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Big Rick in FL : 3/14/2023 2:26 pm
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Duggan - Why the Giants couldn’t resist Darren Waller’s upside  
US1 Giants : 3/14/2023 6:53 pm : link
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Waller will allow coach Brian Daboll and offensive coordinator Mike Kafka to tap into their creativity. Kafka took over as the Giants’ offensive coordinator last year after five seasons as part of a Chiefs offensive staff that weaponized Kelce like no tight end in NFL history. Daboll was the Patriots’ tight ends coach from 2013-16 when Rob Gronkowski was in his prime.



The Athletic - ( New Window )
Terrific trade if Waller stays healthy  
Rick in Dallas : 3/14/2023 7:08 pm : link
He will thrive in a Daboll/Kafka offense.
Again he needs to stay healthy
Schoen surprised me with this trade as I was confident he was going to draft a TE in the deep TE class
No complaints here.
Here is one thing that bothers me  
SJGiant : 3/14/2023 7:13 pm : link
About this trade that very few people are mentioning. It looks like Waller can opt out after one year. This then becomes a one year deal, almost like a rental.
RE: Terrific trade if Waller stays healthy  
ArcadeSlumlord : 3/14/2023 7:14 pm : link
In comment 16064145 Rick in Dallas said:
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He will thrive in a Daboll/Kafka offense.
Again he needs to stay healthy
Schoen surprised me with this trade as I was confident he was going to draft a TE in the deep TE class
No complaints here.


Pro bowl player NOW for essentially a 4th rnd pick, less miles on the wheels rehabbing. We could get some serious production the next 3-4 years. Better than having to teach up an unknowen rookie. They needed immediate help. He could also show Bellinger a thing or two.
RE: Here is one thing that bothers me  
ArcadeSlumlord : 3/14/2023 7:15 pm : link
In comment 16064154 SJGiant said:
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About this trade that very few people are mentioning. It looks like Waller can opt out after one year. This then becomes a one year deal, almost like a rental.


We dont know whats in the contract yet.
RE: Here is one thing that bothers me  
bLiTz 2k : 3/14/2023 7:24 pm : link
In comment 16064154 SJGiant said:
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About this trade that very few people are mentioning. It looks like Waller can opt out after one year. This then becomes a one year deal, almost like a rental.


Not saying this isn't true, but where does it say he has an opt out? Even if he does, he's very well compensated and at his age any potential divorce from the Giants in 2024 would be from the team. No way he's opting out and testing free agency at 32 when he has a very good deal already.

No one's talking about it because it's a non issue.
I guess I have to trust them  
SteelGiant : 3/14/2023 7:25 pm : link
This might be one decision I disagree with but I’m not the one holding the blueprints.

I don’t know much about Waller’s personality in the room or his intelligence.

I know Toney was a disaster and I would have rid him out of the room, and I was happy we got a 3rd round pick to move forward with another young player.

But we just signed a 31 year old who has has not really played consistently for 2 years and last year he had hamstrings issues. There are some comments out there on the interwebs that some fans questioned if he was even really hurt.

I’m happy that we can at least get out of the contract that if it goes bad but I think I would have kept the pick. I was personally hoping that we could package our 3rds and get back into the second for another young prospect,

As a fan I hope things works out and I hope this risk works out. This does send a stronger message than I expected about competing this year.
RE: RE: Here is one thing that bothers me  
SJGiant : 3/14/2023 7:29 pm : link
In comment 16064165 bLiTz 2k said:
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In comment 16064154 SJGiant said:


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About this trade that very few people are mentioning. It looks like Waller can opt out after one year. This then becomes a one year deal, almost like a rental.



Not saying this isn't true, but where does it say he has an opt out? Even if he does, he's very well compensated and at his age any potential divorce from the Giants in 2024 would be from the team. No way he's opting out and testing free agency at 32 when he has a very good deal already.

No one's talking about it because it's a non issue.


Here is the reference to the opt out. Whether it’s true is a different story..

Darren Waller article - ( New Window )
RE: I guess I have to trust them  
UConn4523 : 3/14/2023 7:34 pm : link
In comment 16064168 SteelGiant said:
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This might be one decision I disagree with but I’m not the one holding the blueprints.

I don’t know much about Waller’s personality in the room or his intelligence.

