Either Joe Klecko and Nameth or both, I forget, did not think he would be a good idea because of his me first attitude and likley negative influence over the younger players in the locker room
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RE: RE: This is not going to end well for either of these 2 ‘storied’ teams.
Either Joe Klecko and Nameth or both, I forget, did not think he would be a good idea because of his me first attitude and likley negative influence over the younger players in the locker room
It wasn't Namath. He said that Rodgers can wear his #12 and they can un-retire it for him. It was probably Klecko. This has Favre 2.0 written all over it. Rodgers will make the Jets better, no question, but he also showed he was kind of a choker in the big spot for years with more talented Packers teams (and he was younger).
This is kind of typical Woody Johnson. He saw the Giants suddenly come out of no where and make the playoffs. He needs an upgrade now to compete for eyeballs in NYC. Salah needs to win or he's gone, maybe same for Douglas. So this is your typical short term move to hot shot a title. Now, we saw it work for Tampa w/ Brady & Stafford in LA. But the difference is, both of those were NFC teams, a much easier road to get to the Super Bowl. Even with Rodgers, the Jets are still behind KC, Cincy and still probably Buffalo. In the end, they will get Rodgers. They will make the playoffs. And get bounced in the 2nd round. But that keeps Douglas/Salah alive, which I suppose then is worth it to the Jets, until they are in a total rebuild in 2 years.
RE: RE: RE: This is not going to end well for either of these 2 ‘storied’ teams.
Either Joe Klecko and Nameth or both, I forget, did not think he would be a good idea because of his me first attitude and likley negative influence over the younger players in the locker room
It wasn't Namath. He said that Rodgers can wear his #12 and they can un-retire it for him. It was probably Klecko. This has Favre 2.0 written all over it. Rodgers will make the Jets better, no question, but he also showed he was kind of a choker in the big spot for years with more talented Packers teams (and he was younger).
This is kind of typical Woody Johnson. He saw the Giants suddenly come out of no where and make the playoffs. He needs an upgrade now to compete for eyeballs in NYC. Salah needs to win or he's gone, maybe same for Douglas. So this is your typical short term move to hot shot a title. Now, we saw it work for Tampa w/ Brady & Stafford in LA. But the difference is, both of those were NFC teams, a much easier road to get to the Super Bowl. Even with Rodgers, the Jets are still behind KC, Cincy and still probably Buffalo. In the end, they will get Rodgers. They will make the playoffs. And get bounced in the 2nd round. But that keeps Douglas/Salah alive, which I suppose then is worth it to the Jets, until they are in a total rebuild in 2 years.
We'll see how it all unfolds but this makes sense for the Jets. They are ready to win now. They have a really good defense, running game, and weapons on O. It doesn't sound like the compensation will be that much so they can use their picks to build up the OL more. I wouldn't be so quick to put Cincinnati above the Jets. The Jets can be the best team in the AFC. Odds are they won't be. The field is obviously the better bet but it wouldn't surprise me to see the Jets as a top team in the AFC and make noise in the playoffs. I am not crazy about Hackett though. We'll see.
RE: RE: RE: RE: This is not going to end well for either of these 2 ‘storied’ teams.
Either Joe Klecko and Nameth or both, I forget, did not think he would be a good idea because of his me first attitude and likley negative influence over the younger players in the locker room
It wasn't Namath. He said that Rodgers can wear his #12 and they can un-retire it for him. It was probably Klecko. This has Favre 2.0 written all over it. Rodgers will make the Jets better, no question, but he also showed he was kind of a choker in the big spot for years with more talented Packers teams (and he was younger).
This is kind of typical Woody Johnson. He saw the Giants suddenly come out of no where and make the playoffs. He needs an upgrade now to compete for eyeballs in NYC. Salah needs to win or he's gone, maybe same for Douglas. So this is your typical short term move to hot shot a title. Now, we saw it work for Tampa w/ Brady & Stafford in LA. But the difference is, both of those were NFC teams, a much easier road to get to the Super Bowl. Even with Rodgers, the Jets are still behind KC, Cincy and still probably Buffalo. In the end, they will get Rodgers. They will make the playoffs. And get bounced in the 2nd round. But that keeps Douglas/Salah alive, which I suppose then is worth it to the Jets, until they are in a total rebuild in 2 years.
We'll see how it all unfolds but this makes sense for the Jets. They are ready to win now. They have a really good defense, running game, and weapons on O. It doesn't sound like the compensation will be that much so they can use their picks to build up the OL more. I wouldn't be so quick to put Cincinnati above the Jets. The Jets can be the best team in the AFC. Odds are they won't be. The field is obviously the better bet but it wouldn't surprise me to see the Jets as a top team in the AFC and make noise in the playoffs. I am not crazy about Hackett though. We'll see.
Can Rodgers co-exist with that running game? He seemed to get very annoyed when Green Bay was running more even when that was the only thing working. The Tampa Bay Conference Championship Game I thought they lost because they were not running the ball more to keep D off the field.
They move on from Rodgers and now have Love and those young receivers to go along with Jones and Dillon at rb. They get to focus on their o-line and defense. Hard to believe that team has had 30 years of HOF qb'ing.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: This is not going to end well for either of these 2 ‘storied’ teams.
Either Joe Klecko and Nameth or both, I forget, did not think he would be a good idea because of his me first attitude and likley negative influence over the younger players in the locker room
It wasn't Namath. He said that Rodgers can wear his #12 and they can un-retire it for him. It was probably Klecko. This has Favre 2.0 written all over it. Rodgers will make the Jets better, no question, but he also showed he was kind of a choker in the big spot for years with more talented Packers teams (and he was younger).
