He had one of the best combines I can ever recall for wide receivers n 2019. So much so that he was drafted eighteen slots ahead of his Buckeye teammate, Terry McLaurin.
The injury risk is legit and that is the only reason he is coming so cheap. If he can stay healthy, he could be the best/fastest slot receiver in the NFL. Well worth the risk. Waller, Breida, Barkley, Campbell and Smith/Robinson on the field at the same time would be among the fastest offensive playmaking tandems in the NFL.
Huge improvement already if they can stay healthy. Just need our number one receiver now.
didn't break the bank on the money. no long term commitment if he can't stay healthy. and when healthy he's a better player and a more reliable player than slayton.
they also needed speed to clear things out for waller.
i'd love to see them draft tillman from tennessee in rd 2 and tank dell in round 3.
hodgins performed the best last year, the only caveat is he played 11 actives because buf had him inactive for most of the year.
campbell is an upside depth signing coming off his own personal best year but in a game tomorrow he'd be the 3rd option behind the other 2.
based on numbers they are clearly going to continue adding more receivers through the rest of the offseason and almost definitely draft someone day 1 or 2.
He may be #2 option. Much more speed than Hodgins.
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#Giants #Okereke - "excited as hell" for campbell to join .... FAST and a great leader and a great guy...always had elite speed and he's more resilient after his injuries
hodgins performed the best last year, the only caveat is he played 11 actives because buf had him inactive for most of the year.
campbell is an upside depth signing coming off his own personal best year but in a game tomorrow he'd be the 3rd option behind the other 2.
based on numbers they are clearly going to continue adding more receivers through the rest of the offseason and almost definitely draft someone day 1 or 2.
He may be #2 option. Much more speed than Hodgins.
if you just prorate hodgins to a full season he was going to get close to 1k yards and 10tds. that's despite getting claimed mid year and learning a new offense. next gen stats had his ability to catch the ball in the 85th percentile and overall the 21st highest rated receiver.
i like the campbell signing because id rather roll the dice on upside than slayton, but he's also likely taking less $ than slayton will get paid which says something about what the nfl thinks his chances are.
RE: RE: Won't anyone think about how this affects Jeff Smith?
obviously will depend on what he ends up getting but id have gone with hardman over campbell. more versatile and fewer injury risks. maybe his $ ask is way beyond that or maybe they didnt want to go multi-year deal, but this is a pretty expensive contract for a guy who has ended up on IR 3 out of 4 years so far.
But for 1-year, 3M, it's a nice prove-it deal and Campbell does have excellent speed. He probably plays slot and WR4 while Wan'Dale is out.
Right now he’s our starting WR. If we draft someone high then Campbell likely still starts. He’s only a WR4 if everything else goes to plan and works out which isn’t likely.
Cheap players who had some bad luck but are good football players with something to prove
So does this change what FA receive is next?
If you were a Hardman or Chark person does this which one of those you prefer now, if you could still get one?
i think campbell and hardman are a little too duplicative of each other's skill sets. they both catch a lot of balls at or around the line of scrimmage.
chark is more of a prototypical outside receiver. i could see him or slayton on similar 1 year deal + incentives.
seeing campbell's price almost double beyond the initial 3m reported is a little surprising to me but i guess they like him that much.
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From Free Agency Frenzy on @nflnetwork: The #Giants have added Parris Campbell and Darren Waller in recent days. They’re still nosing around in free agency and the Draft to add more targets for Daniel Jones.
of this signing is he really belives that he can up his value here. He needs tobprove his worth and sees the potential here. We would have to overpay for someone to come here in years past.
RE: RE: RE: Won't anyone think about how this affects Jeff Smith?
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From Free Agency Frenzy on @nflnetwork: The #Giants have added Parris Campbell and Darren Waller in recent days. They’re still nosing around in free agency and the Draft to add more targets for Daniel Jones.
DJ Chark! I mean he's also an injury-prone WR, but I love those H/W/S guys
again... John Ross best year 28 catches with 8 drops... second best year 21 catches with 7 drops. This is not the same. Campbell issue is he couldn't stay healthy, but last year played all 17 games finally and put up a over 60 catch over 600 yard season with crap at QB. He is fast, has good hands, and runs good routes. He is going to make an impact on our team. This isn't John Ross.
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From Free Agency Frenzy on @nflnetwork: The #Giants have added Parris Campbell and Darren Waller in recent days. They’re still nosing around in free agency and the Draft to add more targets for Daniel Jones.
