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Jones gets $82M guaranteed over the first two years, per
@TomPelissero
82 GTD over the first two years means there is no escape hatch after 2 years. That, or there is barely any cap relief vs the tag, which wouldn't make any sense
Mind putting the rhetoric aside for just a few minutes? Let's celebrate the signing, thinking JS and BD made the right evaluation. You can go back on the attack later.
Everybody knows DJ has to live up to expectations. Duh.
Tom Rock
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It was always going to be fiscally challenging to bring both Jones and Barkley back for 2023. The Giants have figured out a way to do that. Hard, creative work.
It will be the Mara excuse for certain. You will hear a little bit of Schoen lacks experience in negotiating contracts like these but most of the excuses will center on Mara.
What we will not hear is that their perception of Jones' worth was so much different than Schoen's because they were wrong.
Giants Daily
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Jones gets $82M guaranteed over the first two years, per
@TomPelissero
82 GTD over the first two years means there is no escape hatch after 2 years. That, or there is barely any cap relief vs the tag, which wouldn't make any sense
I think it means the opposite. I don’t think he’d get more than $100m guaranteed so that only leaves $18m spread over two years. Not ideal but not a death blow.
Fours years and beaucoup bucks, but if he delivers then extend him long term after two years and mitigate the back-end cap. Only the first two years matter here.
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It was always going to be fiscally challenging to bring both Jones and Barkley back for 2023. The Giants have figured out a way to do that. Hard, creative work.
So awesome! Plan A for the offseason likely still in effect!
We keep a QB we can solidly win a SuperBowl with. We probably minimize our 1st and maybe 2nd year cap hit....we get to FT Barkley for a pretty manageable number...we modify/extend one of both of Williams and Dex, possibly Adoree to clear more cap space and off we go into FA!
Go GIANTS!!!
The next 2 year cap hits is the BIGGEST info I want to know right now
Tom Rock
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It was always going to be fiscally challenging to bring both Jones and Barkley back for 2023. The Giants have figured out a way to do that. Hard, creative work.
Now we wait to see if there is wisdom to it.
Tom Rock, spot on..Hard, creative work indeed
Great. Since we have no other holes to fill.
WTF are you talking about? They NOW can address other areas..JFC
Depending on the structure of the deal, he will likely be the 13th or 14th highest paid QB once Hurts, Lamar, Burrow, and Herbert get their $45+ extensions.
Depending on the structure of the deal, he will likely be the 13th or 14th highest paid QB once Hurts, Lamar, Burrow, and Herbert get their $45+ extensions.
Not gonna talk shit yet, but OH MY…..
CAP HIT IN 23?
lol
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Jones gets $82M guaranteed over the first two years, per
@TomPelissero
Really? Curious to see how that money is spread over 2023 and 2024.
Two years ago. Huge difference.
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Jones gets $82M guaranteed over the first two years, per
@TomPelissero
82 GTD over the first two years means there is no escape hatch after 2 years. That, or there is barely any cap relief vs the tag, which wouldn't make any sense
Mind putting the rhetoric aside for just a few minutes? Let's celebrate the signing, thinking JS and BD made the right evaluation. You can go back on the attack later.
Everybody knows DJ has to live up to expectations. Duh.
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Tom Rock
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It was always going to be fiscally challenging to bring both Jones and Barkley back for 2023. The Giants have figured out a way to do that. Hard, creative work.
Now we wait to see if there is wisdom to it.
Tom Rock, spot on..Hard, creative work indeed
Great. Since we have no other holes to fill.
Keep dying on that hill. They ended in the 2022 season but whatever works for you.
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Keep dying on that hill. They ended in the 2022 season but whatever works for you.
They did? Then why do we keep hearing about the WRs?
shocking, huh joeinpa?
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Was 4yrs 160M, 126 total gtd, 96 gtd at signing. For comparison once details emerge.
Two years ago. Huge difference.
Dumbass Jerry Jones.
Not gonna talk shit yet, but OH MY…..
What we will not hear is that their perception of Jones' worth was so much different than Schoen's because they were wrong.
Now it’s time to build the roster.
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Giants Daily
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Jones gets $82M guaranteed over the first two years, per
@TomPelissero
Really? Curious to see how that money is spread over 2023 and 2024.
That's the cash in Jones' pocket.
For the cap, a lot of that will be spread over the four years.
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Jones gets $82M guaranteed over the first two years, per
@TomPelissero
82 GTD over the first two years means there is no escape hatch after 2 years. That, or there is barely any cap relief vs the tag, which wouldn't make any sense
I think it means the opposite. I don’t think he’d get more than $100m guaranteed so that only leaves $18m spread over two years. Not ideal but not a death blow.
