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The Aaron Rodgers wait is getting old and could get older

GeofromNJ : 3/16/2023 8:50 am
Green Bay is playing hard ball. Rodgers current 3-year contract includes a $58.3 million bonus that is due no later than Week one of the 2023 season. Clearly the Packers want to move Rodgers before then, otherwise they have to pay him. However, they have until week one to move him, and for this reason, they may hold up the trade for several months, hoping the Jets will relent and offer more compensation under the assumption that the Jets want Rodgers in preseason camp. With luck, WFAN and ESPN NY will find something else to talk about between now and whenever Green Bay decides to take the Jets offer.
I would thnk  
section125 : 3/16/2023 8:52 am : link
$58.3 mill is enough reason to move him within the week...
The Jets are so dumb  
eric2425ny : 3/16/2023 8:53 am : link
Rodgers doesn’t have much left in the tank. They should just trade up and draft another QB.
RE: The Jets are so dumb  
Jay on the Island : 3/16/2023 9:03 am : link
In comment 16066396 eric2425ny said:
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Rodgers doesn’t have much left in the tank. They should just trade up and draft another QB.

After going 0-3 with Sanchez, Darnold, and Wilson I think they should definitely not trade up again for a QB. Also the Panthers and Texans have the top two picks and will take QB’s so the Jets will be stuck to chose the 3rd best quarterback.
RE: I would thnk  
nygiants16 : 3/16/2023 9:03 am : link
In comment 16066395 section125 said:
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$58.3 mill is enough reason to move him within the week...


its not 58 million until september..

and the dead cap hit lowers after June 1st, packers have no reason to do the trade now
RE: The Jets are so dumb  
nygiants16 : 3/16/2023 9:04 am : link
In comment 16066396 eric2425ny said:
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Rodgers doesn’t have much left in the tank. They should just trade up and draft another QB.


The GM is desperate to save his job, but dont tell that to Jets fans because to them he is a god
RE: The Jets are so dumb  
UConn4523 : 3/16/2023 9:05 am : link
In comment 16066396 eric2425ny said:
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Rodgers doesn’t have much left in the tank. They should just trade up and draft another QB.


You can’t just magically trade up. And while Rodgers is on the downturn he’s infinitely better than what they’ve had in years and if they play this right they may not have to give up a premium.

This will come down to who feels the pain first - he packers and their cap issues or the Jets and not having anyone at the most important position in sports and a HC/GM likely on the hot seat if they shit the bed this year.

Fascinating situation IMO.
"With luck, WFAN and ESPN NY will find something else to talk about"  
Ron Johnson : 3/16/2023 9:05 am : link
That just isn't going to happen. Even after the trade they won't stop. ESPN is the Aaron Rodgers channel. Rodgers and Lebron James.
Do you think  
Blueworm : 3/16/2023 9:08 am : link
He wants a whole training camp nowadays?

This could go for a bit.
RE: Do you think  
UConn4523 : 3/16/2023 9:11 am : link
In comment 16066415 Blueworm said:
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He wants a whole training camp nowadays?

This could go for a bit.


It’s not his decision. The Jets are giving up picks and a ton of money, they want him wi the his team ASAP.
Rodgers is getting old too. And his act is ancient.  
Victor in CT : 3/16/2023 9:13 am : link
And the joke is they won't win with him anyway.
He said on McAfee’s show  
Drewcon40 : 3/16/2023 9:14 am : link
He was 90% leaning retirement going into his retreat and because of what he heard how the Packers handled it, he changed. I can’t stand that fanbase - just his announcement alone has these idiots giddy.

Of course they stack up the season we play them but you guys have been logical. Schoen will fly under the radar - while Douglas will be getting roses thrown at him for this genius move. I really wanted to hear that douche Tierney have to eat his words, now I need to boycott sports radio ( a good thing probably).

I hope Green Bay fleeces the Jets.
Jets are desperate now  
averagejoe : 3/16/2023 9:15 am : link
Packers will not be desperate until August. This is a Joe Douglas Hail Mary to save his job. Genius Joe is 20-45 and is spending 100M to correct his 38M mistake named Zach Wilson. GB should insist on 2 ones until at least July...lol...
He was quoted yesterday as saying he was 90% retired before he  
Spider56 : 3/16/2023 9:33 am : link
‘went into the dark’... contrast that with our guy who’s constantly in the building working out... Who would you rather have as your starting QB next year?
I think the Jets have the upper hand...  
DefenseWins : 3/16/2023 9:39 am : link
they dont have to go with Rodgers. Meanwhile, Green Bay already committed to dumping Rodgers publicly so that train has left the station. If there is nobody else offering a trade then they almost have to take what the Jets are offering.
Still a 3-way game of chicken  
Bob in Newburgh : 3/16/2023 9:44 am : link
If Rogers retires, Packers get nothing.

