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TyreeHelmet : 2/2/2023 4:30 pm
The time has come to replace my coffee machine at home. I love my coffee and have become a bit of a coffee snob over time. With that said, what do people recommend for a good at home coffee machine? Don't necessarily need the ability to brew a cappuccino or latte, but want to make a great pot of coffee.

Currently have a Cuisinart that needs to be replaced.

I love my Keurig K-Classic coffee maker  
DCGMan : 2/2/2023 4:44 pm : link
I started buying coffee grinds online a couple years ago and now use the reusable cups as opposed to buying K-cups.

The machine gets used 4-6 times a day. Haven't had an issue over the last 7-8 years.
Miele  
mattlawson : 2/2/2023 4:49 pm : link
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We have the Keurig that does the frothing  
rnargi : 2/2/2023 5:02 pm : link
I literally hate the machine. My wife loves it, I use a french press
Save your money  
section125 : 2/2/2023 5:05 pm : link
and buy a simple Mr Coffee. I am a bit of a coffee snob, too. I've done most decent machines and they cost a lot and are no better than Mr. Coffee.
RE: Save your money  
TyreeHelmet : 2/2/2023 5:06 pm : link
In comment 16023097 section125 said:
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and buy a simple Mr Coffee. I am a bit of a coffee snob, too. I've done most decent machines and they cost a lot and are no better than Mr. Coffee.


Really don't think it makes any difference?
Technivorm  
thomasa510 : 2/2/2023 5:08 pm : link
Technivorm Moccamaster

Limited features and no bells and whistles.

The high price (around $300) reflects their investment in a water heater which pours water over grinds consistently and makes a good cup of coffee.

Definitely recommend
RE: RE: Save your money  
Bill in UT : 2/2/2023 5:13 pm : link
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and buy a simple Mr Coffee. I am a bit of a coffee snob, too. I've done most decent machines and they cost a lot and are no better than Mr. Coffee.



Really don't think it makes any difference?


A basic coffee machine is something that can pass hot water through coffee. It's not rocket surgery. I had a Kuerig that wouldn't work with the coffee pods that Mrs. in UT switched to, so we got a Cuisinart. The Kuerig took a minute to start brewing after you pressed Brew and brewed quickly, but the Cuisinart will start brewing immediately, but takes a minute to brew, so really no difference. I don't know if Mr. Coffee will allow pod use.
RE: RE: Save your money  
Bill in UT : 2/2/2023 5:13 pm : link
In comment 16023098 TyreeHelmet said:
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and buy a simple Mr Coffee. I am a bit of a coffee snob, too. I've done most decent machines and they cost a lot and are no better than Mr. Coffee.



Really don't think it makes any difference?


A basic coffee machine is something that can pass hot water through coffee. It's not rocket surgery. I had a Kuerig that wouldn't work with the coffee pods that Mrs. in UT switched to, so we got a Cuisinart. The Kuerig took a minute to start brewing after you pressed Brew and brewed quickly, but the Cuisinart will start brewing immediately, but takes a minute to brew, so really no difference. I don't know if Mr. Coffee will allow pod use.
RE: Technivorm  
RAIN : 2/2/2023 5:18 pm : link
In comment 16023099 thomasa510 said:
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Technivorm Moccamaster

Limited features and no bells and whistles.

The high price (around $300) reflects their investment in a water heater which pours water over grinds consistently and makes a good cup of coffee.

Definitely recommend


This. I work in coffee and this machine is demonstrably better than Mr Coffee.
RE: RE: RE: Save your money  
thomasa510 : 2/2/2023 5:21 pm : link
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and buy a simple Mr Coffee. I am a bit of a coffee snob, too. I've done most decent machines and they cost a lot and are no better than Mr. Coffee.



Really don't think it makes any difference?



A basic coffee machine is something that can pass hot water through coffee. It's not rocket surgery. I had a Kuerig that wouldn't work with the coffee pods that Mrs. in UT switched to, so we got a Cuisinart. The Kuerig took a minute to start brewing after you pressed Brew and brewed quickly, but the Cuisinart will start brewing immediately, but takes a minute to brew, so really no difference. I don't know if Mr. Coffee will allow pod use.


