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𝗨𝗣𝗗𝗔𝗧𝗘: The #Patriots have called the #Cardinals about trading for WR DeAndre Hopkins and the #Broncos about trading for WR Jerry Jeudy, per @jeffphowe
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Denver is reportedly asking for "at least" a 1st round pick for Jeudy.
they only save like 2m trading him and it opens up a big hole so why do it if it doesn't bring back a 1st? maybe they cave and take a 2nd but that would be a bad move.
i think more likely they drop the price on sutton significantly at some point and some team that misses out on a WR in FA or draft takes a chance on him. id have much rathered have sutton with just 13m guaranteed left than signing allen lazard for what he got.
I don't believe it was one or the other. I think they'd do both if the opportunity arose. Waller plays TE, Jeudy plays WR and both positions are really weak.
yep walk away from that he needs to be paid next yr
and he is a wr2 with upside not a wr1
I look at it another way.
Denver sees the dearth of good FA WRs and thinks some team might overpay for him. They don't really want to trade Jeudy.
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Glad the Giants decided to go with a 3rd for Waller over the price for Jeudy.
I don't believe it was one or the other. I think they'd do both if the opportunity arose. Waller plays TE, Jeudy plays WR and both positions are really weak.
Hopkins will not cost a 1 and possible we can even get him with a 3. Do we have the room to add his contract though?
To be fair, he’s had dogshit at QB until Russ showed up…and then played like dogshit.
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Glad the Giants decided to go with a 3rd for Waller over the price for Jeudy.
I don't believe it was one or the other. I think they'd do both if the opportunity arose. Waller plays TE, Jeudy plays WR and both positions are really weak.
Hopkins will not cost a 1 and possible we can even get him with a 3. Do we have the room to add his contract though?
I think there will be a lot of competition for Hopkins at the price of a 3rd, but I am all for it. They can def fit him in with some maneuvering, but it would be a lot easier with an extension for Hopkins.
most likely. claypool brought back the 32nd pick from the bears and he's not as good as jeudy so i would imagine they had 2nd round picks on the table and passed. and then jeudy played his best football down the stretch in the last few games after they dumped hackett.
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most likely. claypool brought back the 32nd pick from the bears and he's not as good as jeudy so i would imagine they had 2nd round picks on the table and passed. and then jeudy played his best football down the stretch in the last few games after they dumped hackett.
stupid AF move for chicago first pick in 2nd rd they could trade that down a few spots and pick up a #3 also panic move
Whether Denver can be moved off that price remains to be seen.
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Glad the Giants decided to go with a 3rd for Waller over the price for Jeudy.
I don't believe it was one or the other. I think they'd do both if the opportunity arose. Waller plays TE, Jeudy plays WR and both positions are really weak.
Hopkins will not cost a 1 and possible we can even get him with a 3. Do we have the room to add his contract though?
I think there will be a lot of competition for Hopkins at the price of a 3rd, but I am all for it. They can def fit him in with some maneuvering, but it would be a lot easier with an extension for Hopkins.
If we can swing Hopkins for a 3 and a 5 that would be incredible. We could then use one of our top 2 picks on a quick separator like JSN, Addison, Flowers, or in round 2 guys like Tyler Scott or Josh Downs. Round 1 could be the CB or the OL.
This. The trade for Waller is likely the only one they’ll make. The rest of the draft capital will be probably be spent in the draft.
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hasn't lived up to his own 1st round draft position. Now they want a brand new one for him?
To be fair, he’s had dogshit at QB until Russ showed up…and then played like dogshit.
I said the same yesterday.
Which makes Jeudy an interesting idea for teams looking to upgrade WR.
If the ask is a first +, this begs the question: why would Denver trade their WR1 if they value him so highly?
I can only conclude they actually don't, and will come off that ask. And quickly.
Technically he's not untouchable, but if they were actively shopping him their demands would be lower.
Whether Denver can be moved off that price remains to be seen.
However he's not exactly AJ Brown, Diggs or Tyreke Hill either. Personally, I think a 2 and a 4 or a 2 and a 2024 3rd should be enough for Jeudy.
player B age 23 season - 15g, 100 targets, 67 recepts, 972 yards (14 ypc), 6 tds
one of them is jeudy, both of the seasons above were to that point the respective players best seasons, neither had made a pro bowl yet.
