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Tom Brady retires....again

Anakim : 2/1/2023 8:14 am
For real this time....or so he says
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At least  
Joe Beckwith : 2/1/2023 12:04 pm : link
the Nort East , especially New England, won’t get Tampa Bay broadcasts instead of the Giants.
But the NFL will burn their territorial protection in to N.E. by showing Philthy if they win the SB.
Cmon KC!
I’ll even root for “Bad KT”…. for 3+ hours on 2/12/23….yuck.
Im guessing you watched zero  
Kmed6000 : 2/1/2023 12:04 pm : link
tampa bay games last year. Brady isn't perfect anywhere. He can't do the things physically that he's always done. Brady is finished. Say it with me.....Brady is finished.
Just heard an interesting fact...  
figgy2989 : 2/1/2023 12:28 pm : link
Although he never ended up playing pro-baseball, Tom Brady was the last active professional athlete to be drafted by the Expos.
RE: RE: I don't know why everyone assumes he's headed to San Fran  
mikeinbloomfield : 2/1/2023 1:08 pm : link
In comment 16021931 Optimus-NY said:
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they have at least two better options: Trey Lance and Jimmy G. If they think a guy with a torn ligament in his throwing arm will be fine, they have three.

He looked cooked in the playoffs and that Tampa Bay offense has some weapons and a decent O coordinator. Too bad he didn't go out on top, but that's a minor negative.






FYI:

1 - Jimmy G is a free agent (and he sucks).
2 - Trey Lance sucks right now too and is young and dumb.
3 - Purdy is a JAG and is hurt.

Brady would be the PERFECT one year stop gap.


I disagree that Jimmy G sucks. I think he's better than average. How do we know Trey Lance sucks? He either has bad luck or injury prone, but I don't think we've seen enough of him to know. I thought Purdy was going to be exposed at some point and it never happened. Who knows how good he is?

But Brady seemed physically incapable in the playoff game, to me, which is not something you would say about any of the other guys. Add to that the lack of escapeability that seems necessary in today's NFL, and I still think the 9ers have better options.
RE: Just heard an interesting fact...  
bw in dc : 2/1/2023 1:26 pm : link
In comment 16021974 figgy2989 said:
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Although he never ended up playing pro-baseball, Tom Brady was the last active professional athlete to be drafted by the Expos.


Apparently, he was a very good catcher. Left bat, too.
RE: RE: I don't know why everyone assumes he's headed to San Fran  
BillKo : 2/1/2023 1:50 pm : link
In comment 16021931 Optimus-NY said:
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In comment 16021818 mikeinbloomfield said:


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they have at least two better options: Trey Lance and Jimmy G. If they think a guy with a torn ligament in his throwing arm will be fine, they have three.

He looked cooked in the playoffs and that Tampa Bay offense has some weapons and a decent O coordinator. Too bad he didn't go out on top, but that's a minor negative.






FYI:

1 - Jimmy G is a free agent (and he sucks).
2 - Trey Lance sucks right now too and is young and dumb.
3 - Purdy is a JAG and is hurt.

Brady would be the PERFECT one year stop gap.


I agree that he would be the perfect one year stop gap where Lance and Purdy could learn under him for the the future, and even replace him if things just weren't going well.

Brady was in a bad spot this year and also on a team that could not run the ball. That wouldn't be the case in San Fran. And he'd be better protected. He can still make the throws in the right offense.

Of course it all depends on if Brady still wants it - he just retired so this is probably a moot conversation.

The issue right now is San Fran is built to win and probably the best team in the NFC (maybe football) if they could get their QB situation right.

Aaron Rodgers is probably the VERY best fit and could be had for draft choices I'm sure.

RE: Im guessing you watched zero  
BillKo : 2/1/2023 1:51 pm : link
In comment 16021944 Kmed6000 said:
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tampa bay games last year. Brady isn't perfect anywhere. He can't do the things physically that he's always done. Brady is finished. Say it with me.....Brady is finished.


Didn't he lead the league in attempts and yardage?

He's not the same player he was, if that's finished then I'll agree.

He'd have to be in the perfect spot. San Fran is the perfect spot.

Here they come!  
JoeMoney19 : 2/1/2023 1:55 pm : link
I really don't get the he's toast comments  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 2/1/2023 1:57 pm : link
yea they got wrecked by a better team in the playoffs, but Brady's arm still looks more than capable. Matt Ryan's arm looked more done last year. Philip Rivers and Drew Brees had water pistols for arms at the end. Peyton looked practically handicapped physically at the end. Brady is still throwing ropes. I mentioned it on a Rodgers thread recently but I actually see more obvious physical decline in Rodgers than I do Brady.

