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Julian Love to Seattle

Aaroninma : 3/17/2023 1:27 pm
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Route 9 : 3/17/2023 1:28 pm : link
Sucks but ... oh well
kind of sucks  
46and2Blue : 3/17/2023 1:28 pm : link
I liked what he did for us. wish him the best. Interested in what the hawks paid.
I think we saw his best  
Aaroninma : 3/17/2023 1:29 pm : link
I had no qualms losing him
Good luck..  
Chris in Philly : 3/17/2023 1:29 pm : link
Julian.
RE: kind of sucks  
Route 9 : 3/17/2023 1:29 pm : link
In comment 16068538 46and2Blue said:
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I liked what he did for us. wish him the best. Interested in what the hawks paid.


Yeah he played hard. Good for him to get paid.

Whatever it is he's getting
didn't sound like he wanted to be here  
Sec_149 : 3/17/2023 1:29 pm : link
Time to draft another safety.

It will be interesting to see how much he got.
hate this - it's literally the exact same contract slayton got too  
Eric on Li : 3/17/2023 1:30 pm : link
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Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.


first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.

love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.

love > slayton.
2 years, $12m  
Everyone Relax : 3/17/2023 1:30 pm : link
per Schefter
RE: RE: kind of sucks  
mphbullet36 : 3/17/2023 1:30 pm : link
In comment 16068542 Route 9 said:
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In comment 16068538 46and2Blue said:


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I liked what he did for us. wish him the best. Interested in what the hawks paid.



Yeah he played hard. Good for him to get paid.

Whatever it is he's getting


that last eagles game left a bad taste in my mouth...he seemed like he gave up that game.
So  
TommytheElephant : 3/17/2023 1:30 pm : link
Pinnock?
Not trying to dump on him on the way out  
illmatic : 3/17/2023 1:30 pm : link
I think it sucks, I think it’s a loss for the team but I also feel like he’s replaceable. Apparently the front office feels the same or they would have fought harder to bring him back. Best of luck to him in Seattle.
RE: RE: RE: kind of sucks  
Route 9 : 3/17/2023 1:31 pm : link
In comment 16068546 mphbullet36 said:
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In comment 16068542 Route 9 said:


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In comment 16068538 46and2Blue said:


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I liked what he did for us. wish him the best. Interested in what the hawks paid.



Yeah he played hard. Good for him to get paid.

Whatever it is he's getting



that last eagles game left a bad taste in my mouth...he seemed like he gave up that game.


He had two whiffs vs the Eagles lol same player right? Smith?
Good.  
Straw Hat : 3/17/2023 1:31 pm : link
A good giant, but not worth the 2nd contract.
2 years 12 million  
Blue Dream : 3/17/2023 1:31 pm : link
Need to see the details but it looks like less than we paid Slayton. Wonder what the Giants offer was or if even there was one.
Not an impressive player...  
knowledgetimmons : 3/17/2023 1:31 pm : link
and basically had the game sealing whiff on a 4th down streak to Davonta Smith. He could've torched him, but no killer instinct.

If he were resigned by NYG it would have provided credibility that they overvalue their own guys.
Obviously need a replacement  
jeff57 : 3/17/2023 1:32 pm : link
Brian Branch of Alabama is an outstanding and versatile DB in the Minkah Fitzpatrick mode. Wouldn't mind taking him at 25. But probably less than 50-50 that he'll still be on the board.
?  
Route 9 : 3/17/2023 1:32 pm : link
Playing with Jamal Adams
At  
DanMetroMan : 3/17/2023 1:32 pm : link
this price presumably he either wanted out or they didn't particularly want him back.
RE: ?  
Eric on Li : 3/17/2023 1:33 pm : link
In comment 16068556 Route 9 said:
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Playing with Jamal Adams


more likely hedging/replacing him since he's coming back off a major surgery. diggs plays more deep for them, adams and love both play in the box more.
RE: hate this - it's literally the exact same contract slayton got too  
MotownGIANTS : 3/17/2023 1:33 pm : link
In comment 16068544 Eric on Li said:
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Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.



first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.

love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.

love > slayton.


I agree but McK will need to redone only so much money and yes his money could have been the Slayton deal, however WR is a greater need and helping Jones continue his growth with some consistency is vital. Not to mention we have young viable cost effective options on the roster already and a good draft for safeties potentially.
sucks to lose him  
Fat Wally : 3/17/2023 1:34 pm : link
but I would rather keep Slayton. McKinney is better and will command more money so it's hard to justify committing lots of resources to one position group. And after his performance in that playoff loss to the Eagles, I'm ok with him leaving.
Solid starter  
widmerseyebrow : 3/17/2023 1:34 pm : link
but not the type of safety you want to pay for.
Love  
Sammo85 : 3/17/2023 1:35 pm : link
missed a lot of plays 2nd half of season. His tape was not as good as people think he played.

Appreciate his time here and wish him well.
This sucks  
cosmicj : 3/17/2023 1:35 pm : link
Disagree with this decision, esp if Loves price tag was so reasonable.
Love was a solid player for us  
DieHard : 3/17/2023 1:37 pm : link
and he was a good guy to root for. I wish him well.

This is where the GM and coach earn the big bucks -- in a vacuum, you could argue Love is more valuable than Slayton, but the Giants' WR room is still loaded with question marks, while at S you have McKinney, a promising guy in Belton the new regime has invested in, Pinnock and possibly more on the way. Time will tell if it was the right move.
They picked Slayton over Love  
rasbutant : 3/17/2023 1:38 pm : link
Scratching my head. WTF, Talk about shopping hungry. Well at least they have bodies in the WR room.
Will remember  
Matt123 : 3/17/2023 1:38 pm : link
the interception against Baltimore.

(And try to forget the Eagles games.)

