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Schoen, Martindale, and Henderson at Senior Bowl

Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/31/2023 7:39 pm
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Giants GM Joe Schoen watched the American roster’s receivers pretty closely today at @seniorbowl next to, who else, Bills GM Brandon Beane.

In this photo: Giants DC Wink Martindale (white sleeves), DBs coach Jerome Henderson (jacket around waist), Schoen (blue) & Beane (gray)
Get us a quality WR or two Joe  
BillT : 1/31/2023 7:44 pm : link
We possibly had the worst talent in the league there. Hard to compete with any unit, much less WR, playing at that level.
Would seem to indicate looking  
section125 : 1/31/2023 8:17 pm : link
for CBs or DBs with Wink and Henderson there, no?
Daboll and Kafka  
Jolly Blue Giant : 1/31/2023 8:28 pm : link
There too
RE: Would seem to indicate looking  
Sammo85 : 1/31/2023 8:29 pm : link
In comment 16021321 section125 said:
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for CBs or DBs with Wink and Henderson there, no?


Maybe. Can see Wink looking really at anybody that’s standout on D including DL/LB. Henderson more focused on the DBs.
RE: Daboll and Kafka  
Jolly Blue Giant : 1/31/2023 8:31 pm : link
In comment 16021329 Jolly Blue Giant said:
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There too

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The Giants are in a very bad situation at WR  
Rich_Houston_1971 : 1/31/2023 8:37 pm : link
I can't remember a time how weak we are at WR then the present. This goes back to mid 70's for me.

At the start of next season for different reasons we may not have (Slayton-FA, Wan'dale-knee Golladay-done and Sheperd-knee). There's no telling how effective the injured players are going to be coming back.

That's 4 of a typical active roster of 6 WR that need to be
added for beginning of season.

Hope Joe gets some good ones lined up for draft. Average WR will not do. We need a Jamar Chase type.
RE: The Giants are in a very bad situation at WR  
Chris684 : 1/31/2023 8:43 pm : link
In comment 16021340 Rich_Houston_1971 said:
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I can't remember a time how weak we are at WR then the present. This goes back to mid 70's for me.

At the start of next season for different reasons we may not have (Slayton-FA, Wan'dale-knee Golladay-done and Sheperd-knee). There's no telling how effective the injured players are going to be coming back.

That's 4 of a typical active roster of 6 WR that need to be
added for beginning of season.

Hope Joe gets some good ones lined up for draft. Average WR will not do. We need a Jamar Chase type.


The early to mid 90s before Toomer emerged was pretty bad as far as WR’s I guess Calloway was a decent player but I don’t remember much else there.
I believe they will certainly address WR  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/31/2023 9:09 pm : link
in the draft. I want BPA and if they get a plus player at several positions it will make a much better team. IOL, ILB, DL, corner and WR.

I actually think Schoen is going to very heavy on D but we will see how it plays out.

Wink will be all over the ILB's, corners and I think he will also want a DE. It was a very strange D for Wink from how his D's have played in the past stopping the run.
RE: RE: The Giants are in a very bad situation at WR  
k2tampa : 1/31/2023 9:53 pm : link
In comment 16021342 Chris684 said:
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In comment 16021340 Rich_Houston_1971 said:


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I can't remember a time how weak we are at WR then the present. This goes back to mid 70's for me.

At the start of next season for different reasons we may not have (Slayton-FA, Wan'dale-knee Golladay-done and Sheperd-knee). There's no telling how effective the injured players are going to be coming back.

That's 4 of a typical active roster of 6 WR that need to be
added for beginning of season.

Hope Joe gets some good ones lined up for draft. Average WR will not do. We need a Jamar Chase type.



The early to mid 90s before Toomer emerged was pretty bad as far as WR’s I guess Calloway was a decent player but I don’t remember much else there.


Engram till '93. Mike Sherrad.
Yes...WR and Corner.....but must go with BPA  
George from PA : 1/31/2023 10:10 pm : link
I am also always in favor of trading down
RE: The Giants are in a very bad situation at WR  
blueblood : 1/31/2023 11:16 pm : link
In comment 16021340 Rich_Houston_1971 said:
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I can't remember a time how weak we are at WR then the present. This goes back to mid 70's for me.

At the start of next season for different reasons we may not have (Slayton-FA, Wan'dale-knee Golladay-done and Sheperd-knee). There's no telling how effective the injured players are going to be coming back.

That's 4 of a typical active roster of 6 WR that need to be
added for beginning of season.

Hope Joe gets some good ones lined up for draft. Average WR will not do. We need a Jamar Chase type.


The Word on the Street is there is no Jamar Chase type in this draft.
RE: RE: The Giants are in a very bad situation at WR  
Big Rick in FL : 1/31/2023 11:23 pm : link
In comment 16021490 blueblood said:
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In comment 16021340 Rich_Houston_1971 said:


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I can't remember a time how weak we are at WR then the present. This goes back to mid 70's for me.

