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Knickstape : 2/7/2023 7:16 pm
Coming off a sixers win. Really hope the Knicks don’t lay a dud. The magic aren’t bad. But this should be a winnable game
Rj already forcing  
Knickstape : 2/7/2023 7:17 pm : link
Annoying
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/7/2023 7:19 pm : link
I watched a little of Magic Wolves last week...Fultz has found a role in the league.
Eh  
BigBlueShock : 2/7/2023 7:19 pm : link
MGic are 10 games under .500. I think that qualifies as “bad”. And I fully expect them to beat the Knicks. We aren’t allowed to be happy for too long
Magic started 5-20 on the season  
bceagle05 : 2/7/2023 7:21 pm : link
and have been playing winning basketball for a while. Gonna need to wake up here.
They are doubling Brunson  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2023 7:21 pm : link
everytime he runs a pick and roll, there has to be a guy open
Rj is lost defensively  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2023 7:25 pm : link
jist standing around as his guy gets a wide open dunk
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/7/2023 7:26 pm : link
Man, Barrett sucks RN.
Must be nice to get those cheap whistles.  
bceagle05 : 2/7/2023 7:35 pm : link
Not sure why IQ didn’t get the same one on the previous possession.
So Hartenstein is backing up  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2023 7:41 pm : link
Arms out and Wagner initiates all the contact, thats a foul, but Anthony is allowed to push and shove Mcbride all the way up the court..
The ball is supposed to go through the hoop, RJ.  
bceagle05 : 2/7/2023 7:47 pm : link
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RJB  
Carl in CT : 2/7/2023 7:49 pm : link
Playing like he wants out on purpose
Rj looks awful all around  
Knickstape : 2/7/2023 7:50 pm : link
Lost on defense. Poor passing. Jumper as broken as ever

I mean he gets no Wagner 1 on 1 and can’t manage to get by him. Come on man
please sit Rj  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2023 7:51 pm : link
he is actively hurting this team
Are going to have to attach  
Carl in CT : 2/7/2023 7:52 pm : link
Assets to get rid of this bum? RJB for Simmons anyone?? God this contract is going to make Eddy Curry’s look good.
Refs do not know what game they are reffing  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2023 7:54 pm : link
Fultz out of control barrels over Brunson, somehow not a charge..
Forty fucking points?  
bceagle05 : 2/7/2023 8:03 pm : link
Orlando is playing like crap - wake up already.
RE: Forty fucking points?  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2023 8:04 pm : link
In comment 16027030 bceagle05 said:
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Orlando is playing like crap - wake up already.


seriously, come out to start 3rd and start being agressive
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/7/2023 8:05 pm : link
The Magic don't have a bad roster. I like a lot of their players. That said...come the F on.

Start the bench to begin the 3rd.
Langston Galloway  
Mike from SI : 2/7/2023 8:12 pm : link
is still playing basketball in the G League?
RE: Langston Galloway  
steve in ky : 2/7/2023 8:17 pm : link
In comment 16027044 Mike from SI said:
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is still playing basketball in the G League?


Must just be playing for the love of the game at this point
Soo why is Orlando  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2023 8:22 pm : link
allowed to foul all over the place?
1-10  
Carl in CT : 2/7/2023 8:31 pm : link
And RJB still in the game? Pull the fucking plug!!!!
Jesus Christ rj is so bad  
Knickstape : 2/7/2023 8:31 pm : link
Wtf happened man
This is ridiculous  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2023 8:32 pm : link
these refs are terrible
I give Brunson and Randle credit  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2023 8:32 pm : link
they keep kicking it to Rj
RE: RE: Langston Galloway  
Mike from SI : 2/7/2023 8:35 pm : link
In comment 16027050 steve in ky said:
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is still playing basketball in the G League?



Must just be playing for the love of the game at this point


Must be. If he needed money he could probably make a lot more in Europe or China, one would think.
Thibs is a force the issue  
CornerStone246+17 : 2/7/2023 8:37 pm : link
Coach even when things are not working.
Isaac fouled him 3 times  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2023 8:39 pm : link
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This is just getting ridiculous now  
Strahan91 : 2/7/2023 8:40 pm : link
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Refs jist refuse to call fouls on Orlando  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2023 8:43 pm : link
Brunson just got shoved 3 times driving to the hoop
Tired of these Wagner assholes.  
bceagle05 : 2/7/2023 8:54 pm : link
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RJB is just  
Carl in CT : 2/7/2023 8:54 pm : link
BAD.
I just made this.  
robbieballs2003 : 2/7/2023 8:54 pm : link
so why is Suggs  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2023 8:56 pm : link
allowed to push and shove Brunson the entire time he has the ball? why is 1 team allowed to play physical but the other isnt? this is ridiculous
RE: Tired of these Wagner assholes.  
Carl in CT : 2/7/2023 8:56 pm : link
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They always end of killing us. Orlando could have worst record in the league and they beat us.
RJ  
TyreeHelmet : 2/7/2023 9:00 pm : link
Nice sequence there- love seeing that defense.
Brunson clutch  
CornerStone246+17 : 2/7/2023 9:03 pm : link
Randle un-clutch
Refs bailing out Magic again  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2023 9:04 pm : link
everytime Knicks take a lead, Refs call a foul to give the Magic free throws
Under two minutes means  
bceagle05 : 2/7/2023 9:09 pm : link
Julius does weird shit.
Brunson= clutch  
CornerStone246+17 : 2/7/2023 9:11 pm : link
Randle not
RE: Under two minutes means  
robbieballs2003 : 2/7/2023 9:11 pm : link
In comment 16027111 bceagle05 said:
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Julius does weird shit.


I'm so glad Brunson didn't give Randle the ball on that possession.
BEUNSON NOT deferring to randle last 2 posssions  
CornerStone246+17 : 2/7/2023 9:11 pm : link
Equals 4 Knick pts.
Do NOT give the ball to Randle  
CornerStone246+17 : 2/7/2023 9:13 pm : link
On the NEXT possession for an ISO!!!
Ball should be in Brunsons hands until late  
CornerStone246+17 : 2/7/2023 9:14 pm : link
In the clock and he either takes it or finds the open guy
Great look, damn.  
bceagle05 : 2/7/2023 9:15 pm : link
Thought that was going in.
Why are you shooting a 3  
Mike in NY : 2/7/2023 9:15 pm : link
With that much time still remaining on shot clock?
RE: Great look, damn.  
Mike in NY : 2/7/2023 9:16 pm : link
In comment 16027120 bceagle05 said:
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Thought that was going in.


