Jeremy Fowler
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The #Giants are expected to re-sign free agent WR Sterling Shepard to a new deal, per sources. Longtime Giants staple will continue his career in New York.
The guy hasn’t been healthy in forever. Unless it’s for the Vet minimum I think it’s a bad move. I’m ok with it at the vet minimum but man we need to get away from the perennial injury players.
a fan, even at veteran minimum and with no or little bonus and cap hit if he's cut. It's still a financial commitment, however small, and he takes up a space we could give to someone else. Shepard is never healthy. It's time to move on.
The guy hasn’t been healthy in forever. Unless it’s for the Vet minimum I think it’s a bad move. I’m ok with it at the vet minimum but man we need to get away from the perennial injury players.
This X 100.
A 30-year small WR who can't stay healthy does not add up.
RE: Probably Shepard's only choice other than retirement
to see the value Shep brings even jf he is not on the field, most likely vet contract that gives them a vet presence that will likely be a very young WR group
maybe there are some incentives for more but he basically played for minimum last year and tore his acl. there's no way anyone was giving him more than minimum + incentives and no way the nyg were giving him a raise.
he tore his acl earlier in the year than robinson so if can give them a few games as a veteran fill in before robinson gets healthy and while rookies are still getting their legs under them that would be a value add. if he somehow stays healthy he's a cheap richie james replacement for depth.
addition to his achilles tear and ACL injury, he's had multiple concussions. He should retire for his own health, and since he wouldn't get an offer from another team, the Giants can effectively force him into retirement by refusing to resign him.
bring him back and let him compete for a spot. I'm sure they will do medicals on all the players and if he is better than what they have I'm all for it.
addition to his achilles tear and ACL injury, he's had multiple concussions. He should retire for his own health, and since he wouldn't get an offer from another team, the Giants can effectively force him into retirement by refusing to resign him.
Who are you to tell another man he should retire from doing something he’s been medically cleared to do? Guy wants to continue doing what he loves. Its his risk to take.
When you look at the crappy FA receivers available this isn’t a bad move. They probably want him around to mentor the young receivers they will be drafting early.
addition to his achilles tear and ACL injury, he's had multiple concussions. He should retire for his own health, and since he wouldn't get an offer from another team, the Giants can effectively force him into retirement by refusing to resign him.
Who are you to tell another man he should retire from doing something he’s been medically cleared to do? Guy wants to continue doing what he loves. Its his risk to take.
Athletes are told to retire all the time for health reasons. Sometimes they listen. Sometimes they don't. But as athletes they often have no perspective or objectivity on the issue. It's particularly important they be told to retire if they've had multiple concussions.
Something similar happens in every day life when, for example, a child tells a parent they can't drive anymore.
In any event, as I said, I don't Shepard back not only for his own benefit, but also because I don't think it's in the best interest of the Giants.
Even if he can give you WR5 production this year, that's a big help to the Herculean task that it's going to be to overhaul the roster to improve off of last year. It's hard to get players to agree to play for this price. Worth a shot, super low risk.
Best case? You get enough quality options into the building that he "retires" in camp after completing rehab in the facility.
Shep is good in the locker room. Hope he can stay healthy but that’s asking a lot
Rumor on a different thread is that Slayton's asking price is more than the Gints are willing to pay.
Slayton seems like a good guy, but time to move on. That’s an example of a situation where drafting a player for much less will likely yield the same or even better results.
it's ok IMO because Shepard is one of the most popular leaders in the locker room. I would be shocked if the Giants don't take a WR with one of their first two picks. Shepard will be a good mentor for that player even if it is just for camp.
I could see Shepard being cut after camp and joining the coaching staff after the season.
RE: relax there is no way it isn't a vet minimum deal
maybe there are some incentives for more but he basically played for minimum last year and tore his acl. there's no way anyone was giving him more than minimum + incentives and no way the nyg were giving him a raise.
he tore his acl earlier in the year than robinson so if can give them a few games as a veteran fill in before robinson gets healthy and while rookies are still getting their legs under them that would be a value add. if he somehow stays healthy he's a cheap richie james replacement for depth.
Why can’t everyone be like Eric on this site.
If giants coaches/mngmt see value with this then it’s worth it. Also, NYG needs to build up some leverage going into FA and draft.
The reason the Eagles are consistently at the top of the standings
is they remove emotion from their roster. If a player exceeds their value chart or is a wounded duck; they are removed and replaced.
The Giants seem to still have this loyalty thing and I wonder if this is Mara's doing.
If Shep is going to be a coach, hire him as a coach. If he is a good cheerleader, hire him as an assistant to the assistant so he is in the building.
But it is big leap to think he has the ability to play at a high level in the NFL with all these injury and concussion events now that he is 30.
I don't think anyone involved in this decision expect Shepard to contribute at a high level. Pretty much everything they get out of him will be gravy.
But from the sounds of it, he's one of the more well-liked players on the roster. There's value to bringing that guy back on a vet minimum deal. It sends a message to the lockerroom that we aren't going to leave guys by the side of the road if they get injured.
have repeatedly mentioned that culture matters. They have to sign a LOT of guys to the vet minimum for training camp. Having him around UNTIL there's a better alternative, is not a bad move.