Since Rodgers is bringing his crew over and the Jets are going to need some draft capital?
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teams don't just give away productive former first rounders that are still in their early earning years. Jeudy hasn't been great but he sure as hell hasn't been subpar either.
Whether Denver can be moved off that price remains to be seen.
However he's not exactly AJ Brown, Diggs or Tyreke Hill either. Personally, I think a 2 and a 4 or a 2 and a 2024 3rd should be enough for Jeudy.
Yep, agreed. Brown was due a big contract. Philly traded for and then signed him to the monster deal. Jeudy has the one more extra year, for whatever that is worth. Also, Philly traded the 1st and 3rd for Brown.
But Jeudy is definitely not in their class, and probably never will be.
Since Rodgers is bringing his crew over and the Jets are going to need some draft capital?
YEs and the Jets aint dealing Wilson so forget it
it's why the waller trade was so good
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he's their best wr, he's only about to turn 24, he's cheap this year and reasonable next year (5yo). they only save like 2m trading him and it opens up a big hole so why do it if it doesn't bring back a 1st?
Why do it at all? The whole thing perplexes me. It's not like he's demanding a trade and as you say, he is cost-friendly. I guess Payton just wants more draft picks to put his stamp on the team (they are without first and second round picks).
They were taking offers before Payton. But I agree, there’s no incentive for them to trade him outside of a big haul. And no one should give it to them.
Quote: Time for the clamor for him here to die down already. We'll get our own number one at # 25./////
This.
"This" is absurd. Neither JS nor certainly you (or Spider) have any idea who will be available when it comes to our turn to pick at 25. Whatever WR is there may be a row or three below JS's and BB's BPA at that point. Denver has its own mess to fix and doesn't want to sell low.
player B age 23 season - 15g, 100 targets, 67 recepts, 972 yards (14 ypc), 6 tds
one of them is jeudy, both of the seasons above were to that point the respective players best seasons, neither had made a pro bowl yet.
A: Diggs
B: Jeudy
I wouldn't trade a two and a four or even a two for Jeudy. His contract is reasonable this year but balloons to nearly $13M for his fifth year option in 2024. Plenty of WRs excel in their first year. It's up to our scouts to find them, especially since this draft is loaded at that position.
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player A age 26 season - 15g, 93 targets, 63 recepts, 1130 yards (17 ypc), 6 tds
player B age 23 season - 15g, 100 targets, 67 recepts, 972 yards (14 ypc), 6 tds
one of them is jeudy, both of the seasons above were to that point the respective players best seasons, neither had made a pro bowl yet.
A: Diggs
B: Jeudy
correct. hollywood brown 2 years ago ahead of his trade to AZ is pretty close too.
age 24, 16g, 146 targets, 91 recepts, 1008 yards (11 ypc), 6 tds.
player B age 23 season - 15g, 100 targets, 67 recepts, 972 yards (14 ypc), 6 tds
one of them is jeudy, both of the seasons above were to that point the respective players best seasons, neither had made a pro bowl yet.
You can also compare both players with Teddy Bridgewater as their QB if you want to...
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Hopkins is a much better option since he can likely be had with similar compensation as the Amari Cooper trade last year between the Cowboys and Browns: two fifths and a sixth round swap.
If they can't get DHop for this type of trade, then Corey Davis would be a very good alternative when he becomes a free agent once he is Jet-tisoned.
Money matters. Jeudy is cost controlled through 2023 only and will be owed at least $12mm in 2024 (5th y option). So you’re giving away a high draft pick for the right to give someone a lot of money.
Hopkins is a much better option since he can likely be had with similar compensation as the Amari Cooper trade last year between the Cowboys and Browns: two fifths and a sixth round swap.
If they can't get DHop for this type of trade, then Corey Davis would be a very good alternative when he becomes a free agent once he is Jet-tisoned.
So trade for an over 30 Hopkins and assume his $35 million or so left(?) on his contract?
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These four rookie contracts, especially in the context of the DJ contract, are way too important to this team now. Jeudy not worth giving any of these four picks.
Hopkins is a much better option since he can likely be had with similar compensation as the Amari Cooper trade last year between the Cowboys and Browns: two fifths and a sixth round swap.
