Giants are gonna be big players in the DL/LB market. Been in constant contact with Agent gaging market. Biggest names to watch are Zach Allen formerly of Arizona, David Long Jr., Dalvin Tomlinson, A’Shawn Robinson, Dean Lowry, Demarcus Walker, Azeez Al-Shaair, Anthony Walker, Bobby Okereke and Germaine Pratt.
Giants also looking to add a CB. Inquired on Marcus Peters, Byron Murphy, Greedy Williams (brother of Rodarius), and Jamal Dean.
Giants looking to Resign their IOL (Gates and Feliciano) continue to add young pieces through draft.
Giants looking to add TE depth. Interest in Dan Arnold formerly of Jacksonville.
Edmunds and Irv Smith as well, to a lesser extent. Edmunds going to cost too much…
Why? We have JE, MM both coming back from injury and we will definitely draft a Center candidate this year.
Edmunds and Irv Smith as well, to a lesser extent. Edmunds going to cost too much…
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having guys who are cheap and know the system is important. Not every signing is an all pro
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Just because you sign them, doesn't mean they make the team. No problem bringing them to Camp to fight for a spot.
Again, cheaper and probably better option coming from the draft. Solid Centers available this April.
TE makes sense if you follow Buffalo and KC. Yes, Kelce is all world but he was a later round draft choice. Buffalo had Knox a 3rd and then spot duty and specific type of 2nd and 3rd TE's. The Draft is very deep at TE!
Dalvin could get 50% of the snaps in a 3 man rotation
Probably can put LEO at 5T for some too. Maybe. Didn’t he spend some time there before?
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Dalvin could get 50% of the snaps in a 3 man rotation
Probably can put LEO at 5T for some too. Maybe. Didn’t he spend some time there before?
Depends on LEO cap #
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Dalvin could get 50% of the snaps in a 3 man rotation
Probably can put LEO at 5T for some too. Maybe. Didn’t he spend some time there before?
Depends on LEO cap #
I’m also glad this chatter doesn’t revolve around overpaying for second rate or oft-injured WRs. We’ve sort of been there, done that recently. Let’s hit on some draft picks and swing for the fences with WR only when the guy is well worth it
3 of the top 4 WRs are coming off injury (Shepard, Wandale Robinson and Collin Johnson). And the fact that Johnson's in the top 4 tells you something.
The cupboard is pretty bare, and it's the single biggest improvement the team can make.
Same. If not Dalvin then A Shawn will be nice.
Murphy at CB would be solid
He's been bad in the NFL. No thanks.
Isnt Dalvin a CFP?
wouldnt be surprised if he wants to be back near wall st for when career done
Will have to bid against the Texans (Demeco Ryans) and Tampa, but Giants can offer playoff contender.
averett had the 2nd most press reps of any cb in football in 2021 under wink and he's from NJ (played at bama when daboll was there too). last year he had a 1 year 4m deal in LV but went on IR early in the year with a broken thumb and then reinjured it late.
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I would take a look at Rock Ya-Sin. The area scout for Indy when he was drafted is now with us and I think he would fit Wink’s scheme.
He's been bad in the NFL. No thanks.
If you look at his numbers with Vegas they did improve. I think he could be available at the right price for Wink.
And I agree with the posts above, I would think the Giants are leaning WR at #25.
The 3 year savings of cutting Golladay is 30M+. I'd love to see DT on a 3/30M deal.
Im a newbie here
FA is good for filling depth, rotational players, and certain positions that are not the really expensive ones. So, my opinion of the optimal approach to FA...
DL rotational players and backups with an occasional starter
LB This is a fairly inexpensive position so starters, rotational and backups
CB backups
S rotational and backups with an occasional starter
Edge backups only
OT backups only
OG backups with an occasional starter
OC backups rarely a starter
TE rotational and backups with an occasional starter
RB all is fair game, but don't spend over about 5M on any player
WR 3, 4, and 5 WR again do not overpay
QB Backups only
Use the draft or trades to get your high end starters at WR, Edge and CB. And with very few exceptions use only the draft for your starting QB.
Now Linval Joseph was the one who got away during the early stages of the great destruction of the LOS under Reese.
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it was voted on.
