given the fact they're currently ranked 6th in the league on offense, I'd say you're overstating things just a bit.
However, there are clearly some legit concerns about late game lineups and execution.
That ranking is inflated by the second chance points afforded to them by Mitch. We have a lot of inefficient scorers on this team and our offensive rebounding masks a lot of issues with the offensive system in general.
They have 1 ineffecient scorer..
Randle is at 46% an efg% of 53
Brunson is at 47% and an efg% of 51
Their 2 main scorers are effecient..
There isn't much wrong with how the Knicks run their offense.
given the fact they're currently ranked 6th in the league on offense, I'd say you're overstating things just a bit.
However, there are clearly some legit concerns about late game lineups and execution.
That ranking is inflated by the second chance points afforded to them by Mitch. We have a lot of inefficient scorers on this team and our offensive rebounding masks a lot of issues with the offensive system in general.
They have 1 ineffecient scorer..
Randle is at 46% an efg% of 53
Brunson is at 47% and an efg% of 51
Their 2 main scorers are effecient..
That's the point it's a 2 man offense that is predicated on Randall and Bronson creating and making tough shots.
That's why when they play a tough defense that you can take away one or two they're done.
It's hero ball at its finest and it's not sustainable and will get destroyed in the playoffs
given the fact they're currently ranked 6th in the league on offense, I'd say you're overstating things just a bit.
However, there are clearly some legit concerns about late game lineups and execution.
That ranking is inflated by the second chance points afforded to them by Mitch. We have a lot of inefficient scorers on this team and our offensive rebounding masks a lot of issues with the offensive system in general.
They have 1 ineffecient scorer..
Randle is at 46% an efg% of 53
Brunson is at 47% and an efg% of 51
Their 2 main scorers are effecient..
That's the point it's a 2 man offense that is predicated on Randall and Bronson creating and making tough shots.
That's why when they play a tough defense that you can take away one or two they're done.
It's hero ball at its finest and it's not sustainable and will get destroyed in the playoffs
Every team is a 2 man offense, and then 3 through 10 are complimentary pieces. You habe a scorer off the bench to mix in with your top 2 guys and then everyone aorund them is complimentsry..
Its why Rj doesnt fit with this team..
You look at any great team in this league, their 3rd best player is a shooter, great defender, rebounder and ball mover..
given the fact they're currently ranked 6th in the league on offense, I'd say you're overstating things just a bit.
However, there are clearly some legit concerns about late game lineups and execution.
That ranking is inflated by the second chance points afforded to them by Mitch. We have a lot of inefficient scorers on this team and our offensive rebounding masks a lot of issues with the offensive system in general.
They have 1 ineffecient scorer..
Randle is at 46% an efg% of 53
Brunson is at 47% and an efg% of 51
Their 2 main scorers are effecient..
That's the point it's a 2 man offense that is predicated on Randall and Bronson creating and making tough shots.
That's why when they play a tough defense that you can take away one or two they're done.
It's hero ball at its finest and it's not sustainable and will get destroyed in the playoffs
Every team is a 2 man offense, and then 3 through 10 are complimentary pieces. You habe a scorer off the bench to mix in with your top 2 guys and then everyone aorund them is complimentsry..
Its why Rj doesnt fit with this team..
You look at any great team in this league, their 3rd best player is a shooter, great defender, rebounder and ball mover..
What seperates teams is their top 2 guys..
You're not getting this it's not about you talent it's about utilization and in the moments being able to use the rest of the players around you they don't.
Great players make average players better around them by distributing and moving the ball it's do or die with these two guys.
Players are stagnant throughout the whole game. This offense is my turn your turn my turn your turn.
Tell me how often 4 people touch the ball on a possession on this team.
I mean last year how many times did we see Evan and Randle 2 man game as everyone else stood in the corner . Randle dribble it up.
Don’t get me wrong. The Knicks pieces do not mesh at all. Rj Brunson Randle all want to live in the paint. And grimes is not the knock down spacer some believed him to be. But if you think this is an offense that shares the ball and is “like most other teams” you are out of your mind
Randle with Tatum and Brunson with Ja Morant and they played the exact same offense, they wouldnt be better?
Of course it would be better and you are talking about 2 top 3 players in the league that are unselfish ball players that would make the extra pass.
Would this be a good offense for them absolutely not.
