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NFT: CBB Selection Sunday

Anakim : 3/12/2023 6:40 pm
Thoughts? First impressions?
Listen Rutgers has nobody to blame but themselves  
Stu11 : 3/12/2023 6:41 pm : link
They had some awful losses down the stretch including Minnesota but I'm sorry they deserve to be in the field.
I’m shocked that Rutgers didn’t make it  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/12/2023 6:43 pm : link
..
I watched Arizona State lose by 37  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/12/2023 6:46 pm : link
to the 5th place team in the WCC. The game wasn’t even as close as the final score.

Hard to believe any loss by Rutgers could be as bad as that.
On first glance Rutgers and Oklahoma St were snubbed  
dpinzow : 3/12/2023 6:48 pm : link
Rutgers beat Purdue, that alone with the rest of their resume as a Big 10 team should have given them a bid. Lunardi had them as the 65th team in the field, almost in the last 4 byes.

Oklahoma State played in the best conference in the country, the Big 12. They probably deserved a spot over a team like Pittsburgh.

Duke and Texas A&M were underseeded, and I think Duke is on upset watch against Oral Roberts.

UConn is also on upset watch vs. Iona. That game is in Albany and both teams' fans will be well represented
Fuck the committee  
Crazed Dogs : 3/12/2023 6:49 pm : link
There is no way Rutgers should not have made it.. I am so pissed....
Rutgers  
Sammo85 : 3/12/2023 6:51 pm : link
has only themselves to blame. Teams that collapse late in season and become bubble teams tend to lose benefit of doubt on toss ups.
They almost beat Purdue twice  
Crazed Dogs : 3/12/2023 6:54 pm : link
a one seed twice...how could they not see that..incredible
RE: They almost beat Purdue twice  
Sammo85 : 3/12/2023 6:57 pm : link
In comment 16061156 Crazed Dogs said:
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a one seed twice...how could they not see that..incredible


It’s a huge win but Rutgers also had a batch of just terrible losses. Some of that was due to bad luck with injuries/illness affecting rotation during that slide.

Pikiell has program in good spot still for next few seasons. I think they’ll be back in next year.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/12/2023 7:01 pm : link
Cousin is big RU fan & apparently they are killing it in recruiting. They will be there before long.
UConn got the big shaft, no idea why  
UConn4523 : 3/12/2023 7:02 pm : link
not only did they not get a 3 but they got the 4 seed out west in an absolutely stacked bracket. Iona, St Mary’s, Kansas, lol.
Be serious  
Crazed Dogs : 3/12/2023 7:02 pm : link
Think about it... they beat Purdue a one seed and nearly beat them again in the conference tourney and you are gonna tell me they do not belong in the tourney? I will have what you are smoking...their NET of 40
Listen alway something about that 20 win mark  
Carl in CT : 3/12/2023 7:07 pm : link
19-14 is the reason they are not in. Didn’t hit the 20 and have 14 losses!
First round upsets  
Earl the goat : 3/12/2023 7:07 pm : link
VCU
Vermont
Colgate
Drake
College of Charleston
Furman
RE: Be serious  
Sammo85 : 3/12/2023 7:08 pm : link
In comment 16061168 Crazed Dogs said:
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Think about it... they beat Purdue a one seed and nearly beat them again in the conference tourney and you are gonna tell me they do not belong in the tourney? I will have what you are smoking...their NET of 40


They didn’t make it. It is what it is.
Thanks Einstein  
Crazed Dogs : 3/12/2023 7:10 pm : link
I am so enraged by the snub whatever
They also came in 10th  
Carl in CT : 3/12/2023 7:11 pm : link
In their conference. You can only take so many
RE: First round upsets  
dpinzow : 3/12/2023 7:12 pm : link
In comment 16061177 Earl the goat said:
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VCU
Vermont
Colgate
Drake
College of Charleston
Furman


Oral Roberts has a good shot against Duke and Iona has a good shot against UConn
Clemson got the shaft too.  
RDJR : 3/12/2023 7:13 pm : link
Beat NC St. three times this season and NC St. gets an at large bid.
RE: RE: First round upsets  
Earl the goat : 3/12/2023 7:16 pm : link
In comment 16061184 dpinzow said:
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In comment 16061177 Earl the goat said:


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VCU
Vermont
Colgate
Drake
College of Charleston
Furman



Oral Roberts has a good shot against Duke and Iona has a good shot against UConn



Agree on Oral Roberts. Especially with the 7’5 center. But duke is crazy hot with momentum.

