NGT- the Aaron Rodgers saga.

I’m not an AR fan, but given how he was treated by Favre (who I really didn’t care for as a qb) I’ve extremely disappointed in AR. Especially the way he treated Love, and now toying with the temas as he decides what he wants to do. And it’s not so much the impact to the teams but the impact to other free agents that can be hanging in the balance until he makes his decision.

like him because he was different.

This whole ordeal makes me realize he is an attention whore and "love me some me" guy.

Rodgers could take them all the way OR he could torpedo the locker room and cost the Saleh and Douglas their jobs.

It's a coin flip to me which happens.

For my money, Rogers, while a bonafide first-ballot hall of famer, has failed to bring really talented teams to the Super Bowl too many times.

Just yesterday I was going through the Packer's season records. Rogers had a 15-1 team, three 13-3 teams, and a bunch of teams with more than 10 wins. And in all of those instances, he only once took his club to the Big Show.

The Jets fans, as long-suffering as they are, are going to be disappointed.

In comment 16062913 Ben in Tampa said:

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Rodgers could take them all the way OR he could torpedo the locker room and cost the Saleh and Douglas their jobs. It's a coin flip to me which happens.

You really think so? What is the other choice, sign Brissett? Draft another QB after Zach Wilson? I think there's a ton of risk both ways. They are built to win now, do they go journeyman? I would hate to coach Rodgers, but I think I would try to win the big one with him. A couple of recent markers with Tampa Bay and LA bringing in vet QBs to win the big one.

In comment 16062913 Ben in Tampa said:

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Rodgers could take them all the way OR he could torpedo the locker room and cost the Saleh and Douglas their jobs. It's a coin flip to me which happens.

Or it just won’t work and it wouldn’t be that dramatic. Saleh and Douglas keep getting QB wrong so their jobs should be on the line soon anyway. Rodgers is a massive upgrade but not worth the cap hit. If they do this deal and it doesn’t work it’s on them.

Salah and possibly Douglas' job is on the line. They need to make the playoffs or they are out of a job. Jets are trying to hot shot for a short term win, like the Bucs did with Brady and Rams did with Stafford (though Stafford has/had more years to go). It's also typical Woody Johnson going for the splashy move after the Giants made the playoffs and he hates losing the headlines to them (see the Tebow trade in 2012 after the Giants won the Super Bowl).

This is a 2 years tops play. But for the Jets, unlike the Bucs and Rams, the AFC is stacked. Rodgers probably puts them on par with the 2nd level contenders in the AFC (Miami, Baltimore, Jax), maybe slightly above. But are they ahead of Buffalo, Cincy or KC? I don't think so.

Realistically, I think this move would put them into the 2nd round of the playoffs and then get bounced, which has been Rodgers' MO recently of post season failure playing on more talented Packers teams than the Jets currently have.

This feels like another Boomer Esiason and Brett Favre deal for a big name QB who is still good but past his prime.

And this isn't Green Bay where the fans are all cordial and defferential to him. If he struggles in a midseason game against Miami or something and he tells the fans to screw off during his Pat McAfee interview, the Jets faithful will turn on him.

but stop fucking them around. GB wants to move on, no other team is interested, so retire or sign..

of Rodgers. I wish he had stayed in his "darkness retreat."

the music has stopped. there are no QBs left. they're left holding the bag and without a seat in the game of NFL musical chairs - unless they bring AR aboard.

they know it, AR knows it, and the Packers know it, too. that's why they are (reportedly) "only" looking for one 1st for AR, as opposed to several. they know it's either retire or become a Jet for AR, and they want some value out of this, too.

if you're the Jets, a 50/50 roll of the dice that equates to Super Bowl contenders / massive Favre-esque failure - you take that bet all day long. you might not be a contender again for another 10 years, so you maximize whatever kind of window you have and you hope AR drinks the kool-aid. and that move seems much less risky in an environment where Deshaun Watson is fully-guaranteed and one-year wonders are getting $30-40m per season. AR is a HOFer and has some tread left on his tires. he makes the Jets an instant and formidable contender.

Now I’m historically biased because of some experience with the Jets and their insufferable fanbase so this is also wishful thinking.

On paper they are talented, however last year 2 of their wins were against Cleveland which was a gift and they should have lost to Pittsburgh. The end of the season their coach and team blew many opportunities. Perhaps they are overrated and still need to face a tough AFC conference.

They knock us calling us jealous Giants fans, that team can’t lose enough.

I would love Rodgers to decide to retire and leak something unflattering about the organization that turned him off.