I know Toney was a disaster and I would have rid him out of the room, and I was happy we got a 3rd round pick to move forward with another young player.

But we just signed a 31 year old who has has not really played consistently for 2 years and last year he had hamstrings issues. There are some comments out there on the interwebs that some fans questioned if he was even really hurt.

I’m happy that we can at least get out of the contract that if it goes bad but I think I would have kept the pick. I was personally hoping that we could package our 3rds and get back into the second for another young prospect,

As a fan I hope things works out and I hope this risk works out. This does send a stronger message than I expected about competing this year.


It’s a 3rd rounder, if it doesn’t work out it doesn’t work out. But it has a better likelihood of working out than whoever we would be taking with the pick. There almost no risk here.
Pardon me for asking, but is Waller currently healthy?  
Marty in Albany : 3/14/2023 7:36 pm : link
Or is he still injured and rehabbing?
If he is still injured, what is the most reasonable, untruthful prediction about when he will be ready to start practicing and when he will be ready to play.
This is a game changing player  
mattlawson : 3/14/2023 7:37 pm : link
A headache player. We now have Barkley and Waller. That’s a fine start to providing some offensive weaponry.

And people still bitch and moan
RE: RE: I guess I have to trust them  
SteelGiant : 3/14/2023 7:40 pm : link
In comment 16064182 UConn4523 said:
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This might be one decision I disagree with but I’m not the one holding the blueprints.

I don’t know much about Waller’s personality in the room or his intelligence.

I know Toney was a disaster and I would have rid him out of the room, and I was happy we got a 3rd round pick to move forward with another young player.

But we just signed a 31 year old who has has not really played consistently for 2 years and last year he had hamstrings issues. There are some comments out there on the interwebs that some fans questioned if he was even really hurt.

I’m happy that we can at least get out of the contract that if it goes bad but I think I would have kept the pick. I was personally hoping that we could package our 3rds and get back into the second for another young prospect,

As a fan I hope things works out and I hope this risk works out. This does send a stronger message than I expected about competing this year.



It’s a 3rd rounder, if it doesn’t work out it doesn’t work out. But it has a better likelihood of working out than whoever we would be taking with the pick. There almost no risk here.


On the grand scheme of things, I agree . I am ok with the risk/reward. I’m just going to dip my toes into the excitement pool on this one.
RE: Here is one thing that bothers me  
NYG07 : 3/14/2023 7:44 pm : link
In comment 16064154 SJGiant said:
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About this trade that very few people are mentioning. It looks like Waller can opt out after one year. This then becomes a one year deal, almost like a rental.


I am not worried about that. Assuming Dexter Lawrence gets a new contract, if Waller has a great year and opts out, we can just tag him at a very reasonable price.
RE: RE: Here is one thing that bothers me  
5BowlsSoon : 3/14/2023 7:47 pm : link
In comment 16064204 NYG07 said:
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About this trade that very few people are mentioning. It looks like Waller can opt out after one year. This then becomes a one year deal, almost like a rental.



I am not worried about that. Assuming Dexter Lawrence gets a new contract, if Waller has a great year and opts out, we can just tag him at a very reasonable price.


Are we sure he can opt out? I know NY can cut him with no consequences, but I’m not aware he can opt out as well.
RE: Pardon me for asking, but is Waller currently healthy?  
Strahan91 : 3/14/2023 7:48 pm : link
In comment 16064190 Marty in Albany said:
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Or is he still injured and rehabbing?
If he is still injured, what is the most reasonable, untruthful prediction about when he will be ready to start practicing and when he will be ready to play.

He’s healthy. He returned for the last four games of the season
RE: RE: RE: Here is one thing that bothers me  
Strahan91 : 3/14/2023 7:50 pm : link
In comment 16064206 5BowlsSoon said:
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About this trade that very few people are mentioning. It looks like Waller can opt out after one year. This then becomes a one year deal, almost like a rental.



I am not worried about that. Assuming Dexter Lawrence gets a new contract, if Waller has a great year and opts out, we can just tag him at a very reasonable price.



Are we sure he can opt out? I know NY can cut him with no consequences, but I’m not aware he can opt out as well.