This is kind of typical Woody Johnson. He saw the Giants suddenly come out of no where and make the playoffs. He needs an upgrade now to compete for eyeballs in NYC. Salah needs to win or he's gone, maybe same for Douglas. So this is your typical short term move to hot shot a title. Now, we saw it work for Tampa w/ Brady & Stafford in LA. But the difference is, both of those were NFC teams, a much easier road to get to the Super Bowl. Even with Rodgers, the Jets are still behind KC, Cincy and still probably Buffalo. In the end, they will get Rodgers. They will make the playoffs. And get bounced in the 2nd round. But that keeps Douglas/Salah alive, which I suppose then is worth it to the Jets, until they are in a total rebuild in 2 years.
We'll see how it all unfolds but this makes sense for the Jets. They are ready to win now. They have a really good defense, running game, and weapons on O. It doesn't sound like the compensation will be that much so they can use their picks to build up the OL more. I wouldn't be so quick to put Cincinnati above the Jets. The Jets can be the best team in the AFC. Odds are they won't be. The field is obviously the better bet but it wouldn't surprise me to see the Jets as a top team in the AFC and make noise in the playoffs. I am not crazy about Hackett though. We'll see.
Can Rodgers co-exist with that running game? He seemed to get very annoyed when Green Bay was running more even when that was the only thing working. The Tampa Bay Conference Championship Game I thought they lost because they were not running the ball more to keep D off the field.
I disagree. He had shitty weapons. That is what was annoying him. He has said as much. I never once heard him complain about a running game.
They move on from Rodgers and now have Love and those young receivers to go along with Jones and Dillon at rb. They get to focus on their o-line and defense. Hard to believe that team has had 30 years of HOF qb'ing.
You don’t know anything about Love. I know you love to praise every single team in the league for everything they do while constantly shitting on the Giants but come on now
makes Jets a playoff caliber team. Their division is weak enough for the taking. Bills to me look like they may have hit a bit of a wall. Dolphins and Pats are running in circles with marginal QB play and defense that isn’t as good as it needs to be.
The Jets (present regime included) are incapable of choosing QBs. Wasted a # 2 and a # 3 draft picks in the last few years. Now they choose an old man. I predict that this is the year that Rodgers falls apart on the field. My proof, you ask. Simply that the Jets picked him. It's like Murphy's Law.
Bart and Hahn and the jets fans callers were taking unsolicited shots at the Giants and us fans. “Jealous Giants fans”. “It’s our time” “we have trash like Jones”. I’m hoping against hope Rodgers retires. Jets need to continue miss the playoffs.
I loathe that fanbase.
RE: How did the Packers manage to pull this off twice
They move on from Rodgers and now have Love and those young receivers to go along with Jones and Dillon at rb. They get to focus on their o-line and defense. Hard to believe that team has had 30 years of HOF qb'ing.
And only two super bowls and three appearances. I contend the Packers are actually a terrible franchise who has squandered back-to-back generational talents at quarterback.
by mid season when the NY media is all over Rodgers if the team doesn't live up to the overhype. Wouldn't be shocked if he retired after year 1 either due to the NYC media bs.
The ripple effect on this will set the Jets back another 5 years imo.
The Jets jave some nice skill players, but they are overrated in many positions and need to infuse talent. Plus their headcoach doesn't look good and may only have 1 year left. So what to do, lets add an aging "ex-superstar" who is a malecontent and decides at the beginning of every season if he's playing or retiring. Sounds perfect. Next season this time they could be without a HC and still with no QB.
The Jets are the definition of QB hell. Sort of reminds me of us getting Tarkenton or Snead back in the day
RE: How did the Packers manage to pull this off twice
They move on from Rodgers and now have Love and those young receivers to go along with Jones and Dillon at rb. They get to focus on their o-line and defense. Hard to believe that team has had 30 years of HOF qb'ing.
What has Love proven? What a weird statement.
RE: How did the Packers manage to pull this off twice
They move on from Rodgers and now have Love and those young receivers to go along with Jones and Dillon at rb. They get to focus on their o-line and defense. Hard to believe that team has had 30 years of HOF qb'ing.
What has Love done to deserve praise? Also their wide receivers are just as bad as the Giants. They need more than fixing the offensive line.
And it can’t be designated post June 1. They have #24m in cap space but unless there is some contractual give back by Rogers that’s quite the price to pay.
I do not envision this working out well for the Jets
unless the picks aren't what I think they will be(2 firsts). First off, Tom Brady is not the norm. Guys usually don't play at an elite level into their 40's and there is a HUGE difference between Brady and Rodgers. Brady is one of the best winners in the history of football, if not the best winner. Rodgers is quite the opposite.
Rodgers is on the decline and will not be the same guy without the high end arm talent like Brady can be.
From the Jets perspective, I get why they think it makes sense. They have a major weakness on offense and on paper, this fills that hole. However, it's not that simple. These guys don't know how to win and win consistently. That takes time to learn and they don't have time. Rodgers is coming to a perennial loser, not a team thats won games and just needs a QB.
The Jets defense was good, but not elite. Hall is good, but now coming off an ACL(how'd barkley look his first year back?). Wilson looks good, but he's young and inexperienced. The OL hasn't been great. They are up against the cap.
I don't think this will work and it will set the Jets back.
RE: How did the Packers manage to pull this off twice
They move on from Rodgers and now have Love and those young receivers to go along with Jones and Dillon at rb. They get to focus on their o-line and defense. Hard to believe that team has had 30 years of HOF qb'ing.
I suspect that 30 year run of HOF QB’s is going to come to a crashing halt. Love will be, at best, serviceable, but I don’t see an other-worldly talent.
Bart and Hahn and the jets fans callers were taking unsolicited shots at the Giants and us fans. “Jealous Giants fans”. “It’s our time” “we have trash like Jones”. I’m hoping against hope Rodgers retires. Jets need to continue miss the playoffs.
I loathe that fanbase.
It baffles me as to why people give a shit of what is said on talk radio (and I’ve worked in and around radio most of my 40 year career). Their entire game plan is to get people riled up, so they put callers on who will say things to do that.
