Slayton coming back

Quite the story...I thought he was as good as gone

I thought the Giants had moved on.

Slayton may have a drops-- but dude is an over achiever, team first guy and him and Jones have a strangely good connection

Low money deal similar to Campbell’s.

For the terms to be released. To me, it should be about the same as the Campbell contract.

Good guy.
Hopefully, some incentives in the contract.

Happy to have this dude back.. Can only build with the talent around him.. Let's get it!

and hopefully he spends a lot of time on the jugs machine.

player - 3rd and long guy...if the price is right.

Of guys being discussed. Campbell being a slot+ never took him out.

I think it speaks to him as a player/person that the coaches completely wrote him off from the jump and then did complete turnaround on him as a player. Enough to bring him back. He helps open things up for the rest of the offense. If he's cheaper than what Chark comes in, which he should be, I think it's a decent re-signing. We upgraded our speed at slot and TE while retaining our fastest WR. Leaves to door open to draft a WR high without being desperate.

In comment 16067254 allstarjim said:

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For the terms to be released. To me, it should be about the same as the Campbell contract.

I agree with high motor Jim.

In comment 16067248 fish3321 said:

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Slayton may have a drops-- but dude is an over achiever, team first guy and him and Jones have a strangely good connection

Agreed, and if it's for a similar value as Campbells, I think its a very solid move.

People really shit on Slayton a lot. He's definitely viable as a 4th WR + Depth signing. WRs are going to get injured, there's 0% chance they all stay healthy. But with Slayton, there's decent depth at the position, even if it lacks the Alpha #1 WR.

Wandale, Hodgins, Shepard, Campbell, Slayton, and even Richie James -- as long as 2 of those guys are healthy at any given time, at least we'll have more than 1 NFL Quality WR on the field. That's more than we an say for some of the games we've had in the past couple years.

In comment 16067252 JoeyBigBlue said:

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Low money deal similar to Campbell’s.

I would guess similar but less incentivized for health and more in base/guarantees.

Unless you consider that to be Waller, the Giants have a collection of speedy receivers that can function as a WR3-5.

That said, there's some upside with several of them, and this appears to be a group where they're gambling on the sum being greater than the parts.

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Slayton really took that drop personally late last year. He can play a role and they know his strengths.

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but the more speed on the field at the same time the better IMO

In comment 16067265 AcesUp said:

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Of guys being discussed. Campbell being a slot+ never took him out. I think it speaks to him as a player/person that the coaches completely wrote him off from the jump and then did complete turnaround on him as a player. Enough to bring him back. He helps open things up for the rest of the offense. If he's cheaper than what Chark comes in, which he should be, I think it's a decent re-signing. We upgraded our speed at slot and TE while retaining our fastest WR. Leaves to door open to draft a WR high without being desperate.

. Good post. Agree.

Not a fan of this at all.

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In comment 16067247 Section331 said:

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I thought the Giants had moved on.

Exactly. I’m shocked to be honest. I’m assuming that the contract is very team friendly.

In comment 16067270 allstarjim said:

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Unless you consider that to be Waller, the Giants have a collection of speedy receivers that can function as a WR3-5. That said, there's some upside with several of them, and this appears to be a group where they're gambling on the sum being greater than the parts.

I'd be very surprised if we didn't add a WR with one of our first two picks and completely shocked if one wasn't selected on the first two days.

In comment 16067248 fish3321 said:

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Slayton may have a drops-- but dude is an over achiever, team first guy and him and Jones have a strangely good connection

He seems like a good guy and all that, but I wouldn't call him an overachiever.

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In comment 16067270 allstarjim said: Quote: Unless you consider that to be Waller, the Giants have a collection of speedy receivers that can function as a WR3-5. That said, there's some upside with several of them, and this appears to be a group where they're gambling on the sum being greater than the parts. I'd be very surprised if we didn't add a WR with one of our first two picks and completely shocked if one wasn't selected on the first two days.

I’d be shocked if we don’t take one at 25 and I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see a trade up for a wr either. Ila #1 wr is by far our biggest need

In comment 16067289 AcesUp said:

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In comment 16067270 allstarjim said: Quote: Unless you consider that to be Waller, the Giants have a collection of speedy receivers that can function as a WR3-5. That said, there's some upside with several of them, and this appears to be a group where they're gambling on the sum being greater than the parts. I'd be very surprised if we didn't add a WR with one of our first two picks and completely shocked if one wasn't selected on the first two days.

We really need someone that can draw double teams. Is that going to be Waller?

In comment 16067270 allstarjim said:

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Unless you consider that to be Waller, the Giants have a collection of speedy receivers that can function as a WR3-5. That said, there's some upside with several of them, and this appears to be a group where they're gambling on the sum being greater than the parts.

I don’t think it’s a gamble, they want to improve our #1 WR and the deals for one fell through so far.

I really don't get the necessity of bringing Slayton and Shepard back. We should want to upgrade those 2.