I don’t know where this came from. There’s no mention anywhere of him being able to opt out.
RE: I guess I have to trust them  
bw in dc : 3/14/2023 7:50 pm : link
In comment 16064168 SteelGiant said:
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This might be one decision I disagree with but I’m not the one holding the blueprints.

I don’t know much about Waller’s personality in the room or his intelligence.

I know Toney was a disaster and I would have rid him out of the room, and I was happy we got a 3rd round pick to move forward with another young player.

But we just signed a 31 year old who has has not really played consistently for 2 years and last year he had hamstrings issues. There are some comments out there on the interwebs that some fans questioned if he was even really hurt.

I’m happy that we can at least get out of the contract that if it goes bad but I think I would have kept the pick. I was personally hoping that we could package our 3rds and get back into the second for another young prospect,

As a fan I hope things works out and I hope this risk works out. This does send a stronger message than I expected about competing this year.


That's all fair.

Waller is easy to root for because of his struggles with addiction. He's been through some serious darkness in his life and has managed to come out the other side still in one piece and with a new perspective. And I admire his honestly in sharing his journey.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Here is one thing that bothers me  
No1MDGiantsFan : 3/14/2023 8:06 pm : link
In comment 16064214 Strahan91 said:
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About this trade that very few people are mentioning. It looks like Waller can opt out after one year. This then becomes a one year deal, almost like a rental.



I am not worried about that. Assuming Dexter Lawrence gets a new contract, if Waller has a great year and opts out, we can just tag him at a very reasonable price.



Are we sure he can opt out? I know NY can cut him with no consequences, but I’m not aware he can opt out as well.


I don’t know where this came from. There’s no mention anywhere of him being able to opt out.


Color me confused too. I see no opt-outs in his contract anywhere
it's fair to call this a risk - same as a hopkins or sutton trade  
Eric on Li : 3/14/2023 8:06 pm : link
all 3 may or may not still be in prime years.

but same as those guys the risk is hedged against disaster because he doesn't have much guaranteed money. if you are giving lazard or obj 20m+ guaranteed that extra $10m+ dead money risk is riskier than giving up a pick.

last year they drafted bellinger and belton right around pick #100 and as much as they flashed they are probably replacement level players. giving up picks like that arent the end of the world, and for the upside of a real impact player it's worth it. and you can certainly buy a handful of replacement level vets for the dead money you save by not giving out a UFA deal.

the question im bouncing back and forth on is whether it would have been better to get hockenson at the deadline. i think waller is the better player but obviously carries a lot more mileage/injury risk.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Here is one thing that bothers me  
SJGiant : 3/14/2023 8:13 pm : link
In comment 16064237 No1MDGiantsFan said:
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About this trade that very few people are mentioning. It looks like Waller can opt out after one year. This then becomes a one year deal, almost like a rental.



I am not worried about that. Assuming Dexter Lawrence gets a new contract, if Waller has a great year and opts out, we can just tag him at a very reasonable price.



Are we sure he can opt out? I know NY can cut him with no consequences, but I’m not aware he can opt out as well.


I don’t know where this came from. There’s no mention anywhere of him being able to opt out.



Color me confused too. I see no opt-outs in his contract anywhere


Again. It’s mentioned in the linked article. Whether it’s true or not is a different story. As already mentioned by others, there is really nothing to worry about either.
Darren Walker article - ( New Window )
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Here is one thing that bothers me  
Strahan91 : 3/14/2023 8:18 pm : link
In comment 16064248 SJGiant said:
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Again. It’s mentioned in the linked article. Whether it’s true or not is a different story. As already mentioned by others, there is really nothing to worry about either. Darren Walker article - ( New Window )

The Giants can get out after this year with no dead money which is the opt out referenced. The author likely saw on sportrac that after this year there’s a “potential out” which is just how the site displays when a team can cut a player with little dead money for cap savings.
RE: RE: RE: Here is one thing that bothers me  
bLiTz 2k : 3/14/2023 8:19 pm : link
In comment 16064173 SJGiant said:
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In comment 16064154 SJGiant said:


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About this trade that very few people are mentioning. It looks like Waller can opt out after one year. This then becomes a one year deal, almost like a rental.



Not saying this isn't true, but where does it say he has an opt out? Even if he does, he's very well compensated and at his age any potential divorce from the Giants in 2024 would be from the team. No way he's opting out and testing free agency at 32 when he has a very good deal already.