Kinda goes without saying, no? Especially with the draft.
“Smart, tough, dependable”. Maybe not as important as posters like to think.
You can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. If you decide Paris Campbell isn't dependable enough for you, then sure, you don't sign him, but that's not the question. The question is: Is he an upgrade over the worst WR on the roster? The Giants WR depth chart is a horror show. There are a lot of guys who are barely NFL players. Parris Campbell bumps one of them off the roster.
He doesn't have to be everything you'd want to be something you want.
That this regime values separation above all other traits.
There was talk at some point lst season that Jones doesn't like to throw 50/50 balls — maybe because it was sort of beaten into him not to take chances with the football. That reluctance was supposed to have been a reason he didn't mesh well with Golladay. Golladay isn't often "open," so DJ didn't throw to him. Golladay's game was supposed to be making catches when he's "covered," and DJ didn't trust him for that.
So if the idea is to that DJ will throw to guys who get separation, and won't to guys who don't, then yeah, separation is the most important thing.
At some point, it'd be nice for DJ to have a WR he trusts enough to throw to when the WR doesn't have separation. That guy probably has to come through the draft.
think some of you guys are under the impression that the Campbell/Smith's of the world = Schoen done looking for better/long term weapons for DJ. They can both look for short-term, "better than what they had last year" options, while keeping their eyes on "legit good NFL weapons" as the goal longer term.
hodgins performed the best last year, the only caveat is he played 11 actives because buf had him inactive for most of the year.
campbell is an upside depth signing coming off his own personal best year but in a game tomorrow he'd be the 3rd option behind the other 2.
based on numbers they are clearly going to continue adding more receivers through the rest of the offseason and almost definitely draft someone day 1 or 2.
He may be #2 option. Much more speed than Hodgins.
Defensive coordinators weren't worried about Hodgins beating them. No one on the team required double coverage last year. Getting Waller and Campbell means there are now two players who can stretch the field and score on long plays. DC's are now going to have to scheme a little to play against this offense.
think some of you guys are under the impression that the Campbell/Smith's of the world = Schoen done looking for better/long term weapons for DJ. They can both look for short-term, "better than what they had last year" options, while keeping their eyes on "legit good NFL weapons" as the goal longer term.
They are at least starting to get depth with guys better than who we had/have in place. IF (big if) Shepard gets healthy and Robinson gets healthy, we are starting to build a better unit. Hodgins is a nice to have, but should not be on the field for most of the snaps. I have a feeling, though, they will be rotating guys in and out regularly, every couple of snaps.
Teams will now have to pay attention to Waller and Campbell, both of whom can stretch the field, which will allow Hodgins and James to operate underneath. That, plus they need to worry about Saquon either rushing or on screens and designed receiving plays. Not to mention DJ rushing as well. Adding another vet WR and one in the draft will really help this offense open up.
The injury risk is legit and that is the only reason he is coming so cheap. If he can stay healthy, he could be the best/fastest slot receiver in the NFL. Well worth the risk. Waller, Breida, Barkley, Campbell and Smith/Robinson on the field at the same time would be among the fastest offensive playmaking tandems in the NFL.
Huge improvement already if they can stay healthy. Just need our number one receiver now.
Good job Joe Schoen!
they also needed speed to clear things out for waller.
i'd love to see them draft tillman from tennessee in rd 2 and tank dell in round 3.
Low risk high upside, can't complain.
I'm working on it.
Definitely helps the OL, DJ, and the RBs.
Wait until they add 1 or 2 WR draftees!
campbell is an upside depth signing coming off his own personal best year but in a game tomorrow he'd be the 3rd option behind the other 2.
based on numbers they are clearly going to continue adding more receivers through the rest of the offseason and almost definitely draft someone day 1 or 2.
He may be #2 option. Much more speed than Hodgins.
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#Giants #Okereke - "excited as hell" for campbell to join .... FAST and a great leader and a great guy...always had elite speed and he's more resilient after his injuries
I hope James grabs a depth spot. I thought he played clutch, returns kicks and is tough as hell.
Not to sound like a dad but Bellinger has some pretty good hands as well. That was one of his strenghts comming out and in his first season.