If Rogers retires, ZW becomes the best option for Jets. Think of the ramifications there.

If Rogers retires, Rogers gets nothing. And yes I know he can afford to, but greed is a historical motivator.
RE: I think the Jets have the upper hand...  
jeff57 : 3/16/2023 9:44 am : link
In comment 16066458 DefenseWins said:
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they dont have to go with Rodgers. Meanwhile, Green Bay already committed to dumping Rodgers publicly so that train has left the station. If there is nobody else offering a trade then they almost have to take what the Jets are offering.


Who are they going to go with then? Zach Wilson? Matt Ryan?
RE: I think the Jets have the upper hand...  
BigBlueShock : 3/16/2023 9:45 am : link
In comment 16066458 DefenseWins said:
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they dont have to go with Rodgers. Meanwhile, Green Bay already committed to dumping Rodgers publicly so that train has left the station. If there is nobody else offering a trade then they almost have to take what the Jets are offering.

The Jets have no other options at this point. Unless they are going to sell their fanbase on a Ryan Tannehill after being serenaded by Aaron Rodgers. There is no turning back now for them. Their other options signed elsewhere
The Jets can turn to Jackson  
UConn4523 : 3/16/2023 9:46 am : link
but that’s going to be infinitely more expensive.
RE: He was quoted yesterday as saying he was 90% retired before he  
Blueworm : 3/16/2023 9:49 am : link
In comment 16066450 Spider56 said:
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‘went into the dark’... contrast that with our guy who’s constantly in the building working out... Who would you rather have as your starting QB next year?


Whoever can throw for 40TD next year.
Who  
NYG123 : 3/16/2023 9:49 am : link
Cares!!!
The attention whore  
Drewcon40 : 3/16/2023 10:00 am : link
Jets never got to announce Rodgers coming so they could also wait - they love the attention.
The “news” yesterday got spun so poorly  
Shecky : 3/16/2023 10:05 am : link
How is GB over the barrel here? They are literally the only ones that have an ounce of control of anything here. Of all three parties involved, they control the destiny.

Jets can’t do anything until it’s resolved. Their two options are offer Lamar Jackson a deal, costs 2 firsts, a TON of guaranteed money, and they will be in limbo until Ravens match or decline. Great qb option, but horrible secondary circumstances.

Jets can hope this motivated Wilson and he turns around his career. Possible, but not likely what you want to bet a season on.

There are no other FA, trade or internal options left. And they won’t be able to draft a day one starter either.

Rodgers is under contract. He can say and do whatever he wants. He can retire, but odds are he wants the money. I also don’t think anyone buys his story. He wasn’t close to retiring. He is just trying to spin the Packers as kicking him out rather than him quitting on the franchise. It’s his same old story with him. But he either retires, plays for the Packers, or plays for the team the Packers trade him too. He has next to no control.

Packers are stuck holding cap space for him whether or not he plays or retires. Sure it would suck for him to retire and they get nothing. But is it really worth giving in and moving him for such a poor return? Especially when they hold all the cards? They can hold out for five first rounders and there is nothing Rodgers or the Jets can do about it. If all the Jets want to offer is a second rounder, and that’s where Rodgers wants to go. I am SURE there are other teams that will match that offer at some point.

You don’t think Pats wouldn’t send Jones and a first for Rodgers? Dolphins? There’s a ton of teams that can maneuver in if they want to. Packers have full control, and this will not resolve itself until the Jets and/Rodgers give in.
I agree  
Gogiantsgo : 3/16/2023 10:36 am : link
With how GB is playing this. Why the hell should they consent to a subpar offer from the Jets? Getting Rodgers into Jets training camp is very important to NY. GB should absolutely hold out for a better offer. They have other trading options as well. If I were the GB GM, I would slow play this. Jets are going to get desperate WAYYYY before Green Bay does. Now I wouldn't expect 3 first rounders, but a first and a couple of seconds is very fair.
The ideal resolution to this situation  
Spiciest Memelord : 3/16/2023 11:12 am : link
is somehow both GB and Jets getting royally f***ed by Rogers.
RE: Who  
UConn4523 : 3/16/2023 11:13 am : link
In comment 16066470 NYG123 said:
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Cares!!!