No one's talking about it because it's a non issue.



Here is the reference to the opt out. Whether it’s true is a different story.. Darren Waller article - ( New Window )


Lol fox news. Dumb ass writer is probably confusing the fact that he has no guarantees after 23, hence they can "opt out" of the deal and release him with no cap hit.

Be careful what you parrot, and always consider the source.
It’s a good deal or gamble at this point  
Rudy5757 : 3/14/2023 8:20 pm : link
I hope he’s healthy. I was hoping for a trade for a WR and get a TE in the draft.

This deal is awesome if he’s healthy and not a killer if he’s not
RE: RE: RE: Here is one thing that bothers me  
Big Rick in FL : 3/14/2023 8:32 pm : link
In comment 16064173 SJGiant said:
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In comment 16064154 SJGiant said:


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About this trade that very few people are mentioning. It looks like Waller can opt out after one year. This then becomes a one year deal, almost like a rental.



Not saying this isn't true, but where does it say he has an opt out? Even if he does, he's very well compensated and at his age any potential divorce from the Giants in 2024 would be from the team. No way he's opting out and testing free agency at 32 when he has a very good deal already.

No one's talking about it because it's a non issue.



Here is the reference to the opt out. Whether it’s true is a different story.. Darren Waller article - ( New Window )


Don't think it's a player opt out. Pretty sure the Giants can opt out after this year without any dead money.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Here is one thing that bothers me  
No1MDGiantsFan : 3/14/2023 8:38 pm : link
In comment 16064271 Big Rick in FL said:
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In comment 16064165 bLiTz 2k said:


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In comment 16064154 SJGiant said:


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About this trade that very few people are mentioning. It looks like Waller can opt out after one year. This then becomes a one year deal, almost like a rental.



Not saying this isn't true, but where does it say he has an opt out? Even if he does, he's very well compensated and at his age any potential divorce from the Giants in 2024 would be from the team. No way he's opting out and testing free agency at 32 when he has a very good deal already.

No one's talking about it because it's a non issue.



Here is the reference to the opt out. Whether it’s true is a different story.. Darren Waller article - ( New Window )



Don't think it's a player opt out. Pretty sure the Giants can opt out after this year without any dead money.


Yes that’s correct they can just cut him with no dead money. It’s not really a “clause” like the article suggests it’s just how it’s structured. As has been mentioned here they could try to restructure it to lower his cap hit this year.
Waller and Okereke  
MotownGIANTS : 3/14/2023 9:02 pm : link
Defense wins...
1:11 mark - ( New Window )
It's going to go tits up in Vegas, isn't it?  
Gruber : 3/14/2023 9:08 pm : link
I really don't see it working out for McDaniels.
Gruber the whole initial vibe out here is lost.  
gtt350 : 3/14/2023 9:25 pm : link
There is no concept of continuity or coherence
Waller if healthy instantly becomes the BEST receiving option  
CornerStone246+17 : 3/14/2023 9:35 pm : link
Of Daniel Jones entire 8-9 year career from College to the Pros by like A LOT.
RE: Waller and Okereke  
GFAN52 : 3/14/2023 9:41 pm : link
In comment 16064291 MotownGIANTS said:
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Defense wins... 1:11 mark - ( New Window )


Nice find.
RE: it's fair to call this a risk - same as a hopkins or sutton trade  
CornerStone246+17 : 3/14/2023 9:42 pm : link
In comment 16064238 Eric on Li said:
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all 3 may or may not still be in prime years.

but same as those guys the risk is hedged against disaster because he doesn't have much guaranteed money. if you are giving lazard or obj 20m+ guaranteed that extra $10m+ dead money risk is riskier than giving up a pick.

last year they drafted bellinger and belton right around pick #100 and as much as they flashed they are probably replacement level players. giving up picks like that arent the end of the world, and for the upside of a real impact player it's worth it. and you can certainly buy a handful of replacement level vets for the dead money you save by not giving out a UFA deal.

the question im bouncing back and forth on is whether it would have been better to get hockenson at the deadline. i think waller is the better player but obviously carries a lot more mileage/injury risk.


