and his inability to see that ISO ball is not what this team should be doing. When the game was in reach Randle missed a wide open layup and then turned the ball over on the next possession. The we were down 7 game over.
RE: Are we seriously going to blame this on Randle?
and his inability to see that ISO ball is not what this team should be doing. When the game was in reach Randle missed a wide open layup and then turned the ball over on the next possession. The we were down 7 game over.
So what did you want them to do? go to Rj? Hartenstein?
Brunson was being doubled on every possession..
Guve the Clippers and zlue credit, he adjusted going into the ot and took out Zubac, Thibs did not
RE: RE: Are we seriously going to blame this on Randle?
Thibs with his stupid rotations and substitutions; Barrett shooting like Jared Jeffries; Randle choking down the stretch. Maybe I'll just leave at the third quarter.
down the stretch is ISO Randle with his back to the basket 20 feet from the hoop. He has not adjusted despite having a dynamic point guard who can go anywhere he wants on the court with the ball. Fireable offense.
or the lineups or the lack of doing basic things like inbounding a basketball. Coach is awful and needs to go. The personnel is also a problem but a better coach would be getting more out of this group while at the same time not running guys into the ground with 40 minutes a night.
down the stretch is ISO Randle with his back to the basket 20 feet from the hoop. He has not adjusted despite having a dynamic point guard who can go anywhere he wants on the court with the ball. Fireable offense.
Look Thibs is not my favorite coach, but at the end of the 4th thats not what they did..
and in OT they were trying to get Batum off of Brunson but they were doubling so they dumped it to randle..
or the lineups or the lack of doing basic things like inbounding a basketball. Coach is awful and needs to go. The personnel is also a problem but a better coach would be getting more out of this group while at the same time not running guys into the ground with 40 minutes a night.
as soon as you see Batum in at center to start OT and you see how they are guarding Brunson, he should of went to Toppin or Quickley and moved Randle to the 5..
Spread the floor, so when they double, you either get a wide open 3 or a free lane to the hoop..
There is no reason to see Sims and Hartenstein take up all 48 minutes at center
Most things about this team are beyond frustrating.
I think this team would be better with Thibs, RJ, and Randle gone. Why sell Obi for pennies on the dollar but we continually watch Randle fuck up? Thibs should be fired for not having his players foul on that last possession in regulation. Why even let them get a shot off? Barrett was fuckin brutal tonight. The combination doesn't work. Something has to be done but Randle and Thibs cannot be that combo that stays. Thibs encourages Randle's bad habits.
What makes it so hard to believe that a coaching change wouldn't galvanize this team like it did with the Hawks a few years ago? Thibs is costing them game after game after game. This is a direct FUBAR situation with the coaching. He's horrendous.
Say they hired Quin Snyder (and I say Snyder because of the connection with Johnnie Bryant and Walt Perrin). Don't you think he would do a much job with usage of all of these players and actually get some wins out of this team?
This team has holes, yes. RJ is horrendous. Randle is not clutch. It's certainly not a perfect team and that's Leon Rose's fault (who should be on the hot seat), but this team would have a lot more wins in the W column if Thibs knew how to close games and manage his players' playing time better.
I think this team would be better with Thibs, RJ, and Randle gone. Why sell Obi for pennies on the dollar but we continually watch Randle fuck up? Thibs should be fired for not having his players foul on that last possession in regulation. Why even let them get a shot off? Barrett was fuckin brutal tonight. The combination doesn't work. Something has to be done but Randle and Thibs cannot be that combo that stays. Thibs encourages Randle's bad habits.
LOL. I find trading Obi and keeping Randle hilarious, too. That's just Lil' Jimmy doing everything he can to make the playoffs and Leon Rose trying to justify keeping his job.
Randle has legit value. If the Knicks wanted to, they could get a nice haul for him. Instead, let's trade Obi for an expiring contract like Malik Beasley and a backup big role player with no range in Vanderbilt. It's ridiculous.
What makes it so hard to believe that a coaching change wouldn't galvanize this team like it did with the Hawks a few years ago? Thibs is costing them game after game after game. This is a direct FUBAR situation with the coaching. He's horrendous.
