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Shepherd to re-sign with the giants

Knickstape : 3/12/2023 3:14 pm
Jeremy Fowler
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The #Giants are expected to re-sign free agent WR Sterling Shepard to a new deal, per sources. Longtime Giants staple will continue his career in New York.
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Good to hear  
mittenedman : 3/12/2023 3:16 pm : link
but the Giants have a ton of WRs coming off injury. They've got to find a way to get some stability and talent around Jones.
Not sure how  
section125 : 3/12/2023 3:17 pm : link
I feel about that. I love Shep, but how many injuries can he sustain. Maybe with Robinson out, the want a WR familiar with the offense.
Probably Shepard's only choice other than retirement  
dpinzow : 3/12/2023 3:18 pm : link
and I'd guess it's the vet minimum
Surprised. He keeps getting hurt  
OdellBeckhamJr : 3/12/2023 3:18 pm : link
thought the injury in the Dallas game was was it for him. He did say he has a lot of football left in him. Hopefully he can stay healthy.
RE: Not sure how  
Payasdaddy : 3/12/2023 3:18 pm : link
In comment 16060909 section125 said:
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I feel about that. I love Shep, but how many injuries can he sustain. Maybe with Robinson out, the want a WR familiar with the offense.


doubt he will be starter no risk for gmen good vet depth
if body cooperates
Ugh I hate this move  
Rudy5757 : 3/12/2023 3:19 pm : link
The guy hasn’t been healthy in forever. Unless it’s for the Vet minimum I think it’s a bad move. I’m ok with it at the vet minimum but man we need to get away from the perennial injury players.
dont understand this at all  
Knickstape : 3/12/2023 3:22 pm : link
this is sheps last 4 years

2019- 10 games played
2020- 12 games played
2021- 7 games played
2022- 3 games played

hes had an acl and achilles tear
I'm guessing vet. min. and he may not even make it out of TC  
Anakim : 3/12/2023 3:23 pm : link
But okay
I am fine with it.....granted smart and tough....but not dependable  
George from PA : 3/12/2023 3:23 pm : link
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Um, has to be for vet-minimum, right?  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/12/2023 3:23 pm : link
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If at vet min,  
Neckbone1333 : 3/12/2023 3:25 pm : link
Smart move and good for continuity and for any young rookies that might join at WR.
Deal is likely to be dirt cheap  
Metnut : 3/12/2023 3:26 pm : link
and he’s been a locker room leader. A no-brainer to bring him back and let him compete for a job at our worst position.
Maybe Giants know he will be  
jvm52106 : 3/12/2023 3:27 pm : link
A huge WR room guy with lots of young additions..
Not  
AcidTest : 3/12/2023 3:27 pm : link
a fan, even at veteran minimum and with no or little bonus and cap hit if he's cut. It's still a financial commitment, however small, and he takes up a space we could give to someone else. Shepard is never healthy. It's time to move on.
Deal is likely to be dirt cheap  
Metnut : 3/12/2023 3:28 pm : link
and he’s been a locker room leader. A no-brainer to bring him back and let him compete for a job at our worst position.
RE: Deal is likely to be dirt cheap  
Metnut : 3/12/2023 3:28 pm : link
In comment 16060932 Metnut said:
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and he’s been a locker room leader. A no-brainer to bring him back and let him compete for a job at our worst position.


Sorry for the double post!
RE: Ugh I hate this move  
bw in dc : 3/12/2023 3:34 pm : link
In comment 16060916 Rudy5757 said:
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The guy hasn’t been healthy in forever. Unless it’s for the Vet minimum I think it’s a bad move. I’m ok with it at the vet minimum but man we need to get away from the perennial injury players.


This X 100.

A 30-year small WR who can't stay healthy does not add up.
RE: Probably Shepard's only choice other than retirement  
Pepe LePugh : 3/12/2023 3:38 pm : link
In comment 16060910 dpinzow said:
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and I'd guess it's the vet minimum

He’s making the wrong choice in that case.
Has to be vet minimum...  
Matt G : 3/12/2023 3:39 pm : link
Otherwise, a bad move
All you have to do is watch the sights and sounds all year  
nygiants16 : 3/12/2023 3:40 pm : link
to see the value Shep brings even jf he is not on the field, most likely vet contract that gives them a vet presence that will likely be a very young WR group
relax there is no way it isn't a vet minimum deal  
Eric on Li : 3/12/2023 3:40 pm : link
maybe there are some incentives for more but he basically played for minimum last year and tore his acl. there's no way anyone was giving him more than minimum + incentives and no way the nyg were giving him a raise.

he tore his acl earlier in the year than robinson so if can give them a few games as a veteran fill in before robinson gets healthy and while rookies are still getting their legs under them that would be a value add. if he somehow stays healthy he's a cheap richie james replacement for depth.
In  
AcidTest : 3/12/2023 3:40 pm : link
addition to his achilles tear and ACL injury, he's had multiple concussions. He should retire for his own health, and since he wouldn't get an offer from another team, the Giants can effectively force him into retirement by refusing to resign him.
Glad to hear  
gogiants : 3/12/2023 3:40 pm : link
bring him back and let him compete for a spot. I'm sure they will do medicals on all the players and if he is better than what they have I'm all for it.
If Shep can get 10 more catches  
BlackLight : 3/12/2023 3:40 pm : link
he'll move into Top 5 all time in team history.

