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Falcons interested in WR Darius Slayton

Vin_Cuccs : 3/16/2023 10:06 am
Apparently, he does have an offer from the Giants as well.
Oh boy  
Rjanyg : 3/16/2023 10:10 am : link
If Slayton re-signs here this will be very polarizing.
RE: Oh boy  
Semipro Lineman : 3/16/2023 10:11 am : link
In comment 16066505 Rjanyg said:
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If Slayton re-signs here this will be very polarizing.


I hope he does because
resigning slayton is fine if it's cheap  
Eric on Li : 3/16/2023 10:14 am : link
not so fine if it's not. so far even an older player like robert woods off a poor year got 7.6m aav and 10m gtd. the bills gave a special teamer almost 5m per year yesterday.
He's from ATL so I'm guessing he's gone  
SicilianGMEN : 3/16/2023 10:15 am : link
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If the price is right I d have no problem with him  
Blue21 : 3/16/2023 10:17 am : link
Coming back. Hope it is and hope he does.
Excellent.  
Big Blue '56 : 3/16/2023 10:17 am : link
A lot less angst now should he sign with the Falcons..:)
RE: Oh boy  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/16/2023 10:29 am : link
In comment 16066505 Rjanyg said:
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If Slayton re-signs here this will be very polarizing.


Not if he is cheap.
I'd like to see him back  
noro9 : 3/16/2023 10:31 am : link
At last year's price
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Rjanyg : 3/16/2023 10:44 am : link
In comment 16066541 Eric from BBI said:
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If Slayton re-signs here this will be very polarizing.



Not if he is cheap.


What is your version of cheap?
Sounds like the GIants made offers they are comfortable with to  
PatersonPlank : 3/16/2023 10:44 am : link
a number of their FA's, and now its up to the players to find a better deal and leave (or not). Likely did the same with Love (just my guess).
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/16/2023 10:47 am : link
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If Slayton re-signs here this will be very polarizing.



Not if he is cheap.



What is your version of cheap?


Something near veteran minimum... with a small signing bonus/guaranteed money. He's a 4th/5th wide receiver at best. Hell, if Collin Johnson didn't get hurt, he wouldn't have made the team last year.
I think People vastly underrate Slayton here  
Essex : 3/16/2023 10:54 am : link
it makes no difference that he would not have made the team--he showed last season that he can do things and is a legitimate NFL receiver. Obviously, his hands are nowhere near reliably to be a one or a two, but he is good enough to contribute depending on the cost.
He’s probably getting a nice offer in FA  
JoeyBigBlue : 3/16/2023 11:00 am : link
Something around 5 mill a year. We won’t pay him that much, so he will be GONE.
RE: He’s probably getting a nice offer in FA  
Big Blue '56 : 3/16/2023 11:03 am : link
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Something around 5 mill a year. We won’t pay him that much, so he will be GONE.


And, if he settles for less with the Falcons, that might indeed tell us what the Giants think/thought of him
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Rjanyg : 3/16/2023 11:14 am : link
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If Slayton re-signs here this will be very polarizing.



Not if he is cheap.



What is your version of cheap?



Something near veteran minimum... with a small signing bonus/guaranteed money. He's a 4th/5th wide receiver at best. Hell, if Collin Johnson didn't get hurt, he wouldn't have made the team last year.


I think he is getting at least $5 Mill per year so he is gone IMO.
the only two reasons to even consider bringing Slayton back  
Dave on the UWS : 3/16/2023 11:29 am : link
are 1. he's real good in the locker room and 2. he has speed which you can't teach.
Otherwise, time for a fresh start on both ends.
RE: Oh boy  
islander1 : 3/16/2023 11:36 am : link
In comment 16066505 Rjanyg said:
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If Slayton re-signs here this will be very polarizing.


depends on the salary. He's fine for a #4 guy.
Slayton is fast as hell and can get separation  
MeanBunny : 3/16/2023 11:39 am : link
Problem is route running precision and the untimely drops. He makes contested catches and is not an idiot. I am not sure why Dabs doesn't like him except that he can't get a grip on the scheme?
RE: Slayton is fast as hell and can get separation  
Big Blue '56 : 3/16/2023 11:43 am : link
In comment 16066676 MeanBunny said:
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Problem is route running precision and the untimely drops. He makes contested catches and is not an idiot. I am not sure why Dabs doesn't like him except that he can't get a grip on the scheme?


Probably frustration?
RE: Slayton is fast as hell and can get separation  
BSIMatt : 3/16/2023 11:58 am : link
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Problem is route running precision and the untimely drops. He makes contested catches and is not an idiot. I am not sure why Dabs doesn't like him except that he can't get a grip on the scheme?


