Say what you want about stats, but Jones left it all out there this year while Jackson refused to suit up in the playoffs. It's just classless for these fools to feel the need to broadcast their opinions on Twitter.
Why would an owner or GM want to give Jackson what he's demanding when he's often hurt and made a business decision to sit out? How is that relevant to what the Giants wanted to pay DJ?
Twitter needs to rot in hell - (
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Players ain’t making money because of their overall intelligence of common sense.
Oh he also completely lost contain on both of DJ's read option TDs...
What a clown.
See the article in the WSJ? They were making fun of the deal and making a joke on inflation. That doesn't really happen on "fair deals"
Our own beat writer said we were willing to pay him more than the league.
This situation is not even helpful to Jones letting him get this much leverage in the negotiation.
You go on this errant Lamar Jackson rant. But Jackson won an MVP. Being a "good guy" shouldn't be the reason you get overpaid. This isn't a good situation
See the article in the WSJ? They were making fun of the deal and making a joke on inflation. That doesn't really happen on "fair deals"
Our own beat writer said we were willing to pay him more than the league.
This situation is not even helpful to Jones letting him get this much leverage in the negotiation.
You go on this errant Lamar Jackson rant. But Jackson won an MVP. Being a "good guy" shouldn't be the reason you get overpaid. This isn't a good situation
Yikes.
The score to their game this past season.
The vitriol to Jones getting money (like all QB's do in the market) is odd. Not one peep about the rapist Watson getting one and screwing the market, or Murray getting one that's too high for his accolades. Jones eats the criticism and I don't get it. I may be wrong but it's likely a race thing. They're mad a black QB isn't getting his "share" despite being offered over $250M over 5 years and declining it.
See the article in the WSJ? They were making fun of the deal and making a joke on inflation. That doesn't really happen on "fair deals"
Our own beat writer said we were willing to pay him more than the league.
This situation is not even helpful to Jones letting him get this much leverage in the negotiation.
You go on this errant Lamar Jackson rant. But Jackson won an MVP. Being a "good guy" shouldn't be the reason you get overpaid. This isn't a good situation
3 years with $37.5M per isn't an overpay at all. Maybe hit the bench like Dayne did on this one.
See the article in the WSJ? They were making fun of the deal and making a joke on inflation. That doesn't really happen on "fair deals"
Our own beat writer said we were willing to pay him more than the league.
This situation is not even helpful to Jones letting him get this much leverage in the negotiation.
You go on this errant Lamar Jackson rant. But Jackson won an MVP. Being a "good guy" shouldn't be the reason you get overpaid. This isn't a good situation
Give it a rest. We get it, you think he's not good. Sort of like how most of us think that your continued boasting of your business isn't very good either.
See the article in the WSJ? They were making fun of the deal and making a joke on inflation. That doesn't really happen on "fair deals"
Our own beat writer said we were willing to pay him more than the league.
This situation is not even helpful to Jones letting him get this much leverage in the negotiation.
You go on this errant Lamar Jackson rant. But Jackson won an MVP. Being a "good guy" shouldn't be the reason you get overpaid. This isn't a good situation
You are on some crusade these days. When is it ever appropriate for a player to comment on another players contract? I know you know the answer to this question.
But I get that people are in their honeymoon with this BBI has cycles. It doesn't mean this was a good decision, we will see. I'm hoping for the best but I fully expect it to be a regretful decision. Enjoy your honeymoon, I'm not going to be surprised when this contract looks bad
The score to their game this past season.
The vitriol to Jones getting money (like all QB's do in the market) is odd. Not one peep about the rapist Watson getting one and screwing the market, or Murray getting one that's too high for his accolades. Jones eats the criticism and I don't get it. I may be wrong but it's likely a race thing. They're mad a black QB isn't getting his "share" despite being offered over $250M over 5 years and declining it.
Sadly, you nailed it. If jones was black they wouldnt say a word.
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And people are speaking out because they actually think it is ridiculous.