Agree. But similar to a grinder consistency is key. Consistent water heating temp impacts flavor. That’s why people use pour overs.
RE: Technivorm  
santacruzom : 2/2/2023 5:37 pm : link
In comment 16023099 thomasa510 said:
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Technivorm Moccamaster

Limited features and no bells and whistles.

The high price (around $300) reflects their investment in a water heater which pours water over grinds consistently and makes a good cup of coffee.

Definitely recommend


I can vouch for this. My wife thought it might have been all in my head, so we did a side-by-side comparison with some houseguests and every one of them thought the cup from our Moccamaster tasted better.
I’ll bet you my entire brokerage account  
mattlawson : 2/2/2023 5:38 pm : link
That my Miele tastes better than your mister coffee.
RE: RE: Save your money  
section125 : 2/2/2023 5:49 pm : link
In comment 16023098 TyreeHelmet said:
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and buy a simple Mr Coffee. I am a bit of a coffee snob, too. I've done most decent machines and they cost a lot and are no better than Mr. Coffee.



Really don't think it makes any difference?


None. They all get water to a certain temp and the spray it through the ground beans. The difference is how the beans are ground, course, medium, fine. That you can do yourself.
If you like your coffee stronger you add a little extra. Like it lighte(brown water) you add less. I think this is the key. Adjust the amount of coffee grounds in the bin to your taste and/or the fineness of the grind.

I had the Cuisinart that did the grinding for you, and no matter how I set the grind, it made brown water - weak. The Miele was slightly better.

I think Mr Coffee is $29-$34. You pay about triple for the better brands. And the most I get extra is a timer for when I need to get up early so I can prep it the night before - even then I rarely use it.

Anyway my 2 cents.
What are you drinking?  
3000_MilesToMeadowlands : 2/2/2023 5:56 pm : link
Your coffee matters: if you're getting it at ~$20 lb or more directly from a roaster. Spend the extra $100 or so (the machine will last a while) on a better machine. The temperature of the water as it pours over the coffee is key - and these machines are rated better (also a little more $$$).

The thermal carafe is better over the glass on hot plate if you are going to take a while to consume all the coffee.

Technivorm is a great machine
Ratio are new to the game but very good
Bonavita machines are right there
Breville Precision Brewer is a good machine as well

Check out www.wholelattelove.com they have very competitive prices.
RE: I’ll bet you my entire brokerage account  
section125 : 2/2/2023 5:59 pm : link
In comment 16023123 mattlawson said:
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That my Miele tastes better than your mister coffee.


But how does the coffee taste? [j/k]
Milk & Sugar?  
3000_MilesToMeadowlands : 2/2/2023 6:04 pm : link
If you are doing the milk & sugar thing, then yeah good ole Mr. Coffee (remember the Joe DiMaggio commercials in the 70s?) is fine. If u want good tasting black coffee that you are buying special - probably a higher end option.

It's like if you're going to drink screwdrivers, you use Smirnoff, not Belvedere.
It depends on the size of the carafe you want.  
Section331 : 2/2/2023 6:06 pm : link
I have a Mochamaster, which I got because it had the larger of the carafes for high end brewers. If an 8-cup pot works for you, I highly recommend a Bonavita. The Mochamaster runs over $300, the Bonavita about half that.

What makes them better machines is because they actually bring the water to a boil, which allows the grounds’ full flavor to steep out. Cheaper machines do not bring the water to a boil, put pump the water up to the coffee grounds.
RE: Milk & Sugar?  
section125 : 2/2/2023 6:18 pm : link
In comment 16023149 3000_MilesToMeadowlands said:
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If you are doing the milk & sugar thing, then yeah good ole Mr. Coffee (remember the Joe DiMaggio commercials in the 70s?) is fine. If u want good tasting black coffee that you are buying special - probably a higher end option.

It's like if you're going to drink screwdrivers, you use Smirnoff, not Belvedere.


The most important thing is how that machine makes the coffee for you. And that can only be decided by you.