If they can't get DHop for this type of trade, then Corey Davis would be a very good alternative when he becomes a free agent once he is Jet-tisoned.
So trade for an over 30 Hopkins and assume his $35 million or so left(?) on his contract?
I am not worried about his age whatsoever. He is in peak shape and basically had most of last year off. Plaxico was at his best between 2008-2011 when he was 31-34. The price is the cost of doing business if you want an elite receiver. JuJu Smith-Schuster just got roughly that amount from the Patriots and he is far from elite. DHop's cost is frankly a steal.
And to me there is no comparison between Hopkins and Jeudy. One is a top five NFL wide receiver and future hall of famer and the other is an oft injured above average talent who has yet to live up to his potential.
maybe there's an unexpected price drop but i think they made their choice in the aging/expensive/upside veteran category.
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These four rookie contracts, especially in the context of the DJ contract, are way too important to this team now. Jeudy not worth giving any of these four picks.
Hopkins is a much better option since he can likely be had with similar compensation as the Amari Cooper trade last year between the Cowboys and Browns: two fifths and a sixth round swap.
If they can't get DHop for this type of trade, then Corey Davis would be a very good alternative when he becomes a free agent once he is Jet-tisoned.
So trade for an over 30 Hopkins and assume his $35 million or so left(?) on his contract?
I am not worried about his age whatsoever. He is in peak shape and basically had most of last year off. Plaxico was at his best between 2008-2011 when he was 31-34. The price is the cost of doing business if you want an elite receiver. JuJu Smith-Schuster just got roughly that amount from the Patriots and he is far from elite. DHop's cost is frankly a steal.
And to me there is no comparison between Hopkins and Jeudy. One is a top five NFL wide receiver and future hall of famer and the other is an oft injured above average talent who has yet to live up to his potential.
One can argue that the price is way below what it should be for an elite WR. Elite WR's are vital in todays NFL and we could get one for a 2nd or 3rd??? Not only that, we can get him on a favorable contract(Arizona already paid the SB). No brainer.
This is why I would trade for Hop. But we don't know for sure if Hop wants a new contract. Hate talking about the money, but yea it can be a factor if we're debating over which WR to deal for. If I knew Hop was good with his current deal i'd be all over him right now. At that contract he's a bargain.
Plus they want out of the contract so he probably costs a 3. Can we afford the big contract though with all the things we may still want to do? I love the idea of Hopkins on this team. He still has it.
Hopkins
Waller
Hodgins
1st or 2nd rd WR
Bellinger
Robinson
James
Johnson
Washington
Transformed WR/TE room
But not sure I want Schoen to give up that much either, as the crowd says
Jeudy is ok. HE's still young and came into the NFL as a gifted route runner. Maybe he develops into another Reggie Wayne or pro bowl player but he is now 3 full years into his NFL career and he still isn't there.
If I am Denver I am not trading this guy unless I am damn sure he's a finished product or more trouble than he's worth. Seems concerning to me that he's on the block. Why.
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These four rookie contracts, especially in the context of the DJ contract, are way too important to this team now. Jeudy not worth giving any of these four picks.
Hopkins is a much better option since he can likely be had with similar compensation as the Amari Cooper trade last year between the Cowboys and Browns: two fifths and a sixth round swap.
If they can't get DHop for this type of trade, then Corey Davis would be a very good alternative when he becomes a free agent once he is Jet-tisoned.
So trade for an over 30 Hopkins and assume his $35 million or so left(?) on his contract?
I am not worried about his age whatsoever. He is in peak shape and basically had most of last year off. Plaxico was at his best between 2008-2011 when he was 31-34. The price is the cost of doing business if you want an elite receiver. JuJu Smith-Schuster just got roughly that amount from the Patriots and he is far from elite. DHop's cost is frankly a steal.
And to me there is no comparison between Hopkins and Jeudy. One is a top five NFL wide receiver and future hall of famer and the other is an oft injured above average talent who has yet to live up to his potential.
One can argue that the price is way below what it should be for an elite WR. Elite WR's are vital in todays NFL and we could get one for a 2nd or 3rd??? Not only that, we can get him on a favorable contract(Arizona already paid the SB). No brainer.
