Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
Giants have agreed to terms with DT Rakeem Nunez-Roches, source confirms. A three-year deal, I'm told, but hearing an out after two. Value signing. Looking for upgrade to Justin Ellis
Doubt it was for the vet min, but this is not a player I would sign to a contract that could potentially cancel out a loss in the compensatory pick formula
like a decent depth signing. Basically filling Nick Williams' spot. Looks like between him, Davidson, Anderson and Butler we have rotation guys. Still need to find that third guy to start with Dex and Leo
like a decent depth signing. Basically filling Nick Williams' spot. Looks like between him, Davidson, Anderson and Butler we have rotation guys. Still need to find that third guy to start with Dex and Leo
Jon Ledyard
@LedyardNFLDraft
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9m
#Giants fans, Nacho is huge trash talker, popular in locker room. Tough as nails. Good vs run, non factor against the pass. Good depth signing
but Tampa has been one of the leagues best at stopping the run. Interesting that he is just over 300 lbs.
Still think the big get is the DE. This may still come in FA or in the draft with a premium pick. Campbell and draft pick would be a nice get for that third starting DL.
Jon Ledyard
@LedyardNFLDraft
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#Giants fans, Nacho is huge trash talker, popular in locker room. Tough as nails. Good vs run, non factor against the pass. Good depth signing
hopefully he'll be better than Shelton and Ellis was in that rotational role. If he doesn't get planted by Kelce with one arm, that's already an upgrade. Still need to get better at LB to keep fixing a glaring weakness against the run.
What are the difference in skills required for stopping the run versus pass blocking/rushing?
Stopping the run: be a fat f***, get in the way.
Pass blocking: have long arms, wave them around.
Seriously, I'd like to be enlightened on this subject.
What are the difference in skills required for stopping the run versus pass blocking/rushing?
Stopping the run: be a fat f***, get in the way.
Pass blocking: have long arms, wave them around.
Seriously, I'd like to be enlightened on this subject.
@LedyardNFLDraft
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#Giants fans, Nacho is huge trash talker, popular in locker room. Tough as nails. Good vs run, non factor against the pass. Good depth signing twitter.com/tompelissero/s…
Jon Ledyard
@LedyardNFLDraft
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9m
#Giants fans, Nacho is huge trash talker, popular in locker room. Tough as nails. Good vs run, non factor against the pass. Good depth signing
Now that Gates is gone he can assume the role of camp fight instigator
but Tampa has been one of the leagues best at stopping the run. Interesting that he is just over 300 lbs.
Still think the big get is the DE. This may still come in FA or in the draft with a premium pick. Campbell and draft pick would be a nice get for that third starting DL.
I have no idea what role Nunez-Roches played in the Tampa run D, but I do know that Vita Vea is the reason the Tampa run D has been stingy. He is completely unblockable.
And then add in the extra ingredients with White and David behind him.
I have no idea what role Nunez-Roches played in the Tampa run D, but I do know that Vita Vea is the reason the Tampa run D has been stingy. He is completely unblockable.
And then add in the extra ingredients with White and David behind him.
If only the Giants had a dominant DL for him to play next to.
but Tampa has been one of the leagues best at stopping the run. Interesting that he is just over 300 lbs.
Still think the big get is the DE. This may still come in FA or in the draft with a premium pick. Campbell and draft pick would be a nice get for that third starting DL.
I have no idea what role Nunez-Roches played in the Tampa run D, but I do know that Vita Vea is the reason the Tampa run D has been stingy. He is completely unblockable.
And then add in the extra ingredients with White and David behind him.
We got gashed every time Dex was off the field, and we cant have him on the field as much as we did last year either. This seems like someone who knows what he is doing and can hold his own in run defense.
Every position we pick up is probably going to be ones that we still look the draft but some of them are going to be on day three. Don’t want to be forced to draft higher than necessary and need to give time for rookies to develop. This is the kind of guy you need to hold the fort.
What are the difference in skills required for stopping the run versus pass blocking/rushing?
Stopping the run: be a fat f***, get in the way.
Pass blocking: have long arms, wave them around.
Seriously, I'd like to be enlightened on this subject.
I don't know a lot about him, but Lord knows we need depth @ DT. I don't think it's sustainable for Leo & Dex to log as many snaps as they did last season.
play next to Dex some. He penetrates decently, a better version of N. Williams. His contract would indicate they see him as a rotational piece at least.
Adam Caplan
@caplannfl
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7m
Nunez-Roches agreed to a 3-year deal worth $12m with $7.5m gtd.
Nothing outrageous.
It’s a pretty good deal for a depth guy. Shows he’s valued much more than a vet min guy like Ellis was. Based on that number, they see him as a guy who will play ~30% of snaps.
I’d rule out Zach Allen, who some are still hoping for. Probably add another DL in draft and roll with Dex, Leo, RNR, Davidson, Rook, and possibly Anderson/Butler
would be hard for him to not upgrade ellis but they paid him better
than id have guessed. hopefully a find but historically we have havent had great luck with these types.
the bucs were paying him somewhat comparably and he was a known quantity for them, but i think i'd have preferred to spend this $ plus whatever feliciano gets on bringing back gates.
when he commented that they don't have to look at just minimum guys. Someone who costs roughly 2.5-3 million a year he said "we can afford that!" as we see here.
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Cardinals’ DE Zach Allen reached agreement on a three-year, $45.75 million deal that includes $32.5 million guaranteed at signing, per source. Allen is reunited with Denver DC Vance Joseph.
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Cardinals’ DE Zach Allen reached agreement on a three-year, $45.75 million deal that includes $32.5 million guaranteed at signing, per source. Allen is reunited with Denver DC Vance Joseph.
And that’s why we were not interested. Unless you are like a player or two away from a SB, the good GM’s will do what Schoen did today. Sign a player like Okereke, who is young and ascending to what will look like a bargain deal in a few years if he continues to develop and then sign low and mid level guys like Nacho to fill gaps while you wait for the drafted players to develop.
Adam Caplan
@caplannfl
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Nunez-Roches agreed to a 3-year deal worth $12m with $7.5m gtd.
This seems like a lot, no?
Please tell me that you are being sarcastic. Seems like a decent price for a good rotational d-lineman
Since dexter gonna get 4 yrs 90 million. Nah. It’s what you pay someone who u think can get some PT. And not have a big drop off. Probably Austin Johnson level, which we misssed. If we are lucky, bj hill.
I hope this signing doesn’t diminish the chances of getting Calais Campbell.
Hoping a guy like Roches can do his thing and spell LW/DL. He was fine in this role for Tampa.
Good? Bad? Thoughts?
@art_stapleton
Giants have agreed to terms with DT Rakeem Nunez-Roches, source confirms. A three-year deal, I'm told, but hearing an out after two. Value signing. Looking for upgrade to Justin Ellis
A DT who can fog a mirror is pretty much a depth upgrade for us over last season
Doubt it was for the vet min, but this is not a player I would sign to a contract that could potentially cancel out a loss in the compensatory pick formula
Hope it’s Dalvin
Always liked his game, nice DL depth/rotational signing.
@LedyardNFLDraft
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#Giants fans, Nacho is huge trash talker, popular in locker room. Tough as nails. Good vs run, non factor against the pass. Good depth signing
Always liked his game, nice DL depth/rotational signing.
And boy do we need that
Always liked his game, nice DL depth/rotational signing.
My recollection of watching play with Bucs this year in few games lines up with it. Seemed disruptive and stout at point of attack in run situations.
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Good? Bad? Thoughts?
I like him. He played well when called upon. That is a good signing hor us and lessens some of DL's playing time load.
Still think the big get is the DE. This may still come in FA or in the draft with a premium pick. Campbell and draft pick would be a nice get for that third starting DL.
@LedyardNFLDraft
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#Giants fans, Nacho is huge trash talker, popular in locker room. Tough as nails. Good vs run, non factor against the pass. Good depth signing
But he's still been a capable lineman for a couple years now. Ellis is past whatever prime he was in.
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Stopping the run: be a fat f***, get in the way.
Pass blocking: have long arms, wave them around.
Seriously, I'd like to be enlightened on this subject.
I heard he can kick a hole in the center, sack the QB, and then jet.
ability to stop the run is most important pass rush is LEO and Dex
I do know who he is
Stopping the run: be a fat f***, get in the way.
Pass blocking: have long arms, wave them around.
Seriously, I'd like to be enlightened on this subject.
technique, mindset, physical attributes.
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#Giants fans, Nacho is huge trash talker, popular in locker room. Tough as nails. Good vs run, non factor against the pass. Good depth signing twitter.com/tompelissero/s…
I am happy the FA period is a yawner.....the only signing I want that will break bank is for Big Dex
@LedyardNFLDraft
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#Giants fans, Nacho is huge trash talker, popular in locker room. Tough as nails. Good vs run, non factor against the pass. Good depth signing
Now that Gates is gone he can assume the role of camp fight instigator
Still think the big get is the DE. This may still come in FA or in the draft with a premium pick. Campbell and draft pick would be a nice get for that third starting DL.