I have a bunch of friends who are Jets fans, they are far more likely to be “woe is me” than talking trash.
kind of crazy douglas is going after rodgers not lamar
far from a malcontent like someone above stated, but he's 39 years old, will turn 40 during the season and he's not necessarily known for winning. This isn't Tom Brady or a prime Aaron Rodgers. This is an old Aaron Rodgers whos on the decline and had to be begged to go to the Jets.
this is a win/win for both teams. Rodgers can still play at a high level, just look at his back to back MVP's in 20/21. Rodgers has been frustrated at leaderships lack of getting him weapons and then trades the best WR in the game with no replacement. The Packers haven't drafted a first round WR since 2002 with Javon Walker.
Jets are built to win now and will bend over backwards to get Rodgers whatever he needs.
Packers can start Love and continue doing what they've been found. Without the cap hit.
The Jets have put together pieces that can win with a good qb and
far from a malcontent like someone above stated, but he's 39 years old, will turn 40 during the season and he's not necessarily known for winning. This isn't Tom Brady or a prime Aaron Rodgers. This is an old Aaron Rodgers whos on the decline and had to be begged to go to the Jets.
I don't see this going well.
Rodgers isn't known for winning? He's 150-79-1. 11-10 in the playoffs and a Super Bowl ring. What are we talking about here
they are win now, windows are so short. Pats are down, Bills are good but not great. Go for broke. This team with Rodgers will be in the playoffs. With that defense? Breece Hall back? Could be dangerous.
Outside of Wilson, there isn't much there on offense at all. Add to that a mediocre OL and an old, past his prime Rodgers, and their offense can be had.
Bart and Hahn and the jets fans callers were taking unsolicited shots at the Giants and us fans. “Jealous Giants fans”. “It’s our time” “we have trash like Jones”. I’m hoping against hope Rodgers retires. Jets need to continue miss the playoffs.
I loathe that fanbase.
All due respect you need to stop using talk radio as some type of real insight into true knowledgeable and committed fans.
Rodgers still has talent and the Jets have a lot of pieces in place. Just not QB.
If Wilson gets cut I think he might be a good reclamation project to see if Kafka can get him "fixed" and then flip him after he fills in for Jones if Jones is injured. Not a Jones hater at all, but he has missed games every season of his career so far for one reason or another, so no reason to think that will change.
I’m not sure how well Rodgers handles the pressure
Of playing in NY if things go badly for a stretch. A lot more scrutiny in NY than Green Bay. There has to be at least 10 times the media covering the team, let alone the fan base.
He’ll do well until the bloom is off the rose, then it could get interesting.
I have to disagree on the Jets talent level, they have a lot
and some are elite like Williams, Gardner, Wilson and if they add him Rodgers. If Vera Tucker comes back and they draft OL, they can stabilize that position.
To me the question and the real drama is managing Rodgers. I could see LaFleur just hating Rodgers. i think the whole org likely hated him (not the players). Dude is HARD to manage. How Saleh will handle that will be huge.
Outside of Wilson, there isn't much there on offense at all. Add to that a mediocre OL and an old, past his prime Rodgers, and their offense can be had.
oh stop. they have 3 wrs and 2 tight ends and rb that was on his way to roomie of the year.
RE: RE: kind of crazy douglas is going after rodgers not lamar
that's probably not a great sign for lamar's market beyond ravens.
It really isn't. Lamar is going to be a much bigger commitment financially and through draft picks.
i dont think rodgers is going to be a small commitment and his window is what? 1 year? it sounds like he came real close to calling it quits this year.
lamar probably costs at least 2x overall but at 26 years old he gives you a window 3-5x longer. and the jets are pretty young roster.
RE: I’m not sure how well Rodgers handles the pressure
Of playing in NY if things go badly for a stretch. A lot more scrutiny in NY than Green Bay. There has to be at least 10 times the media covering the team, let alone the fan base.
He’ll do well until the bloom is off the rose, then it could get interesting.
Yeah, he somehow had some issues dealing with the Green Bay media at times. I mean, how can someone have a tough time with the Green Bay media? Can't wait for Rodgers to realize the OL is mediocre, he was one true weapon to throw the ball to (Wilson), and not much else. Wait until he starts getting sacked. Going to be fun to see the finer-pointing game start.
RE: RE: The Jets weapons are extremely overstated, too.
Outside of Wilson, there isn't much there on offense at all. Add to that a mediocre OL and an old, past his prime Rodgers, and their offense can be had.
oh stop. they have 3 wrs and 2 tight ends and rb that was on his way to roomie of the year.
LOL. Sure, they do. The BBI contingent that talks up the Jets every season only for them to miss the playoffs every year since 2010. The BBI midas touch.
Outside of Wilson, there isn't much there on offense at all. Add to that a mediocre OL and an old, past his prime Rodgers, and their offense can be had.
oh stop. they have 3 wrs and 2 tight ends and rb that was on his way to roomie of the year.
LOL. Sure, they do. The BBI contingent that talks up the Jets every season only for them to miss the playoffs every year since 2010. The BBI midas touch.
yea thats me always talking about the jets when I post 2x a week. clown. Wilson, Moore, Davis, Conklin and Uzomah are better than any giant at those positions and if you dont think so, then again you are a clown
Outside of Wilson, there isn't much there on offense at all. Add to that a mediocre OL and an old, past his prime Rodgers, and their offense can be had.
oh stop. they have 3 wrs and 2 tight ends and rb that was on his way to roomie of the year.
LOL. Sure, they do. The BBI contingent that talks up the Jets every season only for them to miss the playoffs every year since 2010. The BBI midas touch.
yea thats me always talking about the jets when I post 2x a week. clown. Wilson, Moore, Davis, Conklin and Uzomah are better than any giant at those positions and if you dont think so, then again you are a clown
They're all amazing All Pro's for sure. Look at all the success they've led the Jets to since being here. And why compare them to the Giants? The Giants still went way further than the Jets last year even with the Jets having all of this amazing talent. Funny how that works, dipshit.
