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NFT: Records in any major sport that aren't likely to be broken.

Ira : 2/5/2023 7:37 am
I labelled this NFT even though it includes football - just being careful. One such record is Rickey Henderson's career stolen bases - 1,406. The next highest was Lou Brock's 938 followed by Sliding Billy Hamilton at 914. Hamilton played for the Kansas City Cowboys, Philadelphia Phillies and Boston Beaneaters between 1888 and 1901. Please post your additions .
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Dave Schultz  
pjcas18 : 2/5/2023 9:58 am : link
"The Hammer" 472 Penalty Minutes in one season.

And Dave "Tiger" Williams 3,971 Penalty Minutes in a career.

the game of hockey has changed so much - neither one is in jeopardy of ever being challenged.

and obviously the aforementioned Gretzky points total but his assist total is just as unlikely.
RE: I doubt anyone will win 4 titles in a row again  
LittleBlue : 2/5/2023 10:00 am : link
In comment 16025001 Metnut said:
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like the Islanders did. Too hard with all of the salary caps today.


Are you being hockey specific? I think it’s extremely likely that an NBA team will win 4 in a row in my lifetime.

In just the last 20 years it could easily have been done by the lakers heat or warriors. And of course the bulls before that.
How about the answer to a different question….  
LittleBlue : 2/5/2023 10:04 am : link
Records you once thought would never be broken but are in big danger:

Ovechkin is probably going to top Gretzky’s career goals record.
Johnny Vander Meer  
Enzo : 2/5/2023 10:09 am : link
pitched two consecutive no-hitters. To break it you'd obviously have to throw three consecutive no-hitters. When's the last time a pitcher even threw 3 complete games in a row?
How many nba records is Victor Wembanyama going to break  
Ira : 2/5/2023 10:10 am : link
?
RE: Johnny Vander Meer pitched two consecutive no-hitters  
Trainmaster : 2/5/2023 11:07 am : link
For non career stats, this is the one.

More Cy Young  
Trainmaster : 2/5/2023 11:11 am : link
Maybe some super future pitcher could get over 500 wins, but no one is ever getting the chance to lose 315 games.

Also 826 decisions will never be exceeded.

In terms of baseball records  
allstarjim : 2/5/2023 11:20 am : link
To me, the most untouchable record isn't held by Bonds, not even DiMaggio. Nolan Ryan's 5,714 career strikeouts. 839 more than 2nd place.

The active leader is Verlander, and he's 2,516 behind Ryan.

A pitcher with 2,516 career strikeouts would be 38th on the all-time list. It's about as many strikeouts as Bartolo Colon (2,535).
Records, shmecords, Babe Ruth and Sandy Koufax are still my  
Marty in Albany : 2/5/2023 11:23 am : link
two favorite baseball players.
how about John Wooden for college hoops -  
Del Shofner : 2/5/2023 11:28 am : link
"Among Wooden’s most notable accomplishments at UCLA are two record-winning streaks: 88 consecutive games (over the course of four seasons) and 38 consecutive NCAA tournament games."
RE: More Cy Young  
81_Great_Dane : 2/5/2023 12:05 pm : link
In comment 16025049 Trainmaster said:
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Maybe some super future pitcher could get over 500 wins, but no one is ever getting the chance to lose 315 games.

Also 826 decisions will never be exceeded.
The game is completely different from the game he played. The rules and the diamond are the same, mostly, but the way the game is played is entirely different.

Apples and screwdrivers.
Is this a record?  
Ira : 2/5/2023 12:06 pm : link

RE: MLB pitching records are one.  
bw in dc : 2/5/2023 12:24 pm : link
In comment 16024986 prh said:
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Cy Young 500+ victories and 7000+ innings pitched. With most pitchers today not allowed to pitch to batters the third go around. Those 2 records should hold up in perpetuity.


Agreed. It's the most untouchable record in major team sports.

Assume a super precocious kid was allowed to start pitching at 15 in the MLB. He would have to pitch 25 years, with no health issues, and average 20 wins per season for his career to get to 500 wins.

In other words, you basically have to believe in the Easter Bunny to believe that's possible.