At the start of next season for different reasons we may not have (Slayton-FA, Wan'dale-knee Golladay-done and Sheperd-knee). There's no telling how effective the injured players are going to be coming back.

That's 4 of a typical active roster of 6 WR that need to be
added for beginning of season.

Hope Joe gets some good ones lined up for draft. Average WR will not do. We need a Jamar Chase type.



The Word on the Street is there is no Jamar Chase type in this draft.


There most likely isn't a Ja'Marr Chase type in this draft, but that doesn't really matter to us anyway. If there was he'd be long gone before our pick. There are plenty of very good WRs in this draft.
Rashee Rice, WR, SMU  
allstarjim : 2/1/2023 1:57 am : link
Name to watch at the Senior Bowl.

There's some other Day 3 guys that could be of interest. Jonathan Mingo, Ole Miss, and Trey Palmer, Nebraska, Dontavion Wicks, Virginia, throw in Ronnie Bell, Michigan.

I think Wicks is really interesting as a late round flyer (pun intended, he can fly).
RE: RE: The Giants are in a very bad situation at WR  
section125 : 2/1/2023 6:09 am : link
In comment 16021342 Chris684 said:
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In comment 16021340 Rich_Houston_1971 said:


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I can't remember a time how weak we are at WR then the present. This goes back to mid 70's for me.

At the start of next season for different reasons we may not have (Slayton-FA, Wan'dale-knee Golladay-done and Sheperd-knee). There's no telling how effective the injured players are going to be coming back.

That's 4 of a typical active roster of 6 WR that need to be
added for beginning of season.

Hope Joe gets some good ones lined up for draft. Average WR will not do. We need a Jamar Chase type.



The early to mid 90s before Toomer emerged was pretty bad as far as WR’s I guess Calloway was a decent player but I don’t remember much else there.


They had crappy WRs when Simms was QB. The Giants have rarely had really good WRs, except for Eli's time with Plaxico, Toomer, then VC, Nicks and Manningham.

The Giants have been a WR poor team many times and many season.
We are only as good as our weakest link  
Giant John : 2/1/2023 6:44 am : link
Receivers by a long shot.
RE: RE: RE: The Giants are in a very bad situation at WR  
Dr. D : 2/1/2023 9:02 am : link
In comment 16021521 section125 said:
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They had crappy WRs when Simms was QB. The Giants have rarely had really good WRs, except for Eli's time with Plaxico, Toomer, then VC, Nicks and Manningham.

The Giants have been a WR poor team many times and many season.

Simms never had great WRs, but he did have Bavaro for a few years, which is more than DJ has had, so far. Lionel Manual also wasn't too shabby, from what I recall, and also better than what DJ has had, at least for a couple yrs.
RE: RE: RE: RE: The Giants are in a very bad situation at WR  
CornerStone246+17 : 2/1/2023 9:12 am : link
In comment 16021640 Dr. D said:
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They had crappy WRs when Simms was QB. The Giants have rarely had really good WRs, except for Eli's time with Plaxico, Toomer, then VC, Nicks and Manningham.

The Giants have been a WR poor team many times and many season.


Simms never had great WRs, but he did have Bavaro for a few years, which is more than DJ has had, so far. Lionel Manual also wasn't too shabby, from what I recall, and also better than what DJ has had, at least for a couple yrs.


That was a different era in the NFL too. The run game was so much more important. The new NFL rules favor the passing game tremendously now.

DJ needs WRs for this offense to be maximized. Preferably a true established #1 that can hit the ground running year 1.
RE: Rashee Rice, WR, SMU  
CornerStone246+17 : 2/1/2023 9:14 am : link
In comment 16021514 allstarjim said:
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Name to watch at the Senior Bowl.

There's some other Day 3 guys that could be of interest. Jonathan Mingo, Ole Miss, and Trey Palmer, Nebraska, Dontavion Wicks, Virginia, throw in Ronnie Bell, Michigan.

I think Wicks is really interesting as a late round flyer (pun intended, he can fly).


Nathaniel Dell Houston WR and Tyrique Stevenson Miami CB looked very impressive too.

Tank Dell 1v1s from yesterday's practice  
AcesUp : 2/1/2023 9:44 am : link
Are very pretty impressive. They're all over twitter. Now those drills will favor guys with his skillset and stature but easy to see our coaches liking a guy like that.
I like to trade down when the cupboard is bare ...  
Manny in CA : 2/1/2023 1:43 pm : link

Not this year, We made the playoffs, need PLAYMAKERS.

(1) Whether by trade or in the draft - Top tier "X" receiver

- Look what the Eagles did by stealing AJ Brown & DeVonte Smith (from our draft) or the difference Tyreek Hill made with the Dolphins -

(2) Same-same, as above - Top tier Corner

- Again, Eagles, when they stole James Bradberry from us

(3) Same-same, as above - Top tier MLB

We HURTING big time, in the middle, since Blake Martinez left

Everything else is gravy.
use the #25 pick in a package for  
Dave on the UWS : 2/1/2023 3:01 pm : link
Tee Higgins. Problems solved!
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