Even the prior regime that drafted him, went as far as backing up the brinks truck to sign Golladay and then spent a first round pick on Kadarius Toney. The new regime, with those two in tow, spent a second rounder on Wandale Robinson, and for the first quarter of the season it seemed the coaching staff went out of their way to keep Slayton from getting in games. There is no way the Giants are throwing significant dollars his way imo. Slayton is a limited player. He would have factored into the offense much earlier, like Shep did if the coaching staff were high on him.
LPG hinting  
XtraCredit29 : 3/16/2023 12:06 pm : link
that slayton will be back...I know not the best source
LPG Tweet - ( New Window )
Yep, for vet min up to  
section125 : 3/16/2023 12:10 pm : link
maybe $2 mill, ok. He is an off the bench guy at best - #4 or #5 WR.

Otherwise - move on.
JAG - we can easily find a replacement for his role of  
PatersonPlank : 3/16/2023 12:12 pm : link
#5 or #6 WR (after adds). If he takes a cheap deal then fine, he's a good teammate. However I'm not stretching one inch on him.
RE: Oh boy  
UConn4523 : 3/16/2023 12:14 pm : link
In comment 16066505 Rjanyg said:
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If Slayton re-signs here this will be very polarizing.


Only if it’s for a lot of money. He has value and no one hates him. He’s just not a WR I want starting. If he’s our 4 I’m good with that. But I want a true #1, Hodgins and Wandale on the fuel over him.
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Red Right Hand : 3/16/2023 12:16 pm : link
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If Slayton re-signs here this will be very polarizing.



Not if he is cheap.



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Something near veteran minimum... with a small signing bonus/guaranteed money. He's a 4th/5th wide receiver at best. Hell, if Collin Johnson didn't get hurt, he wouldn't have made the team last year.
yeah, 750+ yds year in year out is a 4th-5th WR, ok.

Tell me, whose 5th WR has 750 yds a year??????? Utterly ridiculous statement.
RE: RE: He’s probably getting a nice offer in FA  
Red Right Hand : 3/16/2023 12:17 pm : link
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Something around 5 mill a year. We won’t pay him that much, so he will be GONE.



And, if he settles for less with the Falcons, that might indeed tell us what the Giants think/thought of him

I bet he gets more than 5.
Speedy receiver with bad hands?  
RomanWH : 3/16/2023 12:20 pm : link
Why bring him back? There's at least a dozen guys we could take on Day 3 of the draft if not, undrafted free agency who could do the same. He's not special. It's time to move on and let someone else have the opportunity to produce in Dab's/Kafka's offense. Someone who won't drop the ball as often perhaps.
RE: Yep, for vet min up to  
Red Right Hand : 3/16/2023 12:21 pm : link
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maybe $2 mill, ok. He is an off the bench guy at best - #4 or #5 WR.

Otherwise - move on.
AT BEST #4 you say. AT BEST. show me how many teams #4 WR got more yds than slayton last year. when one says AT BEST, i would expect that at least half the NFL have teams have 4 WRs who got more yds than slayton did. tell me who those teams were.I'll wait.
From the veteran FAs available  
Tom in NY : 3/16/2023 12:24 pm : link
It appears to me to be one of these three:

- Slayton - knows the team, QB, and system. We know his flaws

- Hardman - speed, worked with Kafka, should be able to adapt quickly. Questionable hands, and why did he never grow into a bigger role in KC with Mahomes?

- Chark - ideal size and speed. Some very good highlights. 2 teams seem to have given up on him already....why?

None of these guys are going to be the X/1 receiver, but combined with a potential draft pick could help to make the WR corps more competitive.

I can see Slayton coming back, but they will be looking at ways to make sure they bring talent in above him over the next 2 years.
I like Slayotn . . . . but I've noticed something about his game  
ThorSavage87 : 3/16/2023 12:25 pm : link
Recently the NFL Network replayed the Giants vs Vikings play off games. A couple things stood out when I focused on Slayton. 1. He had the big drop at the end of the game, but he had a few other drops as well. 2. I lost count, but Slayton seemed to line up on the wrong side of the field coming out of the huddle. DJ was constantly having to tell him to get on the other side of the field.

From a coaching perspective I can imagine that drives them nuts. It adds time to getting the play off with the play clock counting down and illustrates he doesn't completely grasp the playbook.

I've always liked Slayton, but understand why it might be time to move on.

