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Xavier McKinney says it's "super imperative"

RELICDOA : 2/3/2023 6:57 pm
that the Giants extend Daniel Jones and Saquon Barkley this offseason (via Ryan Clark on The Pivot Podcast)

Paraphrasing…
Stating they are the captains of the team and both were huge reasons why the Giants were successful. They are a huge part of building towards the future.
Impossible…  
IchabodGiant : 2/3/2023 7:02 pm : link
Don’t believe it. Wait for the brigade….
I’d also like to extend McKinney  
No1MDGiantsFan : 2/3/2023 7:07 pm : link
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That's just players speak eeeh coaches speak  
Blue21 : 2/3/2023 7:23 pm : link
eeeh GM speak eeeehh cause they're friends. What do they know.
I believe him  
Eman11 : 2/3/2023 8:25 pm : link
Maybe even as much in the locker room, and practice as on the field on game days.
Jones and Barkley are the leaders of this team  
Chip : 2/3/2023 8:43 pm : link
If they are not resigned it means ownership does not give a shit and why should the players who will remain bother to care if the owners let the best players walk. It would be a huge mistake if that happens. Barkley and Jones were the heart and soul of the team just like Eli and Strahan.
We're there 9 Captains on the team?  
Bill in UT : 2/3/2023 10:44 pm : link
Schoen will do what he thinks is best for the team. Maybe X can get SB to take $8M a year for 2 years. If it was up to McKinney, Logan Ryan would probably still be here also. Players look thru a small prism, GMs have to see a bigger picture.
RE: Jones and Barkley are the leaders of this team  
PatersonPlank : 2/3/2023 10:48 pm : link
In comment 16024231 Chip said:
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If they are not resigned it means ownership does not give a shit and why should the players who will remain bother to care if the owners let the best players walk. It would be a huge mistake if that happens. Barkley and Jones were the heart and soul of the team just like Eli and Strahan.


Exactly. These guys are the heartbeat of the team. People can just sit around and talk about who has the most talent and who is the best deal, but just as important is the player that make the "team" a team. You can get a different player who is close to the same in talent, but the team will be worse
RE: RE: Jones and Barkley are the leaders of this team  
Mook80 : 2/3/2023 10:56 pm : link
In comment 16024263 PatersonPlank said:
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In comment 16024231 Chip said:


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If they are not resigned it means ownership does not give a shit and why should the players who will remain bother to care if the owners let the best players walk. It would be a huge mistake if that happens. Barkley and Jones were the heart and soul of the team just like Eli and Strahan.



Exactly. These guys are the heartbeat of the team. People can just sit around and talk about who has the most talent and who is the best deal, but just as important is the player that make the "team" a team. You can get a different player who is close to the same in talent, but the team will be worse


Saquon has been on the team for many years now, and this is the first time the team didnt suck shit.

Spare me on how great of leaders both he and Jones are. Did they forget how to be leaders when the team sucked shit?
RE: RE: RE: Jones and Barkley are the leaders of this team  
PatersonPlank : 2/3/2023 11:20 pm : link
In comment 16024264 Mook80 said:
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In comment 16024231 Chip said:


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If they are not resigned it means ownership does not give a shit and why should the players who will remain bother to care if the owners let the best players walk. It would be a huge mistake if that happens. Barkley and Jones were the heart and soul of the team just like Eli and Strahan.



Exactly. These guys are the heartbeat of the team. People can just sit around and talk about who has the most talent and who is the best deal, but just as important is the player that make the "team" a team. You can get a different player who is close to the same in talent, but the team will be worse



Saquon has been on the team for many years now, and this is the first time the team didnt suck shit.

Spare me on how great of leaders both he and Jones are. Did they forget how to be leaders when the team sucked shit?


Yes the old one guy should make a team win argument.
Maybe since there are 22 players on your team our there others matter too? However this doesn't mean they dont need stars or leaders. The analysis that because the team had 15-20 lousy players then the 7 other players must not matter is ridiculous. You keep your winners and build around them
RE: We're there 9 Captains on the team?  
santacruzom : 2/4/2023 4:23 am : link
In comment 16024260 Bill in UT said:
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Schoen will do what he thinks is best for the team. Maybe X can get SB to take $8M a year for 2 years. If it was up to McKinney, Logan Ryan would probably still be here also. Players look thru a small prism, GMs have to see a bigger picture.