I don’t care if he was wide open, you could have drained the clock more.
Knicks should over gaurd the 3  
CornerStone246+17 : 2/7/2023 9:16 pm : link
And then foul the 2
Again  
Spider43 : 2/7/2023 9:25 pm : link
I'll take it! But RJ's inefficiency is killing me...
Take it  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2023 9:25 pm : link
Good road win
Not a work of art, but that’s OK.  
bceagle05 : 2/7/2023 9:26 pm : link
Hope Jalen finds his way to the All-Star Game as an injury replacement - he deserves it.
2 days off now before Philly  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2023 9:27 pm : link
Wonder if there will be some new Knicks for Friday
20-13 since the awful 10-13 start to the season.  
bceagle05 : 2/7/2023 9:33 pm : link
Come on, Leon - help these guys out a bit, even if it’s just Eric Gordon or something else on the cheap.
RE: Take it  
Del Shofner : 2/7/2023 9:36 pm : link
In comment 16027130 nygiants16 said:
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Good road win


Yup. Came in late (4minutes to go) but everything I saw from there looked good.

A lot of Knicks fans there!
RE: RE: Take it  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2023 9:38 pm : link
In comment 16027138 Del Shofner said:
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Good road win



Yup. Came in late (4minutes to go) but everything I saw from there looked good.

A lot of Knicks fans there!


Always, i have a house in jupiter, everytime i go down all i see his Knicks stuff
You know what we call an ugly win in this house?  
Mike from SI : 2/7/2023 9:41 pm : link
A win.
RE: RE: RE: Take it  
Carl in CT : 2/7/2023 9:45 pm : link
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I just sold one in Juno Beach


Good road win



Yup. Came in late (4minutes to go) but everything I saw from there looked good.

A lot of Knicks fans there!



Always, i have a house in jupiter, everytime i go down all i see his Knicks stuff
Four games left before the break….  
bceagle05 : 2/7/2023 9:45 pm : link
@Philly
Jazz
Nets
@Hawks

Jazz will hopefully deal off a couple of pieces by Thursday. Can we finally beat the freaking Nets? Hopefully Grimes can keep Cam Thomas under 60. I’ll take 2-2 heading into the break.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Take it  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2023 9:47 pm : link
In comment 16027148 Carl in CT said:
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I just sold one in Juno Beach


Good road win



Yup. Came in late (4minutes to go) but everything I saw from there looked good.

A lot of Knicks fans there!



Always, i have a house in jupiter, everytime i go down all i see his Knicks stuff



Love it, house on the golf course, pool in the development, good food right down the street..kids love it..its nice
Orlando is actually not a bad team  
Vanzetti : 2/7/2023 10:37 pm : link
17-12 coming into tonight. About the same as Knicks 20-13.

Banchero is going to be a stud
Fultz is finally a decent player
The Wagner boys are tough.

It was a good win tonight
Sims in the dunk contest.  
bceagle05 : 2/7/2023 11:56 pm : link
Joins Grimes in the Rising Stars Game and Julius in the All-Star Game. Hopefully Jalen is next.
Begely says  
nygiants16 : 2/8/2023 6:41 am : link
there is not a lot of truth to the Knicks interest in Beasley and Vanderbilt, Utah did call but there wasnt much interest..

He also said Knicks are definitely still interested in OG
RE: Begely says  
Pete44 : 2/8/2023 9:09 am : link
In comment 16027226 nygiants16 said:
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there is not a lot of truth to the Knicks interest in Beasley and Vanderbilt, Utah did call but there wasnt much interest..

He also said Knicks are definitely still interested in OG


I've heard this group will never deal with Ainge again, unless its dramatically slanted to their advantage.

I still think a stretch 5, that can protect the rim is a bigger need than another wing. A lot of their late game issues are because Mitch/Jericho/Ihart are not offensive threats.
The more I watch this team  
Knickstape : 2/8/2023 9:26 am : link
The more Id like getting OG.

I just need to know what it would
Actually cost
RE: RE: Begely says  
Carl in CT : 2/8/2023 9:41 am : link
In comment 16027298 Pete44 said:
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there is not a lot of truth to the Knicks interest in Beasley and Vanderbilt, Utah did call but there wasnt much interest..

He also said Knicks are definitely still interested in OG



I've heard this group will never deal with Ainge again, unless its dramatically slanted to their advantage.

I still think a stretch 5, that can protect the rim is a bigger need than another wing. A lot of their late game issues are because Mitch/Jericho/Ihart are not offensive threats.



Pete you heard that right here the day Rose thought it was done and starting throwing the phone and was screaming he would never deal with that mother fucker again. I’ve also posted it numerous of times when these so called insiders just post bullshit. That being said a low level bench deal is never out of the question for any member of the executive office if a player is buried on the bench and it does him and the team a favor.
RE: The more I watch this team  
larryflower37 : 2/8/2023 9:54 am : link
In comment 16027328 Knickstape said:
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The more Id like getting OG.

I just need to know what it would
Actually cost


All the reports say the Knicks are not in any talks with the Raptors at all, I don't think the Raptors are actually selling but listening if someone calls
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DanMetroMan : 2/8/2023 10:17 am : link
The Toronto Raptors are demanding that Brooklyn Nets big man Nic Claxton be included in any significant trade ahead of Thursday’s trade deadline, according to SNY.tv’s Ian Begley.
Bondy  
DanMetroMan : 2/8/2023 10:19 am : link
says Reddish could be bought out. Are you telling me they can't even get a 2nd round pick or somebody else's Reddish?
RE: .  
nygiants16 : 2/8/2023 10:20 am : link
In comment 16027359 DanMetroMan said:
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The Toronto Raptors are demanding that Brooklyn Nets big man Nic Claxton be included in any significant trade ahead of Thursday’s trade deadline, according to SNY.tv’s Ian Begley.


Thats a tough call for the znets, Claxton has really started to develop and is their only big man, but KD aint staying for Claxton, you get Siakim you got a chance to make KD happy
RE: Bondy  
robbieballs2003 : 2/8/2023 10:29 am : link
In comment 16027362 DanMetroMan said:
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says Reddish could be bought out. Are you telling me they can't even get a 2nd round pick or somebody else's Reddish?


This is one of my many complaints about this team. The Front Office and Coach are not on the same page. We gave up a first for him for what reason? Another complaint is we are too stupid to realize we should be building up players we want to trade. Instead we have a unique ability to destroy any value our guys have. We want to move Rose but he rides the bench. We want to trade Fournier so we park his ass on the bench even though he can be very useful to this team. We want to trade Reddish but park his ass on the bench. We want to trade Obi but limit his minutes and don't let him be him. Randle had an amazing year 2 years ago and we don't think about trading him. He sucks last year and his name was thrown out there but teams wanted an asset to take him. Now his value is high again and we don't even think of putting him on the block. IQ is playing great and we won't move him. Look at Burks last year. Thibs overused him and destoyed his value in any potential trade.