I don't know why I thought it would take 2 firsts, I must've heard it on the radio. That would be terrible, 1 first would be bad and anything less than that would be ok, IMO. Worth the risk if your're the Jets at anything less than a first, IMO.
Outside of Wilson, there isn't much there on offense at all. Add to that a mediocre OL and an old, past his prime Rodgers, and their offense can be had.
oh stop. they have 3 wrs and 2 tight ends and rb that was on his way to roomie of the year.
LOL. Sure, they do. The BBI contingent that talks up the Jets every season only for them to miss the playoffs every year since 2010. The BBI midas touch.
yea thats me always talking about the jets when I post 2x a week. clown. Wilson, Moore, Davis, Conklin and Uzomah are better than any giant at those positions and if you dont think so, then again you are a clown
They're all amazing All Pro's for sure. Look at all the success they've led the Jets to since being here. And why compare them to the Giants? The Giants still went way further than the Jets last year even with the Jets having all of this amazing talent. Funny how that works, dipshit.
this response makes 0 sense. so they arent talented becauee they werent all pros and didnt go to the playoffs without an nfl qb? youre a fucking clown
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The Jets weapons are extremely overstated, too.
Outside of Wilson, there isn't much there on offense at all. Add to that a mediocre OL and an old, past his prime Rodgers, and their offense can be had.
oh stop. they have 3 wrs and 2 tight ends and rb that was on his way to roomie of the year.
LOL. Sure, they do. The BBI contingent that talks up the Jets every season only for them to miss the playoffs every year since 2010. The BBI midas touch.
yea thats me always talking about the jets when I post 2x a week. clown. Wilson, Moore, Davis, Conklin and Uzomah are better than any giant at those positions and if you dont think so, then again you are a clown
They're all amazing All Pro's for sure. Look at all the success they've led the Jets to since being here. And why compare them to the Giants? The Giants still went way further than the Jets last year even with the Jets having all of this amazing talent. Funny how that works, dipshit.
this response makes 0 sense. so they arent talented becauee they werent all pros and didnt go to the playoffs without an nfl qb? youre a fucking clown
I'm being sarcastic. Not surprised that you can't figure that out, dickless.
Too bad for the Packers. Jets shouldn’t have to give up much, especially if taking on that contract- however they restructure it.
It will be entertaining.
BTW- Klecko was against it thinking Rodgers is a terrible teammate for young receivers like Wilson, Mims and Moore. Though we as basing it on the body language that Rodgers showed with the Pack. Eye rolls and shrugs for every missed ball etc.
they had young ones and Rodgers being passive-aggressive, didn't want to go work out with them and help them develop.
And he has been known to throw balls to where he wants the WR’s not where they are even if the WR is open. Also audibling out of run plays to pass plays especially in red zone.
The Jets went 7-10 last year and most people say with a good QB they would have won 10 games. What people forget is that they won 2 games they should have lost against Cleveland and Pittsburgh so very easily could have been a 5 win team as well. Point is they still need a lot of improvements in other areas. They very well may get a playoff spot but selling out for 2 years of mediocrity such as 9/10 wins and a playoff slot is going to dump this team back in a hole in 2 years. They still have to beat out KC, Cincy, Buffalo and SD not to mention Jacksonville for the forseeable future all very good teams with young studs at QB
The Jets went 7-10 last year and most people say with a good QB they would have won 10 games. What people forget is that they won 2 games they should have lost against Cleveland and Pittsburgh so very easily could have been a 5 win team as well. Point is they still need a lot of improvements in other areas. They very well may get a playoff spot but selling out for 2 years of mediocrity such as 9/10 wins and a playoff slot is going to dump this team back in a hole in 2 years. They still have to beat out KC, Cincy, Buffalo and SD not to mention Jacksonville for the forseeable future all very good teams with young studs at QB
Correct. This move will take away at least 1 first, if not more as well as a significant amount of cap space. Someone mark it down, this isn't going to work and will set the Jets back drastically.
RE: RE: The Jets weapons are extremely overstated, too.
Outside of Wilson, there isn't much there on offense at all. Add to that a mediocre OL and an old, past his prime Rodgers, and their offense can be had.
oh stop. they have 3 wrs and 2 tight ends and rb that was on his way to roomie of the year.
I one won roomie of the year. it was during college and I worked part time in a liquor store. Liquor stores closed in CT at 8pm back then and I was a hero every time I came home from work with all my roommates orders
not just roomie of the year, but roomie HOF.
Man, took me a few to figure out where you were going
no way Rodgers wants to be a part of the clown show Jets. Woody Johnson? Douglas and Saleh who drafted Milf Hunter #2 and immediately proceeded to torpedo his development? Hackett, the guy who derailed Mr. Unlimited's HoF chances? Firemen Ed? Drunken Joe Namath interviewed for some reason and slurring insults at you when you have a bad game?
The Jets went 7-10 last year and most people say with a good QB they would have won 10 games. What people forget is that they won 2 games they should have lost against Cleveland and Pittsburgh so very easily could have been a 5 win team as well. Point is they still need a lot of improvements in other areas. They very well may get a playoff spot but selling out for 2 years of mediocrity such as 9/10 wins and a playoff slot is going to dump this team back in a hole in 2 years. They still have to beat out KC, Cincy, Buffalo and SD not to mention Jacksonville for the forseeable future all very good teams with young studs at QB
Correct. This move will take away at least 1 first, if not more as well as a significant amount of cap space. Someone mark it down, this isn't going to work and will set the Jets back drastically.
It’s a risk you take IMO. Chances are “building the right way” isn’t making you a favorite against the chiefs. So if you aren’t going to try and get an X factor, you are likely going to be a team the Chiefs and Bills, and Bengals run through when push comes to shove. And thats if things go well - if the Jets go with another rookie who stinks that’s an even bigger waste.