Alpha. Everyone else is to compliment him. ALL these guys an run. Good luck putting 7 and 8’in the box to stop Barkley. You draft 1 receiver in the first two rounds that compliments Waller and Hodgins as a starter, and let’s strap ‘‘em on and go to war!

Hopefully Shepard and Waller can teach DS and JS how to concentrate on pass catching during locker room talk.

I know he's Mario Manningham with worst hands (and thats being nice), but think who we would've been playing in his place had he not been here last year? David Sills? This is a nice depth piece. I assume we are grabbing a WR in rounds 1-3 in the draft and that we might not be done in FA / trades.

“ The guarantees in Darius Slayton's deal are contained in Year 1, per source, so we'll see what next season looks like. Obviously Giants hope Slayton continues his ascension within this offense and with Daniel Jones and makes the idea of getting out of Year 2 moot.”

draft one.

He’s always had a connection with Jones & his speed opens things up.

Giants essentially swapped out James for a better, faster version (Campbell), added an elite receiving threat at TE (Waller) and will get guys like Robinson/Shep back into the fold.

They upgrade Marcus Johnson to Jeff Smith as well as a WR6 type, and still have Collin Johnson who will compete for a job.

The weapons around Jones have gotten better - through both quality and quantity.

Considering there were games where Marcus Johnson and Sills started last year, the Giants are in a much better position heading into 23.

I also would not rule out a draft pick at the spot- though I think they look CB, DL, and C in the first 3 rounds. Possibly a guy like Jared Wayne or Rakim Jarrett later in the draft.

In comment 16067298 Dave on the UWS said:

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Alpha. Everyone else is to compliment him. ALL these guys an run. Good luck putting 7 and 8’in the box to stop Barkley. You draft 1 receiver in the first two rounds that compliments Waller and Hodgins as a starter, and let’s strap ‘‘em on and go to war!

And if Waller gets shelved? Which he prob will….giants still need to make a move for a true #1

Jeudy, aiyuk, Higgins, Hopkins

Or maybe a move up for Johnston

Either way another move has to happen. I would NOT feel good about this wr core being complete as is

While the WR & TE has some more talent, you added two injury prone guys and and Slayton, who I’ll never love b/c of the drops.

Thus is life with our cap space. I didn’t expect the WR room to be solved but there’s a good chance it stays as bad as last year with 1-2 injuries.

Hopefully they find contributors in the mid rounds.

(To be clear I don’t hate Waller or Campbell moves, but there’s a reason cost was generally low on both)

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In comment 16067292 Tim in Eternal Blue said:

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We really need someone that can draw double teams. Is that going to be Waller?

That was the reason for the Waller dice roll. If he is healthy, he is that guy. He's 6'6 and ran a 4.45 coming out and knows how to run routes like a WR. Not many guys whether they be CB, LB or S can match up with him one on one. We just need to hope that he stays healthy and doesn't lose anything. A little gamble there.

We have this years draft and maybe next years draft to identify a #1 WR. It wasn't happening outside of a blockbuster trade this year. These smaller moves give you a chance to identify one through the draft.

I sure hope this does not signal we are done at wr b4 the draft. We need a veteran #1. Wished we moved on from Slayton. So now our wr crew consists of Campbell, Hodgins, Shep, Smith and Slayton? That's only marginally better than last year. And stop with Waller. He is a TE. Is he a talented TE? Yes, but he is not a Wr. We improved at TE but only marginal improvement at Wr. Disappointing so far.

Remember, he was a 5th round draftee. He was never going to be a #1 or #2. He was good enough to help out, earn a reason for different coaches to bring him back and earn a second contract.
We should al have 5th and 6th rounders stay around this long

the good part is that he fights.

If we can get a legit #1 WR in the first round
If we do -with Waller - the other WRs will be fine

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Why? Could be WR, CB, ER...

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yeah I hope not...CB seems to be way more of a priority than WR...and the CB top end of the draft is way more exciting than the WR class.

I like Zay Flowers a lot but he is also undersized. Might be best to wait one more year to get a #1 type WR.

Waller helps a lot too.

WR or CB most likely picks at 25 by a wide margin. Not just based on need but who will be available.

Glad to have him back on a "prove it" two year (really one year) deal. His drops are infuriating, but he has given his some quality play and we have next to nothing at WR.

The WR room is:

Hodgins.
Slayton.
Campbell.
Smith.

Everyone else is a journeyman. Campbell might be a #2, but even if so, we still need a #1.

I don't think these signings affect what the Giants will do at #25. The pick should still be BPA, whether that is a WR or any other position.

In comment 16067313 jeff57 said:

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Why not?! I don't think we have a #1 on the roster yet. We need the 1 Alpha Dog in the WR room and we don't have him yet. If anything, if there's a WR that's BPA at 25, I think it's very strong possibility. Remember we also only have some of these guys for another year.

12 million. 16.5M max