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GoDeep13 : 3/12/2023 2:24 pm
Giants are gonna be big players in the DL/LB market. Been in constant contact with Agent gaging market. Biggest names to watch are Zach Allen formerly of Arizona, David Long Jr., Dalvin Tomlinson, A’Shawn Robinson, Dean Lowry, Demarcus Walker, Azeez Al-Shaair, Anthony Walker, Bobby Okereke and Germaine Pratt.

Giants also looking to add a CB. Inquired on Marcus Peters, Byron Murphy, Greedy Williams (brother of Rodarius), and Jamal Dean.

Giants looking to Resign their IOL (Gates and Feliciano) continue to add young pieces through draft.

Giants looking to add TE depth. Interest in Dan Arnold formerly of Jacksonville.
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GoDeep13  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/12/2023 2:26 pm : link
Giddy up.
Thank you GoDeep  
Blue21 : 3/12/2023 2:26 pm : link
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It seems  
Spider43 : 3/12/2023 2:27 pm : link
We're likely going with WR at #25, judging from those FA rumors.
Nothing on  
Breeze_94 : 3/12/2023 2:27 pm : link
Edwards, Schultz, or Gesicki? Those names have been floated around by the beats quite a bit.

Edmunds and Irv Smith as well, to a lesser extent. Edmunds going to cost too much…
Thanks for the information  
Simms11 : 3/12/2023 2:27 pm : link
GoDeep13......interesting names. Always excited for Free Agency and the draft.
I think it is pretty obvious  
jvm52106 : 3/12/2023 2:27 pm : link
We will be drafting play makers at.the skill positions. I think 1 to 2 WR's and definitely a TE in this strong class.
If we are looking at CB  
Mike in NY : 3/12/2023 2:27 pm : link
I would take a look at Rock Ya-Sin. The area scout for Indy when he was drafted is now with us and I think he would fit Wink’s scheme.
Thanks for the info!  
Sky King : 3/12/2023 2:27 pm : link
Makes sense.
What  
section125 : 3/12/2023 2:28 pm : link
Eric said. Hope they can get some help a reasonable prices.
Great  
AcidTest : 3/12/2023 2:28 pm : link
information. Thanks.
Some good names there  
bigblue12 : 3/12/2023 2:31 pm : link
Love to see Tomlinson back or A’Shawn Robinson.
A lot of rationality in that focus, GoDeep13, thanks  
ColHowPepper : 3/12/2023 2:32 pm : link
A bit dismayed about IOL, esp. re-sign Feliciano, better be a chunk cheaper than '22. Hope Gates, now many months on post-op and recovery, has gained better strength and movement.
I wonder if adding DL will have any impact on LW's future  
sb from NYT Forum : 3/12/2023 2:35 pm : link
...Giants save $12 million but cutting or trading him.
Thanks Go Deep.  
Vin_Cuccs : 3/12/2023 2:35 pm : link
The more I think about this, the happier I am with Schoen's approach to team building. Make the depth of the team a strength. Avoid overpaying for high-end, expensive free-agent talent. Give the coaching staff the personnel to be multiple by adding as many talented players as possible, not just a singular big name.
RE: A lot of rationality in that focus, GoDeep13, thanks  
jvm52106 : 3/12/2023 2:35 pm : link
In comment 16060843 ColHowPepper said:
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A bit dismayed about IOL, esp. re-sign Feliciano, better be a chunk cheaper than '22. Hope Gates, now many months on post-op and recovery, has gained better strength and movement.


Why? We have JE, MM both coming back from injury and we will definitely draft a Center candidate this year.
Thanks!  
US1 Giants : 3/12/2023 2:38 pm : link
I guess this disproves the thread from a week or so ago that there were no Asshats on Schoen's tight ship.
RE: Nothing on  
GoDeep13 : 3/12/2023 2:38 pm : link
In comment 16060831 Breeze_94 said:
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Edwards, Schultz, or Gesicki? Those names have been floated around by the beats quite a bit.