It drives me nuts with this disconnect.
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Strahan91 : 2/8/2023 10:36 am : link
In comment 16027363 nygiants16 said:
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The Toronto Raptors are demanding that Brooklyn Nets big man Nic Claxton be included in any significant trade ahead of Thursday’s trade deadline, according to SNY.tv’s Ian Begley.



Thats a tough call for the znets, Claxton has really started to develop and is their only big man, but KD aint staying for Claxton, you get Siakim you got a chance to make KD happy

I REALLY don't think Ujiri is trading Siakam for Claxton, and the 3 tradable frp's the Nets can deal (especially since one is Dallas's and Luka is 23 and one is top 8 protected).
RE: Bondy  
TyreeHelmet : 2/8/2023 10:52 am : link
In comment 16027362 DanMetroMan said:
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says Reddish could be bought out. Are you telling me they can't even get a 2nd round pick or somebody else's Reddish?


Front office has major egg on their face for this trade. You can say that trade won’t convey a first, but it’s only lottery protected for Charlotte for 2 seasons after this one. It’s an asset that was not used properly.

Trade him for another buy low candidate but the guy stinks. And it’s crazy to say this front office and coach aren’t the same page. They are attached at the hip.
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Pete44 : 2/8/2023 10:52 am : link
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The Toronto Raptors are demanding that Brooklyn Nets big man Nic Claxton be included in any significant trade ahead of Thursday’s trade deadline, according to SNY.tv’s Ian Begley.



Thats a tough call for the znets, Claxton has really started to develop and is their only big man, but KD aint staying for Claxton, you get Siakim you got a chance to make KD happy


I REALLY don't think Ujiri is trading Siakam for Claxton, and the 3 tradable frp's the Nets can deal (especially since one is Dallas's and Luka is 23 and one is top 8 protected).


It is more likely Fred Van Vleet
RE: RE: Bondy  
robbieballs2003 : 2/8/2023 10:53 am : link
In comment 16027393 TyreeHelmet said:
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says Reddish could be bought out. Are you telling me they can't even get a 2nd round pick or somebody else's Reddish?



Front office has major egg on their face for this trade. You can say that trade won’t convey a first, but it’s only lottery protected for Charlotte for 2 seasons after this one. It’s an asset that was not used properly.

Trade him for another buy low candidate but the guy stinks. And it’s crazy to say this front office and coach aren’t the same page. They are attached at the hip.


It's crazy to say they aren't on the same page? Really?
RE: RE: RE: Bondy  
TyreeHelmet : 2/8/2023 10:56 am : link
In comment 16027397 robbieballs2003 said:
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says Reddish could be bought out. Are you telling me they can't even get a 2nd round pick or somebody else's Reddish?



Front office has major egg on their face for this trade. You can say that trade won’t convey a first, but it’s only lottery protected for Charlotte for 2 seasons after this one. It’s an asset that was not used properly.

Trade him for another buy low candidate but the guy stinks. And it’s crazy to say this front office and coach aren’t the same page. They are attached at the hip.



It's crazy to say they aren't on the same page? Really?


You don’t think Leon Rose and thibs are on the same page? Seriously ?
RE: RE: RE: Begely says  
Pete44 : 2/8/2023 10:58 am : link
In comment 16027338 Carl in CT said:
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there is not a lot of truth to the Knicks interest in Beasley and Vanderbilt, Utah did call but there wasnt much interest..

He also said Knicks are definitely still interested in OG



I've heard this group will never deal with Ainge again, unless its dramatically slanted to their advantage.

I still think a stretch 5, that can protect the rim is a bigger need than another wing. A lot of their late game issues are because Mitch/Jericho/Ihart are not offensive threats.




Pete you heard that right here the day Rose thought it was done and starting throwing the phone and was screaming he would never deal with that mother fucker again. I’ve also posted it numerous of times when these so called insiders just post bullshit. That being said a low level bench deal is never out of the question for any member of the executive office if a player is buried on the bench and it does him and the team a favor.


Carl - honestly, I am on and off of here as work permits, never saw you write that, although, I much enjoy your posts and really appreciate the inside info. I have a friend that is a writer, that gives me tidbits and he told me about Rose's feelings towards Ainge.

I have heard the Knicks will not do much at the deadline. My friends thinks Rose has Dolan convinced they will make the playoffs this year. Also, can sell Dolan on 2 should be All-Stars on the team (Brunson and Randle), 2 excellent role player/defenders in Grimes/Mitch and the assets to still land a superstar in Barrett, Obi, Quick, picks, etc, if 1 should become available.
RE: Orlando is actually not a bad team  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 2/8/2023 10:59 am : link
In comment 16027176 Vanzetti said:
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17-12 coming into tonight. About the same as Knicks 20-13.

Banchero is going to be a stud
Fultz is finally a decent player
The Wagner boys are tough.

It was a good win tonight


Suggs was getting in Quick and Brunson’s asses. He’s the best defensive player on that team by a mile. Unfortunately, his shot is still a mess and so he’s just playing bench minutes. Once they took him off the floor in the fourth quarter, Brunson proceeded to whip their asses. Wagner Bros were very annoying last night.

Loved the Obi-Sims offensive rebounding play. Big free throws from Brunson and Randle.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Begely says  
bceagle05 : 2/8/2023 11:02 am : link
In comment 16027403 Pete44 said:
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Also, can sell Dolan on 2 should be All-Stars on the team (Brunson and Randle), 2 excellent role player/defenders in Grimes/Mitch and the assets to still land a superstar in Barrett, Obi, Quick, picks, etc, if 1 should become available.

Seems pretty fair. I hope they are not too committed to Mitch though - we could really use a center who can shoot (hello, Kristaps?).
RE: Begely says  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 2/8/2023 11:04 am : link
In comment 16027226 nygiants16 said:
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there is not a lot of truth to the Knicks interest in Beasley and Vanderbilt, Utah did call but there wasnt much interest..

He also said Knicks are definitely still interested in OG


See it against the Raptors and a little bit last night. The Knicks struggle against teams with interchangeable long wings. They could use a guy like that.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Begely says  
Pete44 : 2/8/2023 11:08 am : link
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Also, can sell Dolan on 2 should be All-Stars on the team (Brunson and Randle), 2 excellent role player/defenders in Grimes/Mitch and the assets to still land a superstar in Barrett, Obi, Quick, picks, etc, if 1 should become available.


Seems pretty fair. I hope they are not too committed to Mitch though - we could really use a center who can shoot (hello, Kristaps?).


Completely agree - I have written here, that Porzingis is the 1 guy that they possibly could acquire at the deadline that could move the needle this season. I feel much of the Knicks late game struggles are teams blitzing Randle/Brunson and not being afraid of Simms/Mitch/IHart hurting them offensively or hitting free throws.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Begely says  
Carl in CT : 2/8/2023 11:20 am : link
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there is not a lot of truth to the Knicks interest in Beasley and Vanderbilt, Utah did call but there wasnt much interest..