2-0 against Tom Brady  
Giantimistic : 2/5/2023 12:40 pm : link
In the Super Bowl.
Kinda have to distinguish between modern era.....  
MOOPS : 2/5/2023 12:51 pm : link
and the golden era for some MLB records.
Like the Cy Young ironman records or the Bob Gibson 1.12 ERA in 1968.
RE: 2-0 against Tom Brady  
Del Shofner : 2/5/2023 12:51 pm : link
In comment 16025094 Giantimistic said:
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In the Super Bowl.


haha - I like that one!
Rafael Nadal  
theking : 2/5/2023 12:55 pm : link
14 French Open titles.
Brett Maher  
Milton : 2/5/2023 12:59 pm : link
Four missed extra points in a game.
Pete Rose Hit record  
AG5686 : 2/5/2023 1:00 pm : link
4,256 total...
RE: Kenny Golladay's record  
Sec 103 : 2/5/2023 1:02 pm : link
In comment 16024972 Bill in UT said:
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for cost per TD pass caught with the Giants


Thread winner
RE: A few more  
DefenseWins : 2/5/2023 1:04 pm : link
In comment 16024998 Jay on the Island said:
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Wayne Gretzky’s assist record
Martin Brodeur’s win total
Tom Brady’s 7 SB titles


Brodeur has more than just wins. His other records are even more out of reach..

Games played for a goalie = 1266 (next closest active player = 970

Shutouts = 125 (next closest active player = 72)

Saves = 28,928 (Fleury has a chance to catch him with 25,208)
RE: Is this a record?  
Del Shofner : 2/5/2023 1:22 pm : link
In comment 16025076 Ira said:
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Yes.

1. Yogi Berra 1946-1965 10 Yankees: 1947, 1949-1953, 1956, 1958, 1961, 1962
2. Joe DiMaggio 1936-1951 9 Yankees: 1936-1939, 1941, 1947, 1949-1951
3. Bill Dickey 1928-1946 8 Yankees: 1928, 1932, 1936-1939, 1941, 1943
3. Phil Rizzuto 1941-1956 8 Yankees: 1941, 1947, 1949-1953, 1956
3. Frankie Crosetti 1932-1948 8 Yankees: 1932, 1936-1939, 1941, 1943, 1947
3. Lou Gehrig 1923-1939 8 Yankees: 1923, 1927, 1928, 1932, 1936-1939
Complete games pitched  
larryflower37 : 2/5/2023 1:39 pm : link
Cy Young 749
Innings pitched- cy young 7356

Edwin Moses  
GrMtWoods : 2/5/2023 1:44 pm : link
400 meter hurdles. 10 year 107 races.
Jack’s number of majors won  
ThomasG : 2/5/2023 2:07 pm : link
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RE: RE: Kenny Golladay's record  
eric2425ny : 2/5/2023 2:31 pm : link
In comment 16025106 Sec 103 said:
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In comment 16024972 Bill in UT said:


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for cost per TD pass caught with the Giants



Thread winner


Lol, +1
Steve Howe  
Ron from Ninerland : 2/5/2023 2:39 pm : link
8 drug busts/suspensions + getting 1 commissioner fired.

Ain't nobody touching that record.
I'm glad that of all the great Yankee players on all of those great  
Ira : 2/5/2023 3:17 pm : link
teams, Yogi is the one with the most rings.
I never thought  
Carson53 : 2/5/2023 3:22 pm : link
Gehrig's consecutive game streak would be broken, but it was.
I never thought Aaron's home run record would be broken, it was with an asterik...never thought Kareem's career scoring
record would be broken, that's about to happen. I never thought Gretzky's career goals record would be broken,
looks like a very good chance that will happen.
I guess my point is never say never...still don't think Joe D.
will have his hitting streak record broken now, with the game as played today. No one has even reached close to 50 games,
I think Rose got up to 44 one year? Now if someone gets up to 30 games, it seems to be news, but not really, it is something
All pitchers batting records  
steve in ky : 2/5/2023 4:51 pm : link
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Rickey broke Lou Brock's record in a game agains the Yankees  
shyster : 2/5/2023 5:30 pm : link
and I was in the stands. My second favorite moment attending Coliseum games, after the Jeter flip.

Rickey's speech to the crowd is somewhat famous for his "Now, I am the greatest" tag line, but he also made a point of remembering and thanking Billy Martin, who had died two years prior.

