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pjcas18 : 3/7/2023 8:10 am
First of all, in case there was any question, McDavid is the best player on the planet and is really getting himself into the discussion of ATGs IMO. He just needs a ring.

Second, down to the final 20 games or so for almost every team, some less.

Playoff positioning is pretty solid other than some seeding and a couple WC races.

As of this morning:
EAST
Atlantic:
BOS (103 points, 20 games left)
TOR (84 points, 19 games left)
TBL (79 points, 19 games left)

In the WC hunt:
BUF (68 points, 20 games left)
OTT (68 points, 19 games left)
FLA (68 points, 18 games left)

Metro:
CAR (90 points, 21 games left)
NJD (88 points, 20 games left)
NYR (79 points, 19 games left)

In the WC hunt:
NYI (72 points, 17 games left)
PIT (71 points, 20 games left)
WAS (68 points, 17 games left)

WEST
Central
DAL (81 points, 18 games left)
MIN (78 points, 19 games left)
WIN (75 points, 18 games left)

In the WC hunt:
COL (74 points, 21 games left)
NSH (69 points, 21 games left)

Pacific
LVG (82 points, 19 games left)
LAK (81 points, 17 games left)
SEA (78 points, 19 games left)

In the WC hunt:
EDM (78 points, 17 games left)

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RE: RE: Wow!!  
Anakim : 4/10/2023 10:04 pm : link
In comment 16085600 dpinzow said:
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Pussy Rangers cannot even beat the fucking Sabres!! Unbelievable



Rangers aren't catching Carolina and home ice in a series vs the Devils doesn't matter (lots of Rangers fans will be in Newark)


Bingo. And Carolina games are home games anyway. Sorry JIC
Home ice advantage is probably least important advantange  
dpinzow : 4/10/2023 10:08 pm : link
in any of the major North American sports. I think home teams win only 54% of the time in the Stanley Cup playoffs or something like that. It's certainly way less important than home field in the NFL or home court in the NBA.

In the NHL all you have to do is get in and if you have a goalie who starts standing on his head you can make a run
......  
Route 9 : 4/10/2023 10:11 pm : link
Just getting into playoff mode. You can have your "lecture mode" ... What's all this?

RE: ......  
dpinzow : 4/10/2023 10:14 pm : link
In comment 16085606 Route 9 said:
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Just getting into playoff mode. You can have your "lecture mode" ... What's all this?


Getting into the Stanley Cup playoffs and getting hot >>>> home ice advantage
That's why the Islanders result matters  
dpinzow : 4/10/2023 10:15 pm : link
because they have a goalie in Sorokin who can stand on his head at times and steal games for them. He's not Igor but he's still good enough to do that
......  
Route 9 : 4/10/2023 10:20 pm : link
I don't care about home ice lol I'm just mad about losing to the Sabres.
Most of the teams  
pjcas18 : 4/10/2023 10:21 pm : link
in the West IMO have obvious flaws.

a bunch of teams can still win the 1 seed (Vegas is in the drivers seat right now), but I believe Dallas is the most complete team in the West. Also, EDM caught fire at the right time, but same thing IMO will plague them as last year.

I think EDM set the record last year in the playoffs for most games scoring 5 goals and losing. Maybe even this regular season too.
knowing the islanders  
KDubbs : 4/10/2023 10:40 pm : link
somehow the pens will lose 2morrow and then the canadiens will have 2 busloads of fans at UBS weds and beat the isles.
this is pretty impressive from Karlsson  
pjcas18 : 4/10/2023 10:48 pm : link


tatsCentre
@StatsCentre
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Defencemen to have a 100+ point season in NHL history:
@SanJoseSharks
Erik Karlsson (2022-23 via 2 goals so far tonight against the Jets)
Brian Leetch (1991-92)
Al MacInnis (1990-91)
Paul Coffey (4 times: 1983-86, 1988-89)
Denis Potvin (1978-79)
Bobby Orr (6 times from 1969-75)
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Route 9 : 4/10/2023 11:12 pm : link
I remember that. Leetch had like 80 assists that year.
Buffao  
Percy : 4/10/2023 11:15 pm : link
Played tough, down to their last cards. Will do the unthinkable and watch them v. the Devils tomorrow.
RE: knowing the islanders  
5BowlsSoon : 4/11/2023 7:11 am : link
In comment 16085627 KDubbs said:
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somehow the pens will lose 2morrow and then the canadiens will have 2 busloads of fans at UBS weds and beat the isles.