No problem bringing him back. Not expecting much. Probably starts the year on PUP.
Letting him go should have been the easiest decision of the offseason  
GiantsFan84 : 3/12/2023 3:46 pm : link
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RE: Letting him go should have been the easiest decision of the offseason  
BlackLight : 3/12/2023 3:48 pm : link
In comment 16060954 GiantsFan84 said:
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Kenny Golladay?
Did we sign him to play or coach  
90.Cal : 3/12/2023 3:49 pm : link
I bet it’s a vet minimum. Odell incoming???
RE: In  
Straw Hat : 3/12/2023 3:50 pm : link
In comment 16060947 AcidTest said:
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addition to his achilles tear and ACL injury, he's had multiple concussions. He should retire for his own health, and since he wouldn't get an offer from another team, the Giants can effectively force him into retirement by refusing to resign him.


Who are you to tell another man he should retire from doing something he’s been medically cleared to do? Guy wants to continue doing what he loves. Its his risk to take.
Whats the over / under  
Beer Man : 3/12/2023 3:55 pm : link
that he makes it past the 4th game?
It’s the minimum per Schwartz  
No1MDGiantsFan : 3/12/2023 3:55 pm : link
“ Leadership matters: Giants are bringing back WR Sterling Shepard. It will be a veteran minimum one-year deal.”
Honestly  
eric2425ny : 3/12/2023 3:59 pm : link
When you look at the crappy FA receivers available this isn’t a bad move. They probably want him around to mentor the young receivers they will be drafting early.
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AcidTest : 3/12/2023 4:01 pm : link
In comment 16060962 Straw Hat said:
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In comment 16060947 AcidTest said:


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addition to his achilles tear and ACL injury, he's had multiple concussions. He should retire for his own health, and since he wouldn't get an offer from another team, the Giants can effectively force him into retirement by refusing to resign him.



Who are you to tell another man he should retire from doing something he’s been medically cleared to do? Guy wants to continue doing what he loves. Its his risk to take.


Athletes are told to retire all the time for health reasons. Sometimes they listen. Sometimes they don't. But as athletes they often have no perspective or objectivity on the issue. It's particularly important they be told to retire if they've had multiple concussions.

Something similar happens in every day life when, for example, a child tells a parent they can't drive anymore.

In any event, as I said, I don't Shepard back not only for his own benefit, but also because I don't think it's in the best interest of the Giants.
 
christian : 3/12/2023 4:03 pm : link
This isn't surprising in the least.

This is probably a solid to Shepard to allow him to rehab and receive medical care for his injury at the facility and with their staff.

I'm sure it's a non-guaranteed, minimum deal and way more about doing right be a longtime Giant, rather than expecting much from him.
Probably means Slayton signs elsewhere  
Rick in Dallas : 3/12/2023 4:05 pm : link
Shep is good in the locker room. Hope he can stay healthy but that’s asking a lot
RE: Probably means Slayton signs elsewhere  
Beer Man : 3/12/2023 4:08 pm : link
In comment 16060979 Rick in Dallas said:
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Shep is good in the locker room. Hope he can stay healthy but that’s asking a lot
Rumor on a different thread is that Slayton's asking price is more than the Gints are willing to pay.
RE: …  
AcidTest : 3/12/2023 4:09 pm : link
In comment 16060977 christian said:
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This isn't surprising in the least.

This is probably a solid to Shepard to allow him to rehab and receive medical care for his injury at the facility and with their staff.

I'm sure it's a non-guaranteed, minimum deal and way more about doing right be a longtime Giant, rather than expecting much from him.


Good point. If it's just to allow him to rehab then it's fine, but I hope they're not expecting him to play this season.
Keep in mind how many new bodies the WR room needs  
HammerTime75 : 3/12/2023 4:13 pm : link
Even if he can give you WR5 production this year, that's a big help to the Herculean task that it's going to be to overhaul the roster to improve off of last year. It's hard to get players to agree to play for this price. Worth a shot, super low risk.

Best case? You get enough quality options into the building that he "retires" in camp after completing rehab in the facility.
RE: RE: Probably means Slayton signs elsewhere  
eric2425ny : 3/12/2023 4:16 pm : link
In comment 16060981 Beer Man said:
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In comment 16060979 Rick in Dallas said:


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Shep is good in the locker room. Hope he can stay healthy but that’s asking a lot

Rumor on a different thread is that Slayton's asking price is more than the Gints are willing to pay.