Kmed, that’s assuming he’s still considered elite. I guess we’ll find out soon enough
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These four rookie contracts, especially in the context of the DJ contract, are way too important to this team now. Jeudy not worth giving any of these four picks.
Hopkins is a much better option since he can likely be had with similar compensation as the Amari Cooper trade last year between the Cowboys and Browns: two fifths and a sixth round swap.
If they can't get DHop for this type of trade, then Corey Davis would be a very good alternative when he becomes a free agent once he is Jet-tisoned.
So trade for an over 30 Hopkins and assume his $35 million or so left(?) on his contract?
I'd keep those 4 picks and leave Hopkins where he is. Draft a WR, two if you can find value. Don't forget, after the draft a bunch of guys are going to be released. Happens every year.
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These four rookie contracts, especially in the context of the DJ contract, are way too important to this team now. Jeudy not worth giving any of these four picks.
Hopkins is a much better option since he can likely be had with similar compensation as the Amari Cooper trade last year between the Cowboys and Browns: two fifths and a sixth round swap.
If they can't get DHop for this type of trade, then Corey Davis would be a very good alternative when he becomes a free agent once he is Jet-tisoned.
So trade for an over 30 Hopkins and assume his $35 million or so left(?) on his contract?
I am not worried about his age whatsoever. He is in peak shape and basically had most of last year off. Plaxico was at his best between 2008-2011 when he was 31-34. The price is the cost of doing business if you want an elite receiver. JuJu Smith-Schuster just got roughly that amount from the Patriots and he is far from elite. DHop's cost is frankly a steal.
And to me there is no comparison between Hopkins and Jeudy. One is a top five NFL wide receiver and future hall of famer and the other is an oft injured above average talent who has yet to live up to his potential.
One can argue that the price is way below what it should be for an elite WR. Elite WR's are vital in todays NFL and we could get one for a 2nd or 3rd??? Not only that, we can get him on a favorable contract(Arizona already paid the SB). No brainer.
Kmed, that’s assuming he’s still considered elite. I guess we’ll find out soon enough
He was still elite last year. If you take is numbers for half a year, he was the same guy hes always been. 110/1400
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Quote: Time for the clamor for him here to die down already. We'll get our own number one at # 25./////
This.
"This" is absurd. Neither JS nor certainly you (or Spider) have any idea who will be available when it comes to our turn to pick at 25. Whatever WR is there may be a row or three below JS's and BB's BPA at that point. Denver has its own mess to fix and doesn't want to sell low.
Ok. Sure.
Hopkins has averaged 12.2 in 2020, 13.6 and finally 11.2 in 2022 when the entire team quit and I was the QB. Hop had 17 TDs these last 3 years. Jeudy had 9. Both Wrs missed time.
To me the safer and better option is Hopkins. And you're probably not on the hook for as much long term money because let's be honest, if NYG trade for Jeudy he will want a new deal this time next year.
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These four rookie contracts, especially in the context of the DJ contract, are way too important to this team now. Jeudy not worth giving any of these four picks.
Hopkins is a much better option since he can likely be had with similar compensation as the Amari Cooper trade last year between the Cowboys and Browns: two fifths and a sixth round swap.
If they can't get DHop for this type of trade, then Corey Davis would be a very good alternative when he becomes a free agent once he is Jet-tisoned.
So trade for an over 30 Hopkins and assume his $35 million or so left(?) on his contract?
I am not worried about his age whatsoever. He is in peak shape and basically had most of last year off. Plaxico was at his best between 2008-2011 when he was 31-34. The price is the cost of doing business if you want an elite receiver. JuJu Smith-Schuster just got roughly that amount from the Patriots and he is far from elite. DHop's cost is frankly a steal.
And to me there is no comparison between Hopkins and Jeudy. One is a top five NFL wide receiver and future hall of famer and the other is an oft injured above average talent who has yet to live up to his potential.
One can argue that the price is way below what it should be for an elite WR. Elite WR's are vital in todays NFL and we could get one for a 2nd or 3rd??? Not only that, we can get him on a favorable contract(Arizona already paid the SB). No brainer.