Tatum strive in a high assist, wide spacing, move the ball offense currently.
Ja is in a fast pace, heavy drive and kick offense built around what he does well.
Both of these players put their teams in position to be successful to open up space for them to operate.
Which Randle has never done and I have hope for Brunson because right now he is trying to carry the team every night and do too much to validate his contract and put the weight of the city on his shoulders.
Players are stagnant throughout the whole game. This offense is my turn your turn my turn your turn.
Tell me how often 4 people touch the ball on a possession on this team.
I mean last year how many times did we see Evan and Randle 2 man game as everyone else stood in the corner . Randle dribble it up.
Don’t get me wrong. The Knicks pieces do not mesh at all. Rj Brunson Randle all want to live in the paint. And grimes is not the knock down spacer some believed him to be. But if you think this is an offense that shares the ball and is “like most other teams” you are out of your mind
They are 28th in assists for 2 reasons, they do not habe knock down shooters and there are times Randle and Brunson shoot to much..
You put a knock down shooter in Rj's spot and guarantee the assists go up..
You should watch other teams offense and see how they get those open 3s and how the ball movement starts, 9 times out of 10 its off their star being doubled or creating and kickong out..
and the DHO that zrandle ran with fournier is a staple in most NBA offenses, you see it all the time run with Golden State
Randle with Tatum and Brunson with Ja Morant and they played the exact same offense, they wouldnt be better?
Of course it would be better and you are talking about 2 top 3 players in the league that are unselfish ball players that would make the extra pass.
Would this be a good offense for them absolutely not.
Tatum strive in a high assist, wide spacing, move the ball offense currently.
Ja is in a fast pace, heavy drive and kick offense built around what he does well.
Both of these players put their teams in position to be successful to open up space for them to operate.
Which Randle has never done and I have hope for Brunson because right now he is trying to carry the team every night and do too much to validate his contract and put the weight of the city on his shoulders.
wait you think Tatum scores off assists? seriously? Tatum is one of the more iso heavy players in the league the Celtics run iso for much of the game..
Ja Morant would thrive in Thibs offense just like derrick Rose did..
Randle and Tatum have the same assist numbers..Tatum blows him away scoring wise, its not even a debate but saying Tatum thrives in a ball movement offrnse is laughably wrong
I have seen countless times where other players get wide open looks of Brunsor Randle iso and they miss the shot.
They take 50% of the shots currently and I bet if you looked at what they take by possession that they are on the floor it probably pushes to 70%.
When they pass it out of necessity not to move the ball or get players involved.
BTW I hate adding Brunson to this because I think this offense forces him to play this way instead having other options .
Randle with Tatum and Brunson with Ja Morant and they played the exact same offense, they wouldnt be better?
Of course it would be better and you are talking about 2 top 3 players in the league that are unselfish ball players that would make the extra pass.
Would this be a good offense for them absolutely not.
Tatum strive in a high assist, wide spacing, move the ball offense currently.
Ja is in a fast pace, heavy drive and kick offense built around what he does well.
Both of these players put their teams in position to be successful to open up space for them to operate.
Which Randle has never done and I have hope for Brunson because right now he is trying to carry the team every night and do too much to validate his contract and put the weight of the city on his shoulders.
wait you think Tatum scores off assists? seriously? Tatum is one of the more iso heavy players in the league the Celtics run iso for much of the game..
Ja Morant would thrive in Thibs offense just like derrick Rose did..
Randle and Tatum have the same assist numbers..Tatum blows him away scoring wise, its not even a debate but saying Tatum thrives in a ball movement offrnse is laughably wrong
The offense Tatum is in is a high assist move the ball offense where everyone on the floor is involved it gives him the spacing to operate and Tatum is not using 20 seconds of the shot clock to score.
One for the ages, he is a genius.
The offense sucks and when teams tighten up on defense in the 4th in close games Randle folds like a cheap card table.
Just like when playoff defense starts.
One for the ages, he is a genius.
The offense sucks and when teams tighten up on defense in the 4th in close games Randle folds like a cheap card table.
Just like when playoff defense starts.
Yup because thats what i said..
Just admit you hate Randle and no matter ehat he does, you are going to shit on it..
If it was Rj playing Randles role you wouldnt be bitching..
