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Bellinger's dad "feuding" with writer from The Athletic

DanMetroMan : 3/15/2023 11:19 am
Tim Graham
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I am not joking. I already have received a DM from Daniel Bellinger's father, who is upset that I wrote Darren Waller is much better than his son.
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Dick  
redwhiteandbigblue : 3/15/2023 11:33 am : link
Move. Classless.
RE: that's  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 3/15/2023 11:34 am : link
In comment 16064953 Eric from BBI said:
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the kind of thing the writer should keep under wraps. Dick move.


100%.
Oh, FFS  
Anakim : 3/15/2023 11:36 am : link
.
Dick  
Straw Hat : 3/15/2023 11:44 am : link
Move by the writer, but Mr Bellinger has to grow a pair. Daniel doesnt need protection from the scary media.
Isn't that why you pay an agent?  
NoPeanutz : 3/15/2023 11:45 am : link
Let him deal with this shit? Why dads getting involved.
RE: Dick  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/15/2023 11:46 am : link
In comment 16065021 Straw Hat said:
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Move by the writer, but Mr Bellinger has to grow a pair. Daniel doesnt need protection from the scary media.


Family members have contacted me over the years, sometimes upset. It's family.
A father believes  
TrueBlue56 : 3/15/2023 11:47 am : link
His son is better. Color me shocked.

And yes a dick move by the writer. Making a story out of a non story.
RE: that's  
The Dude : 3/15/2023 11:48 am : link
In comment 16064953 Eric from BBI said:
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the kind of thing the writer should keep under wraps. Dick move.


Even thought i think Bellingers dad is out of line.....this is wack by the writer.
Duggan is generally a good beat writer  
JB_in_DC : 3/15/2023 11:50 am : link
But the guy can be smarmy
RE: RE: Dick  
Straw Hat : 3/15/2023 11:52 am : link
In comment 16065023 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16065021 Straw Hat said:


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Move by the writer, but Mr Bellinger has to grow a pair. Daniel doesnt need protection from the scary media.



Family members have contacted me over the years, sometimes upset. It's family.


I understand him being upset, but family members of players need to understand the media are going to talk about the player, compare them, and sometimes speak negative of them. You dont need to go mad dogging every talking head that says something you don’t agree with. It comes with the territory. The guy said waller was better, which he absolutely is! Accept it.
I think  
Fred in Atlanta : 3/15/2023 11:55 am : link
Waller would be good for Bellinger, You got to believe Giants will run a lot of two TE personal.
Straw Hat  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/15/2023 11:57 am : link
You dad and mom might not be so guarded with their emotions if someone on social media criticized you.

The dad didn't publicly go after the writer. He DM'ed him. And the writer chose to make it public.

Straw Hat  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/15/2023 11:59 am : link
Who's subject to greater criticism here?

The dad protecting his son (privately).

Or the "professional writer" who makes public a private conversation because he feel he's being criticized by a family member for defending his son?
In the Australian/British sense of the word,  
Mike from SI : 3/15/2023 12:00 pm : link
the writer is being more c***y than Bellinger's dad. But I think a bad look for both of them.
Eric  
Straw Hat : 3/15/2023 12:03 pm : link
I agree the writer is more to blame here. No question, highly unprofessional. I just think Bellinger’s dad should chill out too.
RE: that's  
Payasdaddy : 3/15/2023 12:04 pm : link
In comment 16064953 Eric from BBI said:
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the kind of thing the writer should keep under wraps. Dick move.


Agreed. If I was him I would even council the dad on how it’s a slippery slope to go down this route. Both should stfu
RE: Straw Hat  
Blue21 : 3/15/2023 12:05 pm : link
In comment 16065050 Eric from BBI said:
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Who's subject to greater criticism here?

The dad protecting his son (privately).

Or the "professional writer" who makes public a private conversation because he feel he's being criticized by a family member for defending his son?
The writer for making it public. The father can't let like this stuff bother him and the writer has got to keep a private response private. The Dad doesn't have the audience the writer does.
RE: Duggan is generally a good beat writer  
BigBlueShock : 3/15/2023 12:07 pm : link
In comment 16065032 JB_in_DC said:
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But the guy can be smarmy

This isn’t Duggan
RE: RE: Duggan is generally a good beat writer  
JB_in_DC : 3/15/2023 12:22 pm : link
In comment 16065067 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 16065032 JB_in_DC said:


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But the guy can be smarmy


This isn’t Duggan


Oh crap - thanks for the heads up. I saw three letters and a G and skimmed it. Apologies to Dan - I’ve made an ass of myself.