Have you seen the Habs roster? It is 3/4 an AHL team. I felt so bad for St Louis when my boys (Leafs) destroyed them this past Saturday. I don’t see how they could beat the Isles at home unless Isles players play fearfully and Habs goalie is playing like Carey Price.
Seedings  
pjcas18 : 4/11/2023 7:50 am : link
are all over the place now in the Metro.

CAR, NJD, and NYR all within 2 points of each other. NYR playing the best of the three - they have one game left and need to win it and have CAR lose their last two, and NJD only get one point in their last two to have a shot at the 2 seed.

Now no one wants the two seed because it looks like you could be playing FLA. What a prize for the Bruins if someone FLA winds up WC2. A 7 game series vs Tkachuk and Barkov as the prize for President's Trophy?

Ouch.

Atlantic locked in.

Wild card still wide open. NYI and FLA failed to pull away. Pens (and even the Sabres) on life support.

West seeding is still in the air.

Today's meaningful games:

BUF @NJD (Luke Hughes debut?, not to mention playoff seeding implications)

DET @CAR
CHI @PIT
WIN @MIN
EDM @COL
SEA @LVG


RE: Seedings  
KDubbs : 4/11/2023 8:10 am : link
In comment 16085688 pjcas18 said:
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are all over the place now in the Metro.

CAR, NJD, and NYR all within 2 points of each other. NYR playing the best of the three - they have one game left and need to win it and have CAR lose their last two, and NJD only get one point in their last two to have a shot at the 2 seed.

Now no one wants the two seed because it looks like you could be playing FLA. What a prize for the Bruins if someone FLA winds up WC2. A 7 game series vs Tkachuk and Barkov as the prize for President's Trophy?

Ouch.

Atlantic locked in.

Wild card still wide open. NYI and FLA failed to pull away. Pens (and even the Sabres) on life support.

West seeding is still in the air.

Today's meaningful games:

BUF @NJD (Luke Hughes debut?, not to mention playoff seeding implications)

DET @CAR
CHI @PIT
WIN @MIN
EDM @COL
SEA @LVG



why are pens on life support? they just need to beat the 2 worst teams in the NHL to beat the isles.
RE: RE: knowing the islanders  
KDubbs : 4/11/2023 8:13 am : link
In comment 16085681 5BowlsSoon said:
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somehow the pens will lose 2morrow and then the canadiens will have 2 busloads of fans at UBS weds and beat the isles.



Have you seen the Habs roster? It is 3/4 an AHL team. I felt so bad for St Louis when my boys (Leafs) destroyed them this past Saturday. I don’t see how they could beat the Isles at home unless Isles players play fearfully and Habs goalie is playing like Carey Price.


Just being an isles fan. I expect the worst. They crapped the bed last night against the caps with no Ovi or Oshie. And I just have nightmares of past Habs games at the Coliseum where they had like 2-3 busloads of fans there and they got to celebrate many a victory
Lane Hutson  
pjcas18 : 4/11/2023 8:15 am : link
back to BU (reportedly). Good, maybe he'll grow another inch.
RE: RE: RE: knowing the islanders  
5BowlsSoon : 4/11/2023 9:01 am : link
In comment 16085701 KDubbs said:
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somehow the pens will lose 2morrow and then the canadiens will have 2 busloads of fans at UBS weds and beat the isles.



Have you seen the Habs roster? It is 3/4 an AHL team. I felt so bad for St Louis when my boys (Leafs) destroyed them this past Saturday. I don’t see how they could beat the Isles at home unless Isles players play fearfully and Habs goalie is playing like Carey Price.



