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Daily News - Giants interested in Princeton wr Andrei Iosiv

Ira : 2/6/2023 6:20 am
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Andrei Iosivas is an All-American track star for Princeton with a 6.71 60m and a 39-inch vertical at 6-foot-3 and 200 pounds. If you could build the ideal wideout prospect, it’d look something like Iosivas. He’s a guy who can get his in a lot of different ways.

Down the field, Iosivas uses his physicality and speed to separate and has the fluid body control to high-point the ball or release off the defender for the back shoulder ball. On his out-breaking routes, Iosivas displays an innate ability to break his routes without losing any speed, making him a matchup nightmare for corners throughout their entire phase. When Iosivas has the ball in his hands his strength and acceleration make him a threat for chunk yards after the catch and has the hip fluidity and foot speed to make defenders miss. To check the final box, Iosivas’ hands are extremely strong — he finishes through contact really well and attacks the ball in the air.

The only deficiencies I can find in his game is a little stiffness in his bend at the top of his stick and comeback routes. I’d also like to see him be a more competitive and physical blocker on the perimeter.

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I've read that he's 6'3" and runs a 4/29 40. I'm wondering if anyone  
Ira : 2/6/2023 6:22 am : link
here has seen him play and has some comments on his game.
The Athletic wrote an article of top players that helped themselves  
George from PA : 2/6/2023 6:52 am : link
At the Senior Bowl practice.......he was one of them.

From Prineton.....should check the Smart box, from smart, tough and dependable
.....needs to get stronger and improve his release.  
George from PA : 2/6/2023 6:58 am : link
Cluster draft WRs and Corners.

Add a giant OG and DE/DT.

Another LBer and TE.....I would be happy
OK  
DG_89 : 2/6/2023 7:04 am : link
the kid's got size and speed. Questions still need to be answered. Like: 1. How good are his hands. 2. Is he a hands or body catcher? 3. Can he run a full route tree? 4. How well can he handle press coverage? And 5. How fast can he absorb a pro playbook?
I think number 1 was answered in the post  
johnnyb : 2/6/2023 7:24 am : link
and his ability to absorb the playbook should be another box checked. He did go to Princeton. My concern would be level of competition he faced during his college career. But he clearly has the physical tools that cannot be taught- height, weight and speed.
RE: OK  
Ira : 2/6/2023 7:25 am : link
In comment 16025517 DG_89 said:
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the kid's got size and speed. Questions still need to be answered. Like: 1. How good are his hands. 2. Is he a hands or body catcher? 3. Can he run a full route tree? 4. How well can he handle press coverage? And 5. How fast can he absorb a pro playbook?


All good questions. On the pro playbook, he did go to Princeton, so he should be able to handle that.
Btw, his last name is Iosivas, not Iosiv. Sorry for the mistake  
Ira : 2/6/2023 7:26 am : link
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mfjmfj : 2/6/2023 7:34 am : link
In comment 16025523 Ira said:
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In comment 16025517 DG_89 said:


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the kid's got size and speed. Questions still need to be answered. Like: 1. How good are his hands. 2. Is he a hands or body catcher? 3. Can he run a full route tree? 4. How well can he handle press coverage? And 5. How fast can he absorb a pro playbook?



All good questions. On the pro playbook, he did go to Princeton, so he should be able to handle that.


Generally true, but not always. I went Ivy and was never able to master the playbook in high school. As an OL. Our QB on our state championship team had no problem with the playbook (which despite being high school ball was quite complicated). He was not bright at all in terms of school work. Sometime a strong kinesthetic sense, or lack thereof, can outweigh general intelligence. In some sense DJ is an example of this. DJ is clearly a very bright guy. Yet processing speed seems to be the biggest negative on him.
Why  
mdthedream : 2/6/2023 7:39 am : link
would the Giants tell everyone who they want?
Bobby Skinner  
Hilary : 2/6/2023 7:43 am : link
Senior bowl review mentioned his size and speed but said
he could not separate from press corners
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stoneman : 2/6/2023 7:52 am : link
In comment 16025527 Hilary said:
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Senior bowl review mentioned his size and speed but said
he could not separate from press corners


I read the same - no separation, just size and straight line speed.
That's perfectly fine.  
robbieballs2003 : 2/6/2023 8:08 am : link
That is what Daboll has showed is that he can scheme up ways to get guys separation so they csn run after the catch. Obviously you want a guy that can do it himself but as a late round pick, these are guys you target.
The kid is a track athlete, holds the ivy record in  
Spider56 : 2/6/2023 8:12 am : link
the heptathlon and NCAA indoor record in the 60. I doubt he needed separation skills to excel at Princeton. Can this be taught? He’s from Hawaii and is studying finance and geopolitics. This is what the Sr Bowl is for… give an opportunity to under the radar guys.
RE: The kid is a track athlete, holds the ivy record in  
robbieballs2003 : 2/6/2023 8:18 am : link
In comment 16025541 Spider56 said:
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the heptathlon and NCAA indoor record in the 60. I doubt he needed separation skills to excel at Princeton. Can this be taught? He’s from Hawaii and is studying finance and geopolitics. This is what the Sr Bowl is for… give an opportunity to under the radar guys.


