Mike Garafolo
@MikeGarafolo
The #Giants and QB Daniel Jones beat the clock on the franchise tag, agreeing to terms on a long-term deal, sources tell me and
@RapSheet
.
Jones’ agents and the team worked hard to get this deal done in time. Jones has six fourth-quarter comebacks in his career. Make it seven.
wait for the numbers, but tagging SB is an immediate $10M cap hit, so I assume the year one hit for Jones's contract will be manageable in order to give them enough cap space to sign some FAs.
Tom Rock
@TomRock_Newsday
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It was always going to be fiscally challenging to bring both Jones and Barkley back for 2023. The Giants have figured out a way to do that. Hard, creative work.
Will need to see how much GTD, cap hits in years 3 and 4, how the dead money breaks down.
I’m okay with the deal. Okay with 40 AAV. He can run the offense,and he ran it at a high level down the stretch. He’s 25, has upside.
If you have any doubt- remember that Schoen and Daboll are smart - they’ve had him in the building, they know his worth better than we do. And they didn’t have to pay him- this was not their draft pick.
wait for the numbers, but tagging SB is an immediate $10M cap hit, so I assume the year one hit for Jones's contract will be manageable in order to give them enough cap space to sign some FAs.
They can still work out a deal with SB, so the cap hit could be lower
wait for the numbers, but tagging SB is an immediate $10M cap hit, so I assume the year one hit for Jones's contract will be manageable in order to give them enough cap space to sign some FAs.
I think I read that even with, say a 3 year deal with Barkley, the year 1 cap hit would still be $6-$7M.
Will need to see how much GTD, cap hits in years 3 and 4, how the dead money breaks down.
I’m okay with the deal. Okay with 40 AAV. He can run the offense,and he ran it at a high level down the stretch. He’s 25, has upside.
49aav if he plays like mahomes
If you have any doubt- remember that Schoen and Daboll are smart - they’ve had him in the building, they know his worth better than we do. And they didn’t have to pay him- this was not their draft pick.
who turned lemons into lemonade this year while throwing a league low # of picks. Puts him in Prescott & Stafford territory around 8th/9th in average per year while probably coming in less on the fully guarentees.
RE: If more money is in signing bonus that means cap hit goes down
wait for the numbers, but tagging SB is an immediate $10M cap hit, so I assume the year one hit for Jones's contract will be manageable in order to give them enough cap space to sign some FAs.
They can still work out a deal with SB, so the cap hit could be lower
True.
RE: If more money is in signing bonus that means cap hit goes down
Tom Rock
@TomRock_Newsday
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It was always going to be fiscally challenging to bring both Jones and Barkley back for 2023. The Giants have figured out a way to do that. Hard, creative work.
@MikeGarafolo
The #Giants and QB Daniel Jones beat the clock on the franchise tag, agreeing to terms on a long-term deal, sources tell me and
@RapSheet
.
Jones’ agents and the team worked hard to get this deal done in time. Jones has six fourth-quarter comebacks in his career. Make it seven.
@art_stapleton
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Giants and Daniel Jones have agreed on a 4-year deal, source confirms, as
@rydunleavy
said.
Giants are tagging Saquon Barkley, per source.
GOOD JOB BY JS
versus the OVERPAY BY JS related threads
@TomRock_Newsday
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It was always going to be fiscally challenging to bring both Jones and Barkley back for 2023. The Giants have figured out a way to do that. Hard, creative work.
Now we wait to see if there is wisdom to it.
Will need to see how much GTD, cap hits in years 3 and 4, how the dead money breaks down.
I’m okay with the deal. Okay with 40 AAV. He can run the offense,and he ran it at a high level down the stretch. He’s 25, has upside.
If you have any doubt- remember that Schoen and Daboll are smart - they’ve had him in the building, they know his worth better than we do. And they didn’t have to pay him- this was not their draft pick.
They can still work out a deal with SB, so the cap hit could be lower
I think I read that even with, say a 3 year deal with Barkley, the year 1 cap hit would still be $6-$7M.
Will need to see how much GTD, cap hits in years 3 and 4, how the dead money breaks down.
I’m okay with the deal. Okay with 40 AAV. He can run the offense,and he ran it at a high level down the stretch. He’s 25, has upside.
49aav if he plays like mahomes
If you have any doubt- remember that Schoen and Daboll are smart - they’ve had him in the building, they know his worth better than we do. And they didn’t have to pay him- this was not their draft pick.
Not really. It’s only a 4 year deal so you can only amortize so much
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wait for the numbers, but tagging SB is an immediate $10M cap hit, so I assume the year one hit for Jones's contract will be manageable in order to give them enough cap space to sign some FAs.
They can still work out a deal with SB, so the cap hit could be lower
True.
Lol, yea good luck with that
I don't know. Maybe write Schoen and Daboll a letter and ask them?
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correct?
Not really. It’s only a 4 year deal so you can only amortize so much
Guaranteed that 4th year is a cap void year. Likely gives Giants at least 25m in amortization.
@BobbySkinner_
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Daniel Jones’s $40M AAV is 17.7% of the 2023 salary cap.
To compare other unrestricted free agents:
Dak Prescott 21.9%
Kirk Cousins 15.8%
Ryan Tannehill 14.9%
Seems Daniel Jones has set a new precedent for the middle class. Him and his agents won this.
Generally speaking, you spread the signing bonus over the length of the contract. But you can also get creative around that, too.
We just need to see more details.
@NYGDaily
Jones gets $82M guaranteed over the first two years, per
@TomPelissero
@TomRock_Newsday
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It was always going to be fiscally challenging to bring both Jones and Barkley back for 2023. The Giants have figured out a way to do that. Hard, creative work.
Now we wait to see if there is wisdom to it.
Tom Rock, spot on..Hard, creative work indeed