Edmunds and Irv Smith as well, to a lesser extent. Edmunds going to cost too much…
They want to keep the TE $ low. Gesicki and Shultz asking for more than they are willing to spend on a 1a/#2 TE in their system. Arnold looking more cost friendly
Thanks  
George from PA : 3/12/2023 2:41 pm : link
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Could be asshat info from agents.....not necessarily the Giants  
George from PA : 3/12/2023 2:44 pm : link
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Grazie GoDeep13  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/12/2023 2:45 pm : link
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I assume none of the players named in the OP  
Will Shine : 3/12/2023 2:45 pm : link
are in line for big contracts?
Thanks GD13  
Rick in Dallas : 3/12/2023 2:47 pm : link
Should be fun to see Schoen navigate through FA
Text I just received  
GoDeep13 : 3/12/2023 2:48 pm : link
“Wink loves A-gap pressure. There is a guy that should be available soon that Wink will pound the table for and absolutely LOVED in Baltimore.”

Thinking he means Za’Darius Smith
Tremaine Edwards isn’t on that list.  
cosmicj : 3/12/2023 2:48 pm : link
Good.
RE: A lot of rationality in that focus, GoDeep13, thanks  
Milton : 3/12/2023 2:52 pm : link
In comment 16060843 ColHowPepper said:
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A bit dismayed about IOL, esp. re-sign Feliciano, better be a chunk cheaper than '22.
I think Feliciano is someone who Schoen and Daboll favor a lot more than BBI; and that can be typical of OL, where there's a lot more to evaluating value than what can be seen on a TV screen.
I really don’t want Feliciano back  
Rudy5757 : 3/12/2023 2:53 pm : link
I prefer we go after one of the better FA. Gates too, I’d rather get better.
RE: I really don’t want Feliciano back  
fish3321 : 3/12/2023 2:58 pm : link
In comment 16060872 Rudy5757 said:
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I prefer we go after one of the better FA. Gates too, I’d rather get better.


having guys who are cheap and know the system is important. Not every signing is an all pro
RE: Text I just received  
section125 : 3/12/2023 2:58 pm : link
In comment 16060866 GoDeep13 said:
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“Wink loves A-gap pressure. There is a guy that should be available soon that Wink will pound the table for and absolutely LOVED in Baltimore.”

Thinking he means Za’Darius Smith


Live updates from GoDeep13
I’ll take Tomlinson  
Eman11 : 3/12/2023 2:59 pm : link
And Pratt from those names and be very happy
RE: I really don’t want Feliciano back  
FanMan : 3/12/2023 3:00 pm : link
In comment 16060872 Rudy5757 said:
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I prefer we go after one of the better FA. Gates too, I’d rather get better.


Just because you sign them, doesn't mean they make the team. No problem bringing them to Camp to fight for a spot.
RE: I really don’t want Feliciano back  
jvm52106 : 3/12/2023 3:01 pm : link
In comment 16060872 Rudy5757 said:
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I prefer we go after one of the better FA. Gates too, I’d rather get better.


Again, cheaper and probably better option coming from the draft. Solid Centers available this April.

TE makes sense if you follow Buffalo and KC. Yes, Kelce is all world but he was a later round draft choice. Buffalo had Knox a 3rd and then spot duty and specific type of 2nd and 3rd TE's. The Draft is very deep at TE!
RE: I’ll take Tomlinson  
Payasdaddy : 3/12/2023 3:01 pm : link
In comment 16060882 Eman11 said:
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And Pratt from those names and be very happy


Dalvin could get 50% of the snaps in a 3 man rotation
Probably can put LEO at 5T for some too. Maybe. Didn’t he spend some time there before?
RE: RE: I’ll take Tomlinson  
Payasdaddy : 3/12/2023 3:01 pm : link
In comment 16060886 Payasdaddy said:
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In comment 16060882 Eman11 said:


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And Pratt from those names and be very happy



Dalvin could get 50% of the snaps in a 3 man rotation
Probably can put LEO at 5T for some too. Maybe. Didn’t he spend some time there before?


Depends on LEO cap #
RE: RE: A lot of rationality in that focus, GoDeep13, thanks  
ColHowPepper : 3/12/2023 3:02 pm : link
In comment 16060851 jvm52106 said:
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Why? We have JE, MM both coming back from injury and we will definitely draft a Center candidate this year.
hi, jvm, nothing more than I don't think JF is worth what Giants paid for '22. Hope you're right about drafting a C, it has been a long time, too long, 'don't sleep on Jon'
Thanks  
JoeMoney19 : 3/12/2023 3:03 pm : link
For sharing!
RE: Thanks Go Deep.  
BigBlueinDE : 3/12/2023 3:06 pm : link
In comment 16060850 Vin_Cuccs said:
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The more I think about this, the happier I am with Schoen's approach to team building. Make the depth of the team a strength. Avoid overpaying for high-end, expensive free-agent talent. Give the coaching staff the personnel to be multiple by adding as many talented players as possible, not just a singular big name.


