Dov Kleiman
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𝗨𝗣𝗗𝗔𝗧𝗘: The #Patriots have called the #Cardinals about trading for WR DeAndre Hopkins and the #Broncos about trading for WR Jerry Jeudy, per @jeffphowe
Dov Kleiman
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Denver is reportedly asking for "at least" a 1st round pick for Jeudy.
they only save like 2m trading him and it opens up a big hole so why do it if it doesn't bring back a 1st? maybe they cave and take a 2nd but that would be a bad move.
i think more likely they drop the price on sutton significantly at some point and some team that misses out on a WR in FA or draft takes a chance on him. id have much rathered have sutton with just 13m guaranteed left than signing allen lazard for what he got.
I don't believe it was one or the other. I think they'd do both if the opportunity arose. Waller plays TE, Jeudy plays WR and both positions are really weak.
yep walk away from that he needs to be paid next yr
and he is a wr2 with upside not a wr1
I look at it another way.
Denver sees the dearth of good FA WRs and thinks some team might overpay for him. They don't really want to trade Jeudy.
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Glad the Giants decided to go with a 3rd for Waller over the price for Jeudy.
I don't believe it was one or the other. I think they'd do both if the opportunity arose. Waller plays TE, Jeudy plays WR and both positions are really weak.
Hopkins will not cost a 1 and possible we can even get him with a 3. Do we have the room to add his contract though?
To be fair, he’s had dogshit at QB until Russ showed up…and then played like dogshit.
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Glad the Giants decided to go with a 3rd for Waller over the price for Jeudy.
I don't believe it was one or the other. I think they'd do both if the opportunity arose. Waller plays TE, Jeudy plays WR and both positions are really weak.
Hopkins will not cost a 1 and possible we can even get him with a 3. Do we have the room to add his contract though?
I think there will be a lot of competition for Hopkins at the price of a 3rd, but I am all for it. They can def fit him in with some maneuvering, but it would be a lot easier with an extension for Hopkins.
most likely. claypool brought back the 32nd pick from the bears and he's not as good as jeudy so i would imagine they had 2nd round picks on the table and passed. and then jeudy played his best football down the stretch in the last few games after they dumped hackett.
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most likely. claypool brought back the 32nd pick from the bears and he's not as good as jeudy so i would imagine they had 2nd round picks on the table and passed. and then jeudy played his best football down the stretch in the last few games after they dumped hackett.
stupid AF move for chicago first pick in 2nd rd they could trade that down a few spots and pick up a #3 also panic move
Whether Denver can be moved off that price remains to be seen.
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Glad the Giants decided to go with a 3rd for Waller over the price for Jeudy.
I don't believe it was one or the other. I think they'd do both if the opportunity arose. Waller plays TE, Jeudy plays WR and both positions are really weak.
Hopkins will not cost a 1 and possible we can even get him with a 3. Do we have the room to add his contract though?
I think there will be a lot of competition for Hopkins at the price of a 3rd, but I am all for it. They can def fit him in with some maneuvering, but it would be a lot easier with an extension for Hopkins.
If we can swing Hopkins for a 3 and a 5 that would be incredible. We could then use one of our top 2 picks on a quick separator like JSN, Addison, Flowers, or in round 2 guys like Tyler Scott or Josh Downs. Round 1 could be the CB or the OL.
This. The trade for Waller is likely the only one they’ll make. The rest of the draft capital will be probably be spent in the draft.
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hasn't lived up to his own 1st round draft position. Now they want a brand new one for him?
To be fair, he’s had dogshit at QB until Russ showed up…and then played like dogshit.
I said the same yesterday.
Which makes Jeudy an interesting idea for teams looking to upgrade WR.
If the ask is a first +, this begs the question: why would Denver trade their WR1 if they value him so highly?
I can only conclude they actually don't, and will come off that ask. And quickly.
Technically he's not untouchable, but if they were actively shopping him their demands would be lower.
Whether Denver can be moved off that price remains to be seen.
However he's not exactly AJ Brown, Diggs or Tyreke Hill either. Personally, I think a 2 and a 4 or a 2 and a 2024 3rd should be enough for Jeudy.
player B age 23 season - 15g, 100 targets, 67 recepts, 972 yards (14 ypc), 6 tds
one of them is jeudy, both of the seasons above were to that point the respective players best seasons, neither had made a pro bowl yet.
Since Rodgers is bringing his crew over and the Jets are going to need some draft capital?
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teams don't just give away productive former first rounders that are still in their early earning years. Jeudy hasn't been great but he sure as hell hasn't been subpar either.
Whether Denver can be moved off that price remains to be seen.
However he's not exactly AJ Brown, Diggs or Tyreke Hill either. Personally, I think a 2 and a 4 or a 2 and a 2024 3rd should be enough for Jeudy.
Yep, agreed. Brown was due a big contract. Philly traded for and then signed him to the monster deal. Jeudy has the one more extra year, for whatever that is worth. Also, Philly traded the 1st and 3rd for Brown.
But Jeudy is definitely not in their class, and probably never will be.
Since Rodgers is bringing his crew over and the Jets are going to need some draft capital?
YEs and the Jets aint dealing Wilson so forget it
it's why the waller trade was so good
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he's their best wr, he's only about to turn 24, he's cheap this year and reasonable next year (5yo). they only save like 2m trading him and it opens up a big hole so why do it if it doesn't bring back a 1st?
Why do it at all? The whole thing perplexes me. It's not like he's demanding a trade and as you say, he is cost-friendly. I guess Payton just wants more draft picks to put his stamp on the team (they are without first and second round picks).
They were taking offers before Payton. But I agree, there’s no incentive for them to trade him outside of a big haul. And no one should give it to them.
Quote: Time for the clamor for him here to die down already. We'll get our own number one at # 25./////
This.
"This" is absurd. Neither JS nor certainly you (or Spider) have any idea who will be available when it comes to our turn to pick at 25. Whatever WR is there may be a row or three below JS's and BB's BPA at that point. Denver has its own mess to fix and doesn't want to sell low.
player B age 23 season - 15g, 100 targets, 67 recepts, 972 yards (14 ypc), 6 tds
one of them is jeudy, both of the seasons above were to that point the respective players best seasons, neither had made a pro bowl yet.
A: Diggs
B: Jeudy
I wouldn't trade a two and a four or even a two for Jeudy. His contract is reasonable this year but balloons to nearly $13M for his fifth year option in 2024. Plenty of WRs excel in their first year. It's up to our scouts to find them, especially since this draft is loaded at that position.
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player A age 26 season - 15g, 93 targets, 63 recepts, 1130 yards (17 ypc), 6 tds
player B age 23 season - 15g, 100 targets, 67 recepts, 972 yards (14 ypc), 6 tds
one of them is jeudy, both of the seasons above were to that point the respective players best seasons, neither had made a pro bowl yet.
A: Diggs
B: Jeudy
correct. hollywood brown 2 years ago ahead of his trade to AZ is pretty close too.
age 24, 16g, 146 targets, 91 recepts, 1008 yards (11 ypc), 6 tds.
player B age 23 season - 15g, 100 targets, 67 recepts, 972 yards (14 ypc), 6 tds
one of them is jeudy, both of the seasons above were to that point the respective players best seasons, neither had made a pro bowl yet.
You can also compare both players with Teddy Bridgewater as their QB if you want to...
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