Kmed, that’s assuming he’s still considered elite. I guess we’ll find out soon enough
He was still elite last year. If you take is numbers for half a year, he was the same guy hes always been. 110/1400
Except he didn’t put up those numbers. Because he was suspend for PED use. Why was he using PEDs? Because he’s getting older. No thank you.
I think Dabes would love a Type A, as long as he wasn’t a media whore like OBJ, imv
Worse case the sign the best FA available. Hopkins, OBJ, etc.
See how the draft falls but don't reach. Rather get a impact D guy than a questionable WR.
Sometimes you just have to be better somewhere else as you are building your roster.
Great D and balanced O will win a lot of games. At some point they will need a true number one.
#nodeal
Jeudy is ok. HE's still young and came into the NFL as a gifted route runner. Maybe he develops into another Reggie Wayne or pro bowl player but he is now 3 full years into his NFL career and he still isn't there.
If I am Denver I am not trading this guy unless I am damn sure he's a finished product or more trouble than he's worth. Seems concerning to me that he's on the block. Why.
It could be as simply as cap allocation. They have a ton of high cap players and are going to be in cap hell. His 5th year option would be $13m and they may not be able to pay that. Why not get something for him would be the thinking. Also, I wouldn't touch DHop at this point. He's at the back half of the career and he's going to be less effective just due to age. Let another organization deal with a high maintenance declining WR in their locker room. No thanks.
And he's on the other side of 30. But it's a legit point about his personality. This is a guy on track to be a first ballot HoFer and he's going to want the ball.
The good thing, too, is DH has been productive with great QBs, average QBs, and near garbage level QBs.
I could see something happening draft night
I wouldnt even trade a 2. I'd rather draft a player.
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they're like gold.
I wouldnt even trade a 2. I'd rather draft a player.
The Giants need an outside WR that can come in and be a factor right away. I personally think Jeudy is a safer bet than the WR that will be available at 25 and 57. Also, it allows for BPA in the draft instead of reaching for a WR.
And I'm not saying I love Jeudy. I definitely don't. He's not a #1 receiver. At least not yet. But you aren't getting him for a 3rd round pick. The Broncos will just keep him. They're not rebuilding. They're not against a wall.
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they're like gold.
I wouldnt even trade a 2. I'd rather draft a player.
The Giants need an outside WR that can come in and be a factor right away. I personally think Jeudy is a safer bet than the WR that will be available at 25 and 57. Also, it allows for BPA in the draft instead of reaching for a WR.
Maybe a safer bet because he's gonna be a 4 year vet, but the transition from college to the Pros isn't what it used to be. Plenty of WRs come in and make a big impact year 1.
For instance Zay Flowers. I think he can come in and be damn near a 1000 yard receiver as a rookie. Plus you'd have him under contract for cheap for 4 years + the option year. Compared to 1+1 from Jeudy. Also offers much more upside than Jeudy IMO. You kind of know what you are getting from Jeudy at this point.
Worse case the sign the best FA available. Hopkins, OBJ, etc.
See how the draft falls but don't reach. Rather get a impact D guy than a questionable WR.
Sometimes you just have to be better somewhere else as you are building your roster.
I agree. This
Great D and balanced O will win a lot of games. At some point they will need a true number one.
As an aside, I'm fascinated to see what Payton can do to revive Russ' career.
But he’s 30 😜
Trading Jeudy, who’s in the last year of his contract, is one of the few ways they have of lowering their payroll.
Every GM in the league knows this. I’m sure that’s why Schoen is circling. He’s smart and smells desperation.
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then I’m in
But he’s 30 😜
31, June 6th…😂
+1.
Plus, I’m not that into Jeudy. I can’t help but get hung up on a Monday night game the Broncos played in which Russell Wilson threw the ball to nobody and Troy Aikman pointed out how Jeudy was doing the wrong thing on option routes. Add that to him flipping out in a game and somehow avoiding an ejection and I don’t love what I’ve seen.
What's insane is that some people are attempting to argue that going into the season with Hodgins as our #1, god knows who else, and maybe a late 1st round WR in a weak WR draft is a wise decision.
Our line wasn't terrible last year, DJ can move to buy time. Giving a WR who can't get separation more time is not going to do much. Waller will be smashed in the middle if we don't have an outside guy who can be viewed as a threat.