He also said Knicks are definitely still interested in OG



I've heard this group will never deal with Ainge again, unless its dramatically slanted to their advantage.

I still think a stretch 5, that can protect the rim is a bigger need than another wing. A lot of their late game issues are because Mitch/Jericho/Ihart are not offensive threats.




Pete you heard that right here the day Rose thought it was done and starting throwing the phone and was screaming he would never deal with that mother fucker again. I’ve also posted it numerous of times when these so called insiders just post bullshit. That being said a low level bench deal is never out of the question for any member of the executive office if a player is buried on the bench and it does him and the team a favor.



Carl - honestly, I am on and off of here as work permits, never saw you write that, although, I much enjoy your posts and really appreciate the inside info. I have a friend that is a writer, that gives me tidbits and he told me about Rose's feelings towards Ainge.

I have heard the Knicks will not do much at the deadline. My friends thinks Rose has Dolan convinced they will make the playoffs this year. Also, can sell Dolan on 2 should be All-Stars on the team (Brunson and Randle), 2 excellent role player/defenders in Grimes/Mitch and the assets to still land a superstar in Barrett, Obi, Quick, picks, etc, if 1 should become available.


Pete yes bottom line it’s been quiet. I as some have said feel there is a good chance we don’t move Reddish, Fournier or Rose. It’s just a real quiet year. Boston you might see them making a move that No one is talking about (not with us).
RE: Bondy  
Pete44 : 2/8/2023 11:29 am : link
In comment 16027362 DanMetroMan said:
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says Reddish could be bought out. Are you telling me they can't even get a 2nd round pick or somebody else's Reddish?


No franchise devalues players like the Knicks
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Begely says  
Pete44 : 2/8/2023 11:32 am : link
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there is not a lot of truth to the Knicks interest in Beasley and Vanderbilt, Utah did call but there wasnt much interest..

He also said Knicks are definitely still interested in OG



I've heard this group will never deal with Ainge again, unless its dramatically slanted to their advantage.

I still think a stretch 5, that can protect the rim is a bigger need than another wing. A lot of their late game issues are because Mitch/Jericho/Ihart are not offensive threats.




Pete you heard that right here the day Rose thought it was done and starting throwing the phone and was screaming he would never deal with that mother fucker again. I’ve also posted it numerous of times when these so called insiders just post bullshit. That being said a low level bench deal is never out of the question for any member of the executive office if a player is buried on the bench and it does him and the team a favor.



Carl - honestly, I am on and off of here as work permits, never saw you write that, although, I much enjoy your posts and really appreciate the inside info. I have a friend that is a writer, that gives me tidbits and he told me about Rose's feelings towards Ainge.

I have heard the Knicks will not do much at the deadline. My friends thinks Rose has Dolan convinced they will make the playoffs this year. Also, can sell Dolan on 2 should be All-Stars on the team (Brunson and Randle), 2 excellent role player/defenders in Grimes/Mitch and the assets to still land a superstar in Barrett, Obi, Quick, picks, etc, if 1 should become available.



Pete yes bottom line it’s been quiet. I as some have said feel there is a good chance we don’t move Reddish, Fournier or Rose. It’s just a real quiet year. Boston you might see them making a move that No one is talking about (not with us).


I have not heard anything on Boston and not sure what assets they have to make a deal unless they trade Jaylon Brown in a package to get Durant. I have heard the Nets are more open to moving him than they were this off-season.

To me - Knicks should be looking at a stretch 5.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Begely says  
robbieballs2003 : 2/8/2023 1:15 pm : link
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there is not a lot of truth to the Knicks interest in Beasley and Vanderbilt, Utah did call but there wasnt much interest..

He also said Knicks are definitely still interested in OG



I've heard this group will never deal with Ainge again, unless its dramatically slanted to their advantage.

I still think a stretch 5, that can protect the rim is a bigger need than another wing. A lot of their late game issues are because Mitch/Jericho/Ihart are not offensive threats.




Pete you heard that right here the day Rose thought it was done and starting throwing the phone and was screaming he would never deal with that mother fucker again. I’ve also posted it numerous of times when these so called insiders just post bullshit. That being said a low level bench deal is never out of the question for any member of the executive office if a player is buried on the bench and it does him and the team a favor.



Carl - honestly, I am on and off of here as work permits, never saw you write that, although, I much enjoy your posts and really appreciate the inside info. I have a friend that is a writer, that gives me tidbits and he told me about Rose's feelings towards Ainge.

I have heard the Knicks will not do much at the deadline. My friends thinks Rose has Dolan convinced they will make the playoffs this year. Also, can sell Dolan on 2 should be All-Stars on the team (Brunson and Randle), 2 excellent role player/defenders in Grimes/Mitch and the assets to still land a superstar in Barrett, Obi, Quick, picks, etc, if 1 should become available.



Pete yes bottom line it’s been quiet. I as some have said feel there is a good chance we don’t move Reddish, Fournier or Rose. It’s just a real quiet year. Boston you might see them making a move that No one is talking about (not with us).



I have not heard anything on Boston and not sure what assets they have to make a deal unless they trade Jaylon Brown in a package to get Durant. I have heard the Nets are more open to moving him than they were this off-season.

To me - Knicks should be looking at a stretch 5.


I don't disagree but look at how Thibs is using Hartenstein. He's not the same player. Thibs seems anti-big men away from the rim.
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Mike from SI : 2/8/2023 1:39 pm : link
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there is not a lot of truth to the Knicks interest in Beasley and Vanderbilt, Utah did call but there wasnt much interest..

He also said Knicks are definitely still interested in OG



I've heard this group will never deal with Ainge again, unless its dramatically slanted to their advantage.

I still think a stretch 5, that can protect the rim is a bigger need than another wing. A lot of their late game issues are because Mitch/Jericho/Ihart are not offensive threats.




Pete you heard that right here the day Rose thought it was done and starting throwing the phone and was screaming he would never deal with that mother fucker again. I’ve also posted it numerous of times when these so called insiders just post bullshit. That being said a low level bench deal is never out of the question for any member of the executive office if a player is buried on the bench and it does him and the team a favor.



Carl - honestly, I am on and off of here as work permits, never saw you write that, although, I much enjoy your posts and really appreciate the inside info. I have a friend that is a writer, that gives me tidbits and he told me about Rose's feelings towards Ainge.

I have heard the Knicks will not do much at the deadline. My friends thinks Rose has Dolan convinced they will make the playoffs this year. Also, can sell Dolan on 2 should be All-Stars on the team (Brunson and Randle), 2 excellent role player/defenders in Grimes/Mitch and the assets to still land a superstar in Barrett, Obi, Quick, picks, etc, if 1 should become available.



