Giants are gonna be big players in the DL/LB market. Been in constant contact with Agent gaging market. Biggest names to watch are Zach Allen formerly of Arizona, David Long Jr., Dalvin Tomlinson, A’Shawn Robinson, Dean Lowry, Demarcus Walker, Azeez Al-Shaair, Anthony Walker, Bobby Okereke and Germaine Pratt.
Giants also looking to add a CB. Inquired on Marcus Peters, Byron Murphy, Greedy Williams (brother of Rodarius), and Jamal Dean.
Giants looking to Resign their IOL (Gates and Feliciano) continue to add young pieces through draft.
Giants looking to add TE depth. Interest in Dan Arnold formerly of Jacksonville.
I am not expecting a lot in FA ILB* stop gap 1 to 2 years S (love or otherwise) a tier 2 vet at WR or TE.
*Maybe he does something there semi-splashy but it should be a magically contract.
It was a terribly executed plan by Dave but I also do not believe he had the authority to conduct a tear down. For me, I think Mara wanted to put the best team together possible and let Eli finish his contract on good terms. It was a colossal failure but I understood the reasoning.
Onwards we go.
Here's a guy that is really interesting to me...Demarcus Walker. Walker, former Florida State standout, is a 6'4" 280 DE. Things didn't really workout in Denver, just kind of alright there during his 4 years there, really only contributed a little the last two. Then he went to Houston where he didn't really distinguish himself there either.
But then he plays in Tennessee last year, and here's where it gets interesting. He has 7 sacks, 16 QB hits, and 10 TFLs, with 32 total tackles. But he also only had 6 starts, and played just 37% of Tennessee's defensive snaps on the year, just 426 total.
Now, the big ticket DE this offseason in free agency is Javon Hargrave from Philly. He played 712 defensive snaps for the Eagles, had 60 tackles, 11 sacks...and get this...16 QB hits and 10 TFLs...the same as DeMarcus Walker. Wondering if Walker is just starting to unlock something. Walker's 7 sacks on 426 snaps translates to a sack every 60.85 snaps.
That's a really high rate, nearly elite. For example, a lot of DE starters get around 800 snaps...if Walker sustained that rate and got full-time starter reps, that would translate to 13+ sacks. Now, I understand this isn't how football works, and obviously the longer you are on the field the more diminished the returns can be, but still, that's impressive, and it seems to have come out of nowhere.
Struggled with a stutter growing up all the way through college. Has worked on it and just started doing team interviews recently. Says it’s helped him a lot with his confidence. He has a foundation for kids with speech impediments.
Think there is a certain young member on the Giants he could be a good bet for?
who are the much better options?
The FA WR class is pretty weak, so it stands to reason that there wouldn't be a ton of rumored FA activity for a WR. Does anyone want to pay top dollar for Jakobi Meyers or D.J. Chark?
I think the WR help will come via draft picks, either as rookie selections or in trade, because there's nowhere else to find a player who even resembles a WR1 when you squint really hard.
Whoosh.
Gates injury seems to be the type that a player can return from but isn't quite the same until year 2 of the recovery in terms of full strength and explosion.
“We had Feliciano in Buffalo with us, and it’s not just on the field with some of these guys,’’ Schoen said. “Leadership in the locker room and within their position group that you really gotta make sure you don’t let a lot of leadership walk out of the building, and that’s gonna be a concerted effort for some of these guys — backups, starters, whatever it may be, we want to retain some of our leadership.’’
Joe Schoen to prioritize own free agents - ( New Window )
Run defense gave up 145 yards/game. Against division opponents over 160/game. I think DE, OLB and ILB all need attention.
Yes, he would be a DE in a 3-4 system that the Giants currently run. He's a DT in the Eagles' 4-3 system.
