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Fat Wally : 3/7/2023 3:57 pm
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Good  
illmatic : 3/7/2023 3:59 pm : link
Hopefully they can work out something long term soon. If not, draft a RB or two and he probably walks next year.
Good  
eric2425ny : 3/7/2023 3:59 pm : link
Here comes the “we could have easily replaced him with a third rounder crowd”
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/7/2023 4:00 pm : link
Jordan Raanan
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Wouldn't be surprised to see a long-term deal for Saquon Barkley follow relatively soon. Before the start of free agency.
Best-case, imo.  
Beezer : 3/7/2023 4:01 pm : link
Good.
great news!  
Rjanyg : 3/7/2023 4:02 pm : link
JS getting things done!
Awesome!  
Jim in Tampa : 3/7/2023 4:02 pm : link
As a fan, I wanted to keep both Jones and Barkley.

Giants will likely try to get a deal done with Barkley (probably for three years) with an AAV of $12.5M. And Barkley would be foolish not to sign that deal.

If he chooses not to sign a LTD, it's not that big a hit on the cap this year.
RE: Good  
Sammo85 : 3/7/2023 4:02 pm : link
In comment 16055251 eric2425ny said:
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Here comes the “we could have easily replaced him with a third rounder crowd”


His value becomes pronounced more if there's a reliable platoon RB with him. Breida is a nice veteran, but he's a #3.

Giants did a lot of homework on Bigsby apparently at Combine.

I still expect a RB, maybe even in the 3rd!
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barens : 3/7/2023 4:02 pm : link
In comment 16055256 Eric from BBI said:
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Jordan Raanan
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Wouldn't be surprised to see a long-term deal for Saquon Barkley follow relatively soon. Before the start of free agency.


When he says long term, is that in running back years?
I believe the Giants will  
Simms11 : 3/7/2023 4:02 pm : link
be looking to draft SBs successor this year. It’s a great year to draft a RB, as there’s many, many good ones and could be had in round 4 or 5 even! Barkley for one more year IMO. Not sure they’ll come to terms for him as he wants too much and RB turnover is high in the league. Also short careers, as well.
RE: RE: Good  
Lionhart28 : 3/7/2023 4:09 pm : link
In comment 16055273 Sammo85 said:
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In comment 16055251 eric2425ny said:


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Here comes the “we could have easily replaced him with a third rounder crowd”



His value becomes pronounced more if there's a reliable platoon RB with him. Breida is a nice veteran, but he's a #3.

Giants did a lot of homework on Bigsby apparently at Combine.

I still expect a RB, maybe even in the 3rd!


Tank would be a great compliment to SB, very different running style.
what's the tag pay him?  
I Love Clams Casino : 3/7/2023 4:11 pm : link
gotta be more than the 12MM we offered, right?
RE: what's the tag pay him?  
Rjanyg : 3/7/2023 4:13 pm : link
In comment 16055336 I Love Clams Casino said:
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gotta be more than the 12MM we offered, right?


I believe just over $10 Million
Tag is a shade over $10M  
dpinzow : 3/7/2023 4:14 pm : link
Saquon has the right to hold out until he gets a deal. He doesn't have to sign the tag, but wouldn't get paid. I think they'll backload a 3 year deal with a voidable 3rd year
RE: what's the tag pay him?  
Rudy5757 : 3/7/2023 4:14 pm : link
In comment 16055336 I Love Clams Casino said:
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gotta be more than the 12MM we offered, right?


$10.1 Mil so a lot less than the $12.5 he turned down.
RE: what's the tag pay him?  
FranknWeezer : 3/7/2023 4:14 pm : link
In comment 16055336 I Love Clams Casino said:
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gotta be more than the 12MM we offered, right?


