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Will Daniel Jones realize what his contract does to the team

jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 3/4/2023 10:05 am
Or will he just go after every dollar he thinks he can get?

And if no agreement can be reached, does he realize how a quarterback franchise affects the opportunity to sign others?
Daniel Jones needs to see the big picture in giants negotiations - ( New Window )
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It’s DJ’s  
MyNameIsMyName : 3/4/2023 11:23 pm : link
Job to get the most he can. The sad part will be when DJ is still
Mediocre the DJ fan club won’t understand why he’s not surrounded by all pro’s at every position
RE: He knows  
Matt M. : 3/5/2023 12:22 am : link
In comment 16050777 Spider43 said:
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This is his best chance to get a huge deal. He probably correctly surmises he isn't likely to replicate last season. This is it. He's not concerned about the team's finances, he just wants bank. I don't blame him. Strike while the iron is hot. All that said, I'm leaning tag. Then take the training wheels off next season and open up the playbook. See if he's really 'dat dude'. I suspect everything comes back down to earth next season.
IF he's not going to replicate last season, then what the fuck is anyone paying him $45M for?
RE: Don't you realize that the Giants  
Matt M. : 3/5/2023 12:25 am : link
In comment 16050800 RobCrossRiver56 said:
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voided Jones 5th year option?
They didn't void anything. They decided not to pick up the option which amounted to something like a 130% increase in salary. They decided, and I would say correctly so, that in the 3 prior years they didn't see enough on tape to pay him over $21M. They wanted to see something for themselves.
He’s dumb if he doesn’t go for every dime  
Ned In Atlanta : 3/5/2023 1:24 am : link
His career could be over with one bad tackle. But if he gets mega money there’s no more excuses about the players around him and the expectations are playoffs at minimum every year he’s on the team
RE: RE: He knows  
BlackLight : 3/5/2023 2:16 am : link
In comment 16051373 Matt M. said:
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In comment 16050777 Spider43 said:


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This is his best chance to get a huge deal. He probably correctly surmises he isn't likely to replicate last season. This is it. He's not concerned about the team's finances, he just wants bank. I don't blame him. Strike while the iron is hot. All that said, I'm leaning tag. Then take the training wheels off next season and open up the playbook. See if he's really 'dat dude'. I suspect everything comes back down to earth next season.

IF he's not going to replicate last season, then what the fuck is anyone paying him $45M for?


No one is paying him $45 million. But the only chance that somebody actually would is if he actually asks for it. Which it costs him precisely zero to do.

Daniel Jones has a degree in economics. The people who know him say that if he wasn't playing football, he'd be working on Wall Street. He understands, apparently better that 99% of fans, that many factors influence his market value, and his statistical performance in 2022 has relatively little to do with it.

If you want to be mad at someone, maybe be mad at Schoen, who made it clear right out of the gate that Jones would be the team's starter next season, one way or another, and if they couldn't agree on a deal, they would just tag him. Once Jones knew the team meant to exercise every advantage it had to keep him on the roster and playing for the salary they preferred, it only made sense for him to swing for the fences with his opening ask, and use every bit of leverage he had to eventually arrive at the highest compromise point possible.

Personally, I still think this deal gets done with enough time to spare that it allows the Giants to tag Barkley.
If he expects to be the highest paid player on the team  
Giant John : 3/5/2023 7:19 am : link
It has to at least enter his thought process. Especially if Giants can’t afford better protection, or run game or receivers that can get after catching the ball.
Especially when he’s getting knocked on his ass and losing games. Yes it matters.
RE: He’s dumb if he doesn’t go for every dime  
Big Blue '56 : 3/5/2023 7:32 am : link
In comment 16051382 Ned In Atlanta said:
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His career could be over with one bad tackle. But if he gets mega money there’s no more excuses about the players around him and the expectations are playoffs at minimum every year he’s on the team


My expectation as well
Daniel Jones and every other player in the NFL should go  
chick310 : 3/5/2023 8:01 am : link
try and get every dollar they can. That is their role.

GMs like Joe Schoen should go and try to build the best roster they can while negotiating smart contracts with each NFL player, and make it fit within the salary cap. That is their role.

And GMs like Dave Gettleman should be put out to pasture. That is their role.
More bullshit  
djm : 3/5/2023 10:37 am : link
I guess every player should “think of the team” when signing contracts?

Make this shit stop already. Jones should get every cent.
If I was a player I'd want NFLPA to  
bc4life : 3/5/2023 11:19 am : link
get some adjustments to the cap given these huge QB deals. For example, limiting how much by percentage a QB salary can be. One player's salary impacts the team and salaries of 52 other players. And, that player has added protections built into the rules to ensure their safety.

Will probably never happen, but, IMO it would be fairer.
RE: No Objectivity left on this board  
BigBlueinDE : 3/5/2023 3:46 pm : link
In comment 16050756 Bruner4329 said:
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This whole Jones thing has lost perspective. Let's assume he signs a contract with an AAV of $40 million but the first couple of years are cap friendly. So right now that type contract would make him the 9th highest paid QB in the game. However you know Lamar J., Herbert, Burrows and Hurts are getting new contracts that will exceed that. So then he becomes 13th in the league. MY point is in a year or 2 he is probably somewhere around 15th in the league in QB pay. This is the reality and IMO he is top 15 in this league.


Exactly! Like it or not, QB's are expensive. That's the way it is in today's NFL.
So after us disrespecting him  
Darth Paul : 3/5/2023 4:45 pm : link
he is supposed to do us a favor? The NFL throws players away like trash. Players should always should get what they can.
At your office job  
The Dude : 3/5/2023 4:48 pm : link
Do you worry if your high salary takes away from the rest of the company?
RE: At your office job  
NoGainDayne : 3/5/2023 5:02 pm : link
In comment 16051964 The Dude said:
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Do you worry if your high salary takes away from the rest of the company?


Does your industry have an enforced maximum of how much the individual companies can spend?
RE: RE: At your office job  
The Dude : 3/5/2023 5:05 pm : link
In comment 16051969 NoGainDayne said:
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In comment 16051964 The Dude said:


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Do you worry if your high salary takes away from the rest of the company?



Does your industry have an enforced maximum of how much the individual companies can spend?


You mean a budget? Lol yes.
Yeah but that budget is determined by  
NoGainDayne : 3/5/2023 5:12 pm : link
individual companies not an external body, catch my drift?

People tend to not care about salaries because if they work hard and increase profits overall it means more money for everyone. The NFL is fixed no matter how much the league makes it is pre-determined and that makes is a fairly large difference here
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The Dude : 3/5/2023 6:08 pm : link
“People tend to not care about salaries because if they work hard and increase profits overall it means more money for everyone.”

^ Lol. I guess It depends your line of work…but that made me chuckle. Tell that to one of the many tech, engineering , media advertising recent layoffs.

I understand the external body thing, but i think it’s splitting hairs. I guess my My overall point in saying that is it’s not your job to worry about how everyone else is getting paid and how your higher salary could effect the bottom line down the road (layoffs, cuts, reorgs). It’s no different for Jones. He hires agents to get the best deal. he lets JS worry about the rest. An NFL career could be gone in a flash. And we’ll still be here jamming on the keyboards like nothings changed.
People want him to make stupid decisions..  
DefenseWins : 3/5/2023 6:15 pm : link
with his contract, then smart decisions in the pocket?
RE: People want him to make stupid decisions..  
Rich_Houston_1971 : 3/6/2023 11:12 am : link
In comment 16052060 DefenseWins said:
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with his contract, then smart decisions in the pocket?



Awesome take here. I agree with DefenseWins!! Best comment of the year so far!!!!!
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