Pete yes bottom line it’s been quiet. I as some have said feel there is a good chance we don’t move Reddish, Fournier or Rose. It’s just a real quiet year. Boston you might see them making a move that No one is talking about (not with us).



I have not heard anything on Boston and not sure what assets they have to make a deal unless they trade Jaylon Brown in a package to get Durant. I have heard the Nets are more open to moving him than they were this off-season.

To me - Knicks should be looking at a stretch 5.



I don't disagree but look at how Thibs is using Hartenstein. He's not the same player. Thibs seems anti-big men away from the rim.


Except...he has Obi camp out at the 3 point line.
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there is not a lot of truth to the Knicks interest in Beasley and Vanderbilt, Utah did call but there wasnt much interest..

He also said Knicks are definitely still interested in OG



I've heard this group will never deal with Ainge again, unless its dramatically slanted to their advantage.

I still think a stretch 5, that can protect the rim is a bigger need than another wing. A lot of their late game issues are because Mitch/Jericho/Ihart are not offensive threats.




Pete you heard that right here the day Rose thought it was done and starting throwing the phone and was screaming he would never deal with that mother fucker again. I’ve also posted it numerous of times when these so called insiders just post bullshit. That being said a low level bench deal is never out of the question for any member of the executive office if a player is buried on the bench and it does him and the team a favor.



Carl - honestly, I am on and off of here as work permits, never saw you write that, although, I much enjoy your posts and really appreciate the inside info. I have a friend that is a writer, that gives me tidbits and he told me about Rose's feelings towards Ainge.

I have heard the Knicks will not do much at the deadline. My friends thinks Rose has Dolan convinced they will make the playoffs this year. Also, can sell Dolan on 2 should be All-Stars on the team (Brunson and Randle), 2 excellent role player/defenders in Grimes/Mitch and the assets to still land a superstar in Barrett, Obi, Quick, picks, etc, if 1 should become available.



Pete yes bottom line it’s been quiet. I as some have said feel there is a good chance we don’t move Reddish, Fournier or Rose. It’s just a real quiet year. Boston you might see them making a move that No one is talking about (not with us).



I have not heard anything on Boston and not sure what assets they have to make a deal unless they trade Jaylon Brown in a package to get Durant. I have heard the Nets are more open to moving him than they were this off-season.

To me - Knicks should be looking at a stretch 5.



I don't disagree but look at how Thibs is using Hartenstein. He's not the same player. Thibs seems anti-big men away from the rim.



Except...he has Obi camp out at the 3 point line.


Obi isn't a C.
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djm : 2/8/2023 2:11 pm : link
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says Reddish could be bought out. Are you telling me they can't even get a 2nd round pick or somebody else's Reddish?



No franchise devalues players like the Knicks


One could say no fan base overvalues their players like Knicks fans.

But maybe that's unfair...unless you go through our history.

The problem for Cam  
nygiants16 : 2/8/2023 2:15 pm : link
no matter where he goes, he needs to check his ego and find his role in this league, he is not a star in this league, he is not a 1st and 2nd option, not even a 3rd option, so the scoring oppurtunities are not always going to be there..

I like Cam, i wanted him to start, but in his mind he needs to score to be effective and i think thats where him and Thibs butted heads..
I just don't think the KNicks have done that at all lately  
djm : 2/8/2023 2:18 pm : link
ok Reddish...he's trash. Always was trash. Came here and played like...trash. He did get minutes early on this season....and no one wanted him because he's trash. You can't say the KNicks didn't try to play him because they did. And the Knicks have moved on from Reddish because they have better players in front of him. Who wants to derail a potential playoff season just to "pump up a guy's value? It really doesn't work that way. Teams know whether a guy is any good. We're gonna kill them for that? Kill them for trying to get him, maybe, sure. It didn't work.

It's possible that Rose and Thibs both wanted to take a shot with Reddish and that shot failed. I don't know why every player disappointment here has to be turned into some schism in the front office. How man y players are we even talking about? One? Maybe two?

You can believe that Rose is doing one thing while Thibs is trolling under the bridge and devouring any shred of youthful passion this franchise may possess. But it's a stretch. Simple reason? HE hasn't been fired.
and from what we knoq  
djm : 2/8/2023 2:21 pm : link
Thibs wants star power here. He wants vet star power here. That right there is probably the only divide between he and Rose. Why the hell would Thibs deliberately sabatage or torpedo a player's worth here all because he didn't like him in the first place? And he's STILL coaching the team? And the player we're talking about was never really any good AND we traded a late round pick for him? THAT is where Thibs is going to pick his battle?

I think most coaches don't care whether they wanted a player or not. If the guy can play he's going to play.

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robbieballs2003 : 2/8/2023 2:38 pm : link
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Thibs wants star power here. He wants vet star power here. That right there is probably the only divide between he and Rose. Why the hell would Thibs deliberately sabatage or torpedo a player's worth here all because he didn't like him in the first place? And he's STILL coaching the team? And the player we're talking about was never really any good AND we traded a late round pick for him? THAT is where Thibs is going to pick his battle?

I think most coaches don't care whether they wanted a player or not. If the guy can play he's going to play.


He's not deliberately sabotaging a player's value. He's so focused on getting us to the playoffs that the short term goals are hindering the long term goals. If your goal is to become a contender then winningba few more games during the regular season isn't worth devaluing your players. You played Cam early. His option wasn't picked up. Trad his ass immediately. Nope. Rose was always being moved but he hasn't been. How exactly qre we supposed to get better? You drafted Obi at 8 but he doesn't fit Thibs' system. More devaluing of assets. Where is the connection here? We missed the boat on these moves. We did it with Burks last year. If you disagree with me that is fine but don't twist my words saying I am saying Thibs is sabotaging anything. Thibs is being Thibs. You're always the one waiving pom poms for this team. We all don't see it the same. If you're okay with fighting for a playoff spot every year then that's good for you. I see a team that is about to blow it all up again unless something serious changes. I'd like to not go through another rebuild with another group of people. That is exactly where this group is headed.
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Kmed6000 : 2/8/2023 2:53 pm : link
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Thibs wants star power here. He wants vet star power here. That right there is probably the only divide between he and Rose. Why the hell would Thibs deliberately sabatage or torpedo a player's worth here all because he didn't like him in the first place? And he's STILL coaching the team? And the player we're talking about was never really any good AND we traded a late round pick for him? THAT is where Thibs is going to pick his battle?

I think most coaches don't care whether they wanted a player or not. If the guy can play he's going to play.