Right? If a legend like LeBron James has made so many personnel miscalculations, maybe it's an indication that being a pretty good NFL player doesn't mean much in such matters
He doesn’t know what he is talking about  
Carl in CT : 2/4/2023 4:56 am : link
Cause BBI said so!!!!!
RE: RE: Jones and Barkley are the leaders of this team  
joeinpa : 2/4/2023 7:23 am : link
In comment 16024263 PatersonPlank said:
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In comment 16024231 Chip said:


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If they are not resigned it means ownership does not give a shit and why should the players who will remain bother to care if the owners let the best players walk. It would be a huge mistake if that happens. Barkley and Jones were the heart and soul of the team just like Eli and Strahan.



Exactly. These guys are the heartbeat of the team. People can just sit around and talk about who has the most talent and who is the best deal, but just as important is the player that make the "team" a team. You can get a different player who is close to the same in talent, but the team will be worse


The team went 1-5-1 in the division. There is a ways to go in building this roster. Investing a lot of cap space on a oft injured running back, on a second contract, is not necessarily a must move
RE: RE: RE: Jones and Barkley are the leaders of this team  
section125 : 2/4/2023 7:27 am : link
In comment 16024295 joeinpa said:
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The team went 1-5-1 in the division. There is a ways to go in building this roster. Investing a lot of cap space on a oft injured running back, on a second contract, is not necessarily a must move


Oft injured is kind of a stretch. ACL and a high ankle sprain, serious injuries..he played through the shoulder. There is no doubt the team is better with him than without. Of course, it is number dependent.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/4/2023 7:33 am : link
I'm fine bringing back Saquon as long as it doesn't break the bank. He should be in the $12-$14 million a season range. And he was quoted as saying he's not trying to reset the RB market.
I’m understand that it’s a different situation  
giantBCP : 2/4/2023 7:51 am : link
but the last time we had players petitioning for other players, we ended up with Kenny Golladay.
RE: I’d also like to extend McKinney  
NYDCBlue : 2/4/2023 8:26 am : link
In comment 16024201 No1MDGiantsFan said:
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How about we wait till we can see if he can "extend" his middle finger first? ;)
RE: RE: RE: RE: Jones and Barkley are the leaders of this team  
joeinpa : 2/4/2023 8:50 am : link
In comment 16024296 section125 said:
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The team went 1-5-1 in the division. There is a ways to go in building this roster. Investing a lot of cap space on a oft injured running back, on a second contract, is not necessarily a must move



Oft injured is kind of a stretch. ACL and a high ankle sprain, serious injuries..he played through the shoulder. There is no doubt the team is better with him than without. Of course, it is number dependent.


Section, he missed a lot of time. But my point is, the injuries you refer to, especially the lower body, for a running back, are concerning. He s still very good, and an asset to the team, but he s not the player he once was. Stating it is not a must sign, is not paramount to saying he shouldn’t be signed, just a counter view to the idea he is indispensable
RE: RE: RE: Jones and Barkley are the leaders of this team  
BigBlueShock : 2/4/2023 9:01 am : link
In comment 16024264 Mook80 said:
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If they are not resigned it means ownership does not give a shit and why should the players who will remain bother to care if the owners let the best players walk. It would be a huge mistake if that happens. Barkley and Jones were the heart and soul of the team just like Eli and Strahan.



Exactly. These guys are the heartbeat of the team. People can just sit around and talk about who has the most talent and who is the best deal, but just as important is the player that make the "team" a team. You can get a different player who is close to the same in talent, but the team will be worse



Saquon has been on the team for many years now, and this is the first time the team didnt suck shit.

Spare me on how great of leaders both he and Jones are. Did they forget how to be leaders when the team sucked shit?

I’m leaning towards letting Barkley walk simply because I don’t value RBs all that much but your take here is one I see often on this site and it’s just fucking lazy. Completely asinine. There have been TONS of players over the years that were outstanding players that played on bad teams. The Rams for example were a terrible team for the first three seasons of Aaron Donald’s career. Joe Thomas played on perennial losers in Cleveland. The list goes on and on. Every great player needs pieces around them, I’m not sure why Giants fans hold Barkley to a different standard when it comes to team success. Although it’s almost unanimously guys that have whined about Barkley since the day he was drafted that parrot this idiotic take. And you of course are one of those guys…
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