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BSIMatt : 3/16/2023 12:32 pm : link
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maybe $2 mill, ok. He is an off the bench guy at best - #4 or #5 WR.

Otherwise - move on.

AT BEST #4 you say. AT BEST. show me how many teams #4 WR got more yds than slayton last year. when one says AT BEST, i would expect that at least half the NFL have teams have 4 WRs who got more yds than slayton did. tell me who those teams were.I'll wait.


He had 750 yards on the worst group of wide receivers in the NFL..when he was forced into playing time, despite early on the coaching staff showing they preferred to give numerous other players opportunities. If we spend a #1 pick on Flowers/Hyatt..whoever...that guy is going to be on the field, Wandale Robinson is going to be on the field. If Shep is healthy..shep is going to be on the field..over Slayton, if not I'd still think Hodgins would be the coaches prefrence over Slayton based on how Slayton was sparingly used early on last year, and how the passing game started showing signs of life once Hodgins was repeatedly being targeted by Jones. On most NFL rosters, Slayton wouldn't be approaching 700+ yards because he'd never see the field.
RE: From the veteran FAs available  
Big Blue '56 : 3/16/2023 12:52 pm : link
In comment 16066728 Tom in NY said:
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It appears to me to be one of these three:

- Slayton - knows the team, QB, and system. We know his flaws

- Hardman - speed, worked with Kafka, should be able to adapt quickly. Questionable hands, and why did he never grow into a bigger role in KC with Mahomes?

- Chark - ideal size and speed. Some very good highlights. 2 teams seem to have given up on him already....why?

None of these guys are going to be the X/1 receiver, but combined with a potential draft pick could help to make the WR corps more competitive.

I can see Slayton coming back, but they will be looking at ways to make sure they bring talent in above him over the next 2 years.


It was only ONE YEAR and it can all turn, but if last year was at all indicative, It doesn’t matter how Chalk et al have previousl performed, we have Dabes and he SEEMS to be able to get the best out of his players, imv
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RHPeel : 3/16/2023 12:52 pm : link
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maybe $2 mill, ok. He is an off the bench guy at best - #4 or #5 WR.

Otherwise - move on.

AT BEST #4 you say. AT BEST. show me how many teams #4 WR got more yds than slayton last year. when one says AT BEST, i would expect that at least half the NFL have teams have 4 WRs who got more yds than slayton did. tell me who those teams were.I'll wait.



He had 750 yards on the worst group of wide receivers in the NFL..when he was forced into playing time, despite early on the coaching staff showing they preferred to give numerous other players opportunities. If we spend a #1 pick on Flowers/Hyatt..whoever...that guy is going to be on the field, Wandale Robinson is going to be on the field. If Shep is healthy..shep is going to be on the field..over Slayton, if not I'd still think Hodgins would be the coaches prefrence over Slayton based on how Slayton was sparingly used early on last year, and how the passing game started showing signs of life once Hodgins was repeatedly being targeted by Jones. On most NFL rosters, Slayton wouldn't be approaching 700+ yards because he'd never see the field.


Exactly this. This is the concept of "replacement level." If you have a football team, you have receivers, and some are going to catch passes. So Slayton's numbers are in part because of the opportunities he got.

I don't mind bringing Slayton back.
I'm a Slayton fan...  
penkap75 : 3/16/2023 1:15 pm : link
But a speedy WR with shitty hands... should've focused on being a DB in HS.
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Red Right Hand : 3/16/2023 4:15 pm : link
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maybe $2 mill, ok. He is an off the bench guy at best - #4 or #5 WR.

Otherwise - move on.

AT BEST #4 you say. AT BEST. show me how many teams #4 WR got more yds than slayton last year. when one says AT BEST, i would expect that at least half the NFL have teams have 4 WRs who got more yds than slayton did. tell me who those teams were.I'll wait.



He had 750 yards on the worst group of wide receivers in the NFL..when he was forced into playing time, despite early on the coaching staff showing they preferred to give numerous other players opportunities. If we spend a #1 pick on Flowers/Hyatt..whoever...that guy is going to be on the field, Wandale Robinson is going to be on the field. If Shep is healthy..shep is going to be on the field..over Slayton, if not I'd still think Hodgins would be the coaches prefrence over Slayton based on how Slayton was sparingly used early on last year, and how the passing game started showing signs of life once Hodgins was repeatedly being targeted by Jones. On most NFL rosters, Slayton wouldn't be approaching 700+ yards because he'd never see the field.
that would maybe be valid if he had one year with that production, but the fact is, it's 3 out of 4 years.
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