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Quarterback: $32.42 million
Running back: $10.09 million
Tight end: $11.35 million
Wide receiver: $19.74 million
Offensive line: $18.24 million
Defensive tackle: $18.94 million
Defensive end: $19.73 million
Linebacker: $20.93 million
Cornerback: $18.14 million
Safety: $14.46 million
The DJ/SB offense has been horrific  
averagejoe : 3/7/2023 4:15 pm : link
for four years so we had to pay a ton to extend it...lol....

I can only guess Daboll thinks DJ will improve. But excuse me for not celebrating . This offense was not good last year and I don't see it getting any better returning the same cast .

got  
Steve in Greenwich : 3/7/2023 4:16 pm : link
the feeling that the Giants might have already worked out a deal with Saquon; but it was all contingent on them being able to say to him I already got 1 year at 10 mil. Without that negotiating card Saquon wouldnt forgo multiple years of 14 mil for multiple years of 12.5 so to say which the Giants could force on him since they can force him to play at 1 year 10 mil.
Glad he didn't leave  
beatrixkiddo : 3/7/2023 4:16 pm : link
for nothing in return.

Hope he doesn't pull a Leveon Bell and shows up. Draft his replacement, and if an opportunity knocks trade him in season for the best you can get.
RE: got  
DisgruntledNYGfan : 3/7/2023 4:19 pm : link
In comment 16055376 Steve in Greenwich said:
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the feeling that the Giants might have already worked out a deal with Saquon; but it was all contingent on them being able to say to him I already got 1 year at 10 mil. Without that negotiating card Saquon wouldnt forgo multiple years of 14 mil for multiple years of 12.5 so to say which the Giants could force on him since they can force him to play at 1 year 10 mil.


Yeah. I also just don’t see Saquon as the type of guy to hold out.
RE: The DJ/SB offense has been horrific  
OBJ_AllDay : 3/7/2023 4:19 pm : link
In comment 16055366 averagejoe said:
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for four years so we had to pay a ton to extend it...lol....

I can only guess Daboll thinks DJ will improve. But excuse me for not celebrating . This offense was not good last year and I don't see it getting any better returning the same cast .


The offense wasn't bad either. Seemed they did real well in the redzone. ALl while navigating the year with a starting TE being lost for a month +, Golloday busting, Toney not getting on the field & Shep being lost for the season early. Add some interior o lineman & some wr's and its a different story. Jones arrow is pointing up.
Hope you all realize that this likely means Odell  
Ballin1992 : 3/7/2023 4:20 pm : link
has a ton of reason to come to us.
I feared the Freakin’ Eagles would sign Saquon……or Dallas  
GiantBlue : 3/7/2023 4:20 pm : link
Nightmare scenario
RE: Hope you all realize that this likely means Odell  
FranknWeezer : 3/7/2023 4:22 pm : link
In comment 16055404 Ballin1992 said:
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has a ton of reason to come to us.


Hope not. Just my take, but aside from his age/injury history, he's also not the same guy/character who was here before. Airplane video did it for me.
RE: Hope you all realize that this likely means Odell  
UConn4523 : 3/7/2023 4:23 pm : link
In comment 16055404 Ballin1992 said:
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has a ton of reason to come to us.


Don’t we have to want him and offer him a contract?
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81_Great_Dane : 3/7/2023 4:25 pm : link
In comment 16055256 Eric from BBI said:
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Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
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Wouldn't be surprised to see a long-term deal for Saquon Barkley follow relatively soon. Before the start of free agency.
This seems extremely likely. The tag number is low-ish. He might want more than the Giants want to pay, but the Giants already offered him more than the tag number. Looks like there's a deal to be made that will more or less satisfy both sides.
RE: Hope you all realize that this likely means Odell  
noro9 : 3/7/2023 4:28 pm : link
In comment 16055404 Ballin1992 said:
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has a ton of reason to come to us.


Come to us? To do what?
RE: RE: Hope you all realize that this likely means Odell  
BlackLight : 3/7/2023 4:35 pm : link
In comment 16055461 noro9 said:
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In comment 16055404 Ballin1992 said:


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has a ton of reason to come to us.