Say they hired Quin Snyder (and I say Snyder because of the connection with Johnnie Bryant and Walt Perrin). Don't you think he would do a much job with usage of all of these players and actually get some wins out of this team?
This team has holes, yes. RJ is horrendous. Randle is not clutch. It's certainly not a perfect team and that's Leon Rose's fault (who should be on the hot seat), but this team would have a lot more wins in the W column if Thibs knew how to close games and manage his players' playing time better.
10000000% They should 5 or 6 more wins the way Randle and Brunson are playing
Barrett was -20, Randle -11, Sims -9. Brunson was -5 and everyone else was positive. Brunson was great tonight. But most games in the NBA are close late and we play stupid. Yes, that is coaching but Randle fails time and time again with bad shots and turnovers.
14-14 in games within 5 points with 5 minutes left
but its kind of funny to me, watching tonights game people are blaming Randle for losing late in the game..
Lets not mention he locked down Kawhi the last 5 minutes in the game to allow the Knicks back into the game..
Lets not mention how many great passes he made to open players in the 4th quarter..
Lets not mention the big stop and rebound he had at the end of the game up 1 with 30 seconds left..
Yes he missed a layup and turned the ball over in the ot, in a game he played 40 minutes and played his ass off and had to carry the team with Brunson..
Sorry he got tired in OT, no wonder nobody wants to play here
RE: RE: 14-14 in games within 5 points with 5 minutes left
His defense was always good. His D is horrendous this year. Every year he has made incremental progress on offense. This year he is brutal. All he seems to have is the ability to drive. He either gets passed his man for an easy layup or gets blocked. He is shooting like 31 or 32% from three. He has no mid range shot.
but its kind of funny to me, watching tonights game people are blaming Randle for losing late in the game..
Lets not mention he locked down Kawhi the last 5 minutes in the game to allow the Knicks back into the game..
Lets not mention how many great passes he made to open players in the 4th quarter..
Lets not mention the big stop and rebound he had at the end of the game up 1 with 30 seconds left..
Yes he missed a layup and turned the ball over in the ot, in a game he played 40 minutes and played his ass off and had to carry the team with Brunson..
Sorry he got tired in OT, no wonder nobody wants to play here
I'm not blaming him for the loss. I'm pointing out that hd needs to go imo. He's not a winning player. It's the same story with him. He's still arguing with refs. Why does he need an explanation like this is his first year in the NBA?
I said this during his breakout year with us. I wanted to trade him. We saw what happened in the playoffs. I wanted to move him. The next year he sucked. I was against the grain again saying to hold onto him and build his value back up. His value is not going to be higher. What is best for the Knicks? If that means selling Randle high then you do it. He's not playing second fiddle to anyone with Thibs here. We still see Randle taking last second shots with Thibs. We still see him iso late in games. When you get a star is Randle going to take a back seat? We keep expecting him to be something he isn't. It is time to move on.
Everything a foul now, but only on the Knicks
Yet you refuse to take out Hartenstein because you are stubborn..
Hartenstein shouldnt of even been on the court on that final possession..
Because for some reason Thjbs needed Hartenstein on the court
Barrett is trash
Randle is the worst clutch player in Knicks history
Thibs should be fired
Barrett is trash
Randle is the worst clutch player in Knicks history
Thibs should be fired
What did Randle do? lol
Blame? No. But he's not a clutch player. This has been proven time and time again. He's one of the worst players down the stretch.
So what did you want them to do? go to Rj? Hartenstein?
Brunson was being doubled on every possession..
Guve the Clippers and zlue credit, he adjusted going into the ot and took out Zubac, Thibs did not
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Blame? No. But he's not a clutch player. This has been proven time and time again. He's one of the worst players down the stretch.
Cant argue that, but you have to give him credit because he played great defense on Kawhi
It's like clockwork with this team. Garbage.
Look Thibs is not my favorite coach, but at the end of the 4th thats not what they did..
and in OT they were trying to get Batum off of Brunson but they were doubling so they dumped it to randle..
Gibe the Clippers credit they defended it well..
Clippers ran the same offense on the other end
The coach is dogshit when it comes to rotations
Thibs is just not a good in game coach..
Spread the floor, so when they double, you either get a wide open 3 or a free lane to the hoop..
