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Jalen Carter...disastrous Pro Day

KingBlue : 3/16/2023 8:55 am
He was being talked about as the #1 non QB to be drafted. Then he had the speeding/wreckless driving incident resulting in multiple deaths. And now this.

Carter only participated in position drills and opted not to take part in any other portion of the pro day workout — including the 40-yard dash, cone drills and other physical tests. He was 9 lbs heavier than he was at the combine.

This guy is going to drop. He had one job... to be in shape for his Pro Day.
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Sounds Like  
JaxGiant : 3/16/2023 8:56 am : link
He'll drop to the Cowboys and have a hall of fame career.
He won’t get past the Eagles at number 10 imv  
Rick in Dallas : 3/16/2023 9:05 am : link
Just amazing he wasn’t in shape for his pro day but in shape this kid is very good.
We don’t know how much that accident has messed with him mentally.
2 of his friends died in that accident
RE: He won’t get past the Eagles at number 10 imv  
section125 : 3/16/2023 9:12 am : link
In comment 16066414 Rick in Dallas said:
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Just amazing he wasn’t in shape for his pro day but in shape this kid is very good.
We don’t know how much that accident has messed with him mentally.
2 of his friends died in that accident


It absolutely has to have affected his head. Not sure of the legal implications, but he is in some serious trouble being involved in a fatal crash while racing on a street with possible alcohol involvement. How could he not be affected?
RE: He won’t get past the Eagles at number 10 imv  
MotownGIANTS : 3/16/2023 9:13 am : link
In comment 16066414 Rick in Dallas said:
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Just amazing he wasn’t in shape for his pro day but in shape this kid is very good.
We don’t know how much that accident has messed with him mentally.
2 of his friends died in that accident


Agreed ... but I'd hope he is not a person that goes into chill/party mode when adversatity hits and then has to ramp back up. Will be hard to stay in shape which will mean roller coaster output. He is young though so there is time/room to get healthier coping tools and what-not.
RE: He won’t get past the Eagles at number 10 imv  
BigBlue7 : 3/16/2023 9:16 am : link
In comment 16066414 Rick in Dallas said:
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Just amazing he wasn’t in shape for his pro day but in shape this kid is very good.
We don’t know how much that accident has messed with him mentally.
2 of his friends died in that accident


Eagles will definitely take him at 10 and he will terrorize us for the next 12 years
I’m guessing the Bears will take him  
George : 3/16/2023 9:26 am : link
That’s why they traded down.
If he’s the goods, his live scouting and film during  
Big Blue '56 : 3/16/2023 9:29 am : link
his career will/should count much more than 1 friggin’ Pro Day
Or maybe he just did an ‘Isaiah Wilson’ before the draft.  
Spider56 : 3/16/2023 9:30 am : link
You never know with some of these guys.
RE: RE: He won’t get past the Eagles at number 10 imv  
Tom in NY : 3/16/2023 9:44 am : link
In comment 16066426 BigBlue7 said:
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In comment 16066414 Rick in Dallas said:


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Just amazing he wasn’t in shape for his pro day but in shape this kid is very good.
We don’t know how much that accident has messed with him mentally.
2 of his friends died in that accident



Eagles will definitely take him at 10 and he will terrorize us for the next 12 years


**THIS**
Unfortunately, the Eagles seem to be the team there to take advantage every time other teams blink. I don't like that Carter lied to the police and scouts about the drag racing that night at all, but it seems like folks are going to have to look past what has happened here and determine if the risk is worth the potential reward.
So a 300+ pound man  
lugnut : 3/16/2023 9:59 am : link
Is 9 pounds heavier than expected. That’s like 3%. Probably one undigested meal for this guy. Not exactly Maurice Clarett workout fuckup.

I agree the incident/charges seem damn serious though.
RE: So a 300+ pound man  
BigBlue7 : 3/16/2023 10:00 am : link
In comment 16066485 lugnut said:
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Is 9 pounds heavier than expected. That’s like 3%. Probably one undigested meal for this guy. Not exactly Maurice Clarett workout fuckup.

I agree the incident/charges seem damn serious though.


Did you watch the workout clips? He looked sloppy and easily winded
RE: RE: He won’t get past the Eagles at number 10 imv  
nochance : 3/16/2023 10:02 am : link
In comment 16066419 section125 said:
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In comment 16066414 Rick in Dallas said:


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Just amazing he wasn’t in shape for his pro day but in shape this kid is very good.
We don’t know how much that accident has messed with him mentally.
2 of his friends died in that accident



It absolutely has to have affected his head. Not sure of the legal implications, but he is in some serious trouble being involved in a fatal crash while racing on a street with possible alcohol involvement. How could he not be affected?