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somebody with inside information
Edmunds and Irv Smith as well, to a lesser extent. Edmunds going to cost too much…
The Beats don't know anything.
IMO until the Giants greatly improve their D front 7 and the middle of their OL they won't be able to compete with Philadelphia and Dallas.
Hopefully they make some good choices and get some better injury luck than 2022.
IMO until the Giants greatly improve their D front 7 and the middle of their OL they won't be able to compete with Philadelphia and Dallas.
Hopefully they make some good choices and get some better injury luck than 2022.
Let’s see what transpires first in FA. Wouldn’t be surprised to see 3 or 4 defensive additions. Some vet depth. Some starter material
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My recollection is that it was Randy's suggestion, and then voted on, but I could be wrong ... wouldn't be the first time, ask my ex-wives
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IMO until the Giants greatly improve their D front 7 and the middle of their OL they won't be able to compete with Philadelphia and Dallas.
Hopefully they make some good choices and get some better injury luck than 2022.
This roster still needs a very significant infusion of talent in many areas.
I too am optimistic about the new regime.
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Hear me out, since his opening press conference Joe Schoen has talked about the cost of certain positions in free agency vs the draft.
Hopefully by now most of us understand that Michael Lewis's Moneyball book had nothing to do with bunting or on base percentage. The principle point of the book Moneyball was the A's competing by acquiring players who were undervalued in the marketplace.
I think and I'm hopeful that's the strategy the Giants FO and coaching staff are going to use to sign several FA at least average starters for the DL depth, ILB above average starter (will be expensive but not LT or WR expensive), IOL (please spend some money and sign an experienced better than 2022 C) and TE blocking depth.
The previous GM did the opposite by setting the FA OT market with a record contract and then paid the very top of the market for an injured/declining FA WR. Both contracts were a disaster.
Coming up tomorrow is going to be another important week for the Giants.
What Schoen does understand and what he wants to do is build through the draft. He will have to do a much better job then both previous GM's or he then will be forced to go to FA.
Positional value is a guide but is not a end all. If you have a star at most position that makes a impact you pay them market value imv. What is important if you have heavy at one positional group you make it up elsewhere. Again, good drafting helps with this.
He said good things like type of defense the DL also culture which was great
Btw.. I’m for signing him.. then he said sth which might not make us as attractive.. he also said one of the things he was looking for.. No state tax!!!
If we want him we probably need to overpay to compensate no taxes.. I don’t feel as confident since we are not going to overpay which btw.. we shouldn’t!
He said good things like type of defense the DL also culture which was great
Btw.. I’m for signing him.. then he said sth which might not make us as attractive.. he also said one of the things he was looking for.. No state tax!!!
If we want him we probably need to overpay to compensate no taxes.. I don’t feel as confident since we are not going to overpay which btw.. we shouldn’t!
Think there are only 5 states without state income tax - Nevada, Tennessee, Florida, Texas and Washington.
Draft wise the only name I've heard thus far is Zay Flowers but its still early on that front.
Schoen's working the phones. Wouldn't be surprised to see a big trade happen.
Draft wise the only name I've heard thus far is Zay Flowers but its still early on that front.
Schoen's working the phones. Wouldn't be surprised to see a big trade happen.
What WR or TE are worth trading for?
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“Wink loves A-gap pressure. There is a guy that should be available soon that Wink will pound the table for and absolutely LOVED in Baltimore.”
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Draft wise the only name I've heard thus far is Zay Flowers but its still early on that front.
Schoen's working the phones. Wouldn't be surprised to see a big trade happen.
I am wondering if Evans in TB will become available as well as Davis (Buff), Jeudy (Den), Hopkins ( AZ, already known trade possibility), Waller TE (LV), Davis/Mins (NYJ), Bateman (Balt), Pittman (Indy) and Ayiuk (SF).
Tomlinson is #94:
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37 years old in week 1. I've always liked him, reminds me a little of Chris Canty. Campbell needs 1 more sack for career 100.
I do have some mixed feelings about that as he's so long in the tooth.
You know there's another guy who played last season with the Ravens, also a little long in the tooth but can certainly generate A-gap pressure... who is a free agent, and that is Mr. Jason Pierre-Paul.