He's not deliberately sabotaging a player's value. He's so focused on getting us to the playoffs that the short term goals are hindering the long term goals. If your goal is to become a contender then winningba few more games during the regular season isn't worth devaluing your players. You played Cam early. His option wasn't picked up. Trad his ass immediately. Nope. Rose was always being moved but he hasn't been. How exactly qre we supposed to get better? You drafted Obi at 8 but he doesn't fit Thibs' system. More devaluing of assets. Where is the connection here? We missed the boat on these moves. We did it with Burks last year. If you disagree with me that is fine but don't twist my words saying I am saying Thibs is sabotaging anything. Thibs is being Thibs. You're always the one waiving pom poms for this team. We all don't see it the same. If you're okay with fighting for a playoff spot every year then that's good for you. I see a team that is about to blow it all up again unless something serious changes. I'd like to not go through another rebuild with another group of people. That is exactly where this group is headed.


There is so much wrong with this, IMO. He's focused on winning as many games as possible. That's it. That's all any head coach wants. Thats his job. He isn't supposed to play younger players that giv e us a better chance to LOSE games. Also, if the player he plays helps us win a few games, wouldn't their stock rise?

Isn't it just possible that Cam Reddish isn't good? Obi isn't worthy of minutes? Everyone used to say the same shit about IQ, but now he's a key cog. Why? Because he got better.
Also, if you don't think this team is heading in the right direction,  
Kmed6000 : 2/8/2023 2:54 pm : link
then I don't know what to tell you. This current situation is nothing like years past. Getting this young team playoff experience and getting the team on the map as a desirable destination is very important. More important than playing a bad player like cam Reddish in the hopes that we can trade him for 2 seconds.
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robbieballs2003 : 2/8/2023 2:58 pm : link
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Thibs wants star power here. He wants vet star power here. That right there is probably the only divide between he and Rose. Why the hell would Thibs deliberately sabatage or torpedo a player's worth here all because he didn't like him in the first place? And he's STILL coaching the team? And the player we're talking about was never really any good AND we traded a late round pick for him? THAT is where Thibs is going to pick his battle?

I think most coaches don't care whether they wanted a player or not. If the guy can play he's going to play.




He's not deliberately sabotaging a player's value. He's so focused on getting us to the playoffs that the short term goals are hindering the long term goals. If your goal is to become a contender then winningba few more games during the regular season isn't worth devaluing your players. You played Cam early. His option wasn't picked up. Trad his ass immediately. Nope. Rose was always being moved but he hasn't been. How exactly qre we supposed to get better? You drafted Obi at 8 but he doesn't fit Thibs' system. More devaluing of assets. Where is the connection here? We missed the boat on these moves. We did it with Burks last year. If you disagree with me that is fine but don't twist my words saying I am saying Thibs is sabotaging anything. Thibs is being Thibs. You're always the one waiving pom poms for this team. We all don't see it the same. If you're okay with fighting for a playoff spot every year then that's good for you. I see a team that is about to blow it all up again unless something serious changes. I'd like to not go through another rebuild with another group of people. That is exactly where this group is headed.



There is so much wrong with this, IMO. He's focused on winning as many games as possible. That's it. That's all any head coach wants. Thats his job. He isn't supposed to play younger players that giv e us a better chance to LOSE games. Also, if the player he plays helps us win a few games, wouldn't their stock rise?

Isn't it just possible that Cam Reddish isn't good? Obi isn't worthy of minutes? Everyone used to say the same shit about IQ, but now he's a key cog. Why? Because he got better.



I love when people are just jumping in mid conversation. This all started with talking about the lack of vision by both the front office and coach. If Thibs doesn't wqnt these players then fuckin move them before they rot on the bench. Fournier goes basically from playing too much to not at all. How does he not have a role on this team? If Fournier was on any other team he'd have value. On the Knicks we have to attach assets to get rid of him. That is an issue with getting this star that we all want. Who are we trading for said star?
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robbieballs2003 : 2/8/2023 3:03 pm : link
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then I don't know what to tell you. This current situation is nothing like years past. Getting this young team playoff experience and getting the team on the map as a desirable destination is very important. More important than playing a bad player like cam Reddish in the hopes that we can trade him for 2 seconds.


I have stated numerous times that I like the direction of the front office. I have stated numerous times that I don't want them doing anything stupid at the deadline just to make a move. I don't want a guy to come here just to fit Thibs. I want Thibs gone. I am so over his in game coaching.
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Kmed6000 : 2/8/2023 3:09 pm : link
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Thibs wants star power here. He wants vet star power here. That right there is probably the only divide between he and Rose. Why the hell would Thibs deliberately sabatage or torpedo a player's worth here all because he didn't like him in the first place? And he's STILL coaching the team? And the player we're talking about was never really any good AND we traded a late round pick for him? THAT is where Thibs is going to pick his battle?

I think most coaches don't care whether they wanted a player or not. If the guy can play he's going to play.




He's not deliberately sabotaging a player's value. He's so focused on getting us to the playoffs that the short term goals are hindering the long term goals. If your goal is to become a contender then winningba few more games during the regular season isn't worth devaluing your players. You played Cam early. His option wasn't picked up. Trad his ass immediately. Nope. Rose was always being moved but he hasn't been. How exactly qre we supposed to get better? You drafted Obi at 8 but he doesn't fit Thibs' system. More devaluing of assets. Where is the connection here? We missed the boat on these moves. We did it with Burks last year. If you disagree with me that is fine but don't twist my words saying I am saying Thibs is sabotaging anything. Thibs is being Thibs. You're always the one waiving pom poms for this team. We all don't see it the same. If you're okay with fighting for a playoff spot every year then that's good for you. I see a team that is about to blow it all up again unless something serious changes. I'd like to not go through another rebuild with another group of people. That is exactly where this group is headed.



There is so much wrong with this, IMO. He's focused on winning as many games as possible. That's it. That's all any head coach wants. Thats his job. He isn't supposed to play younger players that giv e us a better chance to LOSE games. Also, if the player he plays helps us win a few games, wouldn't their stock rise?

Isn't it just possible that Cam Reddish isn't good? Obi isn't worthy of minutes? Everyone used to say the same shit about IQ, but now he's a key cog. Why? Because he got better.




I love when people are just jumping in mid conversation. This all started with talking about the lack of vision by both the front office and coach. If Thibs doesn't wqnt these players then fuckin move them before they rot on the bench. Fournier goes basically from playing too much to not at all. How does he not have a role on this team? If Fournier was on any other team he'd have value. On the Knicks we have to attach assets to get rid of him. That is an issue with getting this star that we all want. Who are we trading for said star?


I did jump in late, sorry.

So your issue is with the FO then, not Thibs. Who is Fournier getting minutes over? Thibs keeps a tight rotation
Agree there  
Kmed6000 : 2/8/2023 3:10 pm : link
Thibs aint the guy for this job.
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djm : 2/8/2023 3:18 pm : link
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Thibs wants star power here. He wants vet star power here. That right there is probably the only divide between he and Rose. Why the hell would Thibs deliberately sabatage or torpedo a player's worth here all because he didn't like him in the first place? And he's STILL coaching the team? And the player we're talking about was never really any good AND we traded a late round pick for him? THAT is where Thibs is going to pick his battle?