Either Joe Klecko and Nameth or both, I forget, did not think he would be a good idea because of his me first attitude and likley negative influence over the younger players in the locker room
It wasn't Namath. He said that Rodgers can wear his #12 and they can un-retire it for him. It was probably Klecko. This has Favre 2.0 written all over it. Rodgers will make the Jets better, no question, but he also showed he was kind of a choker in the big spot for years with more talented Packers teams (and he was younger).
This is kind of typical Woody Johnson. He saw the Giants suddenly come out of no where and make the playoffs. He needs an upgrade now to compete for eyeballs in NYC. Salah needs to win or he's gone, maybe same for Douglas. So this is your typical short term move to hot shot a title. Now, we saw it work for Tampa w/ Brady & Stafford in LA. But the difference is, both of those were NFC teams, a much easier road to get to the Super Bowl. Even with Rodgers, the Jets are still behind KC, Cincy and still probably Buffalo. In the end, they will get Rodgers. They will make the playoffs. And get bounced in the 2nd round. But that keeps Douglas/Salah alive, which I suppose then is worth it to the Jets, until they are in a total rebuild in 2 years.
We'll see how it all unfolds but this makes sense for the Jets. They are ready to win now. They have a really good defense, running game, and weapons on O. It doesn't sound like the compensation will be that much so they can use their picks to build up the OL more. I wouldn't be so quick to put Cincinnati above the Jets. The Jets can be the best team in the AFC. Odds are they won't be. The field is obviously the better bet but it wouldn't surprise me to see the Jets as a top team in the AFC and make noise in the playoffs. I am not crazy about Hackett though. We'll see.
would be interesting watch
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: This is not going to end well for either of these 2 ‘storied’ teams.
Either Joe Klecko and Nameth or both, I forget, did not think he would be a good idea because of his me first attitude and likley negative influence over the younger players in the locker room
It wasn't Namath. He said that Rodgers can wear his #12 and they can un-retire it for him. It was probably Klecko. This has Favre 2.0 written all over it. Rodgers will make the Jets better, no question, but he also showed he was kind of a choker in the big spot for years with more talented Packers teams (and he was younger).
This is kind of typical Woody Johnson. He saw the Giants suddenly come out of no where and make the playoffs. He needs an upgrade now to compete for eyeballs in NYC. Salah needs to win or he's gone, maybe same for Douglas. So this is your typical short term move to hot shot a title. Now, we saw it work for Tampa w/ Brady & Stafford in LA. But the difference is, both of those were NFC teams, a much easier road to get to the Super Bowl. Even with Rodgers, the Jets are still behind KC, Cincy and still probably Buffalo. In the end, they will get Rodgers. They will make the playoffs. And get bounced in the 2nd round. But that keeps Douglas/Salah alive, which I suppose then is worth it to the Jets, until they are in a total rebuild in 2 years.
We'll see how it all unfolds but this makes sense for the Jets. They are ready to win now. They have a really good defense, running game, and weapons on O. It doesn't sound like the compensation will be that much so they can use their picks to build up the OL more. I wouldn't be so quick to put Cincinnati above the Jets. The Jets can be the best team in the AFC. Odds are they won't be. The field is obviously the better bet but it wouldn't surprise me to see the Jets as a top team in the AFC and make noise in the playoffs. I am not crazy about Hackett though. We'll see.
would be interesting watch
Rodgers seemed on downside last yr
He also has to get in better shape. Looked more like a 50 yr old in shape than a 38 yr old
I really don’t like it on the Jets end. I would have tried harder to get Carr. Rodgers is at the end and is a head case. The daily media will eat at Rodgers. The Jets OL isn’t great either. They have a good nucleus but I don’t see this being more than a 1 year shot. I think the Jets will implode again.
and I don't know what the pundits are saying, but I don't see why a rebuilding team would even take on the salary of a 40-yr-old QB, much less give up draft picks for him.
Either Joe Klecko and Nameth or both, I forget, did not think he would be a good idea because of his me first attitude and likley negative influence over the younger players in the locker room
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Either Joe Klecko and Nameth or both, I forget, did not think he would be a good idea because of his me first attitude and likley negative influence over the younger players in the locker room
It wasn't Namath. He said that Rodgers can wear his #12 and they can un-retire it for him. It was probably Klecko. This has Favre 2.0 written all over it. Rodgers will make the Jets better, no question, but he also showed he was kind of a choker in the big spot for years with more talented Packers teams (and he was younger).
This is kind of typical Woody Johnson. He saw the Giants suddenly come out of no where and make the playoffs. He needs an upgrade now to compete for eyeballs in NYC. Salah needs to win or he's gone, maybe same for Douglas. So this is your typical short term move to hot shot a title. Now, we saw it work for Tampa w/ Brady & Stafford in LA. But the difference is, both of those were NFC teams, a much easier road to get to the Super Bowl. Even with Rodgers, the Jets are still behind KC, Cincy and still probably Buffalo. In the end, they will get Rodgers. They will make the playoffs. And get bounced in the 2nd round. But that keeps Douglas/Salah alive, which I suppose then is worth it to the Jets, until they are in a total rebuild in 2 years.
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Either Joe Klecko and Nameth or both, I forget, did not think he would be a good idea because of his me first attitude and likley negative influence over the younger players in the locker room
It wasn't Namath. He said that Rodgers can wear his #12 and they can un-retire it for him. It was probably Klecko. This has Favre 2.0 written all over it. Rodgers will make the Jets better, no question, but he also showed he was kind of a choker in the big spot for years with more talented Packers teams (and he was younger).
This is kind of typical Woody Johnson. He saw the Giants suddenly come out of no where and make the playoffs. He needs an upgrade now to compete for eyeballs in NYC. Salah needs to win or he's gone, maybe same for Douglas. So this is your typical short term move to hot shot a title. Now, we saw it work for Tampa w/ Brady & Stafford in LA. But the difference is, both of those were NFC teams, a much easier road to get to the Super Bowl. Even with Rodgers, the Jets are still behind KC, Cincy and still probably Buffalo. In the end, they will get Rodgers. They will make the playoffs. And get bounced in the 2nd round. But that keeps Douglas/Salah alive, which I suppose then is worth it to the Jets, until they are in a total rebuild in 2 years.
