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Rhule suing Panthers over...

Mike in St. Louis : 2/1/2023 3:14 pm
severance payments...not sure he doesn't have a legit beef but the Giants sure dodged a major bullet with this guy...and you know Mara and Tisch would not have acknowledged their mistake and moved on as quickly as Tepper did...

we just had to endure Joe Judge for two years...
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Yeah, I mean I don't think we're one totalk  
Anakim : 2/1/2023 3:16 pm : link
Rhule sucks, but we had Judge so was it really a bullet dodged?
Judge and Rhule got hired like one day apart  
BlackLight : 2/1/2023 3:20 pm : link
and Rhule lasted five games longer than Judge.
RE: Judge and Rhule got hired like one day apart  
Ira : 2/1/2023 3:22 pm : link
In comment 16022144 BlackLight said:
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and Rhule lasted five games longer than Judge.


Didn't Rhule have a much longer contract?
Never liked Rhule...  
bw in dc : 2/1/2023 3:23 pm : link
and we were duped by Fraud Judge.

What a miserable hiring process that was in hindsight.
RE: Never liked Rhule...  
Larry in Pencilvania : 2/1/2023 3:25 pm : link
In comment 16022149 bw in dc said:
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and we were duped by Fraud Judge.

What a miserable hiring process that was in hindsight.


So was the one prior and probably the one before that
How is...  
Chris in Philly : 2/1/2023 3:25 pm : link
a criticism of Tisch and Mara is needed in this case? We have had 4 head coaches (and an interim) in 6 years. How did they wait too long in those cases?
Another reason why  
Jay on the Island : 2/1/2023 3:27 pm : link
the Gettleman praise is so ridiculous. He hired Shurmur then he was torn between two disasters Judge and Rhule.
RE: Yeah, I mean I don't think we're one totalk  
DieHard : 2/1/2023 3:27 pm : link
In comment 16022140 Anakim said:
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Rhule sucks, but we had Judge so was it really a bullet dodged?


Bullet dodged in that if we had Rhule, he probably wouldn't have melted down as spectacularly as Judge did at the end of 2021, and he'd still be the coach entering 2022, which means we'd lose out on Daboll.

It sucks to have endured either of them, but the Panthers are just beginning to pick up the pieces, while we've already moved on to better things.
RE: RE: Judge and Rhule got hired like one day apart  
State Your Name : 2/1/2023 3:29 pm : link
In comment 16022146 Ira said:
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In comment 16022144 BlackLight said:


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and Rhule lasted five games longer than Judge.



Didn't Rhule have a much longer contract?


Yeah - 7 years and about $60 million, IIRC !!!
He lasted 2.5 years.

hahahahaha!
RE: RE: Judge and Rhule got hired like one day apart  
BlackLight : 2/1/2023 3:29 pm : link
In comment 16022146 Ira said:
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In comment 16022144 BlackLight said:


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and Rhule lasted five games longer than Judge.



Didn't Rhule have a much longer contract?


Judge had a five year deal, Rhule had a seven year deal.
RE: Another reason why  
HMunster : 2/1/2023 3:29 pm : link
In comment 16022153 Jay on the Island said:
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the Gettleman praise is so ridiculous. He hired Shurmur then he was torn between two disasters Judge and Rhule.

This entire board was clamoring for Rhule and was cursing out DG and Mara for "losing" him to the Panthers.
Giants dodged a bullet?  
David B. : 2/1/2023 3:38 pm : link
They got Judge. That didn't work out much better. Both guys ultimately sucked.

And Gettleman, say what you want about his draft picks, never found the right coach. And that was as big a failing as anything else he did.
RE: RE: Another reason why  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 2/1/2023 3:39 pm : link
In comment 16022159 HMunster said:
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In comment 16022153 Jay on the Island said:


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the Gettleman praise is so ridiculous. He hired Shurmur then he was torn between two disasters Judge and Rhule.


This entire board was clamoring for Rhule and was cursing out DG and Mara for "losing" him to the Panthers.


How soon we forget!
Mara deserves credit for telling Rhule to GTFO  
Ben in Tampa : 2/1/2023 3:39 pm : link
when his agent called with that Panthers contract
I wanted Rhule or Rodriguez  
Spiciest Memelord : 2/1/2023 3:39 pm : link
all things considered, Riverboat Ron hasn't done a completely horrible job as you would expect working for Snyder.
Before we hired Dabes  
Chris684 : 2/1/2023 3:40 pm : link
We were choosing between Shurmur and Patricia and then Judge and Rhule for HC.

What a crew.
RE: I wanted Rhule or Rodriguez  
Anakim : 2/1/2023 3:40 pm : link
In comment 16022175 Spiciest Memelord said:
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all things considered, Riverboat Ron hasn't done a completely horrible job as you would expect working for Snyder.


You wanted Rich Rodriguez?
RE: RE: Yeah, I mean I don't think we're one totalk  
Anakim : 2/1/2023 3:42 pm : link
In comment 16022154 DieHard said:
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In comment 16022140 Anakim said:


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Rhule sucks, but we had Judge so was it really a bullet dodged?



Bullet dodged in that if we had Rhule, he probably wouldn't have melted down as spectacularly as Judge did at the end of 2021, and he'd still be the coach entering 2022, which means we'd lose out on Daboll.

