can't do anything to jeopardize that.



I get what your saying, but lets say they trade Obi and Rose with 1 unprotected and 2 protected picks for OG..

How does that stop them for trading for a star?



It doesn't stop them, but it certainly depletes some of their assets. Masai isn't going to accept the worst of the protected picks from the Knicks for OG...

It also depends what the true value of Barrett is when the poison pill runs out.

But who is a likely star that will become available in the next year that's a fit for the Knicks? Things always change but its hard to identify that player right now.


Booker, i have heard through the grapevine that the new owner may want to start over with that team, james jones is pushing back on that and wants to make 1 more run at it but the new ownwer is supposedly going to be hands on..

I would really like to see how a starting lineup of Mitch, Randle, OG, Grimes, Brunson plays together with Iq and Rj off the bench...
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Carl in CT : 2/2/2023 10:16 am : link
Also as I’ve proven to some here , my connections are on the agency side. So I don’t get a lot of non CAA stuff or mgt stuff (not connected enough). I would think AJR has some connections on mgt side (not agency) he/she hasn’t said but our total disagreement on DJ (agency client) who he hates with a passion makes me think that. He has been silent so I would think he hasn’t heard anything that’s not already in papers or on internet.
Booker or SGA  
Carl in CT : 2/2/2023 10:18 am : link
Are the only two that come to mind that I could get over the Mitchell mess over. We can only dream a backcourt with one of them and Brunson.
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DanMetroMan : 2/2/2023 10:31 am : link
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The Raptors are looking for young players in trade talks centered around OG Anunoby and Fred VanVleet, per ESPN’s Brian Windhorst

“Guys in the league to put around the core that they have around Rookie of the Year Scottie Barnes.”
No one rumored to be available  
larryflower37 : 2/2/2023 10:43 am : link
Makes this Knicks team much better.
OG is a role player and I can only see the frustration Knicks fans will have watching him offensively.
If you replace RJ with OG, it will be nothing but the Randle and Brunson show. OG is not a shot creator and will collect dust on the wing as Brunson and Randle play with their food.
The bench will once again be more fun to watch with Quickley, RJ and crew playing ball movement up tempo basketball.
NY16 you put Grimes, OG, Robinson, Randle and Brunson on the court together and you are playing Thibs slow archaic ISO ball a losing formula
RE: No one rumored to be available  
nygiants16 : 2/2/2023 10:55 am : link
In comment 16022641 larryflower37 said:
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Makes this Knicks team much better.
OG is a role player and I can only see the frustration Knicks fans will have watching him offensively.
If you replace RJ with OG, it will be nothing but the Randle and Brunson show. OG is not a shot creator and will collect dust on the wing as Brunson and Randle play with their food.
The bench will once again be more fun to watch with Quickley, RJ and crew playing ball movement up tempo basketball.
NY16 you put Grimes, OG, Robinson, Randle and Brunson on the court together and you are playing Thibs slow archaic ISO ball a losing formula


You realize every single team plays iso right? the reason it looks better with other teams, is because they have superstars doing it..

and again Rj cant be the 3rd guy, it doesnt fit, him off the bench allows him to at least play his game..

the 3rd player on any good team is not a scorer, they are a shooter, defender, rebounder, move the ball type of player, not a pound the ball wing who has no midrange and an iffy 3 point shot..

You keep wanting to take Grimes out of the starting lineup, the player that needs to be taken out is Rj because he doesnt fit, not because he is a bad plauer bit because he doesnt fit at as a 3rd option..

OG is a better fit..
The ball doesnt move better with the bench unit  
nygiants16 : 2/2/2023 10:56 am : link
its the same offense, rj and Quick have the ball and they create..The reason you like it is because its Rj and Quick and not randle..