See the article in the WSJ? They were making fun of the deal and making a joke on inflation. That doesn't really happen on "fair deals"
Our own beat writer said we were willing to pay him more than the league.
This situation is not even helpful to Jones letting him get this much leverage in the negotiation.
You go on this errant Lamar Jackson rant. But Jackson won an MVP. Being a "good guy" shouldn't be the reason you get overpaid. This isn't a good situation
You are on some crusade these days. When is it ever appropriate for a player to comment on another players contract? I know you know the answer to this question.
Yeah when I see this crazy bubble here when a good number of people outside of the bubble see this as a bad idea. Sure I'm going to be on that crusade. This isn't some crazy thing that these players are doing it is actually quite reasonable to see who he has been on the field and this contract and have something negative to say about it. Not surprising at all. And people want to paint the commenter as stupid. As if Hill and Brisker don't know anything about football or it is a race thing that they are commenting about it?
Yeah that tells me there is some ridiculous groupthink going on here when I see that.
See the article in the WSJ? They were making fun of the deal and making a joke on inflation. That doesn't really happen on "fair deals"
Our own beat writer said we were willing to pay him more than the league.
This situation is not even helpful to Jones letting him get this much leverage in the negotiation.
You go on this errant Lamar Jackson rant. But Jackson won an MVP. Being a "good guy" shouldn't be the reason you get overpaid. This isn't a good situation
DJ contract ties him at (7th-9th) most with Stafford and Dak. DJ is probably a top 12 QB right now with many big names to still be extended like Burrow, Hurts, Etc. The $ will be fair in the end
How dare Daniel Jones work really hard and take full advantage of a prove it year!
Lamar Jackson is not getting shown the money because he’s asking for a fully guaranteed contract in a league that doesn’t want to give him or anyone fully guaranteed money after Watson (a black man by the way) already got it.
He quit on his team and quite frankly isn’t as good as people think he is.
No I think it was an overpay in price AND I think we should have franchised him due to his health in previous seasons and his propensity to have games that spiral down in quality and he makes many poor decisions like the Eagles game.
If we were going to sign him long term IMO it should have had better early outs like Geno or a way better price. The contract just looks very bad next to Geno's. Who is by far the best comp due to the fact that they've each only had one even above average season.
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And people are speaking out because they actually think it is ridiculous.
See the article in the WSJ? They were making fun of the deal and making a joke on inflation. That doesn't really happen on "fair deals"
Our own beat writer said we were willing to pay him more than the league.
This situation is not even helpful to Jones letting him get this much leverage in the negotiation.
You go on this errant Lamar Jackson rant. But Jackson won an MVP. Being a "good guy" shouldn't be the reason you get overpaid. This isn't a good situation
You are on some crusade these days. When is it ever appropriate for a player to comment on another players contract? I know you know the answer to this question.
Yeah when I see this crazy bubble here when a good number of people outside of the bubble see this as a bad idea. Sure I'm going to be on that crusade. This isn't some crazy thing that these players are doing it is actually quite reasonable to see who he has been on the field and this contract and have something negative to say about it. Not surprising at all. And people want to paint the commenter as stupid. As if Hill and Brisker don't know anything about football or it is a race thing that they are commenting about it?
Yeah that tells me there is some ridiculous groupthink going on here when I see that.
DJ just WON a playoff game under Daboll with Slayton and Hodgins as his top WR. A 5th round pick and a 7th round pick off the practice squad. He beat a 13-3 on the road in the Vikings. How many QBs can you say that about?
But I get that people are in their honeymoon with this BBI has cycles. It doesn't mean this was a good decision, we will see. I'm hoping for the best but I fully expect it to be a regretful decision. Enjoy your honeymoon, I'm not going to be surprised when this contract looks bad
How is it an overpay based on what Geno got? Geno has been in the NFL for like 10-11 years with 1 good season and is 7 years older than DJ.
See the article in the WSJ? They were making fun of the deal and making a joke on inflation. That doesn't really happen on "fair deals"
Our own beat writer said we were willing to pay him more than the league.
This situation is not even helpful to Jones letting him get this much leverage in the negotiation.