"I love you Billy; I wish you was here."

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I'd be extremely surprised if anyone beats Pete Gray and Jim Abbott  
Mad Mike : 2/5/2023 6:30 pm : link
and can play major league baseball having lost more than one arm or hand. It would be similarly surprising to me if anyone can top Wesley Walker and play in the NFL being blind in more than one eye.
Nolan Ryan’s 7 no hitters  
Rick in Dallas : 2/5/2023 7:04 pm : link
….
RE: All pitchers batting records  
Del Shofner : 2/5/2023 10:44 pm : link
In comment 16025232 steve in ky said:
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Good one, hadn't thought of that. I looked up the all time leaders in HRs hit by pitchers. I thought Babe Ruth would be higher but he only hit 14 HRS as a pitcher. Here are the leaders. I guess Ohtani could challenge these guys - but does he hit on days when he pitches?

Wes Ferrell 37
Bob Lemon - Hall of Fame 35
Warren Spahn- Hall of Fame 35
Red Ruffing - Hall of Fame 34]
Earl Wilson 33
Don Drysdale - Hall of Fame 29
John Clarkson - Hall of Fame 24
Bob Gibson - Hall of Fame 24

BTW, these are just their HRs are pitchers. Back in the day most of these guys occasionally pinch-hit as well, and most of them hit at least a couple of HRs pinch-hitting in their career. Those were the days ...
Eli Manning  
fish3321 : 2/5/2023 11:01 pm : link
Undefeated against the patriots in the superbowl
RE: RE: All pitchers batting records  
Del Shofner : 2/5/2023 11:06 pm : link
In comment 16025478 Del Shofner said:
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Good one, hadn't thought of that. I looked up the all time leaders in HRs hit by pitchers. I thought Babe Ruth would be higher but he only hit 14 HRS as a pitcher. Here are the leaders. I guess Ohtani could challenge these guys - but does he hit on days when he pitches?

Wes Ferrell 37
Bob Lemon - Hall of Fame 35
Warren Spahn- Hall of Fame 35
Red Ruffing - Hall of Fame 34]
Earl Wilson 33
John Clarkson - Hall of Fame 24
Bob Gibson - Hall of Fame 24

BTW, these are just their HRs are pitchers. Back in the day most of these guys occasionally pinch-hit as well, and most of them hit at least a couple of HRs pinch-hitting in their career. Those were the days ...


Ohtani has apparently only hit 3 HRs as a pitcher, the rest as a DH or field player. But I guess he could break this record depending on how things go.
RE: Rickey broke Lou Brock's record in a game agains the Yankees  
mitch300 : 2/6/2023 2:12 am : link
In comment 16025252 shyster said:
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and I was in the stands. My second favorite moment attending Coliseum games, after the Jeter flip.

Rickey's speech to the crowd is somewhat famous for his "Now, I am the greatest" tag line, but he also made a point of remembering and thanking Billy Martin, who had died two years prior.

"I love you Billy; I wish you was here." 5/1/91 - ( New Window )

I was there too.
RE: RE: Rickey broke Lou Brock's record in a game agains the Yankees  
shyster : 2/6/2023 6:28 am : link
In comment 16025496 mitch300 said:
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I was there too.


Midweek day game, ducking out of the office. No tracking devices then.
Chamberlain's 100pts scored in a single game  
aquidneck : 2/6/2023 6:39 am : link
Seems pretty safe.

Especially when you consider he did it without 3-pointers.
RE: Chamberlain's 100pts scored in a single game  
section125 : 2/6/2023 7:04 am : link
In comment 16025512 aquidneck said:
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Seems pretty safe.

Especially when you consider he did it without 3-pointers.


How about his 20k women he slept with?
RE: RE: Chamberlain's 100pts scored in a single game  
Victor in CT : 2/6/2023 7:21 am : link
In comment 16025518 section125 said:
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Seems pretty safe.

Especially when you consider he did it without 3-pointers.



How about his 20k women he slept with?