Come to us? To do what?


Threaten to play football, I guess?
Happy to see everything falling this way, so far.  
DonnieD89 : 3/7/2023 4:37 pm : link
I know that there are a lot of Barkley bashers out there, but they failed to realize his value, and he makes Daniel better. I do not agree with high numbers with Barkley, but I think he should get at least 13M per year for 3 years. He has shown this year that he can power run and still hit the home run plays as well as catch out of the backfield. Just need the wide receivers and better IOLs to make the Giants offense more of a nightmare.
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DanMetroMan : 3/7/2023 4:44 pm : link
In comment 16055275 barens said:
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In comment 16055256 Eric from BBI said:


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Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
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1m
Wouldn't be surprised to see a long-term deal for Saquon Barkley follow relatively soon. Before the start of free agency.



When he says long term, is that in running back years?


My guess is 3-4 years would be "long-term"
So basically Julian Love loses out  
DavidinBMNY : 3/7/2023 4:45 pm : link
A good, but not great football player. Kind of the bottom line here.
NON-EXCLUSIVE TAG  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/7/2023 4:45 pm : link
Paul Schwartz
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The Giants put the non-exclusive franchise tag on Saquon Barkley. He can negotiate with other teams, with the Giants having right to match any offer. If the Giants decline to match the offer, they receive 2 first round draft picks.
RE: The DJ/SB offense has been horrific  
djm : 3/7/2023 4:46 pm : link
In comment 16055366 averagejoe said:
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for four years so we had to pay a ton to extend it...lol....

I can only guess Daboll thinks DJ will improve. But excuse me for not celebrating . This offense was not good last year and I don't see it getting any better returning the same cast .


It was above average (barely but it was) in 2022.

But again, let's go by what Jones and Barkley did when Barkley was HURT and the team was led by Micky Mouse. BEcause why not.
RE: NON-EXCLUSIVE TAG  
Anakim : 3/7/2023 4:46 pm : link
In comment 16055519 Eric from BBI said:
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Paul Schwartz
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The Giants put the non-exclusive franchise tag on Saquon Barkley. He can negotiate with other teams, with the Giants having right to match any offer. If the Giants decline to match the offer, they receive 2 first round draft picks.


I dig it
RE: So basically Julian Love loses out  
djm : 3/7/2023 4:47 pm : link
In comment 16055518 DavidinBMNY said:
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A good, but not great football player. Kind of the bottom line here.


Says who?

Watch the Giants keep everyone they deem worthy AND sign outside FAs this Spring.

Just. Watch. And then where will all the sky is falling posts go...
RE: NON-EXCLUSIVE TAG  
jeff57 : 3/7/2023 4:48 pm : link
In comment 16055519 Eric from BBI said:
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Paul Schwartz
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The Giants put the non-exclusive franchise tag on Saquon Barkley. He can negotiate with other teams, with the Giants having right to match any offer. If the Giants decline to match the offer, they receive 2 first round draft picks.


Hope someone matches. Doubt they will
Big  
DanMetroMan : 3/7/2023 4:49 pm : link
SB fan but I'd be pretty stunned seeing anybody giving up 2 1st round picks for him.
Is the non exclusive tag for running back  
RicFlair : 3/7/2023 4:50 pm : link
Cheaper than the exclusive? If so what’s the number?
RE: Is the non exclusive tag for running back  
DanMetroMan : 3/7/2023 4:52 pm : link
In comment 16055541 RicFlair said:
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Cheaper than the exclusive? If so what’s the number?