We'll see how it all unfolds but this makes sense for the Jets. They are ready to win now. They have a really good defense, running game, and weapons on O. It doesn't sound like the compensation will be that much so they can use their picks to build up the OL more. I wouldn't be so quick to put Cincinnati above the Jets. The Jets can be the best team in the AFC. Odds are they won't be. The field is obviously the better bet but it wouldn't surprise me to see the Jets as a top team in the AFC and make noise in the playoffs. I am not crazy about Hackett though. We'll see.
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Either Joe Klecko and Nameth or both, I forget, did not think he would be a good idea because of his me first attitude and likley negative influence over the younger players in the locker room
It wasn't Namath. He said that Rodgers can wear his #12 and they can un-retire it for him. It was probably Klecko. This has Favre 2.0 written all over it. Rodgers will make the Jets better, no question, but he also showed he was kind of a choker in the big spot for years with more talented Packers teams (and he was younger).
This is kind of typical Woody Johnson. He saw the Giants suddenly come out of no where and make the playoffs. He needs an upgrade now to compete for eyeballs in NYC. Salah needs to win or he's gone, maybe same for Douglas. So this is your typical short term move to hot shot a title. Now, we saw it work for Tampa w/ Brady & Stafford in LA. But the difference is, both of those were NFC teams, a much easier road to get to the Super Bowl. Even with Rodgers, the Jets are still behind KC, Cincy and still probably Buffalo. In the end, they will get Rodgers. They will make the playoffs. And get bounced in the 2nd round. But that keeps Douglas/Salah alive, which I suppose then is worth it to the Jets, until they are in a total rebuild in 2 years.
We'll see how it all unfolds but this makes sense for the Jets. They are ready to win now. They have a really good defense, running game, and weapons on O. It doesn't sound like the compensation will be that much so they can use their picks to build up the OL more. I wouldn't be so quick to put Cincinnati above the Jets. The Jets can be the best team in the AFC. Odds are they won't be. The field is obviously the better bet but it wouldn't surprise me to see the Jets as a top team in the AFC and make noise in the playoffs. I am not crazy about Hackett though. We'll see.
Can Rodgers co-exist with that running game? He seemed to get very annoyed when Green Bay was running more even when that was the only thing working. The Tampa Bay Conference Championship Game I thought they lost because they were not running the ball more to keep D off the field.
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Either Joe Klecko and Nameth or both, I forget, did not think he would be a good idea because of his me first attitude and likley negative influence over the younger players in the locker room
It wasn't Namath. He said that Rodgers can wear his #12 and they can un-retire it for him. It was probably Klecko. This has Favre 2.0 written all over it. Rodgers will make the Jets better, no question, but he also showed he was kind of a choker in the big spot for years with more talented Packers teams (and he was younger).
This is kind of typical Woody Johnson. He saw the Giants suddenly come out of no where and make the playoffs. He needs an upgrade now to compete for eyeballs in NYC. Salah needs to win or he's gone, maybe same for Douglas. So this is your typical short term move to hot shot a title. Now, we saw it work for Tampa w/ Brady & Stafford in LA. But the difference is, both of those were NFC teams, a much easier road to get to the Super Bowl. Even with Rodgers, the Jets are still behind KC, Cincy and still probably Buffalo. In the end, they will get Rodgers. They will make the playoffs. And get bounced in the 2nd round. But that keeps Douglas/Salah alive, which I suppose then is worth it to the Jets, until they are in a total rebuild in 2 years.
We'll see how it all unfolds but this makes sense for the Jets. They are ready to win now. They have a really good defense, running game, and weapons on O. It doesn't sound like the compensation will be that much so they can use their picks to build up the OL more. I wouldn't be so quick to put Cincinnati above the Jets. The Jets can be the best team in the AFC. Odds are they won't be. The field is obviously the better bet but it wouldn't surprise me to see the Jets as a top team in the AFC and make noise in the playoffs. I am not crazy about Hackett though. We'll see.
Can Rodgers co-exist with that running game? He seemed to get very annoyed when Green Bay was running more even when that was the only thing working. The Tampa Bay Conference Championship Game I thought they lost because they were not running the ball more to keep D off the field.
I disagree. He had shitty weapons. That is what was annoying him. He has said as much. I never once heard him complain about a running game.
You don’t know anything about Love. I know you love to praise every single team in the league for everything they do while constantly shitting on the Giants but come on now
I loathe that fanbase.
And only two super bowls and three appearances. I contend the Packers are actually a terrible franchise who has squandered back-to-back generational talents at quarterback.
The ripple effect on this will set the Jets back another 5 years imo.
The Jets are the definition of QB hell. Sort of reminds me of us getting Tarkenton or Snead back in the day
What has Love proven? What a weird statement.
What has Love done to deserve praise? Also their wide receivers are just as bad as the Giants. They need more than fixing the offensive line.
Rodgers is on the decline and will not be the same guy without the high end arm talent like Brady can be.
From the Jets perspective, I get why they think it makes sense. They have a major weakness on offense and on paper, this fills that hole. However, it's not that simple. These guys don't know how to win and win consistently. That takes time to learn and they don't have time. Rodgers is coming to a perennial loser, not a team thats won games and just needs a QB.
The Jets defense was good, but not elite. Hall is good, but now coming off an ACL(how'd barkley look his first year back?). Wilson looks good, but he's young and inexperienced. The OL hasn't been great. They are up against the cap.
I don't think this will work and it will set the Jets back.
I suspect that 30 year run of HOF QB’s is going to come to a crashing halt. Love will be, at best, serviceable, but I don’t see an other-worldly talent.
I loathe that fanbase.