I do like half and Half, but I can still differentiate Chock Full of Rocks from Tanzanian Peaberry even using half and half.

You are right, not wasting Belvedere with tonic where Smirnoff for 1/3 price does just as well.

There is a definite difference in espresso machines where quality is a true difference maker.

Anything on this list  
beatrixkiddo : 2/2/2023 6:43 pm : link
Is fair game. Lots of good drip brewers out there, lots of garbage too. I’m a pour over guy, Hario, Kalita or Aeropress work great, but a lot of these automatic brewers on this list will produce pretty great cups of coffee too.

https://sca.coffee/certified-home-brewer
But which fast food restaurant serves the best coffee?  
Marty in Albany : 2/2/2023 7:17 pm : link
BK? McD? and the rest of 'em.
RE: But which fast food restaurant serves the best coffee?  
thomasa510 : 2/2/2023 7:32 pm : link
In comment 16023233 Marty in Albany said:
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BK? McD? and the rest of 'em.


Definitely McDonald’s but that’s a recent thing and definitely nothing to write home about.
RE: I’ll bet you my entire brokerage account  
Bill in UT : 2/2/2023 7:33 pm : link
In comment 16023123 mattlawson said:
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That my Miele tastes better than your mister coffee.


Who's gonna be the judge?
RE: Milk & Sugar?  
Bill in UT : 2/2/2023 7:39 pm : link
In comment 16023149 3000_MilesToMeadowlands said:
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If you are doing the milk & sugar thing, then yeah good ole Mr. Coffee (remember the Joe DiMaggio commercials in the 70s?) is fine. If u want good tasting black coffee that you are buying special - probably a higher end option.

It's like if you're going to drink screwdrivers, you use Smirnoff, not Belvedere.


To each his own. I hate Belvedere and like Smirnoff if I'm drinking vodka on the rocks. Like yesterday. But as far as price, yeah, use the less expensive in mixed drinks always, because the taste is going to be overwhelmed.
Mochamaster  
Giant John : 2/2/2023 8:08 pm : link
You won’t be sorry. And it lasts forever.
My wife and I love great coffee  
Beer Man : 2/2/2023 8:56 pm : link
We got the opportunity to experience a Jura while visiting a relative. We got so hooked on the quality and taste that we bought a Jura E6 during the Covid lock down. They are expensive, but they make the best cup of coffee.
RE: Save your money  
BMac : 2/2/2023 9:23 pm : link
In comment 16023097 section125 said:
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and buy a simple Mr Coffee. I am a bit of a coffee snob, too. I've done most decent machines and they cost a lot and are no better than Mr. Coffee.


+++ Coffee equates to the quality beans you use or blend. Start roasting and blending your own before you proclaim yourself a coffee snob. Right now, you're a poseur.
We have had a Bunn for 20 years  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 2/2/2023 11:09 pm : link
Because it heats water hotter, it makes better coffee than typical residential machines. Totally simple procedure. Pour water in, preheated water comes out. Same machine most restaurants use.

There is a reason why it is iconic.
Thanks everyone  
TyreeHelmet : 2/3/2023 9:33 am : link
Will be pulling the trigger on the Moccamaster KBGV select.

Recommend any beans?

RE: We have had a Bunn for 20 years  
rnargi : 2/3/2023 9:38 am : link
In comment 16023468 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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Because it heats water hotter, it makes better coffee than typical residential machines. Totally simple procedure. Pour water in, preheated water comes out. Same machine most restaurants use.

There is a reason why it is iconic.


My brother has one...he's in the business. It indeed makes excellent coffee.
I am not a coffee snob  
aimrocky : 2/3/2023 9:44 am : link
but we upgraded from a Keurig to the Ninja XL DualBrew Coffee Maker during Christmas. We really like it. My wife and I work from home, and we drink 4 cups between the two of us in the morning and I have 1 cup in the afternoon. This allows us to brew a half pot for the morning, then I convert to single cup for the afternoon.
i like my ninja also. mr coffee. yuk.  
nyfootballfan : 2/3/2023 11:06 am : link
re mr. coffee (and bunn) the heated base will burn the crap out of your brew if left for more than a few minutes.
ninja and others have a thermal carafe, better option right there.
for the folks here who love the 'iconic' bunn theres a reason most deli, diner and office coffee is bad, and that's usually it.
RE: i like my ninja also. mr coffee. yuk.  
Jim in Fairfax : 2/3/2023 11:54 am : link
In comment 16023686 nyfootballfan said:
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re mr. coffee (and bunn) the heated base will burn the crap out of your brew if left for more than a few minutes.
ninja and others have a thermal carafe, better option right there.
for the folks here who love the 'iconic' bunn theres a reason most deli, diner and office coffee is bad, and that's usually it.