With his 11M cap hit (which may or may not be lowered) and a bit highr injury risk , I really think this pushes us towards a younger receiver still on a rookie contract.

Jeudy, Pittman Jr, Aiyuk etc. Jeudy has this year and a 5th year option so he may be most ideal. Aiyuk too but he probably costs a #1.
RE: it's fair to call this a risk - same as a hopkins or sutton trade  
dpinzow : 3/14/2023 10:13 pm : link
In comment 16064238 Eric on Li said:
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all 3 may or may not still be in prime years.

but same as those guys the risk is hedged against disaster because he doesn't have much guaranteed money. if you are giving lazard or obj 20m+ guaranteed that extra $10m+ dead money risk is riskier than giving up a pick.

last year they drafted bellinger and belton right around pick #100 and as much as they flashed they are probably replacement level players. giving up picks like that arent the end of the world, and for the upside of a real impact player it's worth it. and you can certainly buy a handful of replacement level vets for the dead money you save by not giving out a UFA deal.

the question im bouncing back and forth on is whether it would have been better to get hockenson at the deadline. i think waller is the better player but obviously carries a lot more mileage/injury risk.


I disagree on Bellinger. I think he could be at least a mid-level TE in this league. He already showed signs of being really good as a rookie and that position is hard to learn right away at the NFL level.

Waller is on what is effectively a year-to-year deal so the Giants can cut him loose if he doesn't work out. Glad we didn't go for Lazard and give a #3 WR $22 million guaranteed. I would probably pass on OBJ too because of the injury history, not because of his attitude. I don't care that OBJ isn't a Boy Scout, but I do care about that left knee being reconstructed twice
a mid-level te is replacement level  
Eric on Li : 3/14/2023 10:19 pm : link
im not saying that doesnt have value, i like bellinger. he can be a quality tight end. i dont think he'll ever be a guy that keeps another team awake the night before the game. most 3rd/4th round picks aren't, which is why i dont mind trading them for a player like waller who does when the opportunity fits.
Big double swing  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 3/14/2023 10:24 pm : link
Can’t call it a HR.

It’s hit/miss. If he stays healthy, great weapon for DJ.

Hes 31+. Played 9 games last year, 11 the one before. We’ll see how he fares. But healthy? No question I like it.
RE: RE: it's fair to call this a risk - same as a hopkins or sutton trade  
Payasdaddy : 3/14/2023 10:27 pm : link
In comment 16064378 dpinzow said:
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all 3 may or may not still be in prime years.

but same as those guys the risk is hedged against disaster because he doesn't have much guaranteed money. if you are giving lazard or obj 20m+ guaranteed that extra $10m+ dead money risk is riskier than giving up a pick.

last year they drafted bellinger and belton right around pick #100 and as much as they flashed they are probably replacement level players. giving up picks like that arent the end of the world, and for the upside of a real impact player it's worth it. and you can certainly buy a handful of replacement level vets for the dead money you save by not giving out a UFA deal.

the question im bouncing back and forth on is whether it would have been better to get hockenson at the deadline. i think waller is the better player but obviously carries a lot more mileage/injury risk.



I disagree on Bellinger. I think he could be at least a mid-level TE in this league. He already showed signs of being really good as a rookie and that position is hard to learn right away at the NFL level.

Waller is on what is effectively a year-to-year deal so the Giants can cut him loose if he doesn't work out. Glad we didn't go for Lazard and give a #3 WR $22 million guaranteed. I would probably pass on OBJ too because of the injury history, not because of his attitude. I don't care that OBJ isn't a Boy Scout, but I do care about that left knee being reconstructed twice


I like Bellinger. He may have a bit more upside to him. But if u can improve position, u do it. Waller a match up nitemare. Almost shockey like if healthy. They will both be on the field quiet a bit since I bet Waller split out 1/2 the time.
Call Waller a TE or Call him a WR, He's an alpha receiver  
Rod in St Cloud : 3/14/2023 11:12 pm : link
His RAS score as a TE is 9.85. But since he's not really an inline TE and serves more a WR, his RAS score as a WR is 8.86. His 40 was 4.46. A 6'6 guy with 4.46 speed is dang fast and he's got hands and separation abilities. Where do you suppose you would draft a WR with that size and speed? That sounds like a top-10 player in the draft to me! And we got him for a late 3rd rounder because he's got injury concerns. If he had no injury concerns, do you really think we could get him for a 3rd rounder? This was a steal and Daniel Jones will be thrilled to have him.