I have never heard of Tim Graham.
Dumb of his father to take that bait  
UConn4523 : 3/15/2023 12:26 pm : link
even dumber for this guy to publish it.
Also  
UConn4523 : 3/15/2023 12:29 pm : link
He messaged this guy twice in 3 hours, but you’d think with that shitty caption Bellingers dad fired off 100 messages. Maybe there’s more but I’d vote on the writer lying.
RE: Straw Hat  
Coopcomic : 3/15/2023 12:39 pm : link
In comment 16065050 Eric from BBI said:
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Who's subject to greater criticism here?

The dad protecting his son (privately).

Or the "professional writer" who makes public a private conversation because he feel he's being criticized by a family member for defending his son?


Correct - but the writer becoming the story is the new normal it seems. Elevate profile at any cost.
Having read what Bellinger's father said  
Red Right Hand : 3/15/2023 1:33 pm : link
It was pretty mild, and strictly speaking, he kinda did have a point. he simply said Wallers 1st 3 years combined didn't match what his son did his rookie year. he wasn't nasty or smarmy, it certainly wasn't like Bellingers dad was being an asshole.

The writer was a combative cock. I saw nothing wrong with what Bellingers dad wrote. even put a heart emoji.I am not a bellinger homer. Glad we signed Waller, this writer is an asshole. made like he was being harrangued or stalked. He wasn't. He sent a brieg blurb making a point that is factual, nothing more. Graham is the one throwing a tantrum, not Mr. Bellinger.
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Thegratefulhead : 3/15/2023 1:38 pm : link
In comment 16064953 Eric from BBI said:
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the kind of thing the writer should keep under wraps. Dick move.
This
why make it public  
bc4life : 3/15/2023 2:18 pm : link
aren't reporters supposed to avoid making themselves the story?
Wow, well I'm sure this writer will lose  
aimrocky : 3/15/2023 2:29 pm : link
whatever credibility or connections he had with players.
also  
djm : 3/15/2023 2:33 pm : link
Bellinger contributed legit production as a rookie in the NFL. Waller did not.

Waller should be better, he's a 6-7 year vet already.

BEllinger has a place with NYG and shouldn't worry. There's more than enough room for both TEs and Waller aint getting an younger. Hernandez and Gronk did it. Bavaro and Mowatt (and eventually Cross) did it. Ertz and Goddert did it.

RE: that's  
JerrysKids : 3/15/2023 3:06 pm : link
In comment 16064953 Eric from BBI said:
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the kind of thing the writer should keep under wraps. Dick move.


agree with that, BTW I love the papa bear standing up for his son, and I do think Belly is the best TE on the roster going into the season.
From the writer's side, this reveals a conundrum of our times:  
81_Great_Dane : 3/15/2023 3:15 pm : link
Online outlets like The Athletic generally encourage their writers to be active on social media, develop a following, and generate clicks. If you're a writer for them, to really do that, you have to be provocative. You have to have hot takes. And if you have exclusive tidbits of information, you have to exploit them. You have to get people to post about your tweets on fan boards like this one.

But if you're doing that, yeah, you often end up being a dick. And possibly burning sources.
Somewhat  
DanMetroMan : 3/15/2023 3:28 pm : link
timely lol
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No idea who this writer is  
TheOtherManning : 3/15/2023 3:30 pm : link
But it's his job to write about football. But unless he wrote some provocative or nasty things about Bellinger in his article, it's whack for Bellinger Sr. to act like it's a personal attack and go out of his way to contact & question the writer.

How many people here would appreciate a 3rd party showing up and giving you their unsolicited opinion on how you're doing your job. Would you go up to a grocery store clerk and criticize how they were stocking a shelf? "You put the organic bananas in with the Dole bananas, stop embarrassing yourself."

