We stop acting like bobby skinner is qualified to evaluate these players? He has the credibility of your average bbi poster.
Right? I listen to Talkin Giants, but I sometimes struggle to really believe anything he says. He played Oline in college and now he's some super scout?
We stop acting like bobby skinner is qualified to evaluate these players? He has the credibility of your average bbi poster.
He doesn’t claim to be a super scout. Take him for what he is but whether you like him or not saying he has the credibility of your average BBIer is comical. He breaks down more film than anyone on this site with the exception of Sy. I understand that many don’t like him and it’s mainly because he’s not a professional scout. But you don’t have to be a professional scout to know what the hell you’re looking at. When you spend as much time as he does and you have the balls to share your breakdowns and opinions on the internet for the entire world to criticize, please let us know. I’d love to get a laugh out of that
We stop acting like bobby skinner is qualified to evaluate these players? He has the credibility of your average bbi poster.
He doesn’t claim to be a super scout. Take him for what he is but whether you like him or not saying he has the credibility of your average BBIer is comical. He breaks down more film than anyone on this site with the exception of Sy. I understand that many don’t like him and it’s mainly because he’s not a professional scout. But you don’t have to be a professional scout to know what the hell you’re looking at. When you spend as much time as he does and you have the balls to share your breakdowns and opinions on the internet for the entire world to criticize, please let us know. I’d love to get a laugh out of that
You get really passionate at really odd times shock lol. Lay down your sword, brave white knight! King Skinner has been saved!
We stop acting like bobby skinner is qualified to evaluate these players? He has the credibility of your average bbi poster.
He doesn’t claim to be a super scout. Take him for what he is but whether you like him or not saying he has the credibility of your average BBIer is comical. He breaks down more film than anyone on this site with the exception of Sy. I understand that many don’t like him and it’s mainly because he’s not a professional scout. But you don’t have to be a professional scout to know what the hell you’re looking at. When you spend as much time as he does and you have the balls to share your breakdowns and opinions on the internet for the entire world to criticize, please let us know. I’d love to get a laugh out of that
You get really passionate at really odd times shock lol. Lay down your sword, brave white knight! King Skinner has been saved!
Sorry, I don’t suffer fools well. And I will absolutely let you know when you’re being a fool. Nothing to do with Skinner. I barely watch his stuff. Only on occasion when someone posts something here. This is 100% about YOU.
We stop acting like bobby skinner is qualified to evaluate these players? He has the credibility of your average bbi poster.
He doesn’t claim to be a super scout. Take him for what he is but whether you like him or not saying he has the credibility of your average BBIer is comical. He breaks down more film than anyone on this site with the exception of Sy. I understand that many don’t like him and it’s mainly because he’s not a professional scout. But you don’t have to be a professional scout to know what the hell you’re looking at. When you spend as much time as he does and you have the balls to share your breakdowns and opinions on the internet for the entire world to criticize, please let us know. I’d love to get a laugh out of that
You get really passionate at really odd times shock lol. Lay down your sword, brave white knight! King Skinner has been saved!
Sorry, I don’t suffer fools well. And I will absolutely let you know when you’re being a fool. Nothing to do with Skinner. I barely watch his stuff. Only on occasion when someone posts something here. This is 100% about YOU.
LMAOOO you are such a blowhard man. I feel bad for anyone you come into contact with.
I only follow Bobby on twitter, sometimes watch a film thing...but not really a podcast listener.
We don't have to complain like we should act like his word is the bible.....it's implied that his word is not the bible, that he is not a scout, and he does not know best.
He's just a guy with more time on his hands than most of BBI to actually go to the senior bowl, watch all 22's, more film , etc.
I take his opinion as that, someone with more time than me but an NFL scout by any means. I dont think i read anything on any subject on any website as the end all be all.
Saying, his opinion is just like any one elses!.........you're explaining what opinions are. lol
Not an NFL scout. NFL scouts
Some good some not so good
Pro scouts picked Zach Wilson #2
and Josh Rosen before Lamar Jackson.
