Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.
love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.
I think it sucks, I think it’s a loss for the team but I also feel like he’s replaceable. Apparently the front office feels the same or they would have fought harder to bring him back. Best of luck to him in Seattle.
Brian Branch of Alabama is an outstanding and versatile DB in the Minkah Fitzpatrick mode. Wouldn't mind taking him at 25. But probably less than 50-50 that he'll still be on the board.
more likely hedging/replacing him since he's coming back off a major surgery. diggs plays more deep for them, adams and love both play in the box more.
RE: hate this - it's literally the exact same contract slayton got too
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.
love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.
love > slayton.
I agree but McK will need to redone only so much money and yes his money could have been the Slayton deal, however WR is a greater need and helping Jones continue his growth with some consistency is vital. Not to mention we have young viable cost effective options on the roster already and a good draft for safeties potentially.
but I would rather keep Slayton. McKinney is better and will command more money so it's hard to justify committing lots of resources to one position group. And after his performance in that playoff loss to the Eagles, I'm ok with him leaving.
and he was a good guy to root for. I wish him well.
This is where the GM and coach earn the big bucks -- in a vacuum, you could argue Love is more valuable than Slayton, but the Giants' WR room is still loaded with question marks, while at S you have McKinney, a promising guy in Belton the new regime has invested in, Pinnock and possibly more on the way. Time will tell if it was the right move.
on the entire defense last year by about 150 in his first year as a full time starter, and captain, and green dot, on the way out the door.
love is not an irreplaceable player but for a pretty unsubstantial amount of money they created a big hole to fill. quite literally 1k snaps, a C, and someone smart enough in the system to call plays and get the defense lined up.
also played 220 special teams snaps which was about 50%
im sure they had their reasons for moving on but at the end of the day i think 1300 snaps of what love did is harder production to fill than the 70 targets slayton got.
jaquan johnson is an under the radar player id love to see them sign.
And a good deal for Seattle. I think the acquisition and flash from Pinnock made him a little more expendable. Also the longterm outlook of potentially having to pay McKinney influenced how high the Giants would go too.
That's a really good deal for Seattle and I hope Love has success there.
I’m genuinely curious if the Giants would have matched that, or if he just wanted to change the view
I'm surprised Raiders didn't take a look - Love seemed a little torn on Graham leaving as DC. Not surprised he left and not surprised Giants didn't really "fight" to keep him.
When McKinney went out, offenses seemed to hone in on him in coverage frequently in 2nd half of season and in critical downs (both Washington and Philly games).
RE: hate this - it's literally the exact same contract slayton got too
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.
love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.
love > slayton.
Positonal value, resource allocation and roster building. They drafted Belton and like Pinnock even more. They will be paying McKinney as well most likely.
I hear what you are saying and I don’t disagree with your point either.
RE: I would have preferred Love over Slayton as well
would have kept Love for that contract. Crazy not to IMO. Bad move by the Giants, especially since he was a team captain, a "glue guy," and much more valuable than Slayton, who basically got the same deal.
A good player who is young and a locker room leader.
The way I look at it, they opted to get younger/cheaper at safety with 2 in-house options that they like. They used the savings to fill a massive hole at LB- with Okereke, who I feel is a better player at LB than Love is at Safety.
A slight downgrade at S for a huge upgrade at LB. And by the end of the season, Belton/Pinnock may offer more than Love did, at least on the field - both are better athletes and offer better size.
Details might help shed light, but my quick response would have been to agree to a deal with Love at this level. Doesn't do anything really well but contributes across the board.
Yeah he played hard. Good for him to get paid.
Whatever it is he's getting
It will be interesting to see how much he got.
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.
love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.
love > slayton.
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I liked what he did for us. wish him the best. Interested in what the hawks paid.
Yeah he played hard. Good for him to get paid.
Whatever it is he's getting
that last eagles game left a bad taste in my mouth...he seemed like he gave up that game.
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I liked what he did for us. wish him the best. Interested in what the hawks paid.
Yeah he played hard. Good for him to get paid.
Whatever it is he's getting
that last eagles game left a bad taste in my mouth...he seemed like he gave up that game.
He had two whiffs vs the Eagles lol same player right? Smith?
If he were resigned by NYG it would have provided credibility that they overvalue their own guys.
more likely hedging/replacing him since he's coming back off a major surgery. diggs plays more deep for them, adams and love both play in the box more.
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Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.
love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.
love > slayton.
I agree but McK will need to redone only so much money and yes his money could have been the Slayton deal, however WR is a greater need and helping Jones continue his growth with some consistency is vital. Not to mention we have young viable cost effective options on the roster already and a good draft for safeties potentially.
Appreciate his time here and wish him well.
This is where the GM and coach earn the big bucks -- in a vacuum, you could argue Love is more valuable than Slayton, but the Giants' WR room is still loaded with question marks, while at S you have McKinney, a promising guy in Belton the new regime has invested in, Pinnock and possibly more on the way. Time will tell if it was the right move.
(And try to forget the Eagles games.)
Love>>>>>>Slayton in my opinion
On it's face, kinda yeah. Money's not outrageous.
love is not an irreplaceable player but for a pretty unsubstantial amount of money they created a big hole to fill. quite literally 1k snaps, a C, and someone smart enough in the system to call plays and get the defense lined up.
jaquan johnson is an under the radar player id love to see them sign.
That's a really good deal for Seattle and I hope Love has success there.
I’m genuinely curious if the Giants would have matched that, or if he just wanted to change the view
That hurts, I would have paid that
Need to go for a walk or something. This is some serious BS.
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good, smart, productive player.
I’m genuinely curious if the Giants would have matched that, or if he just wanted to change the view
I'm surprised Raiders didn't take a look - Love seemed a little torn on Graham leaving as DC. Not surprised he left and not surprised Giants didn't really "fight" to keep him.
When McKinney went out, offenses seemed to hone in on him in coverage frequently in 2nd half of season and in critical downs (both Washington and Philly games).
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Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.
love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.
love > slayton.
I hear what you are saying and I don’t disagree with your point either.
+1. On all points… if the $$$ were the same I’d have kept Love.
This is the modern NFL.
The way I look at it, they opted to get younger/cheaper at safety with 2 in-house options that they like. They used the savings to fill a massive hole at LB- with Okereke, who I feel is a better player at LB than Love is at Safety.
A slight downgrade at S for a huge upgrade at LB. And by the end of the season, Belton/Pinnock may offer more than Love did, at least on the field - both are better athletes and offer better size.
Details might help shed light, but my quick response would have been to agree to a deal with Love at this level. Doesn't do anything really well but contributes across the board.
Not a positive move here.