I think that one is safe LOL
Two Mariano Rivera records seem pretty safe  
Greg from LI : 2/6/2023 9:31 am : link
652 career saves....Trevor Hoffman ended up at 601, and #3 is Lee Smith with 478. Active leaders are Craig Kimbrel and Kenley Jansen with 396 and 391 - both are 34 years old already and would have to average 43 saves per season through age 40 to get there. Ain't happening. 952 games finished as well - Mo is almost 100 past Hoffman at #2 and almost 400 games ahead of Jansen, the active leader.
I'm starting to think...  
bw in dc : 2/6/2023 11:18 am : link
hitting .400 is almost impossible where the game is today and the way it is trending with pitching.

It may get to a point where .350 is the new .400.
RE: RE: RE: Chamberlain's 100pts scored in a single game  
gtt350 : 2/6/2023 1:38 pm : link
In comment 16025521 Victor in CT said:
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In comment 16025512 aquidneck said:


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Seems pretty safe.

Especially when you consider he did it without 3-pointers.



How about his 20k women he slept with?



I think that one is safe LOL


Cherl Miller scored 100 points in a game
Joe D's 56 game hitting streak  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 2/6/2023 1:48 pm : link
always stands out on these lists as just the right combination of preposterous but actually possible.

44 - Pete Rose (1978)
38 - Jimmmy Rollins (2006)
35 - Luis Castillo (2002)
35 - Chase Utley (2006)

Rose is the only one who came somewhat close but multiple 35 guys are there. If Castillo can get to 35, maybe the right combination of better talent and luck can get to 56?

It involves so much going your way in terms of 50/50 batted balls, but I don't think it's one of those we can say is impossible in the modern era like a Cy Young/Walter Johnson pitching record.
RE: Chamberlain's 100pts scored in a single game  
Enzo : 2/6/2023 1:58 pm : link
In comment 16025512 aquidneck said:
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Seems pretty safe.

Especially when you consider he did it without 3-pointers.

the 3 point shot is the reason why this one may eventually fall. When Kobe went for 81 he *only* hit 7 threes. Klay Thompson had 37 points in a quarter but only played 33 mins in that game.

Breaking this record would most likely also involve someone simultaneously breaking the record for 3s in a game - and staying in the game long enough to do it.
Frank Gifford's record for TD passes by a non-QB  
Bluenatic : 2/6/2023 3:23 pm : link
Who else is coming out of the backfield to throw 14 touchdowns?
RE: RE: Chamberlain's 100pts scored in a single game  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 2/6/2023 3:41 pm : link
In comment 16025823 Enzo said:
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In comment 16025512 aquidneck said:


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Seems pretty safe.

Especially when you consider he did it without 3-pointers.


the 3 point shot is the reason why this one may eventually fall. When Kobe went for 81 he *only* hit 7 threes. Klay Thompson had 37 points in a quarter but only played 33 mins in that game.

Breaking this record would most likely also involve someone simultaneously breaking the record for 3s in a game - and staying in the game long enough to do it.


I've thought for a long time that Klay Thompson has an actual chance at Wilt because of the 3pt shooting.

Even in Wilt's day, if he scored 70+ then it would typically be a blowout in that team's favor. Wilt scoring 100 was a bit of a sideshow act as both Philly and the Knicks did really stupid shit in that 4th quarter as the game became more about his scoring record than anything since it was a fairly safe Philly 20pt lead late in that one.

The the GOAT NBA scoring performance in my opinion was BY FAR was when Kobe scored 62 in 3 quarters to outscore the Mavs personally 62-61. A Mavs team that would go on to be in the NBA Finals and almost win it all.

An NBA player outscoring the opposing team through 3 quarters is unthinkable, regardless of the quality of the opponent. Kobe's 81 was also a more impressive scoring performance than Wilt's 100 relative to the situation imo.

I've never liked Kobe but that man was mesmerizing when he got hot. I would say he has the 2 most impressive displays of individual volume scoring in league history with context included.

I think Klay or whoever has a better chance at Wilt's 100 than actually outscore an entire team by themselves for 3 quarters.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/6/2023 6:23 pm : link
I could see Wilt's 100 game mark falling. Hell, Spider had 71 last month.
RE: Johnny Vander Meer  
PatersonPlank : 2/6/2023 8:02 pm : link
In comment 16025023 Enzo said:
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pitched two consecutive no-hitters. To break it you'd obviously have to throw three consecutive no-hitters. When's the last time a pitcher even threw 3 complete games in a row?


This is the one. No way it ever gets broken. Need to go another 9 innings of no hit ball
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