Try that and I guarantee you're going to be talked about in the break room or on social media. Do you guys only share stories or happenings from your life after you've gotten express permission from the other party?
Bellinger's dad made a surprisingly reasoned point.  
Big Blue Blogger : 3/15/2023 4:01 pm : link
He did his homework, and correctly noted that Waller was on his second team and fifth season (four active) before he did anything in the NFL. Waller was sideline by substance abuse, and was such a non-factor at tight end that the Ravens, [i]who had drafted him as a wide receiver[i/], went through Maxx Williams (second round bust), Dennis Pitta (comeback vet), Ben Watson (another comeback vet) and moved on to Hayden Hurst (first round bust) and Mark Andrews (third round boom) while Waller was there.

Anyway, it's a dumb comparison. Waller and Bellinger complement each other. When Waller was healthy in Oakland, the Raiders had a second TE on the field about 60% of the time; and no disrespect to 38-year-old Jason Witten, but neither he nor Justin Moreau offered as much as Daniel Bellinger.
His father should have never sent that  
arniefez : 3/15/2023 4:09 pm : link
once he did he lost control of it. Nothing good can come from him sending it. His son is a public sports person. People are going to write things about him. Some may not be pleasant for people close to him to read. Can you imagine the s**t storm if Daniel Jones' father had sent something like that to a writer. It's bad business for his son.
If a writer is going to be on twitter,  
Mad Mike : 3/15/2023 4:18 pm : link
they should expect fans to respond to things they've written or posted. They can engage or not, but if not, they should simply ignore. Unless Bellinger's father said something obnoxious or profane (which I didn't see, though I didn't bother going through much), if this guy doesn't want to discuss things with him, there's no reason to then do anything more than ignore him.

I do however think it's silly, and no-win, for Bellinger's dad to try to argue with someone who he thinks underrates his kid. (And if he's doing it dm's rather than just engaging normally in twitter, that seems particularly unnecessary).

L's all around, they should both move on to something productive, like arguing on social media about who wore it best at the Oscars.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/15/2023 6:43 pm : link
I don't mind Bellinger's old man chiming in. But I thought it was low class for the writer to make that public.
Both were wrong, but the writer should be expected to behave with more  
Ira : 3/15/2023 7:01 pm : link
professionalism.
Writer seems like a total douche  
illmatic : 3/15/2023 7:08 pm : link
His dad didn’t even say anything bad in the DM to warrant that kind of response from the writer. Looks like he’s just seeking attention and he’s getting what he wanted.
Funny how most fans are siding with Bellinger's dad  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/15/2023 8:46 pm : link
And every single one of you would have been out for blood if it was Eli Apple and his mother.

Probably the same reason why Alex Bachman is a fan favorite every training camp.
RE: From the writer's side, this reveals a conundrum of our times:  
Red Right Hand : 3/15/2023 8:49 pm : link
In comment 16065517 81_Great_Dane said:
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Online outlets like The Athletic generally encourage their writers to be active on social media, develop a following, and generate clicks. If you're a writer for them, to really do that, you have to be provocative. You have to have hot takes. And if you have exclusive tidbits of information, you have to exploit them. You have to get people to post about your tweets on fan boards like this one.

But if you're doing that, yeah, you often end up being a dick. And possibly burning sources.
No, you have to be provocative if you have no actual talent, insights, or connections. If you have any of those 3 you don't have to be an asshole. Lacking them, you do.....
I think writers should assume parents love their children  
Essex : 3/15/2023 8:56 pm : link
And some will go out of their way to be protective. If you are the writer just deal with it . Even Harry Truman, president of the United States couldn’t take criticism of his daughter. I always found his letter in the link below, funny but so real. Parents love their children and some would go to any length to protect them, even if it subjects them to ridicule.

The writer is a professional with no emotions involved

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This is a lot of debate and analysis for something that's just funny.  
BeggarsBanquet : 3/15/2023 8:59 pm : link
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I don’t love either side  
Daniel in MI : 3/15/2023 9:03 pm : link
here. Even if the dad has a point, is he going to behind the scenes try to convince every reporter who expresses this opinion? And to not let it go (guy said it went on for hours) is dumb.