Sy, your thoughts on a Dalvin Tomlinson reunion? I don't see it. My thought is Dalvin would likely prefer a place he would have a clearer path to start. If he signs with NY, it would be for a rotational DT money to give Dex a blow and play on short-yardage/goal line sub-packages, most likely. They aren't likely to play Dalvin at DE. Tomlinson just turned 29 years old, I don't see him at the point in his career where he'd be at peace with signing just as rotational depth. I don't see this situation as one that matches up with him.
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37 years old in week 1. I've always liked him, reminds me a little of Chris Canty. Campbell needs 1 more sack for career 100.
I do have some mixed feelings about that as he's so long in the tooth.
You know there's another guy who played last season with the Ravens, also a little long in the tooth but can certainly generate A-gap pressure... who is a free agent, and that is Mr. Jason Pierre-Paul.
Sy, your thoughts on a Dalvin Tomlinson reunion? I don't see it. My thought is Dalvin would likely prefer a place he would have a clearer path to start. If he signs with NY, it would be for a rotational DT money to give Dex a blow and play on short-yardage/goal line sub-packages, most likely. They aren't likely to play Dalvin at DE. Tomlinson just turned 29 years old, I don't see him at the point in his career where he'd be at peace with signing just as rotational depth. I don't see this situation as one that matches up with him.
3rd rotational DT usually gets a good amount of PT ( like a 3rd cb). Wouldn’t be lacking for snaps. jMHO
Here's a guy that is really interesting to me...Demarcus Walker. Walker, former Florida State standout, is a 6'4" 280 DE. Things didn't really workout in Denver, just kind of alright there during his 4 years there, really only contributed a little the last two. Then he went to Houston where he didn't really distinguish himself there either.
But then he plays in Tennessee last year, and here's where it gets interesting. He has 7 sacks, 16 QB hits, and 10 TFLs, with 32 total tackles. But he also only had 6 starts, and played just 37% of Tennessee's defensive snaps on the year, just 426 total.
Now, the big ticket DE this offseason in free agency is Javon Hargrave from Philly. He played 712 defensive snaps for the Eagles, had 60 tackles, 11 sacks...and get this...16 QB hits and 10 TFLs...the same as DeMarcus Walker. Wondering if Walker is just starting to unlock something. Walker's 7 sacks on 426 snaps translates to a sack every 60.85 snaps.
That's a really high rate, nearly elite. For example, a lot of DE starters get around 800 snaps...if Walker sustained that rate and got full-time starter reps, that would translate to 13+ sacks. Now, I understand this isn't how football works, and obviously the longer you are on the field the more diminished the returns can be, but still, that's impressive, and it seems to have come out of nowhere.
Run defense gave up 145 yards/game. Against division opponents over 160/game. I think DE, OLB and ILB all need attention.
Lines of Scrimmage: Blaming Jerry Reese for the Nate Solder signing is... creative. Reese was responsible for drafting Ereck Flowers and passing on Laremy Tunsil. Those were awful decisions, but they didn't force Dave Gettleman's hand. Signing Solder was an integral part of Gettleman's "Win now with Eli" fantasy. The mess he inherited was a compelling reason not to throw money at older vets like Solder. The team needed a tear-down. Gettleman went for a quick fix.
I am not expecting a lot in FA ILB* stop gap 1 to 2 years S (love or otherwise) a tier 2 vet at WR or TE.
*Maybe he does something there semi-splashy but it should be a magically contract.
It was a terribly executed plan by Dave but I also do not believe he had the authority to conduct a tear down. For me, I think Mara wanted to put the best team together possible and let Eli finish his contract on good terms. It was a colossal failure but I understood the reasoning.
Onwards we go.
Here's a guy that is really interesting to me...Demarcus Walker. Walker, former Florida State standout, is a 6'4" 280 DE. Things didn't really workout in Denver, just kind of alright there during his 4 years there, really only contributed a little the last two. Then he went to Houston where he didn't really distinguish himself there either.
But then he plays in Tennessee last year, and here's where it gets interesting. He has 7 sacks, 16 QB hits, and 10 TFLs, with 32 total tackles. But he also only had 6 starts, and played just 37% of Tennessee's defensive snaps on the year, just 426 total.