It baffles me as to why people give a shit of what is said on talk radio (and I’ve worked in and around radio most of my 40 year career). Their entire game plan is to get people riled up, so they put callers on who will say things to do that.
I have a bunch of friends who are Jets fans, they are far more likely to be “woe is me” than talking trash.
I don't see this going well.
this is a win/win for both teams. Rodgers can still play at a high level, just look at his back to back MVP's in 20/21. Rodgers has been frustrated at leaderships lack of getting him weapons and then trades the best WR in the game with no replacement. The Packers haven't drafted a first round WR since 2002 with Javon Walker.
Jets are built to win now and will bend over backwards to get Rodgers whatever he needs.
Packers can start Love and continue doing what they've been found. Without the cap hit.
I don't see this going well.
Rodgers isn't known for winning? He's 150-79-1. 11-10 in the playoffs and a Super Bowl ring. What are we talking about here
I loathe that fanbase.
All due respect you need to stop using talk radio as some type of real insight into true knowledgeable and committed fans.
It really isn't. Lamar is going to be a much bigger commitment financially and through draft picks.
Rodgers still has talent and the Jets have a lot of pieces in place. Just not QB.
If Wilson gets cut I think he might be a good reclamation project to see if Kafka can get him "fixed" and then flip him after he fills in for Jones if Jones is injured. Not a Jones hater at all, but he has missed games every season of his career so far for one reason or another, so no reason to think that will change.
He’ll do well until the bloom is off the rose, then it could get interesting.
To me the question and the real drama is managing Rodgers. I could see LaFleur just hating Rodgers. i think the whole org likely hated him (not the players). Dude is HARD to manage. How Saleh will handle that will be huge.
oh stop. they have 3 wrs and 2 tight ends and rb that was on his way to roomie of the year.
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It really isn't. Lamar is going to be a much bigger commitment financially and through draft picks.
i dont think rodgers is going to be a small commitment and his window is what? 1 year? it sounds like he came real close to calling it quits this year.
lamar probably costs at least 2x overall but at 26 years old he gives you a window 3-5x longer. and the jets are pretty young roster.
He’ll do well until the bloom is off the rose, then it could get interesting.
Yeah, he somehow had some issues dealing with the Green Bay media at times. I mean, how can someone have a tough time with the Green Bay media? Can't wait for Rodgers to realize the OL is mediocre, he was one true weapon to throw the ball to (Wilson), and not much else. Wait until he starts getting sacked. Going to be fun to see the finer-pointing game start.
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Outside of Wilson, there isn't much there on offense at all. Add to that a mediocre OL and an old, past his prime Rodgers, and their offense can be had.
oh stop. they have 3 wrs and 2 tight ends and rb that was on his way to roomie of the year.
LOL. Sure, they do. The BBI contingent that talks up the Jets every season only for them to miss the playoffs every year since 2010. The BBI midas touch.
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Outside of Wilson, there isn't much there on offense at all. Add to that a mediocre OL and an old, past his prime Rodgers, and their offense can be had.
oh stop. they have 3 wrs and 2 tight ends and rb that was on his way to roomie of the year.
LOL. Sure, they do. The BBI contingent that talks up the Jets every season only for them to miss the playoffs every year since 2010. The BBI midas touch.
yea thats me always talking about the jets when I post 2x a week. clown. Wilson, Moore, Davis, Conklin and Uzomah are better than any giant at those positions and if you dont think so, then again you are a clown
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Outside of Wilson, there isn't much there on offense at all. Add to that a mediocre OL and an old, past his prime Rodgers, and their offense can be had.
oh stop. they have 3 wrs and 2 tight ends and rb that was on his way to roomie of the year.
LOL. Sure, they do. The BBI contingent that talks up the Jets every season only for them to miss the playoffs every year since 2010. The BBI midas touch.
yea thats me always talking about the jets when I post 2x a week. clown. Wilson, Moore, Davis, Conklin and Uzomah are better than any giant at those positions and if you dont think so, then again you are a clown
They're all amazing All Pro's for sure. Look at all the success they've led the Jets to since being here. And why compare them to the Giants? The Giants still went way further than the Jets last year even with the Jets having all of this amazing talent. Funny how that works, dipshit.
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Outside of Wilson, there isn't much there on offense at all. Add to that a mediocre OL and an old, past his prime Rodgers, and their offense can be had.
oh stop. they have 3 wrs and 2 tight ends and rb that was on his way to roomie of the year.
LOL. Sure, they do. The BBI contingent that talks up the Jets every season only for them to miss the playoffs every year since 2010. The BBI midas touch.
yea thats me always talking about the jets when I post 2x a week. clown. Wilson, Moore, Davis, Conklin and Uzomah are better than any giant at those positions and if you dont think so, then again you are a clown
They're all amazing All Pro's for sure. Look at all the success they've led the Jets to since being here. And why compare them to the Giants? The Giants still went way further than the Jets last year even with the Jets having all of this amazing talent. Funny how that works, dipshit.
this response makes 0 sense. so they arent talented becauee they werent all pros and didnt go to the playoffs without an nfl qb? youre a fucking clown
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Outside of Wilson, there isn't much there on offense at all. Add to that a mediocre OL and an old, past his prime Rodgers, and their offense can be had.
oh stop. they have 3 wrs and 2 tight ends and rb that was on his way to roomie of the year.
LOL. Sure, they do. The BBI contingent that talks up the Jets every season only for them to miss the playoffs every year since 2010. The BBI midas touch.
yea thats me always talking about the jets when I post 2x a week. clown. Wilson, Moore, Davis, Conklin and Uzomah are better than any giant at those positions and if you dont think so, then again you are a clown
They're all amazing All Pro's for sure. Look at all the success they've led the Jets to since being here. And why compare them to the Giants? The Giants still went way further than the Jets last year even with the Jets having all of this amazing talent. Funny how that works, dipshit.
this response makes 0 sense. so they arent talented becauee they werent all pros and didnt go to the playoffs without an nfl qb? youre a fucking clown
I'm being sarcastic. Not surprised that you can't figure that out, dickless.