I think most coaches don't care whether they wanted a player or not. If the guy can play he's going to play.




He's not deliberately sabotaging a player's value. He's so focused on getting us to the playoffs that the short term goals are hindering the long term goals. If your goal is to become a contender then winningba few more games during the regular season isn't worth devaluing your players. You played Cam early. His option wasn't picked up. Trad his ass immediately. Nope. Rose was always being moved but he hasn't been. How exactly qre we supposed to get better? You drafted Obi at 8 but he doesn't fit Thibs' system. More devaluing of assets. Where is the connection here? We missed the boat on these moves. We did it with Burks last year. If you disagree with me that is fine but don't twist my words saying I am saying Thibs is sabotaging anything. Thibs is being Thibs. You're always the one waiving pom poms for this team. We all don't see it the same. If you're okay with fighting for a playoff spot every year then that's good for you. I see a team that is about to blow it all up again unless something serious changes. I'd like to not go through another rebuild with another group of people. That is exactly where this group is headed.


I guess I have a hard time associating Cam Reddish with short or long term goals. Even if he figures shit out he's a role player or a bench player.

I'd rather make the playoffs and lose in 4 games then play that guy more minutes just to pump up any perceived value.

if this sucked balls? like 25 win type sucked balls?  
djm : 2/8/2023 3:20 pm : link
yea, MAYBE then you can justify playing Cam Reddish over someone who might be a little better but has reached their vet peak.

I mean we're talking about a winning team here. 2-3 years now this team is winning more games than it loses. We are one hot streak from a really nice year and even if it stays around this 45 win course, not bad.

We lose sight of this quite often. Even myself, but once the dust from an awful heartbreaking loss settles in I always realize that this team is good.

again  
djm : 2/8/2023 3:22 pm : link
5 minutes before Rose and Thibs took over if someone said this team would field multiple young players and average about 44 wins per year, we'd all be fucking thrilled.

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nygiants16 : 2/8/2023 3:30 pm : link
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yea, MAYBE then you can justify playing Cam Reddish over someone who might be a little better but has reached their vet peak.

I mean we're talking about a winning team here. 2-3 years now this team is winning more games than it loses. We are one hot streak from a really nice year and even if it stays around this 45 win course, not bad.

We lose sight of this quite often. Even myself, but once the dust from an awful heartbreaking loss settles in I always realize that this team is good.


THIS, Last year the Knicms messed up with keep Burks and playing him so much over IQ and Mcbride and others..

This year you cant say the same thing, for all the faults of Thibs and all the stuff we dont like, we have a young team winning games, 6 of the rotation pieces are drafted players..
Obi was a miss  
djm : 2/8/2023 3:34 pm : link
Reddish was a miss. The FA decisions that brought in Walker and Fournier were misses. I don't lose sleep over those FA moves because they didn't really stop us from doing anything else in terms of cap space and the picks we used to dump Walker were more or less harmless, plus this regime has been adept at gathering up picks to begin with.

Knicks are competitive and developing players. They just aren't great, yet. It's hard to blast the org for that.
now let's talk about the good  
djm : 2/8/2023 3:37 pm : link
IQ
Grimes
McBride (jury still out but he's playing and making progress)
Mitch Robinson(wise to re-sign and not trade him)

Figuring out how to get every shred of talent out of Randle and not dumping him for trash despite half this board wantimg the KNicks to do just that.

And even better, Jalen Brunson.

We have 2 legit all star caliber players here. We are a winning team. Star power. Here. It could be a lot worse.

Oh year, tons of picks still in the coffers.

We're fine.
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CornerStone246+17 : 2/8/2023 3:46 pm : link
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IQ
Grimes
McBride (jury still out but he's playing and making progress)
Mitch Robinson(wise to re-sign and not trade him)

Figuring out how to get every shred of talent out of Randle and not dumping him for trash despite half this board wantimg the KNicks to do just that.

And even better, Jalen Brunson.

We have 2 legit all star caliber players here. We are a winning team. Star power. Here. It could be a lot worse.

Oh year, tons of picks still in the coffers.

We're fine.


I like this team but they really need to turn these assets they've accumulated into something. Or at least start the ball rolling with a smaller complimentary trade for better fitting pieces for Thibs system.
Shams  
DanMetroMan : 2/8/2023 3:46 pm : link
The Lakers, Jazz and Timberwolves are in discussions on a three-team deal that would send D’Angelo Russell to the Lakers, Russell Westbrook and draft compensation such as a first-round pick to Utah and Mike Conley Jr. to Minnesota, sources tell me and @Tjonesonthenba.
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nygiants16 : 2/8/2023 3:48 pm : link
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The Lakers, Jazz and Timberwolves are in discussions on a three-team deal that would send D’Angelo Russell to the Lakers, Russell Westbrook and draft compensation such as a first-round pick to Utah and Mike Conley Jr. to Minnesota, sources tell me and @Tjonesonthenba.


Wow, now where does Westbrook end up on the buyout market?

Thats a good trade for Lakers because Russel is an expiring and he can play off Lebron as a shooter
Shams is destroying Woj lately.  
bceagle05 : 2/8/2023 3:50 pm : link
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nygiants16 : 2/8/2023 3:51 pm : link
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Woj actually reported it on NBA today just before Shams tweeted it
Ahh, good to know.  
bceagle05 : 2/8/2023 3:52 pm : link
We'll see who gets the KD trade bomb out there first, because I have a feeling that's coming.
there's like a 10 year  
Enzo : 2/8/2023 3:54 pm : link
age gap between Russell and Conley. You would think the Wolves would be getting something more in this.
Beasley and Vanderbilt could be headed to lakers as well  
nygiants16 : 2/8/2023 3:54 pm : link
thats a prettt good haul for Westbrook, i am guessing both 1sts will be in it
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nygiants16 : 2/8/2023 3:55 pm : link
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We'll see who gets the KD trade bomb out there first, because I have a feeling that's coming.


I do to
What in the world can the Nets get for KD that is worth it?  
Heisenberg : 2/8/2023 3:58 pm : link
I can't see a fit that makes sense for them anywhere
KD  
Carl in CT : 2/8/2023 4:18 pm : link
Sorry more value in off season. I don’t see it happening.
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DanMetroMan : 2/8/2023 4:33 pm : link
OG Anunoby’s player option for the 2024-25 season and uncertainty about whether he’d re-sign with the Knicks are complicating factors in a potential Knicks-Raptors trade, per @IanBegley
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Pete44 : 2/8/2023 4:34 pm : link
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Sorry more value in off season. I don’t see it happening.