What about Erick Flowers. Eli Apple and DeAndre
Baker by big blue pro scouts.
Sy does not work for the NFL but most of us
enjoy his reports.
Bobby is able to make a living doing something
he enjoys. He backs his opinions up with film breakdowns on
Talkin Giants and jm football.
the OL report (that's his area of expertise). Otherwise he's essentially a fan like the rest of us, with the exception having played the game, he has a better idea what he's looking at on tape. Pennick is just another internet talking head. Knows nothing.
I’ve been watching Talkin Giants more and more lately…
Really because it’s more “real” to me than some of the other options for Giants news/breakdowns. I take it like some normal Giants fans taking shit. Justin is like that Giants fan you find annoying but he’s “our” annoying Giants fan. Bobby has pretty good OL film breakdown and has some good takes.
I would rather listen to them, instead of Stephen A and all those kinda blowhards haha
If you take his word as Bible that's silly, and if you think he is merely an uneducated fan that is also silly. He is a fan that watches a ton of film, and puts out a podcast that will actually be critical of the Giants when they deserve it (unlike stooges like Dottino). He knows a lot about O-Line and D-Line and is easy to listen to.
Pennick fucking sucks though. I wish Bobby had a better co-host. I often times turn the volume down when Pennick is going on a whiny rant or ejaculating about "explosive plays". He is terrible radio.
Before the conversation devolves in typical BBI fashion. Why are so many on this board so angry?
I don't think anyone is angry. More so that the conversation just turned into a subject some posters are more passionate about.
IMHO it’s a shame more posters are passionate about who brings up a topic than the topic itself.
Pointing out who isn’t a reliable source in reference to bringing up a new prospect for discussion is almost as interesting as input by the grammar police. Although “dominate vs dominant” and “try and” instead of “try to” does irk me a bit.
Before the conversation devolves in typical BBI fashion. Why are so many on this board so angry?
I don't think anyone is angry. More so that the conversation just turned into a subject some posters are more passionate about.
IMHO it’s a shame more posters are passionate about who brings up a topic than the topic itself.
Pointing out who isn’t a reliable source in reference to bringing up a new prospect for discussion is almost as interesting as input by the grammar police. Although “dominate vs dominant” and “try and” instead of “try to” does irk me a bit.
Oh, I agree. This time of year I am mostly trying to catch up on prospects for the draft too. And, yeah this thread probably got hijacked a bit. Apologies, as I contributed to that too. But, with the season over for us Giants fans, I guess we still need to find things to rile us up!
If the staff feels confident they can significantly find upgrades at a position on days 2 and 3, it frees them up a bit to go BPA in round 1 where there might be more of a drop off at another position.
I’m curious, how likely do posters feel that a CB drafted this year will step right in to a starting roll this year? For a day 1 pick? day 2? Or is it more likely they play behind returning players like Robinson, Flott or any of the possible returning FAs like Moreau, McCloud, etc.?
And I guess the same can be asked for other draftees at other positions this year. At which positions would you expect them to be more likely to start, or need a year of development and experience in a backup role?
If the staff feels confident they can significantly find upgrades at a position on days 2 and 3, it frees them up a bit to go BPA in round 1 where there might be more of a drop off at another position.
I’m curious, how likely do posters feel that a CB drafted this year will step right in to a starting roll this year? For a day 1 pick? day 2? Or is it more likely they play behind returning players like Robinson, Flott or any of the possible returning FAs like Moreau, McCloud, etc.?
And I guess the same can be asked for other draftees at other positions this year. At which positions would you expect them to be more likely to start, or need a year of development and experience in a backup role?
I think if you draft a CB round 1 you pretty much expect him to start. 2nd round maybe 50/50 but be a solid contributor at least. 3rd round probably not.