No way UCONN loses.
San Diego State dominates the Mountain West  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/12/2023 7:20 pm : link
and gets rewarded with an equally dominant College of Charleston.
Kentucky has a pretty good draw to get to the Elite 8  
dpinzow : 3/12/2023 7:20 pm : link
If Michigan State doesn't get to the Sweet 16 I think Kentucky is in the Elite 8

Providence
Kansas State
Michigan State or Marquette
If I had to guess at the Elite 8 right now  
dpinzow : 3/12/2023 7:24 pm : link
Alabama vs. Baylor
Duke (if they get by Oral Roberts) vs. Kentucky
Indiana vs. Texas
Kansas vs. Gonzaga
RE: Clemson got the shaft too.  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/12/2023 7:27 pm : link
In comment 16061185 RDJR said:
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Beat NC St. three times this season and NC St. gets an at large bid.


I'd really love to know the criteria of NC St over Clemson. Same overall record. Clemson beat them head to head three times, including this week to make it to the conference semifinals and they had a better conference record too.

Makes no sense. 23 wins for Clemson and it isn't good enough.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/12/2023 7:28 pm : link
UNC obviously didn't make the tournament.

Hubert Davis...uh...I don't think he's that good of a coach.
Criteria of UNC over  
Crazed Dogs : 3/12/2023 7:32 pm : link
Clemson is tv ratings
UNC State  
Crazed Dogs : 3/12/2023 7:35 pm : link
on the reference
a Committee guy is on ESPN now and was asked about Rutgers -  
Del Shofner : 3/12/2023 7:39 pm : link
he said Rutgers suffered a key injury in early February and there were enough games after that to see if they were the same team as before that injury, and the Committee concluded they weren't the same team. Don't shoot the messenger - I don't even know who they are referring to - just reporting what the guy said about Rutgers.
How does Kansas get a one seed and Texas a 2 after Texas beat Kansas  
gtt350 : 3/12/2023 7:46 pm : link
twice and won the conference?
Kansas has no unranked losses  
UConn4523 : 3/12/2023 7:49 pm : link
and my guess is the bill self hospitalization has been taken into account.
Last two winners were Big 12 teams  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/12/2023 8:10 pm : link
If Texas can get by A&M (or Penn State), the path is there.

I think the East is the regional that implodes. Purdue is the weakest 1 and Arizona or UCLA should be the 2s in that region. May end up with Duke or Memphis there.
What is so good...  
bw in dc : 3/12/2023 8:24 pm : link
about Michigan State. What the hell did they do better than UNC, Clemson, Rutgers, etc?

And how the hell did the Big Ten tie for the most teams?
RE: RE: First round upsets  
uconngiant : 3/12/2023 8:46 pm : link
In comment 16061184 dpinzow said:
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In comment 16061177 Earl the goat said:


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VCU
Vermont
Colgate
Drake
College of Charleston
Furman



Oral Roberts has a good shot against Duke and Iona has a good shot against UConn


UConn plays it's game it will beat Iona by double digits at least.
the ESPN brackets show ended with predictions and  
Del Shofner : 3/12/2023 9:14 pm : link
UConn got a lot of love. Just about every one of the talking heads predicted Elite 8, some Final 4 and I think one had them going all the way. Haven't really followed CBB close enough to know, but I found it interesting.
RE: RE: First round upsets  
uconngiant : 3/12/2023 9:19 pm : link
In comment 16061184 dpinzow said:
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In comment 16061177 Earl the goat said:


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VCU
Vermont
Colgate
Drake
College of Charleston
Furman



Oral Roberts has a good shot against Duke and Iona has a good shot against UConn


UConn plays it's game it will beat Iona by double digits at least.
Keys to Uconn going deep  
redwhiteandbigblue : 3/12/2023 9:55 pm : link
are Hawkins actually showing up and Sanogo staying out of foul trouble. This team has fallen in love with the 3pt. Shot. When they struggle from the outside they lose. Had Hawkins shown up in the Marquette game, they would have won the Big East and gotten a #3 seed. Their inconsistency makes me struggle thinking they would get past sweet 16.
I was hoping...  
Brown_Hornet : 3/12/2023 11:41 pm : link
...that VCU was going to get a @1st round shot at Duke.