Despite what folks said yesterday, Knicks can put together a competitive package for KD: Randle/Barrett and a ton of picks. Carl - do you think the Nets would ever consider trading Durant to the Knicks?
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nygiants16 : 2/8/2023 5:07 pm : link
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OG Anunoby’s player option for the 2024-25 season and uncertainty about whether he’d re-sign with the Knicks are complicating factors in a potential Knicks-Raptors trade, per @IanBegley


Begely mentioned on his putback show that compensation would not be the problem..
RE: RE: KD  
Strahan91 : 2/8/2023 5:12 pm : link
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Sorry more value in off season. I don’t see it happening.



Despite what folks said yesterday, Knicks can put together a competitive package for KD: Randle/Barrett and a ton of picks. Carl - do you think the Nets would ever consider trading Durant to the Knicks?

No and he doesn't want to be here anyways.
RE: Shams  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/8/2023 6:36 pm : link
In comment 16027725 DanMetroMan said:
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The Lakers, Jazz and Timberwolves are in discussions on a three-team deal that would send D’Angelo Russell to the Lakers, Russell Westbrook and draft compensation such as a first-round pick to Utah and Mike Conley Jr. to Minnesota, sources tell me and @Tjonesonthenba.


Ham & Russ reportedly went at each other last night. I can't imagine Russ was thrilled with LBJ's lamenting to Wilbon about the LAL not getting Kyrie.
RE: RE: now let's talk about the good  
djm : 2/8/2023 6:39 pm : link
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IQ
Grimes
McBride (jury still out but he's playing and making progress)
Mitch Robinson(wise to re-sign and not trade him)

Figuring out how to get every shred of talent out of Randle and not dumping him for trash despite half this board wantimg the KNicks to do just that.

And even better, Jalen Brunson.

We have 2 legit all star caliber players here. We are a winning team. Star power. Here. It could be a lot worse.

Oh year, tons of picks still in the coffers.

We're fine.



I like this team but they really need to turn these assets they've accumulated into something. Or at least start the ball rolling with a smaller complimentary trade for better fitting pieces for Thibs system.


Agree. I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t obsessing over the big fish type move.
djm.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/8/2023 6:45 pm : link
Eventually, we gotta turn these picks into a Moby Dick. I love Brunon & JR is having a nice season, but we're not winning the East with those two as our Batman & Robin.
RE: djm.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/8/2023 7:06 pm : link
In comment 16027829 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Eventually, we gotta turn these picks into a Moby Dick. I love Brunon & JR is having a nice season, but we're not winning the East with those two as our Batman & Robin.


We all want that, and that's what they want too. Fans get frustrated because that guy isn't really out there. OG is nice but he's not actually what you want to move planets for.

Can't make a star come available, and you don't want to fall in love with not-stars just because they're available. They're somewhat a victim of finally fixing the franchise at a time where the window for grabbing a superstar is not really open.

They were close on Mitchell but dealing with one of the hardest to deal with GMs in the league.

No one wants to hear you tried and didn't get it done but sometimes that's really it.
Knicks Scout in Toronto  
nygiants16 : 2/8/2023 7:10 pm : link
funny thing is Knicks are done playing both the raptors and Spurs
RE: Knicks Scout in Toronto  
bceagle05 : 2/8/2023 7:16 pm : link
In comment 16027837 nygiants16 said:
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funny thing is Knicks are done playing both the raptors and Spurs

Wes and Randle should sit front row like the Dallas/Utah playoff game.
TTH.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/8/2023 7:19 pm : link
I think Ainge just didn't want to trade Spider to us. As a former Celt, no love lost.
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DanMetroMan : 2/8/2023 7:22 pm : link

NBACentral
@TheNBACentral
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3h
The Bulls and Warriors have shown interest in Cam Reddish, per
@AmicoHoops
They have the pieces and the ammo now.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/8/2023 7:23 pm : link
Playing with two all stars makes them a destination and they have picks and talent to work with. I love where they're at but I get why patience is short.

I do think they need to be very aggressive when their target is there.

RE: Knicks Scout in Toronto  
Knickstape : 2/8/2023 7:29 pm : link
In comment 16027837 nygiants16 said:
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funny thing is Knicks are done playing both the raptors and Spurs



Gary Trent
Doug McDermott
Josh Richardson


My guesses
RE: RE: Knicks Scout in Toronto  
nygiants16 : 2/8/2023 7:32 pm : link
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Gary Trent
Doug McDermott
Josh Richardson


My guesses


probably but it felt like that report about the Knicks being worried about his opt out was leaked on purpose
RE: RE: RE: Knicks Scout in Toronto  
Knickstape : 2/8/2023 7:33 pm : link
In comment 16027862 nygiants16 said:
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funny thing is Knicks are done playing both the raptors and Spurs




Gary Trent
Doug McDermott
Josh Richardson


My guesses



probably but it felt like that report about the Knicks being worried about his opt out was leaked on purpose



Is OG even playing tonight though. Cause if he’s still out with an injury it can’t be him they’re looking at
Anunoby  
DanMetroMan : 2/8/2023 7:35 pm : link
is OUT tonight (wrist)
RE: RE: RE: RE: Knicks Scout in Toronto  
nygiants16 : 2/8/2023 7:37 pm : link
In comment 16027864 Knickstape said:
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funny thing is Knicks are done playing both the raptors and Spurs




Gary Trent
Doug McDermott
Josh Richardson


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probably but it felt like that report about the Knicks being worried about his opt out was leaked on purpose




Is OG even playing tonight though. Cause if he’s still out with an injury it can’t be him they’re looking at


Yeah thats true, i dont know, is it weird a Knicks scout is there or reading to much into it?
Woj  
DanMetroMan : 2/8/2023 7:43 pm : link
says the Lakers/Jazz/Wolves deal is still being discussed.

LAL-Russell,
Utah-Westbrook and a 1 to the Jazz
Wolves-Conley

Beasley and Vanderbilt "potentially" also in the deal to LAL.
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DanMetroMan : 2/8/2023 8:10 pm : link
"Although the two teams have discussed a potential trade, as HoopsHype reported over the weekend, some people in New York’s front office aren’t sold on Vanderbilt’s and Beasley’s fit with the current roster, Begley explains."
RE: Woj  
nygiants16 : 2/8/2023 8:11 pm : link
In comment 16027875 DanMetroMan said:
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says the Lakers/Jazz/Wolves deal is still being discussed.

LAL-Russell,
Utah-Westbrook and a 1 to the Jazz
Wolves-Conley

Beasley and Vanderbilt "potentially" also in the deal to LAL.


Russel not playing tonight (personal)
Per Popper’s most recent column, it sounds like  
Strahan91 : 2/8/2023 8:15 pm : link
the Knicks won’t do much at the deadline. He does seem confident Reddish will get dealt (insinuates they have offers) but the Knicks will take it right up until the deadline to get the best possible return
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