If the staff feels confident they can significantly find upgrades at a position on days 2 and 3, it frees them up a bit to go BPA in round 1 where there might be more of a drop off at another position.
I’m curious, how likely do posters feel that a CB drafted this year will step right in to a starting roll this year? For a day 1 pick? day 2? Or is it more likely they play behind returning players like Robinson, Flott or any of the possible returning FAs like Moreau, McCloud, etc.?
And I guess the same can be asked for other draftees at other positions this year. At which positions would you expect them to be more likely to start, or need a year of development and experience in a backup role?
I think if you draft a CB round 1 you pretty much expect him to start. 2nd round maybe 50/50 but be a solid contributor at least. 3rd round probably not.
Bill, do you feel the same way at other positions as well? Ones where you expect better than 50/50 of 2nd rounder to start for example?
During our GM search. I watched his Youtube video breaking down Schoen and why he would be a good fit. That was fantastic. His broadcasting skills are rough, and he needs to be a little more confident in himself. A recent episode he kept dropping that he's going to the super bowl in ways that felt like he was bragging.. and bobby was like "cool".
They are definitely amatuer hour, but I do like the ground level fan talk they have, and I sometimes appreciate their takes. It's a good balance between them and Big Blue Banter who is all tape analysis and less fan chat. Sprinkle in a Breaking Big Blue from Jordan Ranaan and Big Blue Crush with Lawrence Tynes and Paul Schwartz and you have decent mix of coverage from all different angles.
RE: Justin Pennik did a great job researching Schoen
During our GM search. I watched his Youtube video breaking down Schoen and why he would be a good fit. That was fantastic. His broadcasting skills are rough, and he needs to be a little more confident in himself. A recent episode he kept dropping that he's going to the super bowl in ways that felt like he was bragging.. and bobby was like "cool".
They are definitely amatuer hour, but I do like the ground level fan talk they have, and I sometimes appreciate their takes. It's a good balance between them and Big Blue Banter who is all tape analysis and less fan chat. Sprinkle in a Breaking Big Blue from Jordan Ranaan and Big Blue Crush with Lawrence Tynes and Paul Schwartz and you have decent mix of coverage from all different angles.
Justin is young so I may be being hard on him, but he just has so many bad takes that he sticks to. Special teams doesn’t matter. Running backs aren’t valuable. Cornerbacks are boring. Idk. And he does this snort laugh which just grinds me for whatever reason and just makes for bad listening. I like Bobby and I like that they have been getting really interesting guests on there. Maybe Justin will get better, but he is the weakest part of the show by far.
If the staff feels confident they can significantly find upgrades at a position on days 2 and 3, it frees them up a bit to go BPA in round 1 where there might be more of a drop off at another position.
I’m curious, how likely do posters feel that a CB drafted this year will step right in to a starting roll this year? For a day 1 pick? day 2? Or is it more likely they play behind returning players like Robinson, Flott or any of the possible returning FAs like Moreau, McCloud, etc.?
And I guess the same can be asked for other draftees at other positions this year. At which positions would you expect them to be more likely to start, or need a year of development and experience in a backup role?
I think if you draft a CB round 1 you pretty much expect him to start. 2nd round maybe 50/50 but be a solid contributor at least. 3rd round probably not.
Bill, do you feel the same way at other positions as well? Ones where you expect better than 50/50 of 2nd rounder to start for example?
You know looking back at our 2nd round picks its way better than 50/50. Wan'Dale, Ojulari, McKinney, Hernandez, Tomlinson, Shepard, Richberg, Hankins.
We stop acting like bobby skinner is qualified to evaluate these players? He has the credibility of your average bbi poster.
He doesn’t claim to be a super scout. Take him for what he is but whether you like him or not saying he has the credibility of your average BBIer is comical. He breaks down more film than anyone on this site with the exception of Sy. I understand that many don’t like him and it’s mainly because he’s not a professional scout. But you don’t have to be a professional scout to know what the hell you’re looking at. When you spend as much time as he does and you have the balls to share your breakdowns and opinions on the internet for the entire world to criticize, please let us know. I’d love to get a laugh out of that
You get really passionate at really odd times shock lol. Lay down your sword, brave white knight! King Skinner has been saved!