It definitely can be taught. Look at Hodgins. He's not all that quick but he credits his route running from Diggs and Davis and it is definitely a skill that can be learned.
I just watched a quick highlight video of him.  
robbieballs2003 : 2/6/2023 8:27 am : link
Two things. One, the track speed doesn't show up. He always has guys on him. That tells me he is either slower than projected especially against the level of competition or that he really needs a ton of work on his route running. It could be just that.

Two, he can't be that smart. He doesn't wear gloves. Lol. I'm curious to hear about his hand to see his drop rate. Almost all WRs wear gloves now. I'm curious why he doesn't.
Highlights  
Professor Falken : 2/6/2023 8:45 am : link
Well, he's got the potential for a good nickname already.
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Maybe  
Sammo85 : 2/6/2023 8:54 am : link
As an undrafted free agent.
People inside the Giants talk to the media  
JonC : 2/6/2023 9:12 am : link
the constant examples are endless, info gets out.
Like his hands and size  
cosmicj : 2/6/2023 9:15 am : link
But he was having problems getting separation against Ivy League DBs. He reminds me of that UConn WR we drafted in the 5th a few years ago.

A day 3 pick if they like him.
The ‘Giants interest’ is just click bait. I suspect the Giants are  
Ivan15 : 2/6/2023 9:16 am : link
Interested in every successful football athlete, especially WRs, in the NY-NJ area. They get a free visit with them. It isn’t like it will be difficult to get them to the building.

Writing a piece about Iosivas is acknowledgement of his talent. Connecting the dots to the Giants just gets more local interest.
WR with a hockey player name?  
Chris684 : 2/6/2023 9:31 am : link
What can go wrong?

j/k of course.
Article informing of possible interest  
Bob in Newburgh : 2/6/2023 9:32 am : link
could have been written by any somewhat literate person having access to a list showing details of height, weight, and estimated 40 time.
"Interest" could easily come from multiple things  
blueblood : 2/6/2023 10:36 am : link
Teams interview players at the Senior Bowl. People will know who talked to who. If the Giants had an interview scheduled "Giants show interest"

Teams and coaches stand around when players have drills. So lets say Daboll and Kafka were standing nearby when he was doing drills. That gets reported as
" Giants show interested "

Agents of players talk to reporters. Agent makes it known
" Giants have shown interest"

Like I remember a report that  
blueblood : 2/6/2023 10:39 am : link
Joe Schoen was watching Isaiah Foskey from Notre Dame's drills...

" Giants show interest in Isaiah Foskey " could easily be reported.
RE: Highlights  
jhibb : 2/6/2023 10:54 am : link
In comment 16025558 Professor Falken said:
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Well, he's got the potential for a good nickname already.
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He doesn't look all that fast on the field, considering the competition level.
Track and Field sometimes doesn't translate  
MeanBunny : 2/6/2023 2:36 pm : link
Sounds like he plays football and has some scouting checkmarks. Track being a straightahead/no cut discipline, will not translate all that great so I wouldn't look at absolute speed as a metric as the biggest factor. IE: Ernest Gray in 70's. Was always open and always dropping dimes from Simms/ Brunner
His play speed is not track speed  
Rudy5757 : 2/6/2023 4:48 pm : link
some guys play faster and some play slower. In this case he plays slow. Early on he would need to be a motion or off ball WR. Can he learn how to do it yes, but there are plenty of guys with speed that never made it in the NFL. Speed will always get chances though. If you just watch him without knowing his track numbers you wouldnt think he is fast if that makes sense.
Victor Cruz went to UMass  
MeanBunny : 2/6/2023 5:00 pm : link
Not exactly a big 10 school. Some of this is going to be Daboll's propensity to prefer smarter players who understand the routes, blocks and set ups to the schemes. Making good decisions. Probably why Toney was out of favor immediately. Bad attitude and stupid as a brick.
I think I prefer going to the draft on WRs as opposed to getting a pricey free agent when DJ and Saquon are going to redestroy the cap
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