Mr Coffee has thermal carafe models as well. Not vouching for them - I use Nespresso.
RE: RE: RE: Save your money  
Section331 : 2/3/2023 12:08 pm : link
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and buy a simple Mr Coffee. I am a bit of a coffee snob, too. I've done most decent machines and they cost a lot and are no better than Mr. Coffee.



Really don't think it makes any difference?



None. They all get water to a certain temp and the spray it through the ground beans. The difference is how the beans are ground, course, medium, fine. That you can do yourself.
If you like your coffee stronger you add a little extra. Like it lighte(brown water) you add less. I think this is the key. Adjust the amount of coffee grounds in the bin to your taste and/or the fineness of the grind.

I had the Cuisinart that did the grinding for you, and no matter how I set the grind, it made brown water - weak. The Miele was slightly better.

I think Mr Coffee is $29-$34. You pay about triple for the better brands. And the most I get extra is a timer for when I need to get up early so I can prep it the night before - even then I rarely use it.

Anyway my 2 cents.


Yes it does make a difference. Cheaper coffee makers do not bring water to a boil, which means it is not extracting the most flavor from the grounds. Invest in a good coffeeemaker and you will taste the difference.
Watch this video  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 2/3/2023 12:38 pm : link
James Hoffmann has really improved my knowledge and enjoyment of coffee.


TL:DW; he recommend this OXO coffee makes

https://www.oxo.com/barista-brain-9-cup-coffee-maker.html

I personally use either a French press or AeroPress.
The Best Home Coffee Brewing Machine - ( New Window )
RE: Watch this video  
Jim in Fairfax : 2/3/2023 1:08 pm : link
In comment 16023798 Gary from The East End said:
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James Hoffmann has really improved my knowledge and enjoyment of coffee.


TL:DW; he recommend this OXO coffee makes

https://www.oxo.com/barista-brain-9-cup-coffee-maker.html

I personally use either a French press or AeroPress. The Best Home Coffee Brewing Machine - ( New Window )


James Hoffman is good.

But Hames Joffman is better:
An unhelpful summary - ( New Window )
French press is pretty great  
Dave in PA : 2/3/2023 1:12 pm : link
And easy to use. Problem is you end up using a lot more beans for less coffee, but French press makes outstanding strong coffee
I have  
newjacksm : 2/3/2023 2:01 pm : link
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- Moccamaster KBGV
- Fellow Ode v2 Grinder

It makes great drip coffee, but do you really need to spend 360 dollars? I am not sure... It lets you brew how you like it, which I love.

The Fellow Ode v2 Grinder is pretty fantastic, I am not getting a new one anytime soon.

I would recommend

- Aeropress
- French Press

to go along with your electric coffee machine.

Typically if you want to make a million things on one coffee machine, you should expect it to break more often.

Oh and the beans I get are HappyMug beans!  
newjacksm : 2/3/2023 2:05 pm : link
https://happymugcoffee.com

I have gotten

Traditional Colombia
Ethiopia Yirgacheffe Dumerso Washed
(Any Ethopian coffee they have is fantastic)
Renegade Guatemala

All coffees are great, but my favorite type of coffee is light coffee, so Ethopia is always my go too.
The grinder is where you want to spend your money  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 2/3/2023 2:12 pm : link
I have a Eureka Mignon Filtro and it's very neat. It's all metal and super heavy, like a piece of industrial equipment. I can barely pick it up with one hand.