They are running the same offense..
RE: RE: No one rumored to be available  
Stu11 : 2/2/2023 11:21 am : link
In comment 16022659 nygiants16 said:
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You realize every single team plays iso right? the reason it looks better with other teams, is because they have superstars doing it..

this x1000
all the old timers in here yearn to see DeBuschere zipping the ball to Bradley to Clyde and everybody touching the ball every possesion...
It ain't gonna happen. watching the Celtic game last week everyone said the Knicks stopped moving the ball down the stretch and everything became stagnant. The Celtics did the same thing! the last 6 or 7 possessions were completely Tatum isos. The difference is they had Jason Tatum. Mitchell could have been that type of impact player for us, especially combined with Brunson but alas.. Rose chickened out.
To the guys that want this front office to make a move...  
Kmed6000 : 2/2/2023 11:24 am : link
Lets say Toronto comes back and says...we want Obi, McBride, 2 unprotected 1sts and Dallas' 1st. We have to do that?
I don't believe  
Jan in DC : 2/2/2023 11:25 am : link
that other teams are running ISO as much as we do. Even if they do, we're in the bottom of the league in assisted buckets, so we're not spraying the ball out from these ISO opportunities.

Even if you don't have a problem with this stagnant ass offense, we can acknowledge that the ball is way too sticky with the players running the ISOs right?
RE: To the guys that want this front office to make a move...  
nygiants16 : 2/2/2023 11:26 am : link
In comment 16022719 Kmed6000 said:
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Lets say Toronto comes back and says...we want Obi, McBride, 2 unprotected 1sts and Dallas' 1st. We have to do that?


When are the unprotected picks?
RE: I don't believe  
nygiants16 : 2/2/2023 11:29 am : link
In comment 16022724 Jan in DC said:
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that other teams are running ISO as much as we do. Even if they do, we're in the bottom of the league in assisted buckets, so we're not spraying the ball out from these ISO opportunities.

Even if you don't have a problem with this stagnant ass offense, we can acknowledge that the ball is way too sticky with the players running the ISOs right?


Yes, the problem isnt iso, the problem is who is running iso..

also the assist numbers would probably look better if there were better shooters on this team..

The low assists are a combination of sticky fingers at times and bad shooting from the perimiter..

The difference between a great team, a good team and an awful team in the NBA is not the offense they run, its the 2 top players and who can close out a game..

Knicks have 2 very good top players, ita why they are a good team, they are not a great team because they cant close out games..they will here and there but the great teams close out a majority of their games
Lets say  
Kmed6000 : 2/2/2023 11:30 am : link
2023 and 2025. You'd do that huh?
Perfect example was the recent Milwaukee vs Knicks game  
nygiants16 : 2/2/2023 11:34 am : link
Down the stretch both teams were running the exact same play, Holiday hit clutch 3s and the Knicks did not, Milwaukee made the right read, the Knicks did not..

People complained Knicks ran to much iso, it was the exact same offense but because the Knicks struggled people blamed iso for the issue
RE: Lets say  
nygiants16 : 2/2/2023 11:35 am : link
In comment 16022733 Kmed6000 said:
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2023 and 2025. You'd do that huh?


no id do 2026 instead of 25..

Because in the offseason after the draft you can then trade 24, 25 top 5 protected Milwaukee pick, 28 and 30 and you still have a couple of the ither protected picks sprinkled in
Iso  
TyreeHelmet : 2/2/2023 11:42 am : link
The iso talk is ridiculous. Watch around the league- do you think the best teams are running some princeton based motion offense? Come on.

They run screen and roll, iso with their best scorers and have good shooting. Thats a good NBA offense.

I hope I'm wrong but I don't see any scenario where the new Phoenix owner comes in and deals Devin Booker? Why would he do that? Don't see any way OKC deals SGA either...

Is there any way with his contract to deal RJ to Toronto?
We go from ISO to the Princeton offense  
larryflower37 : 2/2/2023 12:07 pm : link
That a big leap.
Not every team runs ISO like we do and they all don't run the same offense. It's like saying everyone's runs shotgun.
Your sets and movements dictate ball movement.
This is not a free flow cutting offense it's a iso, penetrate and distribute offense which is poorly run. On top of it they do not push the ball up court so there tempo is constantly in the bottom of the league.
The 2nd unit might run the same offense but it is predicated on tempo and getting the ball up quickly that's why it is a better looking offense.(because of Quickley and young guys)
They are moving to the open look and getting quicker shots.
It's more like the offense Thibs ran in Chicago with Rose.
Push, penetration and quick shots.

I am surprised that people can defend this offense it's horrible.
RE: To the guys that want this front office to make a move...  
Strahan91 : 2/2/2023 12:09 pm : link
In comment 16022719 Kmed6000 said:
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Lets say Toronto comes back and says...we want Obi, McBride, 2 unprotected 1sts and Dallas' 1st. We have to do that?