Now, the big ticket DE this offseason in free agency is Javon Hargrave from Philly. He played 712 defensive snaps for the Eagles, had 60 tackles, 11 sacks...and get this...16 QB hits and 10 TFLs...the same as DeMarcus Walker. Wondering if Walker is just starting to unlock something. Walker's 7 sacks on 426 snaps translates to a sack every 60.85 snaps.
That's a really high rate, nearly elite. For example, a lot of DE starters get around 800 snaps...if Walker sustained that rate and got full-time starter reps, that would translate to 13+ sacks. Now, I understand this isn't how football works, and obviously the longer you are on the field the more diminished the returns can be, but still, that's impressive, and it seems to have come out of nowhere.
Struggled with a stutter growing up all the way through college. Has worked on it and just started doing team interviews recently. Says it’s helped him a lot with his confidence. He has a foundation for kids with speech impediments.
Think there is a certain young member on the Giants he could be a good bet for?
who are the much better options?
The FA WR class is pretty weak, so it stands to reason that there wouldn't be a ton of rumored FA activity for a WR. Does anyone want to pay top dollar for Jakobi Meyers or D.J. Chark?
I think the WR help will come via draft picks, either as rookie selections or in trade, because there's nowhere else to find a player who even resembles a WR1 when you squint really hard.
Whoosh.
Gates injury seems to be the type that a player can return from but isn't quite the same until year 2 of the recovery in terms of full strength and explosion.
“We had Feliciano in Buffalo with us, and it’s not just on the field with some of these guys,’’ Schoen said. “Leadership in the locker room and within their position group that you really gotta make sure you don’t let a lot of leadership walk out of the building, and that’s gonna be a concerted effort for some of these guys — backups, starters, whatever it may be, we want to retain some of our leadership.’’
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Run defense gave up 145 yards/game. Against division opponents over 160/game. I think DE, OLB and ILB all need attention.
Yes, he would be a DE in a 3-4 system that the Giants currently run. He's a DT in the Eagles' 4-3 system.
Some names I'm watching for Giants as the negotiating window opens: ILBs Germain Pratt, Bobby Okereke, Drue Tranquil; WRs Odell Beckham Jr., Nelson Agholor; TE Irv Smith Jr. and Dan Arnold; DL Hassan Ridgeway, A'Shawn Robinson, Sheldon Rankins
Part of my would love to see 13 back in blue. Part of me says careful what you wish for lol
Some names I'm watching for Giants as the negotiating window opens: ILBs Germain Pratt, Bobby Okereke, Drue Tranquil; WRs Odell Beckham Jr., Nelson Agholor; TE Irv Smith Jr. and Dan Arnold; DL Hassan Ridgeway, A'Shawn Robinson, Sheldon Rankins
Dear God. Please no Agholor.
Some names I'm watching for Giants as the negotiating window opens: ILBs Germain Pratt, Bobby Okereke, Drue Tranquil; WRs Odell Beckham Jr., Nelson Agholor; TE Irv Smith Jr. and Dan Arnold; DL Hassan Ridgeway, A'Shawn Robinson, Sheldon Rankins
So deep threats at WR and move TEs offensively.
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Some names I'm watching for Giants as the negotiating window opens: ILBs Germain Pratt, Bobby Okereke, Drue Tranquil; WRs Odell Beckham Jr., Nelson Agholor; TE Irv Smith Jr. and Dan Arnold; DL Hassan Ridgeway, A'Shawn Robinson, Sheldon Rankins
Dear God. Please no Agholor.
Agreed. Hands as bad as Slayton's.
I would have to give it some serious thought.
I would have to give it some serious thought.
I think I speak for Joe, no. I believe he already said no to that per asshats. Thankfully.
I would have to give it some serious thought.
No. He was drafted at #15 3 years ago and has 9 td's and 0 1000 yd seasons in 3 years. our 2nd rounder is all I'd even think about giving up. If they want a first too bad, move on to someone else.
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for #25 if you are Schoen?
I would have to give it some serious thought.
I think I speak for Joe, no. I believe he already said no to that per asshats. Thankfully.
When he said no.. we were drafting in the mid teens.. Now we have the 25th pick.. Maybe that changes the dynamic a little?
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I have nothing to add on the FA front but the Giants are very engaged in the trade market for WR's and TE's.