Tons of people.
RE: RE: I think the Jets have the upper hand...  
Spiciest Memelord : 3/16/2023 11:15 am : link
In comment 16066463 jeff57 said:
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In comment 16066458 DefenseWins said:


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they dont have to go with Rodgers. Meanwhile, Green Bay already committed to dumping Rodgers publicly so that train has left the station. If there is nobody else offering a trade then they almost have to take what the Jets are offering.



Who are they going to go with then? Zach Wilson? Matt Ryan?


Glad we have our QB and not facing this drama while shopping desperately hungry.
RE: The “news” yesterday got spun so poorly  
NINEster : 3/16/2023 11:17 am : link
In comment 16066496 Shecky said:
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How is GB over the barrel here? They are literally the only ones that have an ounce of control of anything here. Of all three parties involved, they control the destiny.

Jets can’t do anything until it’s resolved. Their two options are offer Lamar Jackson a deal, costs 2 firsts, a TON of guaranteed money, and they will be in limbo until Ravens match or decline. Great qb option, but horrible secondary circumstances.

Jets can hope this motivated Wilson and he turns around his career. Possible, but not likely what you want to bet a season on.

There are no other FA, trade or internal options left. And they won’t be able to draft a day one starter either.

Rodgers is under contract. He can say and do whatever he wants. He can retire, but odds are he wants the money. I also don’t think anyone buys his story. He wasn’t close to retiring. He is just trying to spin the Packers as kicking him out rather than him quitting on the franchise. It’s his same old story with him. But he either retires, plays for the Packers, or plays for the team the Packers trade him too. He has next to no control.

Packers are stuck holding cap space for him whether or not he plays or retires. Sure it would suck for him to retire and they get nothing. But is it really worth giving in and moving him for such a poor return? Especially when they hold all the cards? They can hold out for five first rounders and there is nothing Rodgers or the Jets can do about it. If all the Jets want to offer is a second rounder, and that’s where Rodgers wants to go. I am SURE there are other teams that will match that offer at some point.

You don’t think Pats wouldn’t send Jones and a first for Rodgers? Dolphins? There’s a ton of teams that can maneuver in if they want to. Packers have full control, and this will not resolve itself until the Jets and/Rodgers give in.


Can all those aforementioned teams afford him under the cap?

I'm under the impression the Jets have the most flexibility and motivation to get this done in the AFC.

I think big picture wise the Jets should offer up a bit more to get Rodgers in the building *IF* they know he would show up and participate in offseason activities (which he should given it's a new team for him).

If you're this all in on the guy, it's worth spending a bit more to get him now, IMO.

Carr or Garoppolo I feel would've been the more prudent choice going in, but if they feel the superstar upside is still there, then they have to pay for it, no questions asked.
I would not be surprised  
Spiciest Memelord : 3/16/2023 11:33 am : link
if the Jets were dopey enough enough to make Rodgers their #1 target, but I'm guessing Carr and Garrafolo had no intention on joining that 🤡 org.
RE: I would thnk  
islander1 : 3/16/2023 11:34 am : link
In comment 16066395 section125 said:
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$58.3 mill is enough reason to move him within the week...


I believe there's cap benefits for the Packers to wait until June 1st. Something I heard on NFL radio this morning.
You guys make me laugh  
JerseyCityJoe : 3/16/2023 12:33 pm : link
Rodgers wins the MVP two of the last three years and now he's shot? I wouldn't bet on it.
RE: You guys make me laugh  
Drewcon40 : 3/16/2023 1:49 pm : link
In comment 16066743 JerseyCityJoe said:
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Rodgers wins the MVP two of the last three years and now he's shot? I wouldn't bet on it.


On Green Bay, and he even calls himself the covid mvp. Let’s keep it positive in here and hope the Jets fail.
GB should hold out for the best offer.  
Section331 : 3/16/2023 2:01 pm : link
2 1st’s is the minimum rate for a good starter, and here we have a future HOF’er (albeit an older one). GB has no reason to move off of that demand. While it would be uncomfortable to bring Rodgers back if a deal can’t be finalized, the Jets would have it worse - they’ll be looking at another season with Zach Wilson. I think NYJ blink first.
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