The guy hasn’t been healthy in forever. Unless it’s for the Vet minimum I think it’s a bad move. I’m ok with it at the vet minimum but man we need to get away from the perennial injury players.
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I am with you on this guy, an injury waiting to happen.
It better not be for more than vet. min., that would be very stupid of this new regime. Need details details...
And before anyone loses their mind, Shepard has a cap charge of 4.245M from amortized bonuses from his previous contract already. Which would have been "dead" money.
So his cap charge on a minimum salary deal will be about 1.165M + the 4.245M.
doubt he will be starter no risk for gmen good vet depth
if body cooperates
2019- 10 games played
2020- 12 games played
2021- 7 games played
2022- 3 games played
hes had an acl and achilles tear
Sorry for the double post!
This X 100.
A 30-year small WR who can't stay healthy does not add up.
He’s making the wrong choice in that case.
he tore his acl earlier in the year than robinson so if can give them a few games as a veteran fill in before robinson gets healthy and while rookies are still getting their legs under them that would be a value add. if he somehow stays healthy he's a cheap richie james replacement for depth.
No problem bringing him back. Not expecting much. Probably starts the year on PUP.
Kenny Golladay?
Who are you to tell another man he should retire from doing something he’s been medically cleared to do? Guy wants to continue doing what he loves. Its his risk to take.
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addition to his achilles tear and ACL injury, he's had multiple concussions. He should retire for his own health, and since he wouldn't get an offer from another team, the Giants can effectively force him into retirement by refusing to resign him.
Who are you to tell another man he should retire from doing something he’s been medically cleared to do? Guy wants to continue doing what he loves. Its his risk to take.
Athletes are told to retire all the time for health reasons. Sometimes they listen. Sometimes they don't. But as athletes they often have no perspective or objectivity on the issue. It's particularly important they be told to retire if they've had multiple concussions.
Something similar happens in every day life when, for example, a child tells a parent they can't drive anymore.
In any event, as I said, I don't Shepard back not only for his own benefit, but also because I don't think it's in the best interest of the Giants.
This is probably a solid to Shepard to allow him to rehab and receive medical care for his injury at the facility and with their staff.
I'm sure it's a non-guaranteed, minimum deal and way more about doing right be a longtime Giant, rather than expecting much from him.
This is probably a solid to Shepard to allow him to rehab and receive medical care for his injury at the facility and with their staff.
I'm sure it's a non-guaranteed, minimum deal and way more about doing right be a longtime Giant, rather than expecting much from him.
Good point. If it's just to allow him to rehab then it's fine, but I hope they're not expecting him to play this season.
Best case? You get enough quality options into the building that he "retires" in camp after completing rehab in the facility.
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Shep is good in the locker room. Hope he can stay healthy but that’s asking a lot
Rumor on a different thread is that Slayton's asking price is more than the Gints are willing to pay.
Slayton seems like a good guy, but time to move on. That’s an example of a situation where drafting a player for much less will likely yield the same or even better results.
I'm sure it's a non-guaranteed, minimum deal and way more about doing right be a longtime Giant, rather than expecting much from him.
Good point. If it's just to allow him to rehab then it's fine, but I hope they're not expecting him to play this season.
I doubt they expect anything from him. He was the defacto team cheerleader last season, and he's seemingly very respected among the players.
My bet is he's on the PUP list and gets what amounts to a tryout come pre season time.
I could see Shepard being cut after camp and joining the coaching staff after the season.
he tore his acl earlier in the year than robinson so if can give them a few games as a veteran fill in before robinson gets healthy and while rookies are still getting their legs under them that would be a value add. if he somehow stays healthy he's a cheap richie james replacement for depth.
Why can’t everyone be like Eric on this site.
If giants coaches/mngmt see value with this then it’s worth it. Also, NYG needs to build up some leverage going into FA and draft.
The Giants seem to still have this loyalty thing and I wonder if this is Mara's doing.
If Shep is going to be a coach, hire him as a coach. If he is a good cheerleader, hire him as an assistant to the assistant so he is in the building.
But it is big leap to think he has the ability to play at a high level in the NFL with all these injury and concussion events now that he is 30.
The Giants seem to still have this loyalty thing and I wonder if this is Mara's doing.
If Shep is going to be a coach, hire him as a coach. If he is a good cheerleader, hire him as an assistant to the assistant so he is in the building.
But it is big leap to think he has the ability to play at a high level in the NFL with all these injury and concussion events now that he is 30.
I don't think anyone involved in this decision expect Shepard to contribute at a high level. Pretty much everything they get out of him will be gravy.
But from the sounds of it, he's one of the more well-liked players on the roster. There's value to bringing that guy back on a vet minimum deal. It sends a message to the lockerroom that we aren't going to leave guys by the side of the road if they get injured.
I am with you on this guy, an injury waiting to happen.
It better not be for more than vet. min., that would be very stupid of this new regime. Need details details...
So his cap charge on a minimum salary deal will be about 1.165M + the 4.245M.