“Yeah it’s New York but it’s not the Giants” would be a dream quote. Rodgers going to the Jets, and the way that fanbase would be planning a parade, would be a runner up to how insufferable it would be to win a championship.

Jealous Giants fans? We just made the playoffs with a roster of practice squad players, we have a great coach and so far a capable GM who is demonstrating to be a great hire. “Joe Douglas nailed the draft”. Yeah no crap! Losing seasons afford you top picks and you had 90 draft picks last year.

I’m so sick of that team.

IMO will play at most 2 years and more likely one if any.
He doesnt get a SB with the jets, I dont see it..so what is the point?

In comment 16062967 mpinmaine said:

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IMO will play at most 2 years and more likely one if any. He doesnt get a SB with the jets, I dont see it..so what is the point?

1. He’s owed a ton of money and 2. The Jets actually have a good roster and if Rodgers plays well they are a playoff team for certain and then anything can happen.

If I’m a Jets fan I want this to happen, although I’d be cautious on the trade package itself. Whos the last Jets QB that was as talented as an even 40 year old Rodgers?

then I would have to be asking myself where's Rodger's head at? You can't be signing a guy who's only half in. If Rodgers isn't sure about coming to New York, the it's very unlikely to work.
I asked on another thread (and got zero responses), would it really be so bad to sign Baker Mayfield? Jets have a better roster than Tampa right now.

You’d be a 7/8 win team with mayfield and will have to deal with all his bills hit too. Mayfield is a great backup or low end starter. Adding him just stunts your growth, better of trading up for a QB and trying that again IMO.

if you replace "Jets" with "Giants".

BBI has a hard time waiting for anything.
Watching all of these FA signings while you sit an wait would certainly kill the hamster.

He will

It will be a constant circus with the media, especially if the Jets don’t perform up to expectations. It Will certainly be entertaining.

Spend the #2 pick on an awful QB. Give up on him after 2 seasons. Then cover your mistake by spending $50M and picks on a Hall of Famer.
Florham Park is the land of second chances.

of the first order. I hope he signs with the Jets because the media will eat him alive.

In comment 16062908 BigBlue7 said:

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like him because he was different. This whole ordeal makes me realize he is an attention whore and "love me some me" guy.

He's surely looking to do something "dramatic" for the attention. Jets deserve him, although there's no way in hell he wants to play for that 🤡 org.

40 year old Hippie pockets another 100M while his play rapidly declines from Dumbass Jet GM that already gave Zach Wilson 38M. Jets will still suck but in a different way. Saleh is over his head, OL still sucks, and Jets go 7-10 again.

In comment 16062922 Matt in SGS said:
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This is a 2 years tops play. But for the Jets, unlike the Bucs and Rams, the AFC is stacked. Rodgers probably puts them on par with the 2nd level contenders in the AFC (Miami, Baltimore, Jax), maybe slightly above. But are they ahead of Buffalo, Cincy or KC? I don't think so.

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Jets with Rogers would be on the level with the Chargers. They can fight it out in the playoffs to determine who is the greater playoff choker.

i think the jets would have been better off going big for lamar.

but if the Jets don't go all the way with him on board for the short stretch he will be there for, this will be a total bust for them. So they are setting themselves up for feast or failure. Flip the coin, 'cause it could go either way, but one thing I highly doubt is whether Arod has the personality that suits the NY lights.

And the JEST are second fiddle in NY, that won't play well with his ego.... Bust!

only to then basically turn into him unlikeability and all.

i think packers similarly making a good decision to move on and get whatever they can get.

The organization.

For the Jet fans, I understand the consternation.

They already lived through this once with Favre and him basically saying "well I got no choice but to go to the Jets". Now it was of course, fruitful for the first 11 games, but it went south quickly and there is probably no Jet fan who has a nice thing to say about Favre in 2023.

For the Coach? Its def a huge gamble.

If they win with Rodgers, its going to be all about Rodgers, which would be ok with Saleh for sure. Winning is winning and its more fun than trying to spin why whatever QB is starting that week deserves it.

But if they lose with Rodgers, sure Rodgers will be tarred and feathered by the fans but he will still be Aaron Rodgers and when he retires he will get a hero's welcome when he comes back to Lambeau and be celebrated when he gets into the HoF.

But Saleh? He will be fired for sure and since he is still pretty young and not as abrasive as Mangini was, I'm sure he still find opportunities. He may have to wait awhile for a HC chance again, but he would def end up on a defensive staff somewhere. However, he would no longer be the head coach of a team that he helped build a very talented roster overall for.



