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Apologies if I have missed it on another thread..New turf ?

56GiantsUK : 3/17/2023 11:49 am
But I am waiting for news of when they are going to rip up that turf and going to put down a different and known to be safer variety.

Have I missed anything ?

Cheers

G.

I'd be reluctant to call whatever they install 'known to be safer'  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 3/17/2023 11:51 am : link
Its a different variety of turf but I haven't seen anything that demonstrably shows the use of it reduces incidents of leg and joint injuries. Haven't heard anything on it since they announced they would be switching.
Not something I would think they issue a press release about  
BillT : 3/17/2023 12:22 pm : link
And even if they did would anyone cover it.
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Nonfootballexpert : 3/17/2023 12:25 pm : link
Searching for used met life stadium turf when I came across this web site. The company installs turf fields at met life for soccer games. Its odd that if they can turf the field for soccer why not for football ? Don't think that helps with your exact question but I thought it was interesting that there already have a system for a turf field.
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Blue21 : 3/17/2023 12:38 pm : link
In comment 16068467 Nonfootballexpert said:
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Searching for used met life stadium turf when I came across this web site. The company installs turf fields at met life for soccer games. It's odd that if they can turf the field for soccer why not for football ? Don't think that helps with your exact question but I thought it was interesting that there already have a system for a turf field. Link - ( New Window )
Small world. When I was working I used to drive by that turf farm every week.
This was the last thing I remember seeing about it  
KevinBBWC : 3/17/2023 12:56 pm : link
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widmerseyebrow : 3/17/2023 1:08 pm : link
In comment 16068467 Nonfootballexpert said:
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Searching for used met life stadium turf when I came across this web site. The company installs turf fields at met life for soccer games. Its odd that if they can turf the field for soccer why not for football ? Don't think that helps with your exact question but I thought it was interesting that there already have a system for a turf field. Link - ( New Window )


That is interesting.

Whenever owners talk about conditions not being ideal for real grass, what they really mean is they don't want to hurt their bottom line.
just saw a post on reddit that says they completely removed the turf  
Fat Wally : 3/17/2023 1:45 pm : link
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Ben in Tampa : 3/17/2023 2:03 pm : link
In comment 16068515 widmerseyebrow said:
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In comment 16068467 Nonfootballexpert said:


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Searching for used met life stadium turf when I came across this web site. The company installs turf fields at met life for soccer games. Its odd that if they can turf the field for soccer why not for football ? Don't think that helps with your exact question but I thought it was interesting that there already have a system for a turf field. Link - ( New Window )



That is interesting.

Whenever owners talk about conditions not being ideal for real grass, what they really mean is they don't want to hurt their bottom line.


Bingo. The League and the owners are so full of shit when they talk about player safety.
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D HOS : 3/17/2023 2:59 pm : link
In comment 16068467 Nonfootballexpert said:
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Searching for used met life stadium turf when I came across this web site. The company installs turf fields at met life for soccer games. Its odd that if they can turf the field for soccer why not for football ? Don't think that helps with your exact question but I thought it was interesting that there already have a system for a turf field. Link - ( New Window )


Wow. That's an interesting find. I had no idea this was a thing. So my first thought is, why not do that for every NFL game at Metlife?

Then I found this article from 2018 about laying down grass at Metlife for Wednesday soccer following weekend Taylor Swift concerts.

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/soccer/ny-sports-metlife-taylor-swift-field-20180726-story.html

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The pop star performed three consecutive nights at the New Jersey stadium last weekend, leaving grounds crew not much time to lay down grass over MetLife’s synthetic surface for Wednesday’s soccer game"


Article goes on to talk about how the field wasn't in good shape.

So one issue would be event schedule and timing to install and prepare grass.

Then I found this article from 2022 about cost comparison:

https://www.milehighreport.com/2022/10/1/23381619/time-for-turf-to-wave-the-white-flag-in-nfl-stadiums

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Well, if artificial fields are so much worse than natural ones, why do so many teams use them? In short, there’s really not a good reason. The main reason, I would argue, is that it’s a symptom of teams caring more about profit than players.

Turf fields cost $750,000 to $1,350,000 to install, and $6,000 to $10,000 per year to maintain. Meanwhile, a grass field costs $400,000 to $820,000 to install and requires $18,000 to $44,000 of maintenance per year. Generally speaking, in a 10 year lifecyle, grass fields actually cost $400,000 to $500,000 less than artificial turf.

So how can using turf fields be about profit? It’s all about utilization time.

Admittedly, that’s a huge concern for an NFL venue. After all, if your team doesn’t make the playoffs, they’ll only be using your field 8 or 9 times per year. So if you want to have a profitable stadium, you’ve got to fill some of the 356 other days of the year with things like concerts, campaign rallies, trade shows, facility tours, and even golf courses.

But all of those other things, added on to the football schedule, can be pretty darn hard on natural grass. And there’s the big difference. Where a grass field can be utilized for about 800 hours per year without serious damage, an artificial turf field can withstand about 2,800 hours of punishment per year. And that’s a lot more money made; far more than the (by NFL standards) pocket change level difference in installation and maintenance costs.


Those costs are for permanent install, not a per-game install, but still, puts it in perspective. Considering what good players cost per game that doesn't seem impossible to do.

And there is this, talking about bids to host 2026 world cup:

https://www.lawnstarter.com/blog/sports-turf/us-world-cup-cities-natural-grass/

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MetLife Stadium in New Jersey probably has the most experience going from turf to grass, so doing so once again isn’t expected to be a big deal.


"Not expected to be a big deal"

Not cost prohibitive.

A company that already has experience installing per-game grass at Metlife.

I really wonder now, why this wasn't the choice.

Scheduling complications is the only thing I can think of.
So basically I think we can safely blame the Jets here  
D HOS : 3/17/2023 2:59 pm : link
If the Giants had their own stadium with only one team's NFL schedule, I bet they would be having grass. It's the blasted Jets' fault.
Ah yes,  
darren in pdx : 3/17/2023 3:04 pm : link
if not for turf and the Giants medical staff the team would be injury-free..
here  
Y28 : 3/17/2023 4:08 pm : link
is a picture of inside Met Life from a few moments ago.

Obviously something is going on
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RE: just saw a post on reddit that says they completely removed the turf  
BlueHurricane : 3/17/2023 4:29 pm : link
In comment 16068592 Fat Wally said:
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My neighbor purchased sections of the old endzone on Marketplace. It is definitely ripped up.
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