You go on this errant Lamar Jackson rant. But Jackson won an MVP. Being a "good guy" shouldn't be the reason you get overpaid. This isn't a good situation
You are borderline someone to be ignored - just like Producer. Pretty obvious now, you are not a serious poster, but someone looking for a fight. Ok, you got me this time. But it is the last time.
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So you do not believe that Jones' contract was not a fair deal?
No I think it was an overpay in price AND I think we should have franchised him due to his health in previous seasons and his propensity to have games that spiral down in quality and he makes many poor decisions like the Eagles game.
If we were going to sign him long term IMO it should have had better early outs like Geno or a way better price. The contract just looks very bad next to Geno's. Who is by far the best comp due to the fact that they've each only had one even above average season.
Bbi needs an ignore button for these kind of posts.
See the article in the WSJ? They were making fun of the deal and making a joke on inflation. That doesn't really happen on "fair deals"
Our own beat writer said we were willing to pay him more than the league.
This situation is not even helpful to Jones letting him get this much leverage in the negotiation.
You go on this errant Lamar Jackson rant. But Jackson won an MVP. Being a "good guy" shouldn't be the reason you get overpaid. This isn't a good situation
It was a very fair deal. He led a 4 win team to a 9-7-1 regular season record and a playoff win over a 13 win team. He accounted for nearly 4000 yards of offense and 22 TDs. Lamar, on the other hand, was an MVP 4 years ago, missed 10 games over the last 2 seasons, and chose to leave his team hanging while he sat out the playoff game. And he thinks he's entitled to a fully-guaranteed contract? Give me a fucking break!
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it absolutely is an overpay based on what Geno smith got.
But I get that people are in their honeymoon with this BBI has cycles. It doesn't mean this was a good decision, we will see. I'm hoping for the best but I fully expect it to be a regretful decision. Enjoy your honeymoon, I'm not going to be surprised when this contract looks bad
How is it an overpay based on what Geno got? Geno has been in the NFL for like 10-11 years with 1 good season and is 7 years older than DJ.
Geno has an out after 1 year and is a pro bowler. Age matters when you are taking on risk but it doesn't matter at all if Seattle can get out of the deal. Besides, Jones carries a lot more injury risk which is the main point of factoring in age. So there really isn't much of a reason
You don't have to do that at all, people here act like that though
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And people are speaking out because they actually think it is ridiculous.
See the article in the WSJ? They were making fun of the deal and making a joke on inflation. That doesn't really happen on "fair deals"
Our own beat writer said we were willing to pay him more than the league.
This situation is not even helpful to Jones letting him get this much leverage in the negotiation.
You go on this errant Lamar Jackson rant. But Jackson won an MVP. Being a "good guy" shouldn't be the reason you get overpaid. This isn't a good situation
It was a very fair deal. He led a 4 win team to a 9-7-1 regular season record and a playoff win over a 13 win team. He accounted for nearly 4000 yards of offense and 22 TDs. Lamar, on the other hand, was an MVP 4 years ago, missed 10 games over the last 2 seasons, and chose to leave his team hanging while he sat out the playoff game. And he thinks he's entitled to a fully-guaranteed contract? Give me a fucking break!
+1
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That Jones played with a bad OL and the worst WR in the league and we made the Playoffs and won a game. The two main reasons we got there was Barkley and Jones.
You don't have to do that at all, people here act like that though
Shouldn’t you just tell him his opinion sucks and your is better?
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That Jones played with a bad OL and the worst WR in the league and we made the Playoffs and won a game. The two main reasons we got there was Barkley and Jones.
You don't have to do that at all, people here act like that though
Shouldn’t you just tell him his opinion sucks and your is better?
Nah I'll let you guys enjoy talking about what a coup this overpay was for the Giants and the extremely vital discussion of reverse racism
See the article in the WSJ? They were making fun of the deal and making a joke on inflation. That doesn't really happen on "fair deals"
Our own beat writer said we were willing to pay him more than the league.