No way. 2 unprotected picks would be malpractice. At most one unprotected, 1 lightly protected (preferably this year) and another team's first we own.
RE: RE: To the guys that want this front office to make a move...  
Kmed6000 : 2/2/2023 12:17 pm : link
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Lets say Toronto comes back and says...we want Obi, McBride, 2 unprotected 1sts and Dallas' 1st. We have to do that?


No way. 2 unprotected picks would be malpractice. At most one unprotected, 1 lightly protected (preferably this year) and another team's first we own.


This is my point. There is a limit for everyone. There are people urging this FO to make a deal. We can't force a team to accept what we are offering. At some point, you have to walk away and say it's too much.
RE: I don't understand why they don't move off Reddish.  
Anakim : 2/2/2023 12:37 pm : link
In comment 16022534 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Holding him and not playing him does nothing.


Supposedly Cam voiced his displeasure about not playing a few weeks ago and hasn't seen the court since.
"I am surprised that people can defend this offense it's horrible."  
Enzo : 2/2/2023 12:39 pm : link
given the fact they're currently ranked 6th in the league on offense, I'd say you're overstating things just a bit.

However, there are clearly some legit concerns about late game lineups and execution.
Not for nothing, but as flawed as this roster is (thanks Leon),  
Anakim : 2/2/2023 12:41 pm : link
Could anyone see this team going on a Hawks-type of run if they can Thibs and replace him with, say Quin Snyder?
RE:  
Jan in DC : 2/2/2023 12:47 pm : link
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given the fact they're currently ranked 6th in the league on offense, I'd say you're overstating things just a bit.

However, there are clearly some legit concerns about late game lineups and execution.


That ranking is inflated by the second chance points afforded to them by Mitch. We have a lot of inefficient scorers on this team and our offensive rebounding masks a lot of issues with the offensive system in general.
RE: Iso  
steve in ky : 2/2/2023 12:50 pm : link
In comment 16022746 TyreeHelmet said:
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I hope I'm wrong but I don't see any scenario where the new Phoenix owner comes in and deals Devin Booker? Why would he do that? Don't see any way OKC deals SGA either...



I doubt it either, the frustrating thing is the Knicks could have taken him instead of Knox, or for that matter D. Mitchell instead of Frank.

That’s why I hate to see them trade away assets for essentially role players when they need so much more than that. They are better off using the picks themselves and try to find their own star if they can’t trade for one, but don’t empty the arsenal on role players even if they are decent players,it’s simply not worth it in the long run. Either get those guys on the cheap, trade for a genuine star, or keep building from within and hope one of your picks turns into your own Mitchell
The knicks have no motion. They do the same dribble  
Knickstape : 2/2/2023 12:50 pm : link
Hand off at the top of the key over and over that’s it. Grimes and rj are constantly spaced on the 3pt line and don’t ever cut. They are designated to the corners. Schematically the offense is very poorly put together

It is not just iso at the end of games. It’s constant my turn your turn from those starting 5 throughout the game
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nygiants16 : 2/2/2023 12:55 pm : link
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given the fact they're currently ranked 6th in the league on offense, I'd say you're overstating things just a bit.

However, there are clearly some legit concerns about late game lineups and execution.



That ranking is inflated by the second chance points afforded to them by Mitch. We have a lot of inefficient scorers on this team and our offensive rebounding masks a lot of issues with the offensive system in general.


They have 1 ineffecient scorer..

Randle is at 46% an efg% of 53

Brunson is at 47% and an efg% of 51

Their 2 main scorers are effecient..

There isn't much wrong with how the Knicks run their offense.  
Kmed6000 : 2/2/2023 12:58 pm : link
The 2 biggest issues are:

-Randle in crunchtime moments
-lack of 3 pt shooters around Brunson and randle

The knicks need more knockdown shooters
RE: There isn't much wrong with how the Knicks run their offense.  
nygiants16 : 2/2/2023 1:05 pm : link
In comment 16022863 Kmed6000 said:
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The 2 biggest issues are:

-Randle in crunchtime moments
-lack of 3 pt shooters around Brunson and randle

The knicks need more knockdown shooters


This^ all of this^
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larryflower37 : 2/2/2023 1:13 pm : link
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given the fact they're currently ranked 6th in the league on offense, I'd say you're overstating things just a bit.