I looked at the Ode, but a lot of reviews said its finest setting was still pretty coarse and I wanted finer grinds for AeroPress and Moka Pot.
No mention of a Nespresso machine?  
Eman11 : 2/4/2023 11:34 am : link
I’ve had one for two years and absolutely love it. So many different coffees and pod sizes to choose from. Including single shot 1.35 oz, 2.7 oz, 5.5 and 7.7 ozs. Pour over pods also available as is a frother for those who like that.

Makes a smoking hot cup every time and quickly too. All in all the cost of a sleeve of pods is very reasonable. I can make a great cup of a 7.7 oz, any style coffee I want for $1.20.

Free shipping on orders of $35 and over which is for me three sleeves of 10 pods each. Couldn’t recommend this machine more, and not only the many selections of coffee but absolutely great tasting as well.
RE: The grinder is where you want to spend your money  
newjacksm : 2/5/2023 1:17 am : link
In comment 16023928 Gary from The East End said:
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I have a Eureka Mignon Filtro and it's very neat. It's all metal and super heavy, like a piece of industrial equipment. I can barely pick it up with one hand.

I looked at the Ode, but a lot of reviews said its finest setting was still pretty coarse and I wanted finer grinds for AeroPress and Moka Pot.


The Ode you mention is it the v2 or the v1? The v2 I have and does a pretty good job so far at everything other than esspresso. Makes a damn mess, but good. Can't complain at the price.

I didn't get it with the upgraded grinders. But it is seriously seamless and would rec it to anyone that wants one at a cheap price (for a coffee snob).

But curious..

I was at a point do I spend 200 bucks. or blow my load at 1400.

I am an idiot, I would rather take my friends and family out for that price. (if your curious, eureka, they're so nice)
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section125 : 2/5/2023 7:30 am : link
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and buy a simple Mr Coffee. I am a bit of a coffee snob, too. I've done most decent machines and they cost a lot and are no better than Mr. Coffee.



Really don't think it makes any difference?



None. They all get water to a certain temp and the spray it through the ground beans. The difference is how the beans are ground, course, medium, fine. That you can do yourself.
If you like your coffee stronger you add a little extra. Like it lighte(brown water) you add less. I think this is the key. Adjust the amount of coffee grounds in the bin to your taste and/or the fineness of the grind.

I had the Cuisinart that did the grinding for you, and no matter how I set the grind, it made brown water - weak. The Miele was slightly better.

I think Mr Coffee is $29-$34. You pay about triple for the better brands. And the most I get extra is a timer for when I need to get up early so I can prep it the night before - even then I rarely use it.

Anyway my 2 cents.



Yes it does make a difference. Cheaper coffee makers do not bring water to a boil, which means it is not extracting the most flavor from the grounds. Invest in a good coffeeemaker and you will taste the difference.


That is not true. In fact, most beans are not supposed to be used with boiling water. I think, IIRC, that 195/200 deg is about the recommended temp for making coffee. The higher the temp the more bitterness is pulled from the beans.

I have a Breville Precision Brewer  
giantsfaninphilly : 2/5/2023 12:19 pm : link
I love it.
+1 for the jura  
oghwga : 2/5/2023 12:27 pm : link
Although we're temporarily splitting time between two spots and we have a $20 Walmart version of a Keurig that makes an astonishingly good cup for some weird reason. Probably to give me jura regret
Buy a stove top  
LauderdaleMatty : 2/5/2023 1:35 pm : link
Percolator. Of you really love coffee and are willing to wait 15-20 minutes. Sorry no timer and you have to wait but there is literally no other way thst will produce a better result. Anyone telling your Their maker maos it better than slow perked coffee is lying
Any interest in roasting your own coffee?  
D HOS : 2/5/2023 2:56 pm : link
I'm not a coffee snob but I really like to roast, grind and brew my own coffee by hand. It's fun and interesting and I honestly think I get a better outcome than buying coffee and putting into automatic brewer.

It is not fast though, it takes time at every step of the process.

Consider it, it's very rewarding and then you can be an actual coffee snob.
RE: RE: The grinder is where you want to spend your money  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 2/6/2023 9:19 am : link
In comment 16024950 newjacksm said:
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The Ode you mention is it the v2 or the v1? The v2 I have and does a pretty good job so far at everything other than esspresso. Makes a damn mess, but good. Can't complain at the price.