This situation is not even helpful to Jones letting him get this much leverage in the negotiation.
You go on this errant Lamar Jackson rant. But Jackson won an MVP. Being a "good guy" shouldn't be the reason you get overpaid. This isn't a good situation
$37.5 mil for 3 years is the actual deal. Very fair. The Giants can void year 4, cut him and pay nothing.
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It is funny, though, you have to think guys like Justin Fields are like, "SHUT UP, BRO." Guys like him are licking their chops to get to free agency.
How do you think Herbert feels about this deal?
See the article in the WSJ? They were making fun of the deal and making a joke on inflation. That doesn't really happen on "fair deals"
Our own beat writer said we were willing to pay him more than the league.
This situation is not even helpful to Jones letting him get this much leverage in the negotiation.
You go on this errant Lamar Jackson rant. But Jackson won an MVP. Being a "good guy" shouldn't be the reason you get overpaid. This isn't a good situation
What a moronic comment...
I hope he files them away...we play the Dolphins in Miami next year. Make Tyreek eat those words, DJ.
You are not paying it, so why so upset?
Some Giant fans are never happy and always complain about something.
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And people are speaking out because they actually think it is ridiculous.
See the article in the WSJ? They were making fun of the deal and making a joke on inflation. That doesn't really happen on "fair deals"
Our own beat writer said we were willing to pay him more than the league.
This situation is not even helpful to Jones letting him get this much leverage in the negotiation.
You go on this errant Lamar Jackson rant. But Jackson won an MVP. Being a "good guy" shouldn't be the reason you get overpaid. This isn't a good situation
Yikes.
I know. Idiotic
Here were Schoen's choices:
1. Tag Jones, lose Barkley and have limited cap space to improve the team.
2. Tag Barkley and let Jones test free agency (running the risk of having to start over with a new QB)
3. Pay Jones the contract he received, thus allowing the team to tag Jones and have the cash they need THIS year to improve the team.
I think it's clear why Schoen rightfully chose Option #3.
I don't care what You think! - ( New Window )
“We can’t worry about what people are saying outside the building,’’ Schoen said. “All we care about is inside these walls. And we’ve got a very talented, experienced coaching staff and a very talented personnel staff, I believe. And what matters is what we think inside this building. That’s how we’re always going to make decisions.
“We’re not going to worry about the outside noise. And we’re going to [have a conviction] in what we’re doing. It’s a well-thought-out process, and we’re happy with the decision that we made. And we’re happy to move forward with Daniel.’’
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That Jones played with a bad OL and the worst WR in the league and we made the Playoffs and won a game. The two main reasons we got there was Barkley and Jones.
You don't have to do that at all, people here act like that though
And he’s right. It’s perfectly ok to ignore the facts. And it’s really great that NoGain openly admits he ignores the facts. (Not that it was news.)
The score to their game this past season.
The vitriol to Jones getting money (like all QB's do in the market) is odd. Not one peep about the rapist Watson getting one and screwing the market, or Murray getting one that's too high for his accolades. Jones eats the criticism and I don't get it. I may be wrong but it's likely a race thing. They're mad a black QB isn't getting his "share" despite being offered over $250M over 5 years and declining it.
Many in the media, and here, suffer from Jones derangement syndrome.
The manner in which they go after this kid at every turn is fascinating. The coach of the year has hitched his wagon to a quarterback he did not draft.
The coach of the year had every opportunity to move on, yet he did not. In fact he endorsed a contract well beyond what Jones’ critics could have ever imagined, and it is not sitting well with them.
Back in September a big part of the quarterback debate was, this new FO did not believe in him, that debate has been settled
But no problem, we will now change the debate to “The FO were wrong “
It s kind of similar to the Jones will never win a play off game. Daniel with a superior team shredded the Vikings, but to his critics the only play off game that mattered was the Eagle game, a game where the Giants were overwhelmed
I m wondering if the critics believe putting Hurts on the Giants that day, and Daniel on the Eagles would have altered the results
The debate on Jones continues, but truth is the only people that really matter have spoken