What about the real possibility of him going to prison?
I think the Lions  
lugnut : 3/16/2023 10:06 am : link
Will take him at #6. And should. They pick #18 too and have 5 picks in top 100, I think - even if he’s a total flop, they can kind of afford it. If he’s “all that,” and with young (cheap) studs Hutch and Houston on the edges, the Lions could really be a force for a sustained period. And, no, I NEVER thought I’d say that.
RE: If he’s the goods, his live scouting and film during  
Section331 : 3/16/2023 10:19 am : link
In comment 16066445 Big Blue '56 said:
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his career will/should count much more than 1 friggin’ Pro Day


Maybe, but being out of shape on the most important job interview of your life is a red flag. By itself, maybe you can overlook it, but combined with his DUI, teams will rightly have character concerns.
Some of you ignoring the legal issues  
jvm52106 : 3/16/2023 10:43 am : link
here and thinking that combined with his lack of a combine showing and then poor Pro Day will have no effect on his draft status is a bit funny.

Right now he has done everything wrong a person in his position could do. At a time where he should be hyper focused on putting his best impression out there he does the opposite.

It won't crush his draft status, but it will drop him some. Teams can't afford to make mistakes on draft picks like this (ie off the field issues and poor showings leading up to the draft) with how much they need quality- younger- cheaper options on their roster while they can control that wage scale. If you swing and miss- Baker and Apple come to mind right off, it really hurts your roster and cap (since you need to acquire talent at that same position again).

Carter case resolved  
Rick in Dallas : 3/16/2023 10:50 am : link
1 year probation
$1,000 fine
80 hours of community service
Resolved of any wrongdoing in case
BigBlue7  
lugnut : 3/16/2023 11:12 am : link
That’s a valid point (and, no, I did not see the workout).

I’ll be optimistic (for once) — some guys redeem themselves of bad showings. Remember Orlando Brown’s famously horrific “performance” at the Combine? Weak, slooow, man-boobs a-floppin’? He’s a 4-time Pro Bowler and SB champ. If Carter’s legal problems are indeed behind him, maybe he gets his head on straight and trains now.
RE: RE: He won’t get past the Eagles at number 10 imv  
Spiciest Memelord : 3/16/2023 11:18 am : link
In comment 16066426 BigBlue7 said:
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In comment 16066414 Rick in Dallas said:


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Just amazing he wasn’t in shape for his pro day but in shape this kid is very good.
We don’t know how much that accident has messed with him mentally.
2 of his friends died in that accident



Eagles will definitely take him at 10 and he will terrorize us for the next 12 years


And didn't one of their big FA DT's just sign with someone else? Some sort of cruel dark evil fate is working in the Eagle's favor.
The 9 pounds thing  
Sy'56 : 3/16/2023 1:43 pm : link
Is laughable

Not sure some of you realize these guys can gain and lose that within 48 hours easily
RE: The 9 pounds thing  
AG5686 : 3/16/2023 1:46 pm : link
In comment 16066929 Sy'56 said:
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Is laughable

Not sure some of you realize these guys can gain and lose that within 48 hours easily

I think it has more to do with an overall concern given what happened recently...and him knowing that he had a pro day coming up,and he really wasnt in shape or very sharp for it...
perhaps its nothing but.....it certainly doesnt help him
Maybe he tanked  
Joe Beckwith : 3/16/2023 5:38 pm : link
TO get to Philthy.
QBs and WRs go early, and Will Anderson, and he gets to 7/8, and Philthy moves up.
RE: Maybe he tanked  
cosmicj : 3/16/2023 5:39 pm : link
In comment 16067418 Joe Beckwith said:
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TO get to Philthy.
QBs and WRs go early, and Will Anderson, and he gets to 7/8, and Philthy moves up.


Sure. Lose several million dollars? No problem.
RE: The 9 pounds thing  
GFAN52 : 3/16/2023 6:04 pm : link
In comment 16066929 Sy'56 said:
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Is laughable

Not sure some of you realize these guys can gain and lose that within 48 hours easily


That’s a normal meal for lineman at Ruth Chris’s Steak house.
he got arrested  
BigBlueCane : 3/16/2023 6:25 pm : link
before the fatal race as well.

Off the field issues and lack of judgement rarely get better when a kid becomes a millionaire.
RE: Carter case resolved  
section125 : 3/16/2023 6:31 pm : link
In comment 16066580 Rick in Dallas said:
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1 year probation
$1,000 fine
80 hours of community service
Resolved of any wrongdoing in case


It still has to affect him. He lost friends and probably feels some responsibility.....I just hope he gets his head right. Time heals.
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