Per Schefter: Julian Love visiting Seahawks Thurs.

He’s a guy I’d hoped we’d keep.

In comment 16066284 George said:

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He’s a guy I’d hoped we’d keep.

+1

hopefully by SEA as well

but we’d be fine if he leaves.

How could they not fall in love with him.

I heard on the NFL network that Love has indicated that he would like to sign with a team that plays in a state with reasonable cost of living and no state income tax.

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to roll the dice with Pinnock and Belton. Have to save money in some places.

[quote] Going to roll the dice with Pinnock and Belton. Have to save money in some places.“ [\quote]

I’m fine with this as well. Let him come back with offer. However, all his comments seem to be about him chasing the money than caring about playing for the Giants.

In comment 16066332 WinterIsComing said:

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[quote] Going to roll the dice with Pinnock and Belton. Have to save money in some places.“ [\quote] I’m fine with this as well. Let him come back with offer. However, all his comments seem to be about him chasing the money than caring about playing for the Giants.

as he should be looking out for himself.

of other players I don't think we have the cap space to sign him.

He’s a good character guy and a solid player. But safety is not a position to blow up the cap numbers. If he gets a big offer elsewhere, then good luck to him.

Dan Duggan
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Seems like the door is closed on Love returning to the Giants

15.5 cap currently, and also will meet with Devin Bush.
They can make minor moves to sign both.
They also have 4 picks in the top 52, including #s 5&20.

Love is not a guy you want to overpay.

But I wouldn't be surprised if they drafted one again. It's a fairly deep class.

I hate to lose him but can’t blame him for wanting the $$. It’s a different game that 20 years ago.

I'm sure he is a guy Carroll wants/would like, smart with decent instincts. Hope he gets a nice deal.

But marginally, I keep saying it, Love is a rotational defensive back/depth safety.

and its a bummer if we miss out on him. I guess this came down to Love vs the ILB we signed? Really sucks our cap wasn't in a better situation.

but McKinney is the guy we really have to hold on to.

In comment 16066314 Hilary said:

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I heard on the NFL network that Love has indicated that he would like to sign with a team that plays in a state with reasonable cost of living and no state income tax.

Thats not Seattle. Try Florida or Tennessee

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In comment 16066332 WinterIsComing said:

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[quote] Going to roll the dice with Pinnock and Belton. Have to save money in some places.“ [\quote] I’m fine with this as well. Let him come back with offer. However, all his comments seem to be about him chasing the money than caring about playing for the Giants.

You are such a mark.

Is a better athlete than Love. He’s a former college corner like Love, that just needs time to get acclimated to safety. He’ll be fine.

Love is a fine player and I wish him well, but he’s not a guy that you have to have back.

Art Stapleton
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Julian Love is visiting the Seahawks today, according to
@AdamSchefter
. Get the sense Love and Giants are exploring other options at this point. We'll see if there is a chance they circle back, but for now, sounds like chances for a reunion are fading.

Geno Stone and look at the Draft as well.

unfortunately hurt Love's bargaining position. I think they may view Pinnock as a capable replacement and Mckinney as the S to pay. We'll see how it shakes out.

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but can't overpay for good players

especially when you look at the contracts being handed out. NYG has bigger fish to fry in-house, and it sounds like Love's set his sights on more money and a place with a lower cost of living and tax.

The kind of player you enjoy being on your team. But I get the feeling Giants are confident Pinnock and Belton can transition into that slot with no drop off in production; maybe even an upgrade

don't blame him or any other player for getting as much as they can. I hope we can still resign him, but wish him the best if he leaves. He has played very well for us IMO, but we do have Pinnock, Belton, and McKinney.

Unfortunately, as it limits his upside. Hopefully, he discovers the Giants are his best option but doesn’t sound promising.

In comment 16066400 Jim in Forest Hills said:

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unfortunately hurt Love's bargaining position. I think they may view Pinnock as a capable replacement and Mckinney as the S to pay. We'll see how it shakes out.

I think this is the key. Assuming we re-sign McKinney to a decent size contract next year it is probably cap prohibitive to sign the other safety to a significant deal as well. Especially when you have large contract extensions coming for Dex and Thomas.

Love has been asking for more than that.
Based upon what the beat reporters have been sharing, it sounds like the Giants have been in more like the $5M/yr range, with Love asking for as much as $10M (at one point).

I'd like to have Love back, but he's not better than Bell nor Poyer and the Giants can't pay everyone like a top line starter.
Hopefully they have a plan B ready to go.

and then have to sign McKinney the next year. You can draft someone that can do what Love does.

good enough to replace guys you can't afford to overpay to keep

taylor rapp is the most experienced, he's currently visiting NE. jaquan johnson from buffalo is another more under the radar player who would compliment pinnock/belton.

i want love back but the market is what it is, if he wants more im not sure that deal is out there.

In comment 16066464 blueblood said:

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and then have to sign McKinney the next year. You can draft someone that can do what Love does.

They may have the answer already on the roster. Belton played well late last season and Pinnock was solid as well.

Wink's been very open about the fact he wants speed everywhere.

He said last year "If you've got a slow MIKE linebacker, you've got a slow defense."

The same applies to the S position.

We got run off the field by the Eagles and Cowboys WRs. Gotta match their speed. Love's a good guy and a solid ball player but he doesn't fit Wink's vision.

Pinnock was a good pickup and they drafted Dane Belton in the 4th last year as a potential replacement. They both have good upside.

mostly through the draft. You have to let some of the players that were drafted go and not overpay.

The task now is to find a better replacement in the draft or hope what they have on the roster achieves this for now.

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In comment 16066481 eric2425ny said:

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In comment 16066464 blueblood said: Quote: and then have to sign McKinney the next year. You can draft someone that can do what Love does. They may have the answer already on the roster. Belton played well late last season and Pinnock was solid as well.

agreed

but Giants made him an extension offer during the bye week and tried again before free agency. It's clear he's asking for more than the Giants want to give him, and we probably have bigger needs than safety so have to allocate the money elsewhere.

In comment 16066314 Hilary said:

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I heard on the NFL network that Love has indicated that he would like to sign with a team that plays in a state with reasonable cost of living and no state income tax.

And fans wonder why NY and other big city/hub teams always seem to "overpay."

In comment 16066539 djm said:

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In comment 16066314 Hilary said: Quote: I heard on the NFL network that Love has indicated that he would like to sign with a team that plays in a state with reasonable cost of living and no state income tax. And fans wonder why NY and other big city/hub teams always seem to "overpay."

Don't athletes pay taxes based on the states they are playing in on a week by week basis rather than where they live? "Jock tax" it's called. They would obviously still save money by playing 8 games in a lower tax state but not as drastic as it being over a full year.

...I'd say he's worth is in the $6 million/year range.

The Giants shouldn't pay more than that, and definitely not something approaching $10 million.

It's unfortunate that he is pricing himself out of here, because I like him.

Don't they have one of the highest-paid safety duos in the NFL, with Adams and Diggs? Adams still has a ways to go in his rehab from quad surgery, but the Seahawks are still counting on him for this year, and the dead money on both safeties pretty much locks them in for this year.

I guess Love could be a safety/nickel swing man and insurance this year, then take over from one of the incumbents in 2024. Seems like a big investment for a team that doesn't have an immediate need at safety. Maybe his price is lower than we thought.