Thibs offense isnt perfect but if you had 2 star players the offense would be fine..
is not a thibs issue, its a randle issue..he folds, thats why they need a star..if Randle didnt fold in the 4th quarter, this team wouldnt need a star player
One for the ages, he is a genius.
The offense sucks and when teams tighten up on defense in the 4th in close games Randle folds like a cheap card table.
Just like when playoff defense starts.
Yup because thats what i said..
Just admit you hate Randle and no matter ehat he does, you are going to shit on it..
If it was Rj playing Randles role you wouldnt be bitching..
Thibs offense isnt perfect but if you had 2 star players the offense would be fine..
No hate Thibs and I like Randle if he was used properly and had a coach that didn't let Randle run the team same with Brunson he is being miss used.
RJ get too much of a leash and is not being developed and when he is finally held accountable he has no clue what to do.
It's a coaching issue 100%
I own a F'ing Randle jersey I would love for him to be a great all around player but without accountability. He does what he did on the last play of the game vs.the Lakers.
Whatever the fuck he wants to do.
One for the ages, he is a genius.
The offense sucks and when teams tighten up on defense in the 4th in close games Randle folds like a cheap card table.
Just like when playoff defense starts.
Yup because thats what i said..
Just admit you hate Randle and no matter ehat he does, you are going to shit on it..
If it was Rj playing Randles role you wouldnt be bitching..
Thibs offense isnt perfect but if you had 2 star players the offense would be fine..
No hate Thibs and I like Randle if he was used properly and had a coach that didn't let Randle run the team same with Brunson he is being miss used.
RJ get too much of a leash and is not being developed and when he is finally held accountable he has no clue what to do.
It's a coaching issue 100%
I own a F'ing Randle jersey I would love for him to be a great all around player but without accountability. He does what he did on the last play of the game vs.the Lakers.
Whatever the fuck he wants to do.
playing their A game tonight. Because why wouldn't they. Word is Alonzo Mourning is coming out of retirement to play this one game then he will go back to losing fights with smaller people wallowing in obscurity.
I wonder if Kristaps Porzingis can be had in a trade
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given the fact they're currently ranked 6th in the league on offense, I'd say you're overstating things just a bit.
However, there are clearly some legit concerns about late game lineups and execution.
That ranking is inflated by the second chance points afforded to them by Mitch. We have a lot of inefficient scorers on this team and our offensive rebounding masks a lot of issues with the offensive system in general.
They have 1 ineffecient scorer..
Randle is at 46% an efg% of 53
Brunson is at 47% and an efg% of 51
Their 2 main scorers are effecient..
-Randle in crunchtime moments
-lack of 3 pt shooters around Brunson and randle
The knicks need more knockdown shooters
-Randle in crunchtime moments
-lack of 3 pt shooters around Brunson and randle
The knicks need more knockdown shooters
This^ all of this^
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given the fact they're currently ranked 6th in the league on offense, I'd say you're overstating things just a bit.
However, there are clearly some legit concerns about late game lineups and execution.
That ranking is inflated by the second chance points afforded to them by Mitch. We have a lot of inefficient scorers on this team and our offensive rebounding masks a lot of issues with the offensive system in general.
They have 1 ineffecient scorer..
Randle is at 46% an efg% of 53
Brunson is at 47% and an efg% of 51
Their 2 main scorers are effecient..
That's the point it's a 2 man offense that is predicated on Randall and Bronson creating and making tough shots.
That's why when they play a tough defense that you can take away one or two they're done.
It's hero ball at its finest and it's not sustainable and will get destroyed in the playoffs
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In comment 16022849 Jan in DC said:
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In comment 16022836 Enzo said:
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given the fact they're currently ranked 6th in the league on offense, I'd say you're overstating things just a bit.
However, there are clearly some legit concerns about late game lineups and execution.
That ranking is inflated by the second chance points afforded to them by Mitch. We have a lot of inefficient scorers on this team and our offensive rebounding masks a lot of issues with the offensive system in general.
They have 1 ineffecient scorer..
Randle is at 46% an efg% of 53
Brunson is at 47% and an efg% of 51
Their 2 main scorers are effecient..
That's the point it's a 2 man offense that is predicated on Randall and Bronson creating and making tough shots.
That's why when they play a tough defense that you can take away one or two they're done.