However, there are clearly some legit concerns about late game lineups and execution.



That ranking is inflated by the second chance points afforded to them by Mitch. We have a lot of inefficient scorers on this team and our offensive rebounding masks a lot of issues with the offensive system in general.



They have 1 ineffecient scorer..

Randle is at 46% an efg% of 53

Brunson is at 47% and an efg% of 51

Their 2 main scorers are effecient..

That's the point it's a 2 man offense that is predicated on Randall and Bronson creating and making tough shots.
That's why when they play a tough defense that you can take away one or two they're done.
It's hero ball at its finest and it's not sustainable and will get destroyed in the playoffs
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nygiants16 : 2/2/2023 1:15 pm : link
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given the fact they're currently ranked 6th in the league on offense, I'd say you're overstating things just a bit.

However, there are clearly some legit concerns about late game lineups and execution.



That ranking is inflated by the second chance points afforded to them by Mitch. We have a lot of inefficient scorers on this team and our offensive rebounding masks a lot of issues with the offensive system in general.



They have 1 ineffecient scorer..

Randle is at 46% an efg% of 53

Brunson is at 47% and an efg% of 51

Their 2 main scorers are effecient..



That's the point it's a 2 man offense that is predicated on Randall and Bronson creating and making tough shots.
That's why when they play a tough defense that you can take away one or two they're done.
It's hero ball at its finest and it's not sustainable and will get destroyed in the playoffs


Every team is a 2 man offense, and then 3 through 10 are complimentary pieces. You habe a scorer off the bench to mix in with your top 2 guys and then everyone aorund them is complimentsry..

Its why Rj doesnt fit with this team..

You look at any great team in this league, their 3rd best player is a shooter, great defender, rebounder and ball mover..

What seperates teams is their top 2 guys..
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larryflower37 : 2/2/2023 1:19 pm : link
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given the fact they're currently ranked 6th in the league on offense, I'd say you're overstating things just a bit.

However, there are clearly some legit concerns about late game lineups and execution.



That ranking is inflated by the second chance points afforded to them by Mitch. We have a lot of inefficient scorers on this team and our offensive rebounding masks a lot of issues with the offensive system in general.



They have 1 ineffecient scorer..

Randle is at 46% an efg% of 53

Brunson is at 47% and an efg% of 51

Their 2 main scorers are effecient..



That's the point it's a 2 man offense that is predicated on Randall and Bronson creating and making tough shots.
That's why when they play a tough defense that you can take away one or two they're done.
It's hero ball at its finest and it's not sustainable and will get destroyed in the playoffs



Every team is a 2 man offense, and then 3 through 10 are complimentary pieces. You habe a scorer off the bench to mix in with your top 2 guys and then everyone aorund them is complimentsry..

Its why Rj doesnt fit with this team..

You look at any great team in this league, their 3rd best player is a shooter, great defender, rebounder and ball mover..

What seperates teams is their top 2 guys..

You're not getting this it's not about you talent it's about utilization and in the moments being able to use the rest of the players around you they don't.
Great players make average players better around them by distributing and moving the ball it's do or die with these two guys.
Ok so if you replace  
nygiants16 : 2/2/2023 1:21 pm : link
Randle with Tatum and Brunson with Ja Morant and they played the exact same offense, they wouldnt be better?
You act Like Randle and Brunson  
nygiants16 : 2/2/2023 1:23 pm : link
take all the shots and never move the ball..

I have seen countless times where other players get wide open looks of Brunsor Randle iso and they miss the shot.


and as much as people do not want to admit it  
nygiants16 : 2/2/2023 1:25 pm : link
you replace Rj with OG, the Knicks are a better team because of the fit..
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Knickstape : 2/2/2023 1:28 pm : link
We are 28th in assists.



Players are stagnant throughout the whole game. This offense is my turn your turn my turn your turn.

Tell me how often 4 people touch the ball on a possession on this team.
I mean last year how many times did we see Evan and Randle 2 man game as everyone else stood in the corner . Randle dribble it up.