Some names I'm watching for Giants as the negotiating window opens: ILBs Germain Pratt, Bobby Okereke, Drue Tranquil; WRs Odell Beckham Jr., Nelson Agholor; TE Irv Smith Jr. and Dan Arnold; DL Hassan Ridgeway, A'Shawn Robinson, Sheldon Rankins
Part of my would love to see 13 back in blue. Part of me says careful what you wish for lol
Some names I'm watching for Giants as the negotiating window opens: ILBs Germain Pratt, Bobby Okereke, Drue Tranquil; WRs Odell Beckham Jr., Nelson Agholor; TE Irv Smith Jr. and Dan Arnold; DL Hassan Ridgeway, A'Shawn Robinson, Sheldon Rankins
Dear God. Please no Agholor.
Some names I'm watching for Giants as the negotiating window opens: ILBs Germain Pratt, Bobby Okereke, Drue Tranquil; WRs Odell Beckham Jr., Nelson Agholor; TE Irv Smith Jr. and Dan Arnold; DL Hassan Ridgeway, A'Shawn Robinson, Sheldon Rankins
So deep threats at WR and move TEs offensively.
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Some names I'm watching for Giants as the negotiating window opens: ILBs Germain Pratt, Bobby Okereke, Drue Tranquil; WRs Odell Beckham Jr., Nelson Agholor; TE Irv Smith Jr. and Dan Arnold; DL Hassan Ridgeway, A'Shawn Robinson, Sheldon Rankins
Dear God. Please no Agholor.
Agreed. Hands as bad as Slayton's.
I would have to give it some serious thought.
I would have to give it some serious thought.
I think I speak for Joe, no. I believe he already said no to that per asshats. Thankfully.
I would have to give it some serious thought.
No. He was drafted at #15 3 years ago and has 9 td's and 0 1000 yd seasons in 3 years. our 2nd rounder is all I'd even think about giving up. If they want a first too bad, move on to someone else.
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I would have to give it some serious thought.
I think I speak for Joe, no. I believe he already said no to that per asshats. Thankfully.
When he said no.. we were drafting in the mid teens.. Now we have the 25th pick.. Maybe that changes the dynamic a little?
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I have nothing to add on the FA front but the Giants are very engaged in the trade market for WR's and TE's.
Draft wise the only name I've heard thus far is Zay Flowers but its still early on that front.
Schoen's working the phones. Wouldn't be surprised to see a big trade happen.
I am wondering if Evans in TB will become available as well as Davis (Buff), Jeudy (Den), Hopkins ( AZ, already known trade possibility), Waller TE (LV), Davis/Mins (NYJ), Bateman (Balt), Pittman (Indy) and Ayiuk (SF).
Good list. LV is a team to watch. Over the target on Waller.
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I have nothing to add on the FA front but the Giants are very engaged in the trade market for WR's and TE's.
Draft wise the only name I've heard thus far is Zay Flowers but its still early on that front.
Schoen's working the phones. Wouldn't be surprised to see a big trade happen.
I am wondering if Evans in TB will become available as well as Davis (Buff), Jeudy (Den), Hopkins ( AZ, already known trade possibility), Waller TE (LV), Davis/Mins (NYJ), Bateman (Balt), Pittman (Indy) and Ayiuk (SF).
Good list. LV is a team to watch. Over the target on Waller.
Appreciate all the info Grit!
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Interesting!
Gotta be revisting talks with Denver with that deal they just gave out. Wonder if it's still Jeudy tho...as someone said on another thread, Sutton could be a more likely option at this point.
A third and 5th would be a steal for Jeudy..
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Jeudy again.
A third and 5th would be a steal for Jeudy..
They were this close last Fall at same terms.
he was clicking with russell wilson down the stretch (post trade deadline) and as their best/cheapest receiver, why would they trade him for anything other than a really strong return?
he had his 3 best games of the year in the last 5 weeks, each obviously after the deadline.
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More important question, which one has better speed and separation skills, as that is what JD said they look for from the WR spot
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I could be wrong. But I think this is just an account that is probably linked with BBI, seen the post and connecting the dots.
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Rumor: Giants are closing in on a trade for WR Jerry Jeudy. Giants 2nd attempt at acquiring the Wideout. #TogetherBlue
Is that a reliable account?