Watched all of Skinner's stuff, we'd have a much more football educated board.
He's good. He's not the end all, but he's good.
As for year one CB's, depends on the guy.
My guy last year, Sauce Gardner, as a rookie, was arguably the best corner in football this year.
I wouldn't expect that from anyone this year, because he was my favorite CB prospect since Jalen Ramsey. But certainly you can have an expectation for a CB, even one drafted in the 2nd round, to contribute and play well year one.
Right? I listen to Talkin Giants, but I sometimes struggle to really believe anything he says. He played Oline in college and now he's some super scout?
He doesn’t claim to be a super scout. Take him for what he is but whether you like him or not saying he has the credibility of your average BBIer is comical. He breaks down more film than anyone on this site with the exception of Sy. I understand that many don’t like him and it’s mainly because he’s not a professional scout. But you don’t have to be a professional scout to know what the hell you’re looking at. When you spend as much time as he does and you have the balls to share your breakdowns and opinions on the internet for the entire world to criticize, please let us know. I’d love to get a laugh out of that
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We stop acting like bobby skinner is qualified to evaluate these players? He has the credibility of your average bbi poster.
He doesn’t claim to be a super scout. Take him for what he is but whether you like him or not saying he has the credibility of your average BBIer is comical. He breaks down more film than anyone on this site with the exception of Sy. I understand that many don’t like him and it’s mainly because he’s not a professional scout. But you don’t have to be a professional scout to know what the hell you’re looking at. When you spend as much time as he does and you have the balls to share your breakdowns and opinions on the internet for the entire world to criticize, please let us know. I’d love to get a laugh out of that
You get really passionate at really odd times shock lol. Lay down your sword, brave white knight! King Skinner has been saved!
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We stop acting like bobby skinner is qualified to evaluate these players? He has the credibility of your average bbi poster.
He doesn’t claim to be a super scout. Take him for what he is but whether you like him or not saying he has the credibility of your average BBIer is comical. He breaks down more film than anyone on this site with the exception of Sy. I understand that many don’t like him and it’s mainly because he’s not a professional scout. But you don’t have to be a professional scout to know what the hell you’re looking at. When you spend as much time as he does and you have the balls to share your breakdowns and opinions on the internet for the entire world to criticize, please let us know. I’d love to get a laugh out of that
You get really passionate at really odd times shock lol. Lay down your sword, brave white knight! King Skinner has been saved!
Sorry, I don’t suffer fools well. And I will absolutely let you know when you’re being a fool. Nothing to do with Skinner. I barely watch his stuff. Only on occasion when someone posts something here. This is 100% about YOU.
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In comment 16025623 Straw Hat said:
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We stop acting like bobby skinner is qualified to evaluate these players? He has the credibility of your average bbi poster.
He doesn’t claim to be a super scout. Take him for what he is but whether you like him or not saying he has the credibility of your average BBIer is comical. He breaks down more film than anyone on this site with the exception of Sy. I understand that many don’t like him and it’s mainly because he’s not a professional scout. But you don’t have to be a professional scout to know what the hell you’re looking at. When you spend as much time as he does and you have the balls to share your breakdowns and opinions on the internet for the entire world to criticize, please let us know. I’d love to get a laugh out of that
You get really passionate at really odd times shock lol. Lay down your sword, brave white knight! King Skinner has been saved!
Sorry, I don’t suffer fools well. And I will absolutely let you know when you’re being a fool. Nothing to do with Skinner. I barely watch his stuff. Only on occasion when someone posts something here. This is 100% about YOU.
LMAOOO you are such a blowhard man. I feel bad for anyone you come into contact with.