Don’t get me wrong. The Knicks pieces do not mesh at all. Rj Brunson Randle all want to live in the paint. And grimes is not the knock down spacer some believed him to be. But if you think this is an offense that shares the ball and is “like most other teams” you are out of your mind
RE: Ok so if you replace  
larryflower37 : 2/2/2023 1:30 pm : link
In comment 16022880 nygiants16 said:
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Randle with Tatum and Brunson with Ja Morant and they played the exact same offense, they wouldnt be better?

Of course it would be better and you are talking about 2 top 3 players in the league that are unselfish ball players that would make the extra pass.
Would this be a good offense for them absolutely not.
Tatum strive in a high assist, wide spacing, move the ball offense currently.
Ja is in a fast pace, heavy drive and kick offense built around what he does well.
Both of these players put their teams in position to be successful to open up space for them to operate.
Which Randle has never done and I have hope for Brunson because right now he is trying to carry the team every night and do too much to validate his contract and put the weight of the city on his shoulders.
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nygiants16 : 2/2/2023 1:33 pm : link
In comment 16022889 Knickstape said:
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We are 28th in assists.



Players are stagnant throughout the whole game. This offense is my turn your turn my turn your turn.

Tell me how often 4 people touch the ball on a possession on this team.
I mean last year how many times did we see Evan and Randle 2 man game as everyone else stood in the corner . Randle dribble it up.

Don’t get me wrong. The Knicks pieces do not mesh at all. Rj Brunson Randle all want to live in the paint. And grimes is not the knock down spacer some believed him to be. But if you think this is an offense that shares the ball and is “like most other teams” you are out of your mind


They are 28th in assists for 2 reasons, they do not habe knock down shooters and there are times Randle and Brunson shoot to much..

You put a knock down shooter in Rj's spot and guarantee the assists go up..

You should watch other teams offense and see how they get those open 3s and how the ball movement starts, 9 times out of 10 its off their star being doubled or creating and kickong out..

and the DHO that zrandle ran with fournier is a staple in most NBA offenses, you see it all the time run with Golden State
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nygiants16 : 2/2/2023 1:36 pm : link
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Randle with Tatum and Brunson with Ja Morant and they played the exact same offense, they wouldnt be better?


Of course it would be better and you are talking about 2 top 3 players in the league that are unselfish ball players that would make the extra pass.
Would this be a good offense for them absolutely not.
Tatum strive in a high assist, wide spacing, move the ball offense currently.
Ja is in a fast pace, heavy drive and kick offense built around what he does well.
Both of these players put their teams in position to be successful to open up space for them to operate.
Which Randle has never done and I have hope for Brunson because right now he is trying to carry the team every night and do too much to validate his contract and put the weight of the city on his shoulders.


wait you think Tatum scores off assists? seriously? Tatum is one of the more iso heavy players in the league the Celtics run iso for much of the game..

Ja Morant would thrive in Thibs offense just like derrick Rose did..

Randle and Tatum have the same assist numbers..Tatum blows him away scoring wise, its not even a debate but saying Tatum thrives in a ball movement offrnse is laughably wrong
RE: You act Like Randle and Brunson  
larryflower37 : 2/2/2023 1:36 pm : link
In comment 16022884 nygiants16 said:
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take all the shots and never move the ball..

I have seen countless times where other players get wide open looks of Brunsor Randle iso and they miss the shot.


They take 50% of the shots currently and I bet if you looked at what they take by possession that they are on the floor it probably pushes to 70%.
When they pass it out of necessity not to move the ball or get players involved.
BTW I hate adding Brunson to this because I think this offense forces him to play this way instead having other options .
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larryflower37 : 2/2/2023 1:38 pm : link
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Randle with Tatum and Brunson with Ja Morant and they played the exact same offense, they wouldnt be better?


Of course it would be better and you are talking about 2 top 3 players in the league that are unselfish ball players that would make the extra pass.
Would this be a good offense for them absolutely not.
Tatum strive in a high assist, wide spacing, move the ball offense currently.
Ja is in a fast pace, heavy drive and kick offense built around what he does well.
Both of these players put their teams in position to be successful to open up space for them to operate.
Which Randle has never done and I have hope for Brunson because right now he is trying to carry the team every night and do too much to validate his contract and put the weight of the city on his shoulders.



wait you think Tatum scores off assists? seriously? Tatum is one of the more iso heavy players in the league the Celtics run iso for much of the game..

Ja Morant would thrive in Thibs offense just like derrick Rose did..