It's hero ball at its finest and it's not sustainable and will get destroyed in the playoffs
Every team is a 2 man offense, and then 3 through 10 are complimentary pieces. You habe a scorer off the bench to mix in with your top 2 guys and then everyone aorund them is complimentsry..
Its why Rj doesnt fit with this team..
You look at any great team in this league, their 3rd best player is a shooter, great defender, rebounder and ball mover..
What seperates teams is their top 2 guys..
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In comment 16022860 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 16022849 Jan in DC said:
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In comment 16022836 Enzo said:
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given the fact they're currently ranked 6th in the league on offense, I'd say you're overstating things just a bit.
However, there are clearly some legit concerns about late game lineups and execution.
That ranking is inflated by the second chance points afforded to them by Mitch. We have a lot of inefficient scorers on this team and our offensive rebounding masks a lot of issues with the offensive system in general.
They have 1 ineffecient scorer..
Randle is at 46% an efg% of 53
Brunson is at 47% and an efg% of 51
Their 2 main scorers are effecient..
That's the point it's a 2 man offense that is predicated on Randall and Bronson creating and making tough shots.
That's why when they play a tough defense that you can take away one or two they're done.
It's hero ball at its finest and it's not sustainable and will get destroyed in the playoffs
Every team is a 2 man offense, and then 3 through 10 are complimentary pieces. You habe a scorer off the bench to mix in with your top 2 guys and then everyone aorund them is complimentsry..
Its why Rj doesnt fit with this team..
You look at any great team in this league, their 3rd best player is a shooter, great defender, rebounder and ball mover..
What seperates teams is their top 2 guys..
You're not getting this it's not about you talent it's about utilization and in the moments being able to use the rest of the players around you they don't.
Great players make average players better around them by distributing and moving the ball it's do or die with these two guys.
I have seen countless times where other players get wide open looks of Brunsor Randle iso and they miss the shot.
Players are stagnant throughout the whole game. This offense is my turn your turn my turn your turn.
Tell me how often 4 people touch the ball on a possession on this team.
I mean last year how many times did we see Evan and Randle 2 man game as everyone else stood in the corner . Randle dribble it up.
Don’t get me wrong. The Knicks pieces do not mesh at all. Rj Brunson Randle all want to live in the paint. And grimes is not the knock down spacer some believed him to be. But if you think this is an offense that shares the ball and is “like most other teams” you are out of your mind
Of course it would be better and you are talking about 2 top 3 players in the league that are unselfish ball players that would make the extra pass.
Would this be a good offense for them absolutely not.
Tatum strive in a high assist, wide spacing, move the ball offense currently.
Ja is in a fast pace, heavy drive and kick offense built around what he does well.
Both of these players put their teams in position to be successful to open up space for them to operate.
Which Randle has never done and I have hope for Brunson because right now he is trying to carry the team every night and do too much to validate his contract and put the weight of the city on his shoulders.
Players are stagnant throughout the whole game. This offense is my turn your turn my turn your turn.
Tell me how often 4 people touch the ball on a possession on this team.
I mean last year how many times did we see Evan and Randle 2 man game as everyone else stood in the corner . Randle dribble it up.
Don’t get me wrong. The Knicks pieces do not mesh at all. Rj Brunson Randle all want to live in the paint. And grimes is not the knock down spacer some believed him to be. But if you think this is an offense that shares the ball and is “like most other teams” you are out of your mind
They are 28th in assists for 2 reasons, they do not habe knock down shooters and there are times Randle and Brunson shoot to much..
You put a knock down shooter in Rj's spot and guarantee the assists go up..
You should watch other teams offense and see how they get those open 3s and how the ball movement starts, 9 times out of 10 its off their star being doubled or creating and kickong out..
and the DHO that zrandle ran with fournier is a staple in most NBA offenses, you see it all the time run with Golden State
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Randle with Tatum and Brunson with Ja Morant and they played the exact same offense, they wouldnt be better?
Of course it would be better and you are talking about 2 top 3 players in the league that are unselfish ball players that would make the extra pass.
Would this be a good offense for them absolutely not.
Tatum strive in a high assist, wide spacing, move the ball offense currently.
Ja is in a fast pace, heavy drive and kick offense built around what he does well.
Both of these players put their teams in position to be successful to open up space for them to operate.