Just being an isles fan. I expect the worst. They crapped the bed last night against the caps with no Ovi or Oshie. And I just have nightmares of past Habs games at the Coliseum where they had like 2-3 busloads of fans there and they got to celebrate many a victory


I think you can relax a bit today…it won’t happen…..but if it does happen, do you really want to see your boys in the playoffs playing the Bruins? Let the Bruins beat up the Penguins or Panthers instead.
RE: RE: RE: RE: knowing the islanders  
JayBinQueens : 4/11/2023 9:03 am : link
In comment 16085721 5BowlsSoon said:
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somehow the pens will lose 2morrow and then the canadiens will have 2 busloads of fans at UBS weds and beat the isles.



Have you seen the Habs roster? It is 3/4 an AHL team. I felt so bad for St Louis when my boys (Leafs) destroyed them this past Saturday. I don’t see how they could beat the Isles at home unless Isles players play fearfully and Habs goalie is playing like Carey Price.



Just being an isles fan. I expect the worst. They crapped the bed last night against the caps with no Ovi or Oshie. And I just have nightmares of past Habs games at the Coliseum where they had like 2-3 busloads of fans there and they got to celebrate many a victory



I think you can relax a bit today…it won’t happen…..but if it does happen, do you really want to see your boys in the playoffs playing the Bruins? Let the Bruins beat up the Penguins or Panthers instead.


Would it be likely that Bruins steamroll their first round opponent? Of course. Getting Sorokin into the playoffs though is dangerous and anything can happen
I am hopeful  
pjcas18 : 4/11/2023 9:27 am : link
it's Bruins Panthers or Islanders 1st round. No Penguins.

I know the "no one wants to play them" phrase is cliched but I really think no one wants either FLA or NYI.

Now that's not to say the other playoff teams someone wants to face, it's just a testament to how loaded the East is.

You expect to be rewarded for the 1 or 2 seed with a hugely favorable matchup and that will not be the case this year in the East. Unless PIT gets in and then I think they get swept or lose in 5, they are gassed, old and top heavy.
I get that facing the Panthers is no picnic  
Stu11 : 4/11/2023 9:28 am : link
But I'm really pulling for the Devs to win the division. The nice thing about playing Florida as opposed to the Rangers is that we would have a real home ice advantage crowd wise plus it's not like it's impossible to go into Florida and win a big game. On top of that winning the division means we could possibly play Pittsburgh. I think it would mean a lot to a young team to take the division. Have to coach my son's baseball game tonight but definitely gonna record it especially if Luke suits up as it will be very interesting to see how he fits into the NHL game right off the bat.
RE: RE: RE: RE: knowing the islanders  
KDubbs : 4/11/2023 10:07 am : link
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somehow the pens will lose 2morrow and then the canadiens will have 2 busloads of fans at UBS weds and beat the isles.



Have you seen the Habs roster? It is 3/4 an AHL team. I felt so bad for St Louis when my boys (Leafs) destroyed them this past Saturday. I don’t see how they could beat the Isles at home unless Isles players play fearfully and Habs goalie is playing like Carey Price.



Just being an isles fan. I expect the worst. They crapped the bed last night against the caps with no Ovi or Oshie. And I just have nightmares of past Habs games at the Coliseum where they had like 2-3 busloads of fans there and they got to celebrate many a victory



I think you can relax a bit today…it won’t happen…..but if it does happen, do you really want to see your boys in the playoffs playing the Bruins? Let the Bruins beat up the Penguins or Panthers instead.


If Barzal was able to play and Sorokin on top of his game, I'd like at least the opportunity to see what happens. I love a lot of these isles players and its coming time where they are gonna be gone so I'd like at least a shot for them
either way I think Carolina is a great matchup for anyone right now  
Stu11 : 4/11/2023 10:11 am : link
they really miss Svesh and they won a lot of circus trick type games this year where they tied or won it with like less than 10 seconds left an then won OT/shootout to steal 2 points.
Devastating loss for NYI last night  
Metnut : 4/11/2023 10:17 am : link
Haven't seen a regular season hockey game frustrate me this much in my memory. Just brutal.
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BrettNYG10 : 4/11/2023 11:13 am : link
Panthers scare me if I'm a division winner. I don't think they'd beat Boston but I do think they'd give them a tough series.