Go Rams!
Rutgers got screwed  
RutgersGiantsFan : 3/13/2023 1:06 am : link
7 wins against the field including one of the best wins of all NCAA tournament teams winning AT #1 seed Purdue. They cite not playing well after the Mawot Mag injury as the main reason for being left out, but if the committee actually watched the Big Ten tournament they would have seen that Rutgers got back to early season form beating Michigan with stifling defense that allowed just one FG in the first 19 min of the second half and playing Purdue super tough losing by 5 thanks to the insertion of freshman Derek Simpson in the lineup.
Idiocy  
CornerStone246+17 : 3/13/2023 1:09 am : link
That they didn't select them for the tourney. Pure idiocy.
RE: First round upsets  
Mike in NY : 3/13/2023 7:05 am : link
In comment 16061177 Earl the goat said:
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VCU
Vermont
Colgate
Drake
College of Charleston
Furman


Even as a Colgate alum I do not think that they have the horses to take down Texas
Extremely bummed that Rutgers missed out  
Bear vs Shark : 3/13/2023 8:29 am : link
That stupid fucking Minnesota game
RE: RE: Clemson got the shaft too.  
Mook80 : 3/13/2023 8:48 am : link
In comment 16061198 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Beat NC St. three times this season and NC St. gets an at large bid.



I'd really love to know the criteria of NC St over Clemson. Same overall record. Clemson beat them head to head three times, including this week to make it to the conference semifinals and they had a better conference record too.

Makes no sense. 23 wins for Clemson and it isn't good enough.


I dont agree with it but the reason is their non-conference schedule. I forget the exact stat but Lunardi said it over the weekend. The committee has never put in an at large team with a non conference schedule as weak as Clemson's was. He kept saying all weekend they were going to be out because of that precedent and he was right
RE: Criteria of UNC over  
Mook80 : 3/13/2023 8:50 am : link
In comment 16061204 Crazed Dogs said:
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Clemson is tv ratings


That's asinine. NC State doesn't move the needle at all ratings wise. Clemson didn't make it because of their non-conference schedule. That's it. No one needs to guess or in this case make up reasons, we know why.
Not interested  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 3/13/2023 8:50 am : link
after Michigan got hosed.
RE: RE: First round upsets  
Costy16 : 3/13/2023 9:11 am : link
In comment 16061411 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 16061177 Earl the goat said:


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VCU
Vermont
Colgate
Drake
College of Charleston
Furman



Even as a Colgate alum I do not think that they have the horses to take down Texas


Furman and C of C are good picks. Virginia's style of play makes them ripe for another early round upset. Furman is a good team.
RE: Not interested  
Costy16 : 3/13/2023 9:14 am : link
In comment 16061466 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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after Michigan got hosed.


How did Michigan get hosed? They lost to Rutgers in the opening game of the B10 Tourney and finished 17-15 this year....
Michigan isn’t a good team and has way  
UConn4523 : 3/13/2023 9:18 am : link
too many losses. They aren’t even a 1 seed in the NIT.
RE: RE: RE: First round upsets  
Greg from LI : 3/13/2023 10:17 am : link
In comment 16061487 Costy16 said:
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Furman and C of C are good picks. Virginia's style of play makes them ripe for another early round upset. Furman is a good team.


blah blah blah blah blah

Furman's not a particularly good 3pt shooting team. Their offense is based on shooting an insanely high percentage on two point shots - #1 in the country, actually. That isn't going to happen against the Hoos. They also don't have a defender with the length to stop Jayden Gardner. Gardner was on a serious roll before the Duke game. Duke's huge height advantage was a big problem for him, but there's only one guy over 6'7" in Furman's rotation, and he's a stringbean type who will be giving up 40 pounds to Gardner.

Anything can happen, but I'm not particularly worried about Furman.
anyway, regarding the snubs  
Greg from LI : 3/13/2023 10:24 am : link
One thing that has become crystal clear in recent years - if you're going to play a really weak nonconference schedule, it's going to be held against you. Look at Iowa, who got in, and compare to Rutgers, who didn't. Their resumes are nearly identical, except for one thing: noncon schedule strength. Iowa played 5 Q1/2 teams out of conference, Rutgers only played one.
RE: On first glance Rutgers and Oklahoma St were snubbed  
Section331 : 3/13/2023 11:52 am : link
In comment 16061145 dpinzow said:
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Rutgers beat Purdue, that alone with the rest of their resume as a Big 10 team should have given them a bid. Lunardi had them as the 65th team in the field, almost in the last 4 byes.

Oklahoma State played in the best conference in the country, the Big 12. They probably deserved a spot over a team like Pittsburgh.

Duke and Texas A&M were underseeded, and I think Duke is on upset watch against Oral Roberts.

UConn is also on upset watch vs. Iona. That game is in Albany and both teams' fans will be well represented


Oral Roberts is legit good. I think they and VCU could make runs.
Duke  
Costy16 : 3/13/2023 12:23 pm : link
A month ago I would have thought their chances to win the ACC Tournament were slim to none. Since they lost to Miami and the game after where the refs made the incorrect ruling at the end of the game vs UVA, Scheyer has done a fantastic job with that team the last six regular season games and the ACCT. Their defense has improved dramatically from the beginning of ACC play. Playing their best basketball right now.
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