The reporter engaging beyond “I understand your position” is silly and making it public is a dick move.
RE: No idea who this writer is  
bwitz : 3/15/2023 9:42 pm : link
In comment 16065549 TheOtherManning said:
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But it's his job to write about football. But unless he wrote some provocative or nasty things about Bellinger in his article, it's whack for Bellinger Sr. to act like it's a personal attack and go out of his way to contact & question the writer.

How many people here would appreciate a 3rd party showing up and giving you their unsolicited opinion on how you're doing your job. Would you go up to a grocery store clerk and criticize how they were stocking a shelf? "You put the organic bananas in with the Dole bananas, stop embarrassing yourself."

Try that and I guarantee you're going to be talked about in the break room or on social media. Do you guys only share stories or happenings from your life after you've gotten express permission from the other party?


Totally missing the point. Way to go with your TL;DR post though.
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TheOtherManning : 3/15/2023 11:40 pm : link
In comment 16066043 bwitz said:
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In comment 16065549 TheOtherManning said:


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But it's his job to write about football. But unless he wrote some provocative or nasty things about Bellinger in his article, it's whack for Bellinger Sr. to act like it's a personal attack and go out of his way to contact & question the writer.

How many people here would appreciate a 3rd party showing up and giving you their unsolicited opinion on how you're doing your job. Would you go up to a grocery store clerk and criticize how they were stocking a shelf? "You put the organic bananas in with the Dole bananas, stop embarrassing yourself."

Try that and I guarantee you're going to be talked about in the break room or on social media. Do you guys only share stories or happenings from your life after you've gotten express permission from the other party?



Totally missing the point. Way to go with your TL;DR post though.


So was my post too long to read or did it miss the point? Those are mutually exclusive.

It's not hard to be snarky on the internet, except apparently when you try it.
RE: Funny how most fans are siding with Bellinger's dad  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/15/2023 11:44 pm : link
In comment 16065976 Gatorade Dunk said:
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And every single one of you would have been out for blood if it was Eli Apple and his mother.

Probably the same reason why Alex Bachman is a fan favorite every training camp.


Only a racist thinks this way.

Sad.
RE: why make it public  
LauderdaleMatty : 3/15/2023 11:50 pm : link
In comment 16065360 bc4life said:
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aren't reporters supposed to avoid making themselves the story?


Um. Maybe 70 years ago? These days. Sadly they think they are more important that neuro surgeons.
WTF, why are people giving shit to Belli's dad?  
ArcadeSlumlord : 3/16/2023 11:41 am : link
I'd defend my son too. Are you all Godless creatures on this forum? wtf?

The "reporter" on the other hand appears to be a clickbait cockroach hack. Trying to pay bills by starting shit. True bottom of the barrel scumbag.
RE: Funny how most fans are siding with Bellinger's dad  
mfsd : 3/16/2023 12:03 pm : link
In comment 16065976 Gatorade Dunk said:
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And every single one of you would have been out for blood if it was Eli Apple and his mother.

Probably the same reason why Alex Bachman is a fan favorite every training camp.


That’s an idiotic opinion. Apples Mom put it all out there herself publicly. In this case the writer is posting screenshots of private messages from Bellinger’s Dad. Pretty simple difference
I think the only dick move here is the writer  
Matt M. : 3/16/2023 10:50 pm : link
Obviously we don't know what Bellinger's dad said. If he was out of line, then that's a different story. But, I didn't get that impression. He replied privately to a criticism of his kid. So what? The writer was immature and dick for making it public.

Plus, I think Bellinger is actually still the TE1 on this team because he can block a lot better than anyone expected. Waller is a nice addition, but he won't be on the field for all snaps.
RE: I don’t love either side  
jhibb : 3/17/2023 10:16 pm : link
In comment 16065991 Daniel in MI said:
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here. Even if the dad has a point, is he going to behind the scenes try to convince every reporter who expresses this opinion? And to not let it go (guy said it went on for hours) is dumb.

The reporter engaging beyond “I understand your position” is silly and making it public is a dick move.


The only portion of the DMs that the reporter posted showed only two messages from the dad 2.5 hours apart from each other (with almost immediate responses to both by the reporter). So I'm thinking "DMimg me for almost 4 hours" doesn't really mean what he wants us to think it means.
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