I think they can beat the Metro division winner, though.
Luke Hughes will make his debut tonight  
Stu11 : 4/11/2023 1:16 pm : link
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RE: Luke Hughes will make his debut tonight  
Jay on the Island : 4/11/2023 2:58 pm : link
In comment 16085976 Stu11 said:
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I’m definitely recording this one. I wonder if they are going to bench Bahl or go with an 11-7 lineup. I’d prefer 11-7 with Wood sitting because Bahl has really improved this season and deserves to play.
Jack can't stop smiling  
pjcas18 : 4/11/2023 3:17 pm : link
- every picture I see with him and Luke, Jack has a big smile on his face.

RE: RE: Luke Hughes will make his debut tonight  
Stu11 : 4/11/2023 3:18 pm : link
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I’m definitely recording this one. I wonder if they are going to bench Bahl or go with an 11-7 lineup. I’d prefer 11-7 with Wood sitting because Bahl has really improved this season and deserves to play.

I agree about Bahl. He is really showing he is a legit NHL regular. I feel that Foote can be the same if given the opportunity. Man both ends of the Taylor Hall trade really paid off for us. First we stole him for Larsen and he gave us our only playoff trip in 10 years with a Hart winning performance, then we traded him for Bahl and what turns out to be Dawson Mercer.
RE: RE: RE: Luke Hughes will make his debut tonight  
Jay on the Island : 4/11/2023 4:33 pm : link
In comment 16086087 Stu11 said:
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I agree about Bahl. He is really showing he is a legit NHL regular. I feel that Foote can be the same if given the opportunity. Man both ends of the Taylor Hall trade really paid off for us. First we stole him for Larsen and he gave us our only playoff trip in 10 years with a Hart winning performance, then we traded him for Bahl and what turns out to be Dawson Mercer.

From what I read the plan is for Foote to become a regular next season replacing Wood on the roster. I pray that’s the case because I don’t want Wood back even for the league minimum. The Devils need to open up spots for Foote, Holtz, and Clarke.
Man how crazy is it that I forgot about Holtz!  
Stu11 : 4/11/2023 4:58 pm : link
That's how far he's fallen off the radar these past few months.
One more complaint:  
Anakim : 4/11/2023 5:15 pm : link
Kane on PP1 is clearly not working. Tarasenko looked much better on PP1 than Kane did. Put Kane on PP2 with Trouba, Trocheck and the kids.
two milestones  
pjcas18 : 4/11/2023 5:56 pm : link
Claude Giroux (35 years old) and Joe Pavelski (38) each recently recorded their 1,000th NHL point which is an awesome achievement.

Sidney Crosby (35 years old) recently recorded his 1500th, which is even more awesome.

for some perspective, Wayne Gretzky was 23 years old when he recorded his 1,000th point and he was 26 years old when he recorded his 1,500th point.

And that does not include the 220 points Wayne scored in the WHA before EDM joined the NHL.
......  
Route 9 : 4/11/2023 8:28 pm : link
Just ordered a Wayne Gretzky Rangers jersey on NHL.com. They had some 60% off special so I thought why not? Wear it for the playoff games if they play NJ.
LOL at the Yinz  
Anakim : 4/11/2023 9:53 pm : link
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pitt says hold my beer isles  
Eric on Li : 4/11/2023 10:07 pm : link
chicago had lost 11 of their last 12 all by more than 1 goal. unreal.
thank you hawks  
KDubbs : 4/11/2023 10:08 pm : link
and go canes. would love a chance to win 2morrow and then avoid the bruins
Isles given a shot at redemption  
Metnut : 4/11/2023 10:24 pm : link
Gotta come out flying at home tomorrow.
I wonder how hard Florida tries Thursday  
Stu11 : 4/11/2023 10:38 pm : link
Do they care about missing Boston? Or after a long hard come from behind run to make the playoffs do they rest people and take it easy?
......  
Route 9 : 4/12/2023 4:46 am : link
Anyone have any idea when the schedule for the playoffs comes out?
RE: ......  
pjcas18 : 4/12/2023 7:45 am : link
In comment 16086348 Route 9 said:
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Anyone have any idea when the schedule for the playoffs comes out?


got to be this week, but probably need to wait and see who has home ice in each series.
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Stu11 : 4/12/2023 7:52 am : link
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Anyone have any idea when the schedule for the playoffs comes out?



got to be this week, but probably need to wait and see who has home ice in each series.