Draft wise the only name I've heard thus far is Zay Flowers but its still early on that front.
Schoen's working the phones. Wouldn't be surprised to see a big trade happen.
I am wondering if Evans in TB will become available as well as Davis (Buff), Jeudy (Den), Hopkins ( AZ, already known trade possibility), Waller TE (LV), Davis/Mins (NYJ), Bateman (Balt), Pittman (Indy) and Ayiuk (SF).
Good list. LV is a team to watch. Over the target on Waller.
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I have nothing to add on the FA front but the Giants are very engaged in the trade market for WR's and TE's.
Draft wise the only name I've heard thus far is Zay Flowers but its still early on that front.
Schoen's working the phones. Wouldn't be surprised to see a big trade happen.
I am wondering if Evans in TB will become available as well as Davis (Buff), Jeudy (Den), Hopkins ( AZ, already known trade possibility), Waller TE (LV), Davis/Mins (NYJ), Bateman (Balt), Pittman (Indy) and Ayiuk (SF).
Good list. LV is a team to watch. Over the target on Waller.
Appreciate all the info Grit!
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Interesting!
Gotta be revisting talks with Denver with that deal they just gave out. Wonder if it's still Jeudy tho...as someone said on another thread, Sutton could be a more likely option at this point.
A third and 5th would be a steal for Jeudy..
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Jeudy again.
A third and 5th would be a steal for Jeudy..
They were this close last Fall at same terms.
he was clicking with russell wilson down the stretch (post trade deadline) and as their best/cheapest receiver, why would they trade him for anything other than a really strong return?
he had his 3 best games of the year in the last 5 weeks, each obviously after the deadline.
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More important question, which one has better speed and separation skills, as that is what JD said they look for from the WR spot
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I could be wrong. But I think this is just an account that is probably linked with BBI, seen the post and connecting the dots.
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Is that a reliable account?
I think he's tracking this thread and posting.
I think he's tracking this thread and posting.
Gotch ya. Thanks!
He was a FA anyways.
Give them a 2024 2nd
Which will essentially be a 3rd after we win the Super Bowl:)
That account on 1/23 posted “Giants closing in on a 4 yr 56mil deal with Barkley”
It’s clearly a fan/speculation account with 0 sources
Seems really low comp for BA
Would LOVE this...but i'm thinking SF can fetch alot more.....
I think it gets done tomorrow.
I think we can find a guy in the draft this year that will be effective in our offense. Hopefully the value lines up; it's always a bit tricky as WR like QB can often get pushed up higher due to team needs. But we'll have to see how that plays out - and if the pick doesn't line up w/talent when we're on the clock, don't force it. Never good to force a 'need' pick.
why trade your best receiver for a 2nd round pick? saving 4m isn't a good reason.
why trade your best receiver for a 2nd round pick? saving 4m isn't a good reason.
It makes sense if they plan on not paying him after this contract. And Russ damn sure is taking up a lot of cap space...
No way I’d give up a 3 and 5 for Elijah Moore. He’s decent but extremely overrated here on BBI. Also, this is a dude that demanded a trade and left the team for awhile last year because he wasn’t getting the ball enough. No thanks.
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he makes 4m and had his best year last year. 3 of his best games were in the last month, after they decided to hold him at the deadline presumably because nobody would meet their price. and before they hired sean payton and decided to clearly go for it asap.
why trade your best receiver for a 2nd round pick? saving 4m isn't a good reason.
It makes sense if they plan on not paying him after this contract. And Russ damn sure is taking up a lot of cap space...
he is under contract this year cheap, and next year reasonably (less than sutton who is non-gtd then). they could save more this year by offloading sutton or tim patrick.
jeudy is healthier, more productive, and 4-5 years younger than both of them. the only reason for him to be odd man out is if he can bring back something significant in a trade.
I am not expecting a lot in FA ILB* stop gap 1 to 2 years S (love or otherwise) a tier 2 vet at WR or TE.
*Maybe he does something there semi-splashy but it should be a magical contract.
Ha ... I like it so far....lol
Now if you're asking me who I prefer - it's Jeudy all day. I'd probably still prefer Jeudy at a 2 over Sutton at a 3+. That comp seems way too light and the Broncos priority in a trade seems to have flipped with Jeudy coming on late and the coaching change.