Its inevitable that Rodgers will eventually make his choice to come here, its probably already done because I don't even see Woody accepting the idea that his team will need to wait on him during FA. Plus its great national attention for the Jets and we know Woody loves the media attention.

As far as Rodgers the person goes, I know most of the people who say "I love how he annoys the right people" have a certain agenda. But people need to remember he was a pretty popular, maybe not "beloved", figure in the country before the vaccine stuff went down and he tripled down on becoming space brained type personality.

Here's an article from Apr 21 (link below), just months prior to the whole controversy, where his guest host run on Jeopardy was being praised by everyone. The guy wasn't treated unfairly by people his entire career, I remember the court of public opinion being on his side when the whole situation with Greg Jennings happened.

He happened to dip his toe (insert obligatory pic of him picking at his foot on McAfee show) into what is/was a polarizing topic and he thus polarized opinion on him. There's hypocrisy on both sides here because I'm sure if he said he supported vaccines, the people who love him now would say he needs to shut up and throw the ball. But since he said the opposite, the other side doesn't like him being vocal.

I personally always found him to be offputting with his body language. When Rodgers is winning, he's the coolest and smoothest guy on the field.

But when things aren't going his way? Watch out, you're gonna get pouty face Rodgers with shoulders slumped. Go back and watch the 2011 Divisional Game. Go and watch the playoff games vs the Niners. That is the Rodgers that if Jet fans are forced to see, will drive them and the media nuts. No one cares about the other stuff.

Unless of course, he starts to bring his complaints about the local media and the fans to McAfee's show.

I'm ready to watch the Rodgers Show in Jet green for sure.



Aaron Rodgers ‘Jeopardy’ Hosting Reviews: Twitter Approves - ( New Window )

In comment 16063185 Eric on Li said:

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i think the jets would have been better off going big for lamar.

There are real questions about Lamar's health at this point. For a QB that depends on his legs, he's gotten banged up a lot...and we don't know how much tread is on those tires. Can he make the transition to a drop back QB, and is he worth the contract if he can't dominate running? Don't forget how quickly Cam Newton fell off the curve after a few great years.

I think the uber plan for the Jets is to bring in Rodgers to righten the ship (get them into the playoffs), and help mentor Zack Wilson to take over after a year or two. IMO, Douglas is still committed to Wilson as a starter, but is aware there's no way he can start next year.

If Rodgers does stiff the Jets, then I think the only thing left is to try and package their #1 with players and other draft choices to move up to get one of the QB's in this draft. That would buy time for Saleh/Douglas.

he’d go. But adding Lazard, a familiar player, to that O and team, I now doubt he turns it down. His 1-2 year window there is definitely better than in GB.
The AFC-E is going to be an internal slugfest like the NFC-E is.

that guy is a lost cause most likely. Despite what Salah says I bet they look to trade him for whatever they can get.

He plays for the Jets for two years. They don’t win the S.B. You expect that they will now be drafting in the md to late 20th pick. You don’t usually find a franchise QB that way.

In comment 16063235 JohnF said:

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In comment 16063185 Eric on Li said: Quote: i think the jets would have been better off going big for lamar. There are real questions about Lamar's health at this point. For a QB that depends on his legs, he's gotten banged up a lot...and we don't know how much tread is on those tires. Can he make the transition to a drop back QB, and is he worth the contract if he can't dominate running? Don't forget how quickly Cam Newton fell off the curve after a few great years. I think the uber plan for the Jets is to bring in Rodgers to righten the ship (get them into the playoffs), and help mentor Zack Wilson to take over after a year or two. IMO, Douglas is still committed to Wilson as a starter, but is aware there's no way he can start next year. If Rodgers does stiff the Jets, then I think the only thing left is to try and package their #1 with players and other draft choices to move up to get one of the QB's in this draft. That would buy time for Saleh/Douglas.

lol if Douglas is doing this to "fix" his Milf Hunter complete ass blunder. Which he likely is.

If he can still play well all this nonsense talk about locker rooms and torpedos and “ny media and fans eating him alive” is pure nonsense. We take ourselves way too seriously in this town. No one is eating shit unless we’re turning into cannibals.

If he comes here and sucks and the team sucks? It will get ugly. Welcome to pro sports in any town.

“ Aaron Rodgers has provided the NY Jets with a wish-list of free agents he would like them to target and acquire, per sources.
It includes Randall Cobb, Allen Lazard, Marcedes Lewis and….Odell Beckham Jr.”