It will be entertaining.
BTW- Klecko was against it thinking Rodgers is a terrible teammate for young receivers like Wilson, Mims and Moore. Though we as basing it on the body language that Rodgers showed with the Pack. Eye rolls and shrugs for every missed ball etc.
And he has been known to throw balls to where he wants the WR’s not where they are even if the WR is open. Also audibling out of run plays to pass plays especially in red zone.
Correct. This move will take away at least 1 first, if not more as well as a significant amount of cap space. Someone mark it down, this isn't going to work and will set the Jets back drastically.
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Outside of Wilson, there isn't much there on offense at all. Add to that a mediocre OL and an old, past his prime Rodgers, and their offense can be had.
oh stop. they have 3 wrs and 2 tight ends and rb that was on his way to roomie of the year.
I one won roomie of the year. it was during college and I worked part time in a liquor store. Liquor stores closed in CT at 8pm back then and I was a hero every time I came home from work with all my roommates orders
not just roomie of the year, but roomie HOF.
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The Jets went 7-10 last year and most people say with a good QB they would have won 10 games. What people forget is that they won 2 games they should have lost against Cleveland and Pittsburgh so very easily could have been a 5 win team as well. Point is they still need a lot of improvements in other areas. They very well may get a playoff spot but selling out for 2 years of mediocrity such as 9/10 wins and a playoff slot is going to dump this team back in a hole in 2 years. They still have to beat out KC, Cincy, Buffalo and SD not to mention Jacksonville for the forseeable future all very good teams with young studs at QB
Correct. This move will take away at least 1 first, if not more as well as a significant amount of cap space. Someone mark it down, this isn't going to work and will set the Jets back drastically.
It’s a risk you take IMO. Chances are “building the right way” isn’t making you a favorite against the chiefs. So if you aren’t going to try and get an X factor, you are likely going to be a team the Chiefs and Bills, and Bengals run through when push comes to shove. And thats if things go well - if the Jets go with another rookie who stinks that’s an even bigger waste.
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Either Joe Klecko and Nameth or both, I forget, did not think he would be a good idea because of his me first attitude and likley negative influence over the younger players in the locker room
It wasn't Namath. He said that Rodgers can wear his #12 and they can un-retire it for him. It was probably Klecko. This has Favre 2.0 written all over it. Rodgers will make the Jets better, no question, but he also showed he was kind of a choker in the big spot for years with more talented Packers teams (and he was younger).
This is kind of typical Woody Johnson. He saw the Giants suddenly come out of no where and make the playoffs. He needs an upgrade now to compete for eyeballs in NYC. Salah needs to win or he's gone, maybe same for Douglas. So this is your typical short term move to hot shot a title. Now, we saw it work for Tampa w/ Brady & Stafford in LA. But the difference is, both of those were NFC teams, a much easier road to get to the Super Bowl. Even with Rodgers, the Jets are still behind KC, Cincy and still probably Buffalo. In the end, they will get Rodgers. They will make the playoffs. And get bounced in the 2nd round. But that keeps Douglas/Salah alive, which I suppose then is worth it to the Jets, until they are in a total rebuild in 2 years.
We'll see how it all unfolds but this makes sense for the Jets. They are ready to win now. They have a really good defense, running game, and weapons on O. It doesn't sound like the compensation will be that much so they can use their picks to build up the OL more. I wouldn't be so quick to put Cincinnati above the Jets. The Jets can be the best team in the AFC. Odds are they won't be. The field is obviously the better bet but it wouldn't surprise me to see the Jets as a top team in the AFC and make noise in the playoffs. I am not crazy about Hackett though. We'll see.
would be interesting watch
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Either Joe Klecko and Nameth or both, I forget, did not think he would be a good idea because of his me first attitude and likley negative influence over the younger players in the locker room
It wasn't Namath. He said that Rodgers can wear his #12 and they can un-retire it for him. It was probably Klecko. This has Favre 2.0 written all over it. Rodgers will make the Jets better, no question, but he also showed he was kind of a choker in the big spot for years with more talented Packers teams (and he was younger).
This is kind of typical Woody Johnson. He saw the Giants suddenly come out of no where and make the playoffs. He needs an upgrade now to compete for eyeballs in NYC. Salah needs to win or he's gone, maybe same for Douglas. So this is your typical short term move to hot shot a title. Now, we saw it work for Tampa w/ Brady & Stafford in LA. But the difference is, both of those were NFC teams, a much easier road to get to the Super Bowl. Even with Rodgers, the Jets are still behind KC, Cincy and still probably Buffalo. In the end, they will get Rodgers. They will make the playoffs. And get bounced in the 2nd round. But that keeps Douglas/Salah alive, which I suppose then is worth it to the Jets, until they are in a total rebuild in 2 years.
We'll see how it all unfolds but this makes sense for the Jets. They are ready to win now. They have a really good defense, running game, and weapons on O. It doesn't sound like the compensation will be that much so they can use their picks to build up the OL more. I wouldn't be so quick to put Cincinnati above the Jets. The Jets can be the best team in the AFC. Odds are they won't be. The field is obviously the better bet but it wouldn't surprise me to see the Jets as a top team in the AFC and make noise in the playoffs. I am not crazy about Hackett though. We'll see.
would be interesting watch
Rodgers seemed on downside last yr
He also has to get in better shape. Looked more like a 50 yr old in shape than a 38 yr old
That said , I look forward for us beating them.
Framework has not been worked out.
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God why do I always read twitter comments and then deeply regret it. There's a poll asking if the Jets should trade Sauce for Rogers.
Hard pass.
Wasn't Favre doing well his first season there before he got hurt and didn't tell anyone?
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I also think Rodgers would explode after one year of the New York media spotlight. I am not sure he's wired for it.