Slayton seems like a good guy, but time to move on. That’s an example of a situation where drafting a player for much less will likely yield the same or even better results.
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christian : 3/12/2023 4:17 pm : link
In comment 16060983 AcidTest said:
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I'm sure it's a non-guaranteed, minimum deal and way more about doing right be a longtime Giant, rather than expecting much from him.

Good point. If it's just to allow him to rehab then it's fine, but I hope they're not expecting him to play this season.


I doubt they expect anything from him. He was the defacto team cheerleader last season, and he's seemingly very respected among the players.

My bet is he's on the PUP list and gets what amounts to a tryout come pre season time.
They need to sign some guys  
David B. : 3/12/2023 4:18 pm : link
who can actually still play.
Not a fan of this move  
ghost718 : 3/12/2023 4:21 pm : link
When the writing is on the wall,don't cross it out and draw a happy face.
If it's for the vet minimum  
Jay on the Island : 3/12/2023 4:25 pm : link
it's ok IMO because Shepard is one of the most popular leaders in the locker room. I would be shocked if the Giants don't take a WR with one of their first two picks. Shepard will be a good mentor for that player even if it is just for camp.

I could see Shepard being cut after camp and joining the coaching staff after the season.
RE: relax there is no way it isn't a vet minimum deal  
Rory : 3/12/2023 4:26 pm : link
In comment 16060946 Eric on Li said:
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maybe there are some incentives for more but he basically played for minimum last year and tore his acl. there's no way anyone was giving him more than minimum + incentives and no way the nyg were giving him a raise.

he tore his acl earlier in the year than robinson so if can give them a few games as a veteran fill in before robinson gets healthy and while rookies are still getting their legs under them that would be a value add. if he somehow stays healthy he's a cheap richie james replacement for depth.


Why can’t everyone be like Eric on this site.

If giants coaches/mngmt see value with this then it’s worth it. Also, NYG needs to build up some leverage going into FA and draft.
The reason the Eagles are consistently at the top of the standings  
GiantBlue : 3/12/2023 4:30 pm : link
is they remove emotion from their roster. If a player exceeds their value chart or is a wounded duck; they are removed and replaced.

The Giants seem to still have this loyalty thing and I wonder if this is Mara's doing.

If Shep is going to be a coach, hire him as a coach. If he is a good cheerleader, hire him as an assistant to the assistant so he is in the building.

But it is big leap to think he has the ability to play at a high level in the NFL with all these injury and concussion events now that he is 30.

Since he hasn’t actually entered his void year yet…  
Big Blue Blogger : 3/12/2023 4:33 pm : link
… is this classified as a re-signing, or as an extension? If it goes into 2024, an extension would spread his $4MM+ dead-money hit.
RE: The reason the Eagles are consistently at the top of the standings  
BlackLight : 3/12/2023 4:35 pm : link
In comment 16061002 GiantBlue said:
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is they remove emotion from their roster. If a player exceeds their value chart or is a wounded duck; they are removed and replaced.

The Giants seem to still have this loyalty thing and I wonder if this is Mara's doing.

If Shep is going to be a coach, hire him as a coach. If he is a good cheerleader, hire him as an assistant to the assistant so he is in the building.

But it is big leap to think he has the ability to play at a high level in the NFL with all these injury and concussion events now that he is 30.


I don't think anyone involved in this decision expect Shepard to contribute at a high level. Pretty much everything they get out of him will be gravy.

But from the sounds of it, he's one of the more well-liked players on the roster. There's value to bringing that guy back on a vet minimum deal. It sends a message to the lockerroom that we aren't going to leave guys by the side of the road if they get injured.
Now I'm convinced the Giants want OBJ  
allstarjim : 3/12/2023 4:41 pm : link
They are good friends, I think this is a recruiting signing.
Schoen and Daboll  
Dave on the UWS : 3/12/2023 4:44 pm : link
have repeatedly mentioned that culture matters. They have to sign a LOT of guys to the vet minimum for training camp. Having him around UNTIL there's a better alternative, is not a bad move.
RE: Ugh I hate this move  
Carson53 : 3/12/2023 4:45 pm : link
In comment 16060916 Rudy5757 said:
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The guy hasn’t been healthy in forever. Unless it’s for the Vet minimum I think it’s a bad move. I’m ok with it at the vet minimum but man we need to get away from the perennial injury players.
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I am with you on this guy, an injury waiting to happen.
It better not be for more than vet. min., that would be very stupid of this new regime. Need details details...
 
christian : 3/12/2023 4:55 pm : link
And before anyone loses their mind, Shepard has a cap charge of 4.245M from amortized bonuses from his previous contract already. Which would have been "dead" money.

So his cap charge on a minimum salary deal will be about 1.165M + the 4.245M.
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