They are absolutely working on a deal for a WR, it'd be a dereliction of duty if they weren't.
The Giants have to get significant help at one of the most important positions and unfortunately its not going to be in the FA market. Maybe it's a smaller trade for a guy like Corey Davis or maybe it's a big trade for a guy like Jeudy, but they will have to get creative to fill that room with NFL caliber players.
The Giants have to get significant help at one of the most important positions and unfortunately its not going to be in the FA market. Maybe it's a smaller trade for a guy like Corey Davis or maybe it's a big trade for a guy like Jeudy, but they will have to get creative to fill that room with NFL caliber players.
Plenty of WRs play well after being drafted. And just about anything improves the Giants WR talent.
As far as Denver asking for a #1 plus, they can ask anything they want. They do not have to move him so why would they "give" him away.
Players will be released in the coming weeks for salary reasons. Meantime, Schoen has to rework LW and Jackson's contracts to free up cap space.
10: Garrett Wilson(83/1100/4)
11: Chris Olave(72/1000/4)
12: Jameson Williams(1/41/1)
16: Jahan Dotson(35/523/7)
18: Treylon Burks(33/444/1)
34: Christian Watson((41/611/7)
43: Wandale Robinson(23/227/1)
44: John Metchie(0)
50: Tyquan Thornton(22/247/2)
52: George Pickens(52/801/4)
53: Alec Pierce(41/593/2)
54: Skyy Moore(22/250/0)
Not much after the top 10. Lotta guys that produced worse than Slayton on this list.
10: Garrett Wilson(83/1100/4)
11: Chris Olave(72/1000/4)
12: Jameson Williams(1/41/1)
16: Jahan Dotson(35/523/7)
18: Treylon Burks(33/444/1)
34: Christian Watson((41/611/7)
43: Wandale Robinson(23/227/1)
44: John Metchie(0)
50: Tyquan Thornton(22/247/2)
52: George Pickens(52/801/4)
53: Alec Pierce(41/593/2)
54: Skyy Moore(22/250/0)
Not much after the top 10. Lotta guys that produced worse than Slayton on this list.
there are 13 on that list and at least half it was definitively better than slayton day 1 and the ones that werent were mostly due to injuries.
london, wilson, olave, dotson, watson, pickens were all clearly better. like no questions.
when healthy robinson was trending better pre-acl. remember he also had missed time earlier in the year so his rookie year never got on track, and for the brief time he did he was looking like the best wr on the team.
burks, thornton, and pierce all had their moments but were held back by injuries and not just bad qb play, but literal practice squad level qb play. given the same number of targets i think all 3 would produce comparably to slayton.
williams (acl recovery) and metchie (cancer) are unknowns at this point.
the nyg need to add another veteran or two but im not giving slayton 5m+ on a multi-year deal. i just think he's a fatally flawed wr who shouldnt serve more than a depth role.
and in terms of production like i said at least 6 of them were better. some in fewer targets like dotson who put up 7 touchdowns in fewer targets. not his fault his team also had samuel and mclaurin.
i think we both feel the same way about slayton, dont want him back but if he's cheap it's fine. i have 0 concern about replacing him though.
slayton doesnt produce like a WR1 either so that's irrelevant.
christian watson, george pickens each went after 25.
burks and dotson each went pretty close to 25.
i'd be fine adding a player comparable to any of those 4 at 25 or in the 2nd round.
and on day 3 they have a bunch of picks and should probably double up. there were a bunch of wrs who contributed day 1 last year from day 3 - doubs, kyle phillips, shakur.
did you watch christian watson at all? the guy is one of the most explosive skill players in football already. after missing time in the first half of the year he came back and scored 8 touchdowns in the second half (9 total on the year) - most were long ones. his first target in the nfl week 1 would have been another td on a 70 or 80 yard walk in, which he famously dropped, and that set the narrative, but it was one he'd completely reversed by the end of the year.
slayton has 7 touchdowns in his last 3 years combined.
If Watson was on the Giants, he would have probably had half the production.
If Watson was on the Giants, he would have probably had half the production.
he had more tds on the year in his limited touches not thrown by rodgers (2 rushing tds and 1 63 yard td pass from love) than slayton had on the entire year with all his touches.