There is no reason to see Sims and Hartenstein take up all 48 minutes at center
He cant play as the 3rd man, very rarely does he have a good game when Randle and Brunson play well
Say they hired Quin Snyder (and I say Snyder because of the connection with Johnnie Bryant and Walt Perrin). Don't you think he would do a much job with usage of all of these players and actually get some wins out of this team?
This team has holes, yes. RJ is horrendous. Randle is not clutch. It's certainly not a perfect team and that's Leon Rose's fault (who should be on the hot seat), but this team would have a lot more wins in the W column if Thibs knew how to close games and manage his players' playing time better.
Brunson 41 5 boards 7 assists on 14 of 19 shooting.
They were not the problem..
LOL. I find trading Obi and keeping Randle hilarious, too. That's just Lil' Jimmy doing everything he can to make the playoffs and Leon Rose trying to justify keeping his job.
Randle has legit value. If the Knicks wanted to, they could get a nice haul for him. Instead, let's trade Obi for an expiring contract like Malik Beasley and a backup big role player with no range in Vanderbilt. It's ridiculous.
Say they hired Quin Snyder (and I say Snyder because of the connection with Johnnie Bryant and Walt Perrin). Don't you think he would do a much job with usage of all of these players and actually get some wins out of this team?
This team has holes, yes. RJ is horrendous. Randle is not clutch. It's certainly not a perfect team and that's Leon Rose's fault (who should be on the hot seat), but this team would have a lot more wins in the W column if Thibs knew how to close games and manage his players' playing time better.
10000000% They should 5 or 6 more wins the way Randle and Brunson are playing
With Thibs at the helm? I doubt it. He's a bad head coach.
Lets not mention he locked down Kawhi the last 5 minutes in the game to allow the Knicks back into the game..
Lets not mention how many great passes he made to open players in the 4th quarter..
Lets not mention the big stop and rebound he had at the end of the game up 1 with 30 seconds left..
Yes he missed a layup and turned the ball over in the ot, in a game he played 40 minutes and played his ass off and had to carry the team with Brunson..
Sorry he got tired in OT, no wonder nobody wants to play here
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it sucks but if they had Brunson, Mitchell and Randle, Knicks would be a top 3 team in the east
With Thibs at the helm? I doubt it. He's a bad head coach.
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Fire Thibs now. Hire Quin Snyder, Frank Vogel or a fucking trained chimp. Don't care who. Anyone would be better and it may just be temporary.
Fire Leon Rose, WWW, and the rest of the cronies at the end of the season. Move Heaven and Earth to get Masai Ujiri.
And then go forward with Ujiri at the helm.
Lets not mention he locked down Kawhi the last 5 minutes in the game to allow the Knicks back into the game..
Lets not mention how many great passes he made to open players in the 4th quarter..
Lets not mention the big stop and rebound he had at the end of the game up 1 with 30 seconds left..
Yes he missed a layup and turned the ball over in the ot, in a game he played 40 minutes and played his ass off and had to carry the team with Brunson..
Sorry he got tired in OT, no wonder nobody wants to play here
I'm not blaming him for the loss. I'm pointing out that hd needs to go imo. He's not a winning player. It's the same story with him. He's still arguing with refs. Why does he need an explanation like this is his first year in the NBA?
I said this during his breakout year with us. I wanted to trade him. We saw what happened in the playoffs. I wanted to move him. The next year he sucked. I was against the grain again saying to hold onto him and build his value back up. His value is not going to be higher. What is best for the Knicks? If that means selling Randle high then you do it. He's not playing second fiddle to anyone with Thibs here. We still see Randle taking last second shots with Thibs. We still see him iso late in games. When you get a star is Randle going to take a back seat? We keep expecting him to be something he isn't. It is time to move on.
Fire Thibs now. Hire Quin Snyder, Frank Vogel or a fucking trained chimp. Don't care who. Anyone would be better and it may just be temporary.
Fire Leon Rose, WWW, and the rest of the cronies at the end of the season. Move Heaven and Earth to get Masai Ujiri.
And then go forward with Ujiri at the helm.
OR they can move the actual problem with this team and get a player who actually fits with the starters or a star to slide into that spot?
Why are we trading Randle unless your getting a superstsr back?
Agreed. It is bad.