I didn't get it with the upgraded grinders. But it is seriously seamless and would rec it to anyone that wants one at a cheap price (for a coffee snob).

But curious..

I was at a point do I spend 200 bucks. or blow my load at 1400.

I am an idiot, I would rather take my friends and family out for that price. (if your curious, eureka, they're so nice)



I'm not sure which version it was, but a lot of the reviews I looked at said it didn't grind that fine. I know there are replacement burrs you can get for it that let you grind a lot finer, but they were a good amount of money on top of the machine itself.


The grinder I got was about the same price as the Ode, but it's just super analog. There's just a wheel to adjust the grind size and a button to push to grind. You have to hold the button down to keep grinding, there's no timer or anything. The grind adjustment wheel is stepless, but you need to spin it around multiple time to get from super fine to super coarse and there's no way on the device to keep track of how many times you've spun the wheel.


You can spend stupid money on grinders. I've seen ones that are thousands of dollars.


I've always loved coffee, but I really got into it as a hobby during COVID. It's really a lot of fun and I drink most of the coffee I make black now.

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Section331 : 2/6/2023 9:41 am : link
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and buy a simple Mr Coffee. I am a bit of a coffee snob, too. I've done most decent machines and they cost a lot and are no better than Mr. Coffee.



Really don't think it makes any difference?



None. They all get water to a certain temp and the spray it through the ground beans. The difference is how the beans are ground, course, medium, fine. That you can do yourself.
If you like your coffee stronger you add a little extra. Like it lighte(brown water) you add less. I think this is the key. Adjust the amount of coffee grounds in the bin to your taste and/or the fineness of the grind.

I had the Cuisinart that did the grinding for you, and no matter how I set the grind, it made brown water - weak. The Miele was slightly better.

I think Mr Coffee is $29-$34. You pay about triple for the better brands. And the most I get extra is a timer for when I need to get up early so I can prep it the night before - even then I rarely use it.

Anyway my 2 cents.



Yes it does make a difference. Cheaper coffee makers do not bring water to a boil, which means it is not extracting the most flavor from the grounds. Invest in a good coffeeemaker and you will taste the difference.



That is not true. In fact, most beans are not supposed to be used with boiling water. I think, IIRC, that 195/200 deg is about the recommended temp for making coffee. The higher the temp the more bitterness is pulled from the beans.


But most commercial drip machines don’t even get the water to 195. By getting the water to boiling (which is only 7 degrees more than the high end of your range), by the time it gets to the grounds it has cooled off enough to be in the right temp zone. Your coffee maker matters.
RE: Buy a stove top  
HomerJones45 : 2/6/2023 12:10 pm : link
In comment 16025121 LauderdaleMatty said:
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Percolator. Of you really love coffee and are willing to wait 15-20 minutes. Sorry no timer and you have to wait but there is literally no other way thst will produce a better result. Anyone telling your Their maker maos it better than slow perked coffee is lying
Stove top percolator? Geez Matty, does the 15-20 minutes include the time to stoke the wood stove? ;0)
stainless steel French Press  
TJ : 2/6/2023 12:36 pm : link
I also have a manual pour over cone that I set on top of a stainless pot.
One of these days I may buy a technivorm but the small effort needed to use either of the manual methods doesn't bother me. And the coffee is as good as it gets.
Get a bripe  
Jim in Fairfax : 2/6/2023 1:08 pm : link


James Hoffman had a good time making and drinking coffee with a bripe. And just saying the word bripe.


The Most Wonderfully Absurd Coffee Brewer Ever Made - ( New Window )
RE: Technivorm  
BlueHurricane : 2/6/2023 9:03 pm : link
In comment 16023099 thomasa510 said:
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Technivorm Moccamaster

Limited features and no bells and whistles.

The high price (around $300) reflects their investment in a water heater which pours water over grinds consistently and makes a good cup of coffee.

Definitely recommend


This is what we have. Its tremendous.
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