Which Randle has never done and I have hope for Brunson because right now he is trying to carry the team every night and do too much to validate his contract and put the weight of the city on his shoulders.
wait you think Tatum scores off assists? seriously? Tatum is one of the more iso heavy players in the league the Celtics run iso for much of the game..
Ja Morant would thrive in Thibs offense just like derrick Rose did..
Randle and Tatum have the same assist numbers..Tatum blows him away scoring wise, its not even a debate but saying Tatum thrives in a ball movement offrnse is laughably wrong
I have seen countless times where other players get wide open looks of Brunsor Randle iso and they miss the shot.
They take 50% of the shots currently and I bet if you looked at what they take by possession that they are on the floor it probably pushes to 70%.
When they pass it out of necessity not to move the ball or get players involved.
BTW I hate adding Brunson to this because I think this offense forces him to play this way instead having other options .
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In comment 16022880 nygiants16 said:
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Randle with Tatum and Brunson with Ja Morant and they played the exact same offense, they wouldnt be better?
Of course it would be better and you are talking about 2 top 3 players in the league that are unselfish ball players that would make the extra pass.
Would this be a good offense for them absolutely not.
Tatum strive in a high assist, wide spacing, move the ball offense currently.
Ja is in a fast pace, heavy drive and kick offense built around what he does well.
Both of these players put their teams in position to be successful to open up space for them to operate.
Which Randle has never done and I have hope for Brunson because right now he is trying to carry the team every night and do too much to validate his contract and put the weight of the city on his shoulders.
wait you think Tatum scores off assists? seriously? Tatum is one of the more iso heavy players in the league the Celtics run iso for much of the game..
Ja Morant would thrive in Thibs offense just like derrick Rose did..
Randle and Tatum have the same assist numbers..Tatum blows him away scoring wise, its not even a debate but saying Tatum thrives in a ball movement offrnse is laughably wrong
The offense Tatum is in is a high assist move the ball offense where everyone on the floor is involved it gives him the spacing to operate and Tatum is not using 20 seconds of the shot clock to score.
The offense sucks and when teams tighten up on defense in the 4th in close games Randle folds like a cheap card table.
Just like when playoff defense starts.
The offense sucks and when teams tighten up on defense in the 4th in close games Randle folds like a cheap card table.
Just like when playoff defense starts.
Yup because thats what i said..
Just admit you hate Randle and no matter ehat he does, you are going to shit on it..
If it was Rj playing Randles role you wouldnt be bitching..
Thibs offense isnt perfect but if you had 2 star players the offense would be fine..
But on my list of people that should go. It’s thibs number 1. Front office number 2
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One for the ages, he is a genius.
The offense sucks and when teams tighten up on defense in the 4th in close games Randle folds like a cheap card table.
Just like when playoff defense starts.
Yup because thats what i said..
Just admit you hate Randle and no matter ehat he does, you are going to shit on it..
If it was Rj playing Randles role you wouldnt be bitching..
Thibs offense isnt perfect but if you had 2 star players the offense would be fine..
No hate Thibs and I like Randle if he was used properly and had a coach that didn't let Randle run the team same with Brunson he is being miss used.
RJ get too much of a leash and is not being developed and when he is finally held accountable he has no clue what to do.
It's a coaching issue 100%
I own a F'ing Randle jersey I would love for him to be a great all around player but without accountability. He does what he did on the last play of the game vs.the Lakers.
Whatever the fuck he wants to do.
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In comment 16022904 larryflower37 said:
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One for the ages, he is a genius.
The offense sucks and when teams tighten up on defense in the 4th in close games Randle folds like a cheap card table.
Just like when playoff defense starts.
Yup because thats what i said..
Just admit you hate Randle and no matter ehat he does, you are going to shit on it..
If it was Rj playing Randles role you wouldnt be bitching..
Thibs offense isnt perfect but if you had 2 star players the offense would be fine..
No hate Thibs and I like Randle if he was used properly and had a coach that didn't let Randle run the team same with Brunson he is being miss used.
RJ get too much of a leash and is not being developed and when he is finally held accountable he has no clue what to do.
It's a coaching issue 100%
I own a F'ing Randle jersey I would love for him to be a great all around player but without accountability. He does what he did on the last play of the game vs.the Lakers.
Whatever the fuck he wants to do.
Fair enough