Exclusive: Teams must offer the selected player a one-year contract no less than either the average of the top-five salaries at that player’s position based on April of the current year or 120% of the player’s previous year’s salary, whichever is greater.
Non-exclusive: Teams must offer the selected player a one-year contract no less than the average of the top-five cap hits of that player’s positions or 120% of the player’s previous year’s salary, whichever is greater.
Barkley  
Crazed Dogs : 3/7/2023 4:53 pm : link
Fucking greedy bastard.... could say the same about Jones and yes I know I get the contrarian view that they earned it...and that the Agent's are protecting their interests...It just pisses me off ..If they have half a brain they are set for life....and they have to milk the franchise.... this is a vent
RE: So basically Julian Love loses out  
MotownGIANTS : 3/7/2023 4:54 pm : link
In comment 16055518 DavidinBMNY said:
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A good, but not great football player. Kind of the bottom line here.



Not actually see how free agency goes ... crazier things have happened
RE: RE: Is the non exclusive tag for running back  
RicFlair : 3/7/2023 4:55 pm : link
In comment 16055546 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 16055541 RicFlair said:


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Cheaper than the exclusive? If so what’s the number?





Exclusive: Teams must offer the selected player a one-year contract no less than either the average of the top-five salaries at that player’s position based on April of the current year or 120% of the player’s previous year’s salary, whichever is greater.
Non-exclusive: Teams must offer the selected player a one-year contract no less than the average of the top-five cap hits of that player’s positions or 120% of the player’s previous year’s salary, whichever is greater.




Anyone know what his number will be ?
This is a very good move  
Crazed Dogs : 3/7/2023 4:58 pm : link
either way..If someone overpays.... the Giants get two number ones.... no team is overpaying and giving up 2 ones
RE: Big  
islander1 : 3/7/2023 5:12 pm : link
In comment 16055538 DanMetroMan said:
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SB fan but I'd be pretty stunned seeing anybody giving up 2 1st round picks for him.


It would be amazing if someone did.
Good!  
prdave73 : 3/7/2023 5:17 pm : link
I was hoping for this. This offense needs Barkley period.
Giants YouTube with John Schmeelk and Paul Dottino  
US1 Giants : 3/7/2023 5:29 pm : link
talking about the non-exclusive tag for Bakrley.

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RE: RE: NON-EXCLUSIVE TAG  
.McL. : 3/7/2023 5:37 pm : link
In comment 16055530 jeff57 said:
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In comment 16055519 Eric from BBI said:


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Paul Schwartz
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The Giants put the non-exclusive franchise tag on Saquon Barkley. He can negotiate with other teams, with the Giants having right to match any offer. If the Giants decline to match the offer, they receive 2 first round draft picks.



Hope someone matches. Doubt they will

We have to hope that somebody fires their GM and hires Gettleman! Please, make it happen!
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Carson53 : 3/7/2023 6:05 pm : link
In comment 16055256 Eric from BBI said:
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Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
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Wouldn't be surprised to see a long-term deal for Saquon Barkley follow relatively soon. Before the start of free agency.
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I rather they didn't. Let him play on the tag, prove he can stay healthy for another year...and be productive.
His production sure fell off the second half of the season!
very impressed with how schoen seems to have command  
Eric on Li : 3/7/2023 6:21 pm : link
of his priorities and is ticking through them. getting SB extended or not kind of doesn't matter much at this point because the numbers wont change too much unless he decides to really go for things this year. nyg have a lot of leverage now so i expect them to get a fair deal done more to keep an important player happy and remove future uncertainty than anything else. the numbers at RB should be manageable enough that there's flexibility (just as CAR had with CMC deal in the first 3 years).
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/7/2023 6:23 pm : link
It'd be curious to see how Saquon handles this if he's still on the tag come the start of training camp. He doesn't strike me as one to holdout, but who knows?
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AcesUp : 3/7/2023 6:30 pm : link
In comment 16055256 Eric from BBI said:
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Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
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Wouldn't be surprised to see a long-term deal for Saquon Barkley follow relatively soon. Before the start of free agency.


He's going to come down to the Giants number now. I doubt he plays on the tag, the Giants offer looks much better now. 3 year deal and probably a big cut candidate after 2.
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