Yeah probably tomorrow night or later Friday during the day we'll get the schedule.
The West  
pjcas18 : 4/12/2023 7:57 am : link
locked up all the playoff spots.

still some seeding to be determined in the final 3 days, but here is what we know for both conferences:

EAST
Atlantic (all locked up)
BOS #1 overall seed
TOR ATL #2, home ice vs TBL
TBL ATL #2,

Metro
NYR #3, road team vs Metro #2

CAR 111pts with 1 left, NJD 110pts with 1 left. NJD owns tiebreakers with CAR, so if they wind up tied in pts NJD wins the division.

Wild card
FLA 92pts 1 left. clinched playoff spot, could still be WC1 or WC2

NYI 91pts 1 left (vs MTL tonight). NYI need just to get to OT to clinch the final WC because they own the tiebreakers with PIT - MTL team has 3 NHL players on it, so it should be easy for NYI, but nothing in hockey is easy.

PIT 90pts 1 left, does not control their destiny

West - basically all the seedings are up for grabs - close races in both divisions except we know WIN is WC2 and MIN is Central #3. I don't think anything else is definite yet because SEA and LAK could flip flop on WC1 and Pacific #3 and then the rest of the teams are within striking distance of each other with 1 or 2 left to play.

Only consequential game(s) tonight:
MTL @NYI


DAL @STL but that's really just possible seeding since DAL can still catch COL.
TBL  
pjcas18 : 4/12/2023 7:57 am : link
should be Atlantic #3
have to say  
bigbluehoya : 4/12/2023 8:09 am : link
I honestly (as a NYR fan) don't know who I'd prefer to play R1.

I hate playing against the CAR style of play, but NJD are a wagon.

Gun to my head maybe I prefer to eliminate travel entirely and have maybe a 50/50 crowd or 60/40 advantage at Prudential?

Feels like it's an absolute dog-fight either way.
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Route 9 : 4/12/2023 8:19 am : link
How are those games in Newark? Do they fill up the place on a regular basis?

I went to one last year where the Devils won like 7-3 or something against the Rangers. Didn't seem like there were that many Rangers fans compared to the Meadowlands days.

I hope they have a better attendance showing than they did when they were by Giants Stadium. I went to some Devils games deep into the playoffs in 2003 and it was a sad showing lol
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Route 9 : 4/12/2023 8:20 am : link
I went to the game the Rangers beat the Devils in 1997 where Adam Graves scored the game winning goal. I'd say the place was 75% Rangers fans lol
The East  
pjcas18 : 4/12/2023 8:20 am : link
is going to be a grind, like running a gauntlet.

Say you are the Rangers for example. You (may) need to knock off Carolina in the 1st round. then they play the Devils/Panthers winner (possibly) then the Bruins (if they hold serve).

of course we know there will be upsets, but the East is going to be a battle this year.

Not to say the West won't be, but they don't have the goalies IMO, so it will be a more free-wheeling style, last year EDM set the all-time NHL record for the most playoff losses in a single playoff when you score 5 or more goals.

I think this year could be similar.

DAL (and finally I'll admit LVG) have very complete teams though. DAL is the only one I think has a goalie who can elevate enough to steal games.
......  
Route 9 : 4/12/2023 8:24 am : link
I don't think I've seen a tougher road on one side have you?

It's going to be like surviving a war zone.
......  
Route 9 : 4/12/2023 8:27 am : link
I hope it's Rangers vs Kraken in the SCF and the Rangers win the whole thing in Seattle. I know people out there.
RE: ......  
pjcas18 : 4/12/2023 8:45 am : link
In comment 16086383 Route 9 said:
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I don't think I've seen a tougher road on one side have you?

It's going to be like surviving a war zone.


No, off the top of my head I don't remember a tougher conference.

I can see all 8 teams from the East (assuming NYI not PIT for the other WC spot) win the cup.

Maybe the Maple Leafs would be my 8 seed if I ranked them due to being mentally weak and not winning a playoff series in decades.

but even by that standard, TOR is a great team who will probably lose to TBL, but if they do it's also a commentary on how good TBL is vs how weak TOR is.
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