Lets say the Giants are able to work out a deal with Jones and they move onto SB. Seems as though a long-term contract is a long shot. The best move may be a non-exclusive FT. I can't see anyone signing Barkley and giving up 2 firsts, but can we get maybe a 2nd and 4th. Or even a 3rd and 4th.
Do you guys think Barkley would net us a draft pick or two in that situation?
The headline piece in the McCaffery deal was a second rounder, and he's under contract for 3 more seasons at a very good price (given that the signing bonus all stayed behind with Carolina).
So the buying team either a) intends to pay Barkley a contract he's happy with (i.e. expensive) in which case they wouldn't also be willing to pay a ton of trade compensation or b) wants to utilize his 2 years of play under the tag (which comes along with the risk of holdout or etc).
I'd say maybe a third rounder and a late pick?
Also, I think SB is on McCaffrey's level when it comes to trade value. Don't forget how injury prone McCaffrey was in the years prior to this one.
If he's got unrealistic salary demands, its one thing but the best option is to sign him and play him. The second best option is to tag him and play him.
If he's got unrealistic salary demands, its one thing but the best option is to sign him and play him. The second best option is to tag him and play him.
Reasons for trading him:
1. I don't think a team like the Giants are in a position to pay big money for a RB.
2. I don't believe SB will accept less money that McCaffrey got and he shouldn't.
3. SB will not be happy with a tag and will surely sit out and be less interested in the season. Understandable as RB's have such a short shelf life.
If he's got unrealistic salary demands, its one thing but the best option is to sign him and play him. The second best option is to tag him and play him.
Mccaffrey was great, and i know its a bit of a broad stroke answer....but they got just as far as SF always does.
I could see teams like Buffalo, KC, LAR, DET, NO, DEN and others being interested. A McCaffrey type package likely isn't in the works, but a day 2 pick for the right to tag Barkley in 2023 and 2024 (or work out an extension) seems likely.
How is Barley the second best RB in the league?
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He's the second best running back in the league.
How is Barley the second best RB in the league?
He's certainly in the conversation.
Yet another team is? Who and why them?
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In comment 16022778 Ron from Ninerland said:
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He's the second best running back in the league.
How is Barley the second best RB in the league?
He's certainly in the conversation.
Based on virtually metric if you allow for circumstances to also be part of the equation. And then the eye test.
Crazy pills...I have to be taking them.
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In comment 16022778 Ron from Ninerland said:
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He's the second best running back in the league.
How is Barley the second best RB in the league?
He's certainly in the conversation.
Based on virtually metric if you allow for circumstances to also be part of the equation. And then the eye test.
Crazy pills...I have to be taking them.
Chubb and Jacobs had more yards, TDs and yards per carry than Saquon. Henry had more yards and TDs and the same yards per carry. Miles Sanders had more TDs and yards per carry, and only 43 less yards.
That is not even mentioning McCaffrey, who had more total yards and TDs than Saquon, and more total TDs.
Saquon is arguably not even a top 5 RB. Maybe 5th best, IMO.
Maybe some of them are friends of our former GM Gettleman and will get his direct feedback too.
We can only hope.
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He's the second best running back in the league. We all saw what he did for the Giants and we all saw what the first best running back did for the Niners. He's got a tremendous work ethic and if he stays healthy he's likely to improve as a player, particularly as a receiver.
If he's got unrealistic salary demands, its one thing but the best option is to sign him and play him. The second best option is to tag him and play him.
Reasons for trading him:
1. I don't think a team like the Giants are in a position to pay big money for a RB.
2. I don't believe SB will accept less money that McCaffrey got and he shouldn't.
3. SB will not be happy with a tag and will surely sit out and be less interested in the season. Understandable as RB's have such a short shelf life.
You guys want to trade everyone every year how about we keep some and I don’t know get better
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In comment 16022778 Ron from Ninerland said:
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He's the second best running back in the league. We all saw what he did for the Giants and we all saw what the first best running back did for the Niners. He's got a tremendous work ethic and if he stays healthy he's likely to improve as a player, particularly as a receiver.
If he's got unrealistic salary demands, its one thing but the best option is to sign him and play him. The second best option is to tag him and play him.
Reasons for trading him:
1. I don't think a team like the Giants are in a position to pay big money for a RB.
2. I don't believe SB will accept less money that McCaffrey got and he shouldn't.
3. SB will not be happy with a tag and will surely sit out and be less interested in the season. Understandable as RB's have such a short shelf life.
You guys want to trade everyone every year how about we keep some and I don’t know get better
Who else have I suggested trading? Who is "you guys"?
Barkley is going to ask for McCaffrey money and he should. I do not begrudge him for that. RB's have a small window to cash in and he absolutely should cash in. Someone will pay him McCaffrey money.
No, nobody is giving 2 firsts, but you the Giants can still trade him for less. If the Giants give Barkley the non-exclusive tag, any team signing him has to give up 2 firsts...HOWEVER, the Giants can still trade Barkley for whatever they want. They can call any team and negotiate any trade and then they can negotiate a new contract.
I'm not following your logic at all. Who cares what the 9ers are paying him. When CMC was a FA, he received 16 million per year and a large portion gtd. That is what SB should expect. Carolina then traded him to the 9ers who are only on the hook for his salary which is 12M. He still got 4/64 with 38M gtd.
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