For some reason the name Jeff Smith doesn’t get me fired up… not a great football name
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For some reason the name Jeff Smith doesn’t get me fired up… not a great football name
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hodgins performed the best last year, the only caveat is he played 11 actives because buf had him inactive for most of the year.
campbell is an upside depth signing coming off his own personal best year but in a game tomorrow he'd be the 3rd option behind the other 2.
based on numbers they are clearly going to continue adding more receivers through the rest of the offseason and almost definitely draft someone day 1 or 2.
He may be #2 option. Much more speed than Hodgins.
if you just prorate hodgins to a full season he was going to get close to 1k yards and 10tds. that's despite getting claimed mid year and learning a new offense. next gen stats had his ability to catch the ball in the 85th percentile and overall the 21st highest rated receiver.
i like the campbell signing because id rather roll the dice on upside than slayton, but he's also likely taking less $ than slayton will get paid which says something about what the nfl thinks his chances are.
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For some reason the name Jeff Smith doesn’t get me fired up… not a great football name
Suppose we call him "Bubba." Would that do it for you?
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The Giants, again, are not done at the wide receiver position. Still hoping to add to the group.
maybe theres a lighter market for slayton than expected.
So does this change what FA receive is next?
If you were a Hardman or Chark person does this which one of those you prefer now, if you could still get one?
Right now he’s our starting WR. If we draft someone high then Campbell likely still starts. He’s only a WR4 if everything else goes to plan and works out which isn’t likely.
So does this change what FA receive is next?
If you were a Hardman or Chark person does this which one of those you prefer now, if you could still get one?
i think campbell and hardman are a little too duplicative of each other's skill sets. they both catch a lot of balls at or around the line of scrimmage.
chark is more of a prototypical outside receiver. i could see him or slayton on similar 1 year deal + incentives.
seeing campbell's price almost double beyond the initial 3m reported is a little surprising to me but i guess they like him that much.
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From Free Agency Frenzy on @nflnetwork: The #Giants have added Parris Campbell and Darren Waller in recent days. They’re still nosing around in free agency and the Draft to add more targets for Daniel Jones.
Nice contract. Hopefully he stays healthy.
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You heartless bastards!
For some reason the name Jeff Smith doesn’t get me fired up… not a great football name
Suppose we call him "Bubba." Would that do it for you?
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From Free Agency Frenzy on @nflnetwork: The #Giants have added Parris Campbell and Darren Waller in recent days. They’re still nosing around in free agency and the Draft to add more targets for Daniel Jones.
DJ Chark! I mean he's also an injury-prone WR, but I love those H/W/S guys
Nice contract. Hopefully he stays healthy.
again... John Ross best year 28 catches with 8 drops... second best year 21 catches with 7 drops. This is not the same. Campbell issue is he couldn't stay healthy, but last year played all 17 games finally and put up a over 60 catch over 600 yard season with crap at QB. He is fast, has good hands, and runs good routes. He is going to make an impact on our team. This isn't John Ross.
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From Free Agency Frenzy on @nflnetwork: The #Giants have added Parris Campbell and Darren Waller in recent days. They’re still nosing around in free agency and the Draft to add more targets for Daniel Jones.
Kinda goes without saying, no? Especially with the draft.
He doesn't have to be everything you'd want to be something you want.
So if the idea is to that DJ will throw to guys who get separation, and won't to guys who don't, then yeah, separation is the most important thing.
At some point, it'd be nice for DJ to have a WR he trusts enough to throw to when the WR doesn't have separation. That guy probably has to come through the draft.
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hodgins performed the best last year, the only caveat is he played 11 actives because buf had him inactive for most of the year.
campbell is an upside depth signing coming off his own personal best year but in a game tomorrow he'd be the 3rd option behind the other 2.
based on numbers they are clearly going to continue adding more receivers through the rest of the offseason and almost definitely draft someone day 1 or 2.
He may be #2 option. Much more speed than Hodgins.
Defensive coordinators weren't worried about Hodgins beating them. No one on the team required double coverage last year. Getting Waller and Campbell means there are now two players who can stretch the field and score on long plays. DC's are now going to have to scheme a little to play against this offense.
Of course
Dependable has "nothing" to do with injuries...
This.
They are at least starting to get depth with guys better than who we had/have in place. IF (big if) Shepard gets healthy and Robinson gets healthy, we are starting to build a better unit. Hodgins is a nice to have, but should not be on the field for most of the snaps. I have a feeling, though, they will be rotating guys in and out regularly, every couple of snaps.
Seems something the Giants have gone off the rails on for the last decade.