I've been checking in on this thread a handful of times a day, guilty.
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More important question, which one has better speed and separation skills, as that is what JD said they look for from the WR spot
Neither is a burner, but Jeudy is an elite route runner. There are other ways than pure speed to create separation. I’d prefer Jeudy, I think he is starting to figure things out, but Sutton would be a nice add too.
But with one year left on his deal, what does a WR on an expiring contract fetch in a trade? A WR (by his draft slot) has underperformed.
Now if you're asking me who I prefer - it's Jeudy all day. I'd probably still prefer Jeudy at a 2 over Sutton at a 3+. That comp seems way too light and the Broncos priority in a trade seems to have flipped with Jeudy coming on late and the coaching change.
also if we are comparing to what's avail in UFA, jeudy would be the #1 UFA by far and probably get at least as much as christian kirk last year - probably more.
which would be a lot more than OBJ gets, who is probably the best UFA WR (or meyers).
Sutton and Hopkins are each more comparable in value with OBJ. All 3 are on the older end with injury questions but talented enough to have 1 or 2 big years for someone.
the rest of the market for the most part is role players. none of the above are no-brainers (unless jeudy is really available cheap).
But with one year left on his deal, what does a WR on an expiring contract fetch in a trade? A WR (by his draft slot) has underperformed.
he has 2 years left at 17m total if they pick up his 5yo which they almost definitely will do.
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he makes 4m and had his best year last year. 3 of his best games were in the last month, after they decided to hold him at the deadline presumably because nobody would meet their price. and before they hired sean payton and decided to clearly go for it asap.
why trade your best receiver for a 2nd round pick? saving 4m isn't a good reason.
It makes sense if they plan on not paying him after this contract. And Russ damn sure is taking up a lot of cap space...
he is under contract this year cheap, and next year reasonably (less than sutton who is non-gtd then). they could save more this year by offloading sutton or tim patrick.
jeudy is healthier, more productive, and 4-5 years younger than both of them. the only reason for him to be odd man out is if he can bring back something significant in a trade.
I think you captured just about every variable in the equation. The one other one is behind the scenes stuff we may not know about. Maybe there is some acrimony there for one reason or another.
But short of that, moving Sutton makes so much more sense. They are tight against the cap and his contract is much bigger than Jeudy's. He's also coming off an injury and hasn't quite looked as explosive as he has in the past.
Now Jeudy is 1 year away from a 5th year option that would make him a bit more costly and they could likely get a pretty good WR with a 2nd round pick. But I agree I just don't see them giving away Jeudy for anything less than a 2 at this point. Sutton maybe.
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being the route runner of the two, feels like the better fit. JS was just quoted on saying we need WRs that get open.
But with one year left on his deal, what does a WR on an expiring contract fetch in a trade? A WR (by his draft slot) has underperformed.
he has 2 years left at 17m total if they pick up his 5yo which they almost definitely will do.
good point, forgot about the 5th year option.
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I have nothing to add on the FA front but the Giants are very engaged in the trade market for WR's and TE's.
Draft wise the only name I've heard thus far is Zay Flowers but its still early on that front.
Schoen's working the phones. Wouldn't be surprised to see a big trade happen.
I am wondering if Evans in TB will become available as well as Davis (Buff), Jeudy (Den), Hopkins ( AZ, already known trade possibility), Waller TE (LV), Davis/Mins (NYJ), Bateman (Balt), Pittman (Indy) and Ayiuk (SF).
Good list. LV is a team to watch. Over the target on Waller.
Good call Grit!
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I have nothing to add on the FA front but the Giants are very engaged in the trade market for WR's and TE's.
Draft wise the only name I've heard thus far is Zay Flowers but its still early on that front.
Schoen's working the phones. Wouldn't be surprised to see a big trade happen.
I am wondering if Evans in TB will become available as well as Davis (Buff), Jeudy (Den), Hopkins ( AZ, already known trade possibility), Waller TE (LV), Davis/Mins (NYJ), Bateman (Balt), Pittman (Indy) and Ayiuk (SF).
Good list. LV is a team to watch. Over the target on Waller.
GiantGrit called it!