Why don't you just tell us why he's wrong?
I only follow Bobby on twitter, sometimes watch a film thing...but not really a podcast listener.
We don't have to complain like we should act like his word is the bible.....it's implied that his word is not the bible, that he is not a scout, and he does not know best.
He's just a guy with more time on his hands than most of BBI to actually go to the senior bowl, watch all 22's, more film , etc.
I take his opinion as that, someone with more time than me but an NFL scout by any means. I dont think i read anything on any subject on any website as the end all be all.
Saying, his opinion is just like any one elses!.........you're explaining what opinions are. lol
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We stop acting like bobby skinner is qualified to evaluate these players? He has the credibility of your average bbi poster.
Why don't you just tell us why he's wrong?
I’m not saying he is wrong. I just think its weird so many people on BBI and other places use his opinion to add strength to a claim. He’s just a fan.
Some good some not so good
Pro scouts picked Zach Wilson #2
and Josh Rosen before Lamar Jackson.
What about Erick Flowers. Eli Apple and DeAndre
Baker by big blue pro scouts.
Sy does not work for the NFL but most of us
enjoy his reports.
Bobby is able to make a living doing something
he enjoys. He backs his opinions up with film breakdowns on
Talkin Giants and jm football.
I would rather listen to them, instead of Stephen A and all those kinda blowhards haha
Pennick fucking sucks though. I wish Bobby had a better co-host. I often times turn the volume down when Pennick is going on a whiny rant or ejaculating about "explosive plays". He is terrible radio.
I don't think anyone is angry. More so that the conversation just turned into a subject some posters are more passionate about.
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Before the conversation devolves in typical BBI fashion. Why are so many on this board so angry?
I don't think anyone is angry. More so that the conversation just turned into a subject some posters are more passionate about.
IMHO it’s a shame more posters are passionate about who brings up a topic than the topic itself.
Pointing out who isn’t a reliable source in reference to bringing up a new prospect for discussion is almost as interesting as input by the grammar police. Although “dominate vs dominant” and “try and” instead of “try to” does irk me a bit.
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Before the conversation devolves in typical BBI fashion. Why are so many on this board so angry?
I don't think anyone is angry. More so that the conversation just turned into a subject some posters are more passionate about.
IMHO it’s a shame more posters are passionate about who brings up a topic than the topic itself.
Pointing out who isn’t a reliable source in reference to bringing up a new prospect for discussion is almost as interesting as input by the grammar police. Although “dominate vs dominant” and “try and” instead of “try to” does irk me a bit.
Oh, I agree. This time of year I am mostly trying to catch up on prospects for the draft too. And, yeah this thread probably got hijacked a bit. Apologies, as I contributed to that too. But, with the season over for us Giants fans, I guess we still need to find things to rile us up!
I’m curious, how likely do posters feel that a CB drafted this year will step right in to a starting roll this year? For a day 1 pick? day 2? Or is it more likely they play behind returning players like Robinson, Flott or any of the possible returning FAs like Moreau, McCloud, etc.?
And I guess the same can be asked for other draftees at other positions this year. At which positions would you expect them to be more likely to start, or need a year of development and experience in a backup role?
I’m curious, how likely do posters feel that a CB drafted this year will step right in to a starting roll this year? For a day 1 pick? day 2? Or is it more likely they play behind returning players like Robinson, Flott or any of the possible returning FAs like Moreau, McCloud, etc.?
And I guess the same can be asked for other draftees at other positions this year. At which positions would you expect them to be more likely to start, or need a year of development and experience in a backup role?
I think if you draft a CB round 1 you pretty much expect him to start. 2nd round maybe 50/50 but be a solid contributor at least. 3rd round probably not.
There is increasingly a level of immaturity on BBI that diminishes it for those wanting dialogue without getting involved in personal attacks.
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If the staff feels confident they can significantly find upgrades at a position on days 2 and 3, it frees them up a bit to go BPA in round 1 where there might be more of a drop off at another position.