It sucks to have endured either of them, but the Panthers are just beginning to pick up the pieces, while we've already moved on to better things.


We don't know that. Rhule seems to have thin skin too. We already suspected that Mara was very reluctant to fire Judge until Tisch stepped in.
That hiring season was  
mattlawson : 2/1/2023 3:47 pm : link
One magic loogie
Assuming there is no agreement between the NFL and NCAA on this issue  
Ivan15 : 2/1/2023 4:08 pm : link
Rhule should get the whole $8.5 million per year on top of what he is getting from Nebraska.
RE: Assuming there is no agreement between the NFL and NCAA on this issue  
Mad Mike : 2/1/2023 4:17 pm : link
In comment 16022195 Ivan15 said:
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Rhule should get the whole $8.5 million per year on top of what he is getting from Nebraska.

His contract credits the Panthers with an offset for whatever he gets under his college contract, so he has no claim on the entire Panthers' salary. The only issue is whether the raises in later years (after the Panthers' deal would have expired) of his college deal are big enough that more money should count as an offset than just the amount during the overlap between the two contracts.
Tepper spares no expense (John Hammond voice)  
UConn4523 : 2/1/2023 4:19 pm : link
talk about a rude awakening. Can’t just throw around money and expect a contending team.
After reading the article  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 2/1/2023 4:37 pm : link
it is hard to feel sympathy for either side.
I'm glad we didn't hire Rhule  
mikeinbloomfield : 2/1/2023 4:47 pm : link
but this kind of thing happens a lot. Both CMOs I recently worked for had a dispute with the company over severance and guess where they ended up.
RE: Never liked Rhule...  
Spider56 : 2/1/2023 4:50 pm : link
In comment 16022149 bw in dc said:
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and we were duped by Fraud Judge.

What a miserable hiring process that was in hindsight.


+1

Rhule was a 1 hit wonder and Judge was hired because of the guys he worked for ... both used car salesmen, wealthy used car salesmen.
I never liked Rhule...  
DefenseWins : 2/1/2023 4:50 pm : link
something about him was sending off alarm bells. I know a lot of Giants fans were pissed off that we did not hire him.

My thoughts on this were captured in the link below


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The Giants didn't dodge a bullet. They hired Judge.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/1/2023 5:25 pm : link
The best you can say is they only got shot in the leg.
They certainly dodged a financial bullet  
UConn4523 : 2/1/2023 5:48 pm : link
Don’t remember what judge was rumored to have been hired for but it was nothing close to Rhule. Not sympathizing with the wealthy Maras but technically speaking that money is now better spent elsewhere.
RE: I never liked Rhule...  
Spiciest Memelord : 2/1/2023 5:50 pm : link
In comment 16022228 DefenseWins said:
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something about him was sending off alarm bells. I know a lot of Giants fans were pissed off that we did not hire him.

My thoughts on this were captured in the link below
my thoughts exactly... - ( New Window )


Rhule has a skeevy look to him, but I don't think there was anything in his past that would make you worry about something like that.
RE: They certainly dodged a financial bullet  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/1/2023 6:24 pm : link
In comment 16022267 UConn4523 said:
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Don’t remember what judge was rumored to have been hired for but it was nothing close to Rhule. Not sympathizing with the wealthy Maras but technically speaking that money is now better spent elsewhere.


At the time they were also paying Shurmur because they fired him. That's a tough pill to swallow.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/1/2023 6:25 pm : link
Rhule strikes me as a dude who is best suited for college. He'll do well in Lincoln.
RE: Yeah, I mean I don't think we're one totalk  
j_rud : 2/1/2023 8:58 pm : link
In comment 16022140 Anakim said:
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Rhule sucks, but we had Judge so was it really a bullet dodged?


You can dodge a bullet while stepping into the path of a freight train.
RE: Tepper spares no expense (John Hammond voice)  
Costy16 : 2/2/2023 9:06 am : link
In comment 16022203 UConn4523 said:
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talk about a rude awakening. Can’t just throw around money and expect a contending team.


Exactly this. Tepper has had a lot of issues blow up in his face since becoming owner. The biggest being the practice facility debacle in South Carolina. He's not a very good owner, and for the most part, the fans do not like him.
RE: RE: They certainly dodged a financial bullet  
UConn4523 : 2/2/2023 9:09 am : link
In comment 16022288 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 16022267 UConn4523 said:


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Don’t remember what judge was rumored to have been hired for but it was nothing close to Rhule. Not sympathizing with the wealthy Maras but technically speaking that money is now better spent elsewhere.



At the time they were also paying Shurmur because they fired him. That's a tough pill to swallow.


Absolutely but I’m sure they’d rather be paying Shurmur and Judge over Shurmur and Rhule. I bet Rhule made more than both combined, actually.
RE: RE: RE: Judge and Rhule got hired like one day apart  
Gatorade Dunk : 2/2/2023 11:46 am : link
In comment 16022158 BlackLight said:
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In comment 16022144 BlackLight said:


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and Rhule lasted five games longer than Judge.



Didn't Rhule have a much longer contract?



Judge had a five year deal, Rhule had a seven year deal.

The Giants were paying three head coaches last year. I'm not sure anyone should be praising the Giants simply for not hiring Rhule (or not giving out as long of a contract), especially when you consider that they probably would have hired Rhule if they could have.
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