Time for Belton to step up  
Coach LB : 3/17/2023 1:39 pm : link
I think he'll be alright!
This is interesting  
j_rud : 3/17/2023 1:39 pm : link
Maybe I'm reading into it too much but with it being the same parameters as the Slayton deal there could be some roster building insights there.
I don't like this one.  
Kmed6000 : 3/17/2023 1:39 pm : link
I was expecting him to price out of the market, but he got the same as Slayton.

Love>>>>>>Slayton in my opinion
Missing alot of plays  
JonC : 3/17/2023 1:39 pm : link
was a ding from his ND days too. Seems NYG was ok moving on.
RE: At  
MOOPS : 3/17/2023 1:40 pm : link
In comment 16068557 DanMetroMan said:
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this price presumably he either wanted out or they didn't particularly want him back.


On it's face, kinda yeah. Money's not outrageous.
it's hilarious to see people knock the guy who played the most snaps  
Eric on Li : 3/17/2023 1:40 pm : link
on the entire defense last year by about 150 in his first year as a full time starter, and captain, and green dot, on the way out the door.

love is not an irreplaceable player but for a pretty unsubstantial amount of money they created a big hole to fill. quite literally 1k snaps, a C, and someone smart enough in the system to call plays and get the defense lined up.
also played 220 special teams snaps which was about 50%  
Eric on Li : 3/17/2023 1:42 pm : link
im sure they had their reasons for moving on but at the end of the day i think 1300 snaps of what love did is harder production to fill than the 70 targets slayton got.

jaquan johnson is an under the radar player id love to see them sign.
They're going to miss him  
Sy'56 : 3/17/2023 1:43 pm : link
He wore several hats
Good player  
AcesUp : 3/17/2023 1:43 pm : link
And a good deal for Seattle. I think the acquisition and flash from Pinnock made him a little more expendable. Also the longterm outlook of potentially having to pay McKinney influenced how high the Giants would go too.

That's a really good deal for Seattle and I hope Love has success there.
Big fan of his  
mfsd : 3/17/2023 1:43 pm : link
But good teams have to be able to draft guys to replace guys like Love. Can’t give everyone a big contract to stay
He seemed to want a change of scenery  
OBJ_AllDay : 3/17/2023 1:43 pm : link
Nobody really knows what the Giants offered during the season. I think he had one foot out the door since the season ended.
I would've kept Love at those terms  
JonC : 3/17/2023 1:43 pm : link
good, smart, productive player.
RE: I would've kept Love at those terms  
mfsd : 3/17/2023 1:45 pm : link
In comment 16068588 JonC said:
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good, smart, productive player.


I’m genuinely curious if the Giants would have matched that, or if he just wanted to change the view
RE: 2 years 12 million  
UConn4523 : 3/17/2023 1:45 pm : link
In comment 16068551 Blue Dream said:
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Need to see the details but it looks like less than we paid Slayton. Wonder what the Giants offer was or if even there was one.


That hurts, I would have paid that
I try not to get to high or low over moves in the offseason  
rasbutant : 3/17/2023 1:47 pm : link
but the more I think about this the more I get angry.

Need to go for a walk or something. This is some serious BS.
I would have preferred Love over Slayton as well  
Chip : 3/17/2023 1:47 pm : link
He kept his ass on the field and did not miss games. Seemed to be a leader as well. Good Luck to him in Seattle.
RE: RE: I would've kept Love at those terms  
Sammo85 : 3/17/2023 1:49 pm : link
In comment 16068591 mfsd said:
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good, smart, productive player.



I’m genuinely curious if the Giants would have matched that, or if he just wanted to change the view


I'm surprised Raiders didn't take a look - Love seemed a little torn on Graham leaving as DC. Not surprised he left and not surprised Giants didn't really "fight" to keep him.

When McKinney went out, offenses seemed to hone in on him in coverage frequently in 2nd half of season and in critical downs (both Washington and Philly games).
RE: hate this - it's literally the exact same contract slayton got too  
DavidinBMNY : 3/17/2023 1:49 pm : link
In comment 16068544 Eric on Li said:
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Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.



first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.

love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.

love > slayton.
Positonal value, resource allocation and roster building. They drafted Belton and like Pinnock even more. They will be paying McKinney as well most likely.

I hear what you are saying and I don’t disagree with your point either.
RE: I would have preferred Love over Slayton as well  
Spider56 : 3/17/2023 1:50 pm : link
In comment 16068597 Chip said:
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He kept his ass on the field and did not miss games. Seemed to be a leader as well. Good Luck to him in Seattle.


+1. On all points… if the $$$ were the same I’d have kept Love.
I  
AcidTest : 3/17/2023 1:52 pm : link
would have kept Love for that contract. Crazy not to IMO. Bad move by the Giants, especially since he was a team captain, a "glue guy," and much more valuable than Slayton, who basically got the same deal.
I'n disappointed  
Hammer : 3/17/2023 1:52 pm : link
To say the least.

This is the modern NFL.
Always sucks to lose  
Breeze_94 : 3/17/2023 1:53 pm : link
A good player who is young and a locker room leader.

The way I look at it, they opted to get younger/cheaper at safety with 2 in-house options that they like. They used the savings to fill a massive hole at LB- with Okereke, who I feel is a better player at LB than Love is at Safety.

A slight downgrade at S for a huge upgrade at LB. And by the end of the season, Belton/Pinnock may offer more than Love did, at least on the field - both are better athletes and offer better size.
RE: 2 years, $12m  
chick310 : 3/17/2023 1:54 pm : link
In comment 16068545 Everyone Relax said:
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per Schefter


Details might help shed light, but my quick response would have been to agree to a deal with Love at this level. Doesn't do anything really well but contributes across the board.

Not a positive move here.
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