I’m curious, how likely do posters feel that a CB drafted this year will step right in to a starting roll this year? For a day 1 pick? day 2? Or is it more likely they play behind returning players like Robinson, Flott or any of the possible returning FAs like Moreau, McCloud, etc.?
And I guess the same can be asked for other draftees at other positions this year. At which positions would you expect them to be more likely to start, or need a year of development and experience in a backup role?
I think if you draft a CB round 1 you pretty much expect him to start. 2nd round maybe 50/50 but be a solid contributor at least. 3rd round probably not.
Bill, do you feel the same way at other positions as well? Ones where you expect better than 50/50 of 2nd rounder to start for example?
They are definitely amatuer hour, but I do like the ground level fan talk they have, and I sometimes appreciate their takes. It's a good balance between them and Big Blue Banter who is all tape analysis and less fan chat. Sprinkle in a Breaking Big Blue from Jordan Ranaan and Big Blue Crush with Lawrence Tynes and Paul Schwartz and you have decent mix of coverage from all different angles.
They are definitely amatuer hour, but I do like the ground level fan talk they have, and I sometimes appreciate their takes. It's a good balance between them and Big Blue Banter who is all tape analysis and less fan chat. Sprinkle in a Breaking Big Blue from Jordan Ranaan and Big Blue Crush with Lawrence Tynes and Paul Schwartz and you have decent mix of coverage from all different angles.
Justin is young so I may be being hard on him, but he just has so many bad takes that he sticks to. Special teams doesn’t matter. Running backs aren’t valuable. Cornerbacks are boring. Idk. And he does this snort laugh which just grinds me for whatever reason and just makes for bad listening. I like Bobby and I like that they have been getting really interesting guests on there. Maybe Justin will get better, but he is the weakest part of the show by far.
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If the staff feels confident they can significantly find upgrades at a position on days 2 and 3, it frees them up a bit to go BPA in round 1 where there might be more of a drop off at another position.
I’m curious, how likely do posters feel that a CB drafted this year will step right in to a starting roll this year? For a day 1 pick? day 2? Or is it more likely they play behind returning players like Robinson, Flott or any of the possible returning FAs like Moreau, McCloud, etc.?
And I guess the same can be asked for other draftees at other positions this year. At which positions would you expect them to be more likely to start, or need a year of development and experience in a backup role?
I think if you draft a CB round 1 you pretty much expect him to start. 2nd round maybe 50/50 but be a solid contributor at least. 3rd round probably not.
Bill, do you feel the same way at other positions as well? Ones where you expect better than 50/50 of 2nd rounder to start for example?
You know looking back at our 2nd round picks its way better than 50/50. Wan'Dale, Ojulari, McKinney, Hernandez, Tomlinson, Shepard, Richberg, Hankins.
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We stop acting like bobby skinner is qualified to evaluate these players? He has the credibility of your average bbi poster.
He doesn’t claim to be a super scout. Take him for what he is but whether you like him or not saying he has the credibility of your average BBIer is comical. He breaks down more film than anyone on this site with the exception of Sy. I understand that many don’t like him and it’s mainly because he’s not a professional scout. But you don’t have to be a professional scout to know what the hell you’re looking at. When you spend as much time as he does and you have the balls to share your breakdowns and opinions on the internet for the entire world to criticize, please let us know. I’d love to get a laugh out of that
You get really passionate at really odd times shock lol. Lay down your sword, brave white knight! King Skinner has been saved!
Well, he's right.
He's good. He's not the end all, but he's good.
As for year one CB's, depends on the guy.
My guy last year, Sauce Gardner, as a rookie, was arguably the best corner in football this year.
I wouldn't expect that from anyone this year, because he was my favorite CB prospect since Jalen Ramsey. But certainly you can have an expectation for a CB, even one drafted in the 2nd round, to contribute and play well year one.