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Was 4yrs 160M, 126 total gtd, 96 gtd at signing. For comparison once details emerge.
Two years ago. Huge difference.
Obviously some inflation there but it's worth contextualizing how the guarantees breakdown under similar terms.
Same. Trying to settle myself for what's coming
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Daniel Jones’s $40M AAV is 17.7% of the 2023 salary cap.
To compare other unrestricted free agents:
Dak Prescott 21.9%
Kirk Cousins 15.8%
Ryan Tannehill 14.9%
Seems Daniel Jones has set a new precedent for the middle class. Him and his agents won this.
That seems a bit off, 2023 value will be less..
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Keep dying on that hill. They ended in the 2022 season but whatever works for you.
They did? Then why do we keep hearing about the WRs?
football is a fucking team sport. Its not an excuse that the team needs better wrs
Not gonna talk shit yet, but OH MY…..
Maybe wait to talk shit until he plays a few games as a $40 million QB, or you might end up eating it.
I wanted 5 years because I wanted a small cap hit 2023. Very interested in the details now.
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It was always going to be fiscally challenging to bring both Jones and Barkley back for 2023. The Giants have figured out a way to do that. Hard, creative work.
Now we wait to see if there is wisdom to it.
Indeed. Thank Christ.
Will it also end the era of dissecting Jones play weekly with hundreds of posts?? Since it supposedly was done in the vein of figuring out his worth??
I'm guessing not.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/11lb3by/rapoport_its_going_to_be_a_4year_deal_worth_160m/
No way, the first year of Jones' contract on the cap is WAY below $40 million. In fact it has to be way below the $32M tag number
So awesome! Plan A for the offseason likely still in effect!
We keep a QB we can solidly win a SuperBowl with. We probably minimize our 1st and maybe 2nd year cap hit....we get to FT Barkley for a pretty manageable number...we modify/extend one of both of Williams and Dex, possibly Adoree to clear more cap space and off we go into FA!
Go GIANTS!!!
The next 2 year cap hits is the BIGGEST info I want to know right now
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Will it also end the era of dissecting Jones play weekly with hundreds of posts?? Since it supposedly was done in the vein of figuring out his worth??
I'm guessing not.
Daniel Jones won the day. I think the Giants will win the future as a result.
It’s become hard enough to win paying elite QBs elite QB money. The Giants are going to try to win while paying an average QB elite QB money.
Hope he proves me wrong.
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It was always going to be fiscally challenging to bring both Jones and Barkley back for 2023. The Giants have figured out a way to do that. Hard, creative work.
Now we wait to see if there is wisdom to it.
Tom Rock, spot on..Hard, creative work indeed
Great. Since we have no other holes to fill.
WTF are you talking about? They NOW can address other areas..JFC
LOL...yeah right.
There will be a fresh batch of them if Jones fails to produce.
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Will it also end the era of dissecting Jones play weekly with hundreds of posts?? Since it supposedly was done in the vein of figuring out his worth??
I'm guessing not.
Is it in vain if I don’t care about being wrong or right? Was your Gettleman slurping in vein too?
It’s become hard enough to win paying elite QBs elite QB money. The Giants are going to try to win while paying an average QB elite QB money.
Hope he proves me wrong.
Idiot
Glad he's back. Let's win some fuckin games.
Depending on the structure of the deal, he will likely be the 13th or 14th highest paid QB once Hurts, Lamar, Burrow, and Herbert get their $45+ extensions.
It's reasonable.
Now it’s time to build the roster.
how can anyone have watched the eagles games and think we're in a super bowl window
Jets' owner, GM and head coach are flying to meet with Rodgers.
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Keep dying on that hill. They ended in the 2022 season but whatever works for you.
They did? Then why do we keep hearing about the WRs?
LOL, so are you saying that the WR’s aren’t a problem? No need to seriously upgrade the unit?
It’s not an excuse, it’s a fact; the unit is pretty bad. Maybe bumped up to mediocre on their best day.
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A $50 million cap hit next season,
No way, the first year of Jones' contract on the cap is WAY below $40 million. In fact it has to be way below the $32M tag number
Report said $82 million guaranteed the first two years.
Depending on the structure of the deal, he will likely be the 13th or 14th highest paid QB once Hurts, Lamar, Burrow, and Herbert get their $45+ extensions.
It's reasonable.
I’ve been trying to say this for a while now.
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Led by Jones & Barkley. Probably a 3 year window since I’d imagine Barkley is signed too.
Now it’s time to build the roster.
how can anyone have watched the eagles games and think we're in a super bowl window
I don’t get this logic. The Giants just made a massive commitment to Jones and are bringing back Barkley. And this is the reaction?