Randle and Tatum have the same assist numbers..Tatum blows him away scoring wise, its not even a debate but saying Tatum thrives in a ball movement offrnse is laughably wrong

The offense Tatum is in is a high assist move the ball offense where everyone on the floor is involved it gives him the spacing to operate and Tatum is not using 20 seconds of the shot clock to score.
Okay NY16 Thib's offense is great.  
larryflower37 : 2/2/2023 1:42 pm : link
One for the ages, he is a genius.
The offense sucks and when teams tighten up on defense in the 4th in close games Randle folds like a cheap card table.
Just like when playoff defense starts.
RE: Okay NY16 Thib's offense is great.  
nygiants16 : 2/2/2023 1:47 pm : link
In comment 16022904 larryflower37 said:
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One for the ages, he is a genius.
The offense sucks and when teams tighten up on defense in the 4th in close games Randle folds like a cheap card table.
Just like when playoff defense starts.


Yup because thats what i said..

Just admit you hate Randle and no matter ehat he does, you are going to shit on it..

If it was Rj playing Randles role you wouldnt be bitching..

Thibs offense isnt perfect but if you had 2 star players the offense would be fine..
and Boston has great shooters all over the court  
nygiants16 : 2/2/2023 1:48 pm : link
at every position they have shooters, thats why their assists are higher..Doesnt change the fact that Tatum is an iso heavy player
I mean I’d still deal Randle if they  
Knickstape : 2/2/2023 1:50 pm : link
Got a solid offer. I don’t think you win a chip in the nba with Randle

But on my list of people that should go. It’s thibs number 1. Front office number 2
Randle choking in the 4th quarter  
nygiants16 : 2/2/2023 1:53 pm : link
is not a thibs issue, its a randle issue..he folds, thats why they need a star..if Randle didnt fold in the 4th quarter, this team wouldnt need a star player
RE: RE: Okay NY16 Thib's offense is great.  
larryflower37 : 2/2/2023 2:03 pm : link
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One for the ages, he is a genius.
The offense sucks and when teams tighten up on defense in the 4th in close games Randle folds like a cheap card table.
Just like when playoff defense starts.



Yup because thats what i said..

Just admit you hate Randle and no matter ehat he does, you are going to shit on it..

If it was Rj playing Randles role you wouldnt be bitching..

Thibs offense isnt perfect but if you had 2 star players the offense would be fine..

No hate Thibs and I like Randle if he was used properly and had a coach that didn't let Randle run the team same with Brunson he is being miss used.
RJ get too much of a leash and is not being developed and when he is finally held accountable he has no clue what to do.
It's a coaching issue 100%
I own a F'ing Randle jersey I would love for him to be a great all around player but without accountability. He does what he did on the last play of the game vs.the Lakers.
Whatever the fuck he wants to do.
RE: RE: RE: Okay NY16 Thib's offense is great.  
nygiants16 : 2/2/2023 2:07 pm : link
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One for the ages, he is a genius.
The offense sucks and when teams tighten up on defense in the 4th in close games Randle folds like a cheap card table.
Just like when playoff defense starts.



Yup because thats what i said..

Just admit you hate Randle and no matter ehat he does, you are going to shit on it..

If it was Rj playing Randles role you wouldnt be bitching..

Thibs offense isnt perfect but if you had 2 star players the offense would be fine..


No hate Thibs and I like Randle if he was used properly and had a coach that didn't let Randle run the team same with Brunson he is being miss used.
RJ get too much of a leash and is not being developed and when he is finally held accountable he has no clue what to do.
It's a coaching issue 100%
I own a F'ing Randle jersey I would love for him to be a great all around player but without accountability. He does what he did on the last play of the game vs.the Lakers.
Whatever the fuck he wants to do.


Fair enough
looking forward to the heat  
djm : 2/2/2023 3:56 pm : link
playing their A game tonight. Because why wouldn't they. Word is Alonzo Mourning is coming out of retirement to play this one game then he will go back to losing fights with smaller people wallowing in obscurity.



I wonder if Kristaps Porzingis can be had in a trade  
Kmed6000 : 2/2/2023 4:12 pm : link
and if so, what his cost would be. He has a player option for next season so it could be as a rental.
Kmed  
Carl in CT : 2/2/2023 6:49 pm : link
RJB? I’d do in a second.
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