I’d let him walk next year regardless if he makes the team use the franchise tag on him. Go get your money elsewhere and regress with another coaching staff.
It wasn't a great season but a very good one for him 1 season. you transition tag him and let some other team set the market for him of keep him for 32.4 million, if another does go after him you get to decide if you want to pay the $ of youll gladly take their next 2 1st rounders. That is the only move.
Nothing on planet earth will make me believe that jones
What happens if he gets injured this year, tears an ACL, etc?! If it’s a 4 year deal worth around 38 with incentives a year, for goodness sakes, why not take such a deal? Does his reps really think he’s worth more then that? He’s not a top 10 QB yet either IMV and shouldn’t even be paid as much.
At some point, you have to be realistic. I think he’s set the bar way too high, and now it’s going to jeopardize the supporting cast around him (Barkley, cap space, etc)
This can come back to haunt him. He gets tagged, no long term agreement. Gets exposed without Saquon and no upgrades at WR. And now he’s in Sam Darnold/Baker Mayfield territory next off-season.
Complete buffoon, letting Jones Scummy new agents feed him bullshit. BTW good, thats the stance I want to take if Im the Giants anyway. Just play for your 32.4 this year and lets go bitch.
I don’t think this demand equates to that conclusion. But if true it will be tough to lose this guy, especially as it seems Giants really want to keep him
Seems like a tag, which is not what I wanted. But it makes the decision about easier
At some point, you have to be realistic. I think he’s set the bar way too high, and now it’s going to jeopardize the supporting cast around him (Barkley, cap space, etc)
This can come back to haunt him. He gets tagged, no long term agreement. Gets exposed without Saquon and no upgrades at WR. And now he’s in Sam Darnold/Baker Mayfield territory next off-season.
I’m a giants fan but jeez part of me wants tgis and to see his fucking face when he isn’t getting offered a few bucks to be a teams qb next offseason.
And if that proves to be the case, let his agent explore tag and trades before UFA. If there isn't a market there above what the Giants are offering, then their position completely shatters.
I think he does and he just knows the Mara's and their feelings about him will force a buckle. I'd say given the news and the way it has played out i'd be very surprised if he isn't signed to the long term deal at $40M+ AAV.
All of these "hey they are meeting again" situations show it is the Giants who are desperate to get something done. Otherwise they should just be like, hey, we are tagging you, you come back to us when you have a more reasonable number.
The Giants are the one with the trump card but it is playing out as Jones exerting the leverage here time and time again. Because he knows how ownership feels about him
I’ve wondered if that’s the case. It’s entirely possible his agents have had “we’re not really talking” chats with Carolina about their interest in paying him
I don’t think this demand equates to that conclusion. But if true it will be tough to lose this guy, especially as it seems Giants really want to keep him
Seems like a tag, which is not what I wanted. But it makes the decision about easier
But tag hasn’t been announced yet makes me think there is still a chance
with everyone who says that Jones is taking a big risk by not signing, especially since the two sides are obviously close. He could get hurt or not play well, or both, this season. Is that risk really worth a little extra money? I respect his right to get every penny, but at some point pursuing those last few dollars seems foolish. Not greedy, just unwise.
The world was so much better before Curt Flood ...
The consensus on his work ethic and leadership (apparently going above and beyond) doesn't track to a guy who doesn't want to be around a particular team.
Fuck jones
Tag Barkley load up team. Go and trade 2 firsts for Lamar
I joked last week about that. You might be right.
Fuck jones
Tag Barkley load up team. Go and trade 2 firsts for Lamar
How are you paying Lamar and loading up the team?
I'm curious, what would you take in return since nobody would presumably trade two firsts for Jones?
This if you find a fool to go along with it....
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I joked last week about that. You might be right.
I had this thought months ago but dismissed it. I agree...he might be forcing his way out.
Agreed.
No wonder the Giants met with Richardson at the combine.
If he’s great then it’s a good problem to then have to pay him.
At some point, you have to be realistic. I think he’s set the bar way too high, and now it’s going to jeopardize the supporting cast around him (Barkley, cap space, etc)
This can come back to haunt him. He gets tagged, no long term agreement. Gets exposed without Saquon and no upgrades at WR. And now he’s in Sam Darnold/Baker Mayfield territory next off-season.
I don’t think this demand equates to that conclusion. But if true it will be tough to lose this guy, especially as it seems Giants really want to keep him
Seems like a tag, which is not what I wanted. But it makes the decision about easier
This has my attention. It would be a ballsy move by Schoen.
+1. The NEFT is a good option for the team. And I am ok with losing Saquon.
Yep, could end up that way.
No wonder the Giants met with Richardson at the combine.
That’s not the guy! I’ll take the Dallas backup over that guy.
At some point, you have to be realistic. I think he’s set the bar way too high, and now it’s going to jeopardize the supporting cast around him (Barkley, cap space, etc)
This can come back to haunt him. He gets tagged, no long term agreement. Gets exposed without Saquon and no upgrades at WR. And now he’s in Sam Darnold/Baker Mayfield territory next off-season.
I’m a giants fan but jeez part of me wants tgis and to see his fucking face when he isn’t getting offered a few bucks to be a teams qb next offseason.
I think he does and he just knows the Mara's and their feelings about him will force a buckle. I'd say given the news and the way it has played out i'd be very surprised if he isn't signed to the long term deal at $40M+ AAV.
All of these "hey they are meeting again" situations show it is the Giants who are desperate to get something done. Otherwise they should just be like, hey, we are tagging you, you come back to us when you have a more reasonable number.
The Giants are the one with the trump card but it is playing out as Jones exerting the leverage here time and time again. Because he knows how ownership feels about him
The way things were going, had that impression last week.
I’ve wondered if that’s the case. It’s entirely possible his agents have had “we’re not really talking” chats with Carolina about their interest in paying him
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I don’t think this demand equates to that conclusion. But if true it will be tough to lose this guy, especially as it seems Giants really want to keep him
Seems like a tag, which is not what I wanted. But it makes the decision about easier
But tag hasn’t been announced yet makes me think there is still a chance
Then he's welcome to ply his wares elsewhere.
I won't miss him.
The consensus on his work ethic and leadership (apparently going above and beyond) doesn't track to a guy who doesn't want to be around a particular team.