Thanks Strahan  
Marty in Albany : 3/14/2023 11:34 pm : link
Glad to hear he finished the season.
From SNY in part  
Big Blue '56 : 3/15/2023 6:23 am : link
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Waller has four years and $52.5 million remaining on his contract. His $11 million salary this year is the only guarantee the Giants inherit. Waller will count $12.4 million on the Giants’ cap, per OverTheCap.com. The Giants do have the ability to convert Waller’s base salary to signing bonus, spreading out the cap hit over those remaining four years, if they wish to create more cap space for this year.

I see OTC has Waller  
section125 : 3/15/2023 6:55 am : link
listed already.
Not sure I get that it lists Waller as getting a $1.275 mill roster bonus per game - that just is not correct. Is he getting 1/17 of $1.275 mill per game - is that the total he can earn in the season?
RE: Big double swing  
Sean : 3/15/2023 7:15 am : link
In comment 16064386 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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Can’t call it a HR.

It’s hit/miss. If he stays healthy, great weapon for DJ.

Hes 31+. Played 9 games last year, 11 the one before. We’ll see how he fares. But healthy? No question I like it.

The health concerns are baked into the cost to acquire him though. If he had no health concerns, you probably have to give up a first. A classic buy low.
RE: RE: Big double swing  
Big Blue '56 : 3/15/2023 7:27 am : link
In comment 16064524 Sean said:
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Can’t call it a HR.

It’s hit/miss. If he stays healthy, great weapon for DJ.

Hes 31+. Played 9 games last year, 11 the one before. We’ll see how he fares. But healthy? No question I like it.


The health concerns are baked into the cost to acquire him though. If he had no health concerns, you probably have to give up a first. A classic buy low.


Yup and agree
RE: Waller and Okereke  
DefenseWins : 3/15/2023 7:29 am : link
In comment 16064291 MotownGIANTS said:
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Defense wins... 1:11 mark - ( New Window )


nice to see our new LB that far down field in coverage
RE: RE: Waller and Okereke  
Big Blue '56 : 3/15/2023 7:32 am : link
In comment 16064530 DefenseWins said:
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Defense wins... 1:11 mark - ( New Window )



nice to see our new LB that far down field in coverage


I think he’ll prove to be a steal..
RE: Here is one thing that bothers me  
Ira : 3/15/2023 8:02 am : link
In comment 16064154 SJGiant said:
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About this trade that very few people are mentioning. It looks like Waller can opt out after one year. This then becomes a one year deal, almost like a rental.


If he opts out for a better contract, we should get a comp pick - maybe a 3rd round comp pick.
good day for the Giants. If Waller is healthy he will be a huge  
Victor in CT : 3/15/2023 8:17 am : link
asset for the offense. Dust off that old Giants TE seam play!
RE: RE: Here is one thing that bothers me  
section125 : 3/15/2023 8:18 am : link
In comment 16064555 Ira said:
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About this trade that very few people are mentioning. It looks like Waller can opt out after one year. This then becomes a one year deal, almost like a rental.



If he opts out for a better contract, we should get a comp pick - maybe a 3rd round comp pick.


He cannot opt out. The Giants can cut him with little impact, but he cannot just walk away.
Joe Schoen is doing a good job  
Gruber : 3/15/2023 8:44 am : link
of staying away from bad contracts.
RE: good day for the Giants. If Waller is healthy he will be a huge  
ColHowPepper : 3/15/2023 8:49 am : link
In comment 16064565 Victor in CT said:
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asset for the offense. Dust off that old Giants TE seam play!
Sy' likes it, says huge for this offense, compares Waller to....EE in terms of skill set, e.g., Giants are not getting him for his in-line blocking role, but cites 'sure hands' !! Will be extra interesting to see where JS/BB and Kafka want to go from here in the receiver group.
The Giants can opt out  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 3/15/2023 8:49 am : link

Waller can't opt out.

This is a great deal for the Giants.
Am I the only one who didn’t know  
HarryCarson53 : 3/15/2023 8:51 am : link
Darren Waller is the great-grandson of Fats Waller?
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