+1
RE: RE: I’ll take Tomlinson  
Payasdaddy : 3/12/2023 3:07 pm : link
In comment 16060886 Payasdaddy said:
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In comment 16060882 Eman11 said:


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And Pratt from those names and be very happy



Dalvin could get 50% of the snaps in a 3 man rotation
Probably can put LEO at 5T for some too. Maybe. Didn’t he spend some time there before?


Depends on LEO cap #
I don’t see it with Feliciano either  
mfsd : 3/12/2023 3:12 pm : link
But I do trust this front office/coaching staff more than any in recent memory

I’m also glad this chatter doesn’t revolve around overpaying for second rate or oft-injured WRs. We’ve sort of been there, done that recently. Let’s hit on some draft picks and swing for the fences with WR only when the guy is well worth it
If this info is correct  
dpinzow : 3/12/2023 3:14 pm : link
Then Schoen is going offense heavy in the draft. He wants a ferocious defense to carry the team while the most likely young drafted WRs acclimate to the NFL
I still think we'll  
mittenedman : 3/12/2023 3:19 pm : link
see a huge move at WR.

3 of the top 4 WRs are coming off injury (Shepard, Wandale Robinson and Collin Johnson). And the fact that Johnson's in the top 4 tells you something.

The cupboard is pretty bare, and it's the single biggest improvement the team can make.
Thanks GoDeep13!  
Optimus-NY : 3/12/2023 3:19 pm : link
I want Dalvin Tomlinson back. Never should have let him walk.
RE: I’ll take Tomlinson  
Rjanyg : 3/12/2023 3:22 pm : link
In comment 16060882 Eman11 said:
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And Pratt from those names and be very happy


Same. If not Dalvin then A Shawn will be nice.

Murphy at CB would be solid
RE: If this info is correct  
Milton : 3/12/2023 3:24 pm : link
In comment 16060905 dpinzow said:
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Then Schoen is going offense heavy in the draft. He wants a ferocious defense to carry the team while the most likely young drafted WRs acclimate to the NFL
I have a general philosophy that leans defense in free agency and offense in the draft. Why? Rookie mistakes are more likely to be found on defense than offense.
RE: If we are looking at CB  
bLiTz 2k : 3/12/2023 3:25 pm : link
In comment 16060834 Mike in NY said:
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I would take a look at Rock Ya-Sin. The area scout for Indy when he was drafted is now with us and I think he would fit Wink’s scheme.


He's been bad in the NFL. No thanks.
Bring Dalvin  
Ben in Tampa : 3/12/2023 3:26 pm : link
Home!
RE: Bring Dalvin  
Payasdaddy : 3/12/2023 3:28 pm : link
In comment 16060927 Ben in Tampa said:
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Home!

Isnt Dalvin a CFP?
wouldnt be surprised if he wants to be back near wall st for when career done
thank you godeep, personally love that strategy  
Eric on Li : 3/12/2023 3:28 pm : link
that is shopping the positions with the most choices and value. grabbing several names off those lists would make this team a lot better even if there's not a lot of flash or headlines.
Al-Shaair is a guy I mentioned on Twitter  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/12/2023 3:30 pm : link
Only 25, stuck behind Warner and Greenlaw but always around the ball when he played. Big 2021 season in place of Greenlaw. Likely won't command a top-line deal.

Will have to bid against the Texans (Demeco Ryans) and Tampa, but Giants can offer playoff contender.
Tomlinson looked like  
mittenedman : 3/12/2023 3:31 pm : link
he had plenty of juice left in those Vikings games. He screwed up a few of our running plays.
Tomlinson's getting a bunch of mentions on the net.  
MOOPS : 3/12/2023 3:34 pm : link
Cleveland, SF, Atlanta. Probably gonna be more than a few serious inquiries for his service. Love to have him back though. See what the price is.
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