He's 46 so he could fall off a cliff in a nanosecond. You can't rely on his health. But from what I actually saw last year, he definitely still has the arm for it.
RE: He’s done, he’s not going to SF  
markky : 2/1/2023 1:59 pm : link
In comment 16021711 Chris684 said:
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The worst thing that could happen to a football player happened to Brady last season. He looked like a guy who no longer wanted to get hit.


definitely in that last game. he was ducking away from contact, leading to some terrible throws.
RE: I really don't get the he's toast comments  
BillKo : 2/1/2023 2:00 pm : link
In comment 16022084 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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yea they got wrecked by a better team in the playoffs, but Brady's arm still looks more than capable. Matt Ryan's arm looked more done last year. Philip Rivers and Drew Brees had water pistols for arms at the end. Peyton looked practically handicapped physically at the end. Brady is still throwing ropes. I mentioned it on a Rodgers thread recently but I actually see more obvious physical decline in Rodgers than I do Brady.

He's 46 so he could fall off a cliff in a nanosecond. You can't rely on his health. But from what I actually saw last year, he definitely still has the arm for it.


With the San Fran defense and the WR/TE/RB combinations they have on offense, I'm sure Brady would distribute the football just fine.

Hell, Purdy was doing ok too. That team is ultra talented.

A lot of what you saw this year was mental fatigue on Brady IMO.

Look, if that personal life stuff remains and he doesn't want the game anymore, then he's be a horrible choice for San Fran.

But........
RE: RE: He’s done, he’s not going to SF  
BillKo : 2/1/2023 2:01 pm : link
In comment 16022088 markky said:
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The worst thing that could happen to a football player happened to Brady last season. He looked like a guy who no longer wanted to get hit.



definitely in that last game. he was ducking away from contact, leading to some terrible throws.


That's really nothing new with Brady lol
And my take is Brady only returned to Tampa...  
BillKo : 2/1/2023 2:05 pm : link
..because he had to.

He wanted to play somewhere else.

Given that, the divorce, the constant publicity just wore him down. You could see it in his face.
His yards per attempt  
Kmed6000 : 2/1/2023 4:20 pm : link
was the 3rd worst in the NFL. He had 2 top end receivers in Evans and Godwin. He had a few good complimentary receivers in Julio Jones and Gage. He does not have the arm strength anymore and he wore down as the season went on. As to be expected when you are 45 years old. His arm is only going to get worse. I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole, no matter what team it is. He's toast.

Regardless, I believe him when he says he's had enough. He looked like he had enough around week 10.
RE: RE: I don't know why everyone assumes he's headed to San Fran  
MeanBunny : 2/1/2023 5:01 pm : link
In comment 16021931 Optimus-NY said:
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FYI:

1 - Jimmy G is a free agent (and he sucks).


Brady would be the PERFECT one year stop gap.


Why do people say Jimmy G sucks? He gets hurt, but thats not sucking. There are QBs that I am sure we all wishe would get hurt so we didn't have to see their crap anymore.
Jimmy Garoppolo has a 53-21 record in his career. The 49ers were a goner until he came back.






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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/1/2023 6:22 pm : link
I believe this is indeed the end for TB12. I wish he had stayed retire the first time. He looked completely washed @ times this season &-for him personally-I think him returning cost him his marriage. All for an 8-9 season ending with a whipping @ home by Dallas...sad.

I also think he's going to suck broadcasting.
RE: RE: RE: I don't know why everyone assumes he's headed to San Fran  
UConn4523 : 2/1/2023 6:26 pm : link
In comment 16022234 MeanBunny said:
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FYI:

1 - Jimmy G is a free agent (and he sucks).


Brady would be the PERFECT one year stop gap.



Why do people say Jimmy G sucks? He gets hurt, but thats not sucking. There are QBs that I am sure we all wishe would get hurt so we didn't have to see their crap anymore.
Jimmy Garoppolo has a 53-21 record in his career. The 49ers were a goner until he came back.







Technically they weren’t considering there was no drop off with Purdy. Pretty sure their PPG rose with Purdy as well.
RE: RE: How many times did Favre retire?  
Carson53 : 2/1/2023 8:09 pm : link
In comment 16021928 Optimus-NY said:
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FAV-RA...He became a bit of a caricature at the end.
Hope Brady is done now, we have had enough too.
I’ll never understand all the hate for Brady.  
bradshaw44 : 2/1/2023 8:19 pm : link
Guy is responsible for two of the greatest nights of my life!
RE: I’ll never understand all the hate for Brady.  
Route 9 : 2/2/2023 6:56 am : link
In comment 16022378 bradshaw44 said:
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Guy is responsible for two of the greatest nights of my life!


Same. Very weird. I don't get what he did to piss everyone off so much lol
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