I have no idea what role Nunez-Roches played in the Tampa run D, but I do know that Vita Vea is the reason the Tampa run D has been stingy. He is completely unblockable.
And then add in the extra ingredients with White and David behind him.
I have no idea what role Nunez-Roches played in the Tampa run D, but I do know that Vita Vea is the reason the Tampa run D has been stingy. He is completely unblockable.
And then add in the extra ingredients with White and David behind him.
If only the Giants had a dominant DL for him to play next to.
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but Tampa has been one of the leagues best at stopping the run. Interesting that he is just over 300 lbs.
Still think the big get is the DE. This may still come in FA or in the draft with a premium pick. Campbell and draft pick would be a nice get for that third starting DL.
I have no idea what role Nunez-Roches played in the Tampa run D, but I do know that Vita Vea is the reason the Tampa run D has been stingy. He is completely unblockable.
And then add in the extra ingredients with White and David behind him.
Relentless
Excellent work. Thread winner.
lol
Nice! Don't think he'll get #56 with the Giants, though (-:
Probably for AAV purposes. Supposedly last year is easy to walk away from.
Every position we pick up is probably going to be ones that we still look the draft but some of them are going to be on day three. Don’t want to be forced to draft higher than necessary and need to give time for rookies to develop. This is the kind of guy you need to hold the fort.
YEP better than jelly (who was bad) and t williams too (was was so so at best)
It's comments like this that shows how much fans do not understand NFL contracts in the slightest.
Nice
Stopping the run: be a fat f***, get in the way.
Pass blocking: have long arms, wave them around.
Seriously, I'd like to be enlightened on this subject.
I think you've got it
@caplannfl
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Nunez-Roches agreed to a 3-year deal worth $12m with $7.5m gtd.
@caplannfl
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7m
Nunez-Roches agreed to a 3-year deal worth $12m with $7.5m gtd.
This seems like a lot, no?
@caplannfl
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7m
Nunez-Roches agreed to a 3-year deal worth $12m with $7.5m gtd.
Nothing outrageous.
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Adam Caplan
@caplannfl
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7m
Nunez-Roches agreed to a 3-year deal worth $12m with $7.5m gtd.
Nothing outrageous.
It’s a pretty good deal for a depth guy. Shows he’s valued much more than a vet min guy like Ellis was. Based on that number, they see him as a guy who will play ~30% of snaps.
I’d rule out Zach Allen, who some are still hoping for. Probably add another DL in draft and roll with Dex, Leo, RNR, Davidson, Rook, and possibly Anderson/Butler
the bucs were paying him somewhat comparably and he was a known quantity for them, but i think i'd have preferred to spend this $ plus whatever feliciano gets on bringing back gates.
I wonder if he has been to Wish Willy's on Caye Caulker...
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Former Cardinals’ DE Zach Allen reached agreement on a three-year, $45.75 million deal that includes $32.5 million guaranteed at signing, per source. Allen is reunited with Denver DC Vance Joseph.
Former Cardinals’ DE Zach Allen reached agreement on a three-year, $45.75 million deal that includes $32.5 million guaranteed at signing, per source. Allen is reunited with Denver DC Vance Joseph.
And that’s why we were not interested. Unless you are like a player or two away from a SB, the good GM’s will do what Schoen did today. Sign a player like Okereke, who is young and ascending to what will look like a bargain deal in a few years if he continues to develop and then sign low and mid level guys like Nacho to fill gaps while you wait for the drafted players to develop.
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Adam Caplan
@caplannfl
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7m
Nunez-Roches agreed to a 3-year deal worth $12m with $7.5m gtd.
This seems like a lot, no?
Please tell me that you are being sarcastic. Seems like a decent price for a good rotational d-lineman
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Adam Caplan
@caplannfl
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Nunez-Roches agreed to a 3-year deal worth $12m with $7.5m gtd.
This seems like a lot, no?
Please tell me that you are being sarcastic. Seems like a decent price for a good rotational d-lineman
Since dexter gonna get 4 yrs 90 million. Nah. It’s what you pay someone who u think can get some PT. And not have a big drop off. Probably Austin Johnson level, which we misssed. If we are lucky, bj hill.
He also seems to be good at locating the ball.