In comment 16063407 No1MDGiantsFan said:

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“ Aaron Rodgers has provided the NY Jets with a wish-list of free agents he would like them to target and acquire, per sources. It includes Randall Cobb, Allen Lazard, Marcedes Lewis and….Odell Beckham Jr.”

And a pony...and one of those Ninja Creami ice cream makers...and two hard-boiled sggs...HONK...and two more hard-boiled eggs.

Dianna Russini - stop reporting.

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If we can't get him on the Giants and we wanted to keep him off the Cowboys.

In comment 16063426 Drewcon40 said:

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Dianna Russini - stop reporting.

Always making stuff up, its either something obvious, somethign already reported or soemthing with an out where she can say well this changed

Denver gave Russ an office. LOL.

In comment 16062943 The Jake said:

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the music has stopped. there are no QBs left. they're left holding the bag and without a seat in the game of NFL musical chairs - unless they bring AR aboard. they know it, AR knows it, and the Packers know it, too. that's why they are (reportedly) "only" looking for one 1st for AR, as opposed to several. they know it's either retire or become a Jet for AR, and they want some value out of this, too. if you're the Jets, a 50/50 roll of the dice that equates to Super Bowl contenders / massive Favre-esque failure - you take that bet all day long. you might not be a contender again for another 10 years, so you maximize whatever kind of window you have and you hope AR drinks the kool-aid. and that move seems much less risky in an environment where Deshaun Watson is fully-guaranteed and one-year wonders are getting $30-40m per season. AR is a HOFer and has some tread left on his tires. he makes the Jets an instant and formidable contender.

Could've gone for Lamar Jackson.

“ What I'm hearing on Aaron Rodgers, #Jets:
- Strong feeling still that he will be a Jet. It is NOT done yet, still working through some things. Nothing finalized and GB still needs official word from Rodgers.
- Some Jets players have been frustrated about the process dragging out.”

In comment 16063323 djm said:

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If he can still play well all this nonsense talk about locker rooms and torpedos and “ny media and fans eating him alive” is pure nonsense. We take ourselves way too seriously in this town. No one is eating shit unless we’re turning into cannibals. If he comes here and sucks and the team sucks? It will get ugly. Welcome to pro sports in any town.

This. The whole "NY Media" and fans running the show is so overblown. Rodgers has been absolutely shit on ever since his vaccination status thing happened. He is used to it.

In comment 16063407 No1MDGiantsFan said:

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“ Aaron Rodgers has provided the NY Jets with a wish-list of free agents he would like them to target and acquire, per sources. It includes Randall Cobb, Allen Lazard, Marcedes Lewis and….Odell Beckham Jr.”

I'd tell NYJ brass to pivot to LJax pretty soon if this continues. I like Rodgers, but his arrogance is starting to know no limits.

Of course, LJax wouldn't be a picnic either because of the self-representation. But he's younger and brings different assets to the table.

In comment 16063442 No1MDGiantsFan said:

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“ What I'm hearing on Aaron Rodgers, #Jets: - Strong feeling still that he will be a Jet. It is NOT done yet, still working through some things. Nothing finalized and GB still needs official word from Rodgers. - Some Jets players have been frustrated about the process dragging out.”

So there’s still a chance he retires 🙏

In comment 16062908 BigBlue7 said:

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like him because he was different. This whole ordeal makes me realize he is an attention whore and "love me some me" guy.

thats been pretty clear for a few years now

I have no issue with people marching to the beat of their own drum, but I've thought-for awhile now-that AR is a complete attention whore who pretends otherwise. He gets off on shit like this. Him in NYC has the potential to be a drama that would rival whatever TV exces could put on air.

In comment 16063443 SimpleMan said:

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In comment 16063323 djm said: Quote: If he can still play well all this nonsense talk about locker rooms and torpedos and “ny media and fans eating him alive” is pure nonsense. We take ourselves way too seriously in this town. No one is eating shit unless we’re turning into cannibals. If he comes here and sucks and the team sucks? It will get ugly. Welcome to pro sports in any town. This. The whole "NY Media" and fans running the show is so overblown. Rodgers has been absolutely shit on ever since his vaccination status thing happened. He is used to it.

It’s not about asking questions post game. Life in the tri are area stinks for athletes, IMO. You can’t go anywhere or do anything without being hassled - media, fans, wackjobs, etc and every little thing is under a microscope. I didn’t think he